Sheryl Crow: The Untold Story of The Rock Musician

[@rnrtruestories]

Lilith Fair video I referenced kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaamnKuXZ9Gdh7Msi=xN1BAZrWUUCYAppz

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

Pad-gam? Seriously?

[@familydogg1234]

Kevin Gilbert- Very talented musician. I became aware of him with his contributions to Keith Emerson ( RIP). EMERSON released " For Kevin " on " Emerson Plays Emerson" 2002 2cd a piano piece he performed live since 1996. Thank You

[@squatch545]

It's pronounced Pa/-jam, and Lilith Fair was not a flop.

[@smileyslick1534]

@rnrtruesrories, you left out the collaborations with Kid Rock for the highly acclaimed song “Picture” and others.

[@candydale8380]

I went to a Lilith Fair in So Cal; Tracy Chapman absolutely stole the show! Her band was awesome!!!!!!

[@scott6828]

I had a buddy of mine that had her as a music teacher when he was in the fifth grade (showed me his school annual to prove it) he said she was a really strict music teacher that made every kid sing and participate. Thats why he never forgot her😂😂

[@BryanClark-gk6ie]

Oh Lord kumbaya

[@lisasaims3007]

My sister was a huge fan, went to her concert she played for 30 minutes & left, my sister was furious! True story

[@fastinbulvis2223]

The end of this video is yet more proof that TRRHOF is a politically correct joke.

[@davidrice3337]

I believe it -

[@davidrice3337]

@@fastinbulvis2223 it's a joke

[@Kazwell111]

She probably had to go throw up, ( she battled anorexia and bulimia for years) as well as having to hear her own music, which I can understand why she quit early.

[@lisasaims3007]

@@Kazwell111 sad but 🤣😂😅

[@phenomeninja1855]

So she had a few hit singles . An ok voice . I don’t know about ripping people off or other people writing songs for her, etc. However I believe she was a passing fad of the 1990s; not an artist with legendary impact . It’s a free country so enjoy if you do !

[@koolkitties8552]

She had more than a few hits

[@josephtabar492]

Sheryl Crow is as much Rock and Roll guitarist as Ray Charles was a cross walk guard board of the local primary School. No Worries, rhe ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME will eventually bestow an award on her despite rhe fact that she specializes in country music. All the normal things in life have been rearranged along with their meanings ..... No wonder the world is lost!

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

Sheryl crow is truly a music "product"

[@sgt.grinch3299]

How is she inducted into the RRHOF? I’m sorry, I forgot it is not the Hall of Fame for Rock Musicians. It includes country, jazz, pop, and other various crap.

[@SHEEPLESUCK]

At the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert back in 94 in Cleveland, she covered the rolling stones song Let It Bleed and it was the worst. She had no business on the stage with all of those bona-fide hall of fame artists. Also I was tripping and it made it worse listening to Crow.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

It's the Brown Noser's Musical Hal of Fame.

[@robr7926]

She's in and Paul Rodgers is not. Don't get that.

[@DogStar84]

She is in and Foreigner is Not. BS

[@Jamzocd]

One of those “various crap” artists that got in is Kid Rock 🪨! Unbelievable!

[@robertharmon9332]

Funny how the writing style on her first record sounds just like Kevin Gilbert's solo stuff...Hmmmm

[@MrTeddarmstrong]

Joni Mitchell once stated in an interview that Crow was an untalented product of music business producers. (Paraphrasing)

[@danimaldann]

yeah .. and when they asked her what she thought of sheryl , she replied " yeah ...i know some of her people " . i was on tour in california when that all i want to do song hit ... and it was on the radio every hour . i now list it as one of the most obnoxious songs i have ever heard . i was told 5 writers are credited for that masterpiece . 🤥

[@danielbelardino7662]

That's a shame because she cites Mitchell as one of her favorites and an influence on her.. im huge huge HUGE Joni fan..but there are not many people that she talks nice about.

[@clayton1939]

Joni Mitchell should listen to faraway places. A duet she did with Willie Nelson. Better than anything Joni Mitchell has done IMO.

[@rileyhalls9301]

I really like Sheryl's duet with Chris Stapleton - Tell me when it's over.

[@2degucitas]

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Joni is a legend, deserves the praise she's due. But, the music industry was different in her era and Joni was part of a folk culture, Cheryl didn't have a music "family" to belong to.

[@drebatista]

RIP Kevin Gilbert. Do an episode about him and how he was used.

[@mikeaaron2112]

YES THIS!!

[@DogStar84]

Yes

[@AllMediaReviewsPodcast]

I've made countless videos about Kevin Gilbert on my channel.

[@willelliott5052]

Never was my taste. I think that "are you strong enough to be my man" essentially asks "are you weak enough to be my doormat". No thanks to that vibe nor her music.

[@jasonl1942]

In hindsight what a totally correct assessment, especially in these post amber heard trial days, sort of a take me as I am - damaged and reckless - yet I won't take responsibility for my actions kind of attitude. Don't even get me started on Alanis...

[@reddiver7293]

Yes, that undertone of her music was kind of cringy. Almost like it was tacked on in a sad attempt to liven up a listless body of work.

[@williamstamper442]

This "tough girl" persona was status quo for female singers all thru the 1990s. No matter if a gal sang as part of a band or had a solo act, this type of image was what the recording industry was pushing during that time, which brings up a marginally decent phrase..."it is what it is".

[@franklinfx]

entitlement..brought to you by feminism

[@TucoDog-ho6fw]

That’s an excellent comment.

[@znostreet5313]

I watched a 1hr documentary, 4 years ago, of Crow about her 9th studio album(Her retirement announcement). Its cover was her sitting at a grand piano in a grass field with tree line in the background. In her interview she said that the album was entirely an artistic statement of her own merit. NO influence of commercialism. She was vocal about how she had to change her lyrics to conform to what would be considered popular and this album was representative about that. I couldn't get thru one song on it. It was grueling. Today, you can not find the documentary anywhere. The is no record of the album anywhere. All history of this haas been wiped from the internet.

[@toegrit]

"In her interview she said that the album was entirely an artistic statement of her own merit. NO influence of commercialism. She was vocal about how she had to change her lyrics to conform to what would be considered popular and this album was representative about that." I think something is going over my heard, the first and second sentences here seem contradicted by the third.

[@peterzang]

Her stuff is awful. No personality. Stuck with Aimee Mann and Lucinda Williams

[@AndreVlaamsValle]

@@peterzang It's not because something sounds like something that she is emulating someone. She's just herself. All musicians aim to be someone and end up being themselves.

[@kcbh24]

Sounds like a fever dream.

[@Philosophy42DaysUth]

what was the name of that album? @@kcbh24

[@macsnafu]

Never mind Sheryl Crow. Kevin Gilbert is the more interesting musician. He did some great music before he died.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Everything about this whole story just gives me a whole variety of bad vibes. Can't think of a single thing that sounds truly uplifting. There must be enclaves within the music business where kindness and integrity are dominant, but I can't say where they are with any confidence.

[@michaelwills1926]

Rumor has it, Anyone who’s anyone in the music business starts their journey at the intersection of 61 and 49, the Devil’s Crossroads and from what I’ve seen I believe it.

[@dougspidermanhappy]

I was raped in college by another student. Years later, when the trauma became less SEVERE, I learned that the guy became the head of his own music label, then he sold his label to Disney. More recently he was working with Harvey Weinstein and traveling the world surfing. My health is destroyed, I barely leave my home, and I’m broke. The thing is, when I heard he was in the music industry, I laughed out loud. That’s where the psychos are.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

​@@dougspidermanhappy You definitely have my sympathies. I've heard other stories that point in a similar direction. They're all different. That's entropy. Infinitely more ways to go wrong than to go right. IAC I'd really love to see someone study this analytically, trying to determine what areas of activity are the most corrupt, and ultimately why they are the way they are.

[@FourteenWords-n4l]

​@@dougspidermanhappy Thats fucked up Doug, I'm sorry to hear that. Such a lonely way to be. I hope like me you have little corners of respite no matter how far and few between. F that fella, his mickey will probebly fall off.

[@rockymntdan1]

@@dougspidermanhappy I know this is easier said than done, but turn to Jesus, receive forgiveness for all of your mistakes, then you can forgive this dirtbag and you will be free of it. Don't live another day as a slave to it.

[@Ammo08]

We Missourians are very proud of Sheryl Crow, a very versatile musician. She grew up right down the road from me..

[@jamesfloyd1864]

Rhonda Vincent, too.

[@infinitelightcouncil]

Yep! Southeast here- and she's at heart a fine Country artist- love her

[@erikknezevich3619]

I was in a studio creation “band” years ago with a fairly well-known session musician from L.A. Once, the conversation came around to female singers and Crow came up. He went on a long rant as to why he hated her with a passion. Turns out Kevin was one of his best friends. He told me the whole, long story and was besides himself with grief and anger. I didn’t quite believe it at the time. I thought the whole thing was overly-dramatic. As the last 20+ years have passed, the more his story has become basically common knowledge. She really screwed that guy bad.

[@ericlarkins]

Yep, that's right!

[@bryanmckenzie6102]

Hibbing?

[@kaveman1021]

I didn't learn about Kevin until he was gone but when I learned what she did to him I was feeling the same way. And then when she had the audacity to say she was joining Fleetwood Mac only to have Lindsay Buckingham say, "Uhh, no she's not" just sealed it. Sheryl Crow is an opportunistic parasite.

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

Crow stealing the work of others shows why she was such a good match for Lance Armstrong. Crow went on talk shows, claiming the songs were autobiographical. When the truth was that she stole the songs from her band.

[@dawnreneegmail]

Wow, carrying that level of disdain can't be doing anybody good. She owned it but none of y'all can let it go and suck acridity will poison YOU. She has moved on.

[@Mark-bi4ne]

I saw Kevin Gilbert at SXSW in 1995 and he blew me away. Acquired everything he ever released. He had more talent in his little finger than she's had over the course of her entire career. And the way she treated him and the rest of the TNMC was absolutely despicable.

[@acelarson1872]

Kevin was on Mark And Brian show all the time, what talent he had and she just destroyed him how sad, I'll never support her ever.

[@OboeCanAm]

There used to be a video (now taken down) of Kevin performing The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway at Progfest '94. It is an amazing one-off performance; he truly got into Peter Gabriel's "Rael" character.

[@acelarson1872]

@@OboeCanAm Kevin was amazing, such a sad way to go but he lives on.

[@Mark-bi4ne]

@@OboeCanAm I have a cd of Kevin doing the Lamb. He was so amazing.

[@allensharp6876]

Oh please! In the music business you take the opportunity when it shows up. Don’t be naive, it’s every man for himself. Her band mates just didn’t have the talent.

[@stevenhenry5267]

Hideously unworthy of HOF induction.

[@1oolabob]

All I Want to Do was a hit because it sounded a little like Stuck in the Middle With You. True story.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

It was a Women's Lib chick magnet Anthem song, for all the young ladies of the 90's. Her gun grabbing song made her popular with all the libtards and Dems.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@platboy1789]

wow it does acttually. never noticed

[@rooster4430]

Wow, it does. Most pop music sound similar to me. Catchy refrain, upbeat rhythm. I liked her "Have some fun" song.

[@Torgo1969]

It sounds like Cyndi Lauper's bubble gum from the 80s, at least lyrically. Both are shallow and hedonistic pieces of garbage.

[@AllMediaReviewsPodcast]

everything with Kevin Gilbert should not be forgotten, but also forgiven. As a Kevin Gilbert fan however, the thing that I would love to have released are the demos and other versions of the Tuesday Night Music Club material. I wonder if it may never happen or at least not until Sheryl herself is no longer with us.

[@4ctmam]

Kevin was an astonishing musician, an unbelievable talent.

[@mikeaaron2112]

Shaming of the True is simply an amazing album. Everyone here should give it a listen.

[@AllMediaReviewsPodcast]

@@mikeaaron2112 agreed. I've said it many times, it should be in every public library.

[@4ctmam]

@@mikeaaron2112 Indeed!

[@marktele8061]

Crow using Kevin Gilbert as a stepping stone is disgusting - every time I hear her voice I gag.

[@spaceorbison]

How the f is this woman in the hall of fame.... its taken bands with 100x more talent much longer

[@eagle7399]

Because she was politically correct

[@petegarrido5406]

Use your imagination.

[@eagle7399]

Apparently you have none@@petegarrido5406

[@eagle7399]

If you're having to ask yourself how the "f"@@petegarrido5406

[@spaceorbison]

@@petegarrido5406BJ's?

[@tomowens7499]

You sorta glossed over the Kevin Gilbert connection! Kevin was dating her, and the Tuesday night music club guys all had such a big part in that album, they naturally thought they'd all ride that record to stardom... She sorta abandoned the guys, claimed she wrote the material on letterman and rose to glory. The rest of the guys were naturally pissed, Kevin Gilbert wrote an incredibly clever song about the experience called 'leaving miss Broadway' that has some of the best lyrics! 'there's a comfortable old tale about the man without a clue, who rises to the top on work a woman had to do. But political correctness won't believe the inverse true: we can't see painted nails on the foot that fits the shoe' Kevin Gilbert was an awesome writer, his toy matinee album is an all time fave of mine... Sad he's gone

[@Keith-x3o]

What about her singing background vocals for Don Henley on his song Last Worthless Evening in 1989? You can see her in the video for the song.

[@sunsin1592]

She's decent, but has no business being in the Rock Hall except as a visitor. But that's true of a lot of people in there.

[@njmaxrocks]

I had a friend that worked for Alesis in the 90s and was good friends with Kevin Gilbert. I can tell you the stories I heard didn't painting a pretty picture of Miss Crow in any way

[@DogStar84]

No they didn’t. Team Kevin. Huge talent lost

[@Lollygagger-k4p]

Just off the top of my head, I can't really think of many clean living, honestly normal pop entertainers at all - except for Rush. My experience in bands when I was young is that they are all drama driven people. It was like being in a club with all ex-girlfriends around me. For all the fun, I was glad to see that end.

[@RobertVeasquez]

I played in bands from the age of 14 to 35. Had my fill of musicians. I’ve played solo ever since and I have not had any regrets whatsoever!

[@menotyou6254]

I am a huge RUSH fan they’re amazing talented musicians I enjoy them very much. A band called in the moment that so now band they’re pretty dang good too but no one can touch rush have a good day

[@RobertVeasquez]

@@menotyou6254 Someone liked your terrible English writing…..lol

[@Torgo1969]

Rush! Woo hoo! My buddy and I named our Bowling team "Roll The Bones".

[@daflotsam]

All these "controversies" really didn't seem to make that much difference to the average music listener back in the day. Of course, at least from my perspective. Paying attention to music industry news and gossip wasn't so much thing, so it was more about hearing songs I liked from various sources (radio, friends, clubs, concerts) and buying stuff I liked. Crow's music and production had and has a strong quality to it that holds up.

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

but she only 4 feet 3 inch tall so NEX TIME you muss think aboud these

[@billdauphine951]

Undeniable talent...Undeniably talented...

[@docsavage8640]

None of that matters when your first 3 albums are as good as hers were

[@falconeaterf15]

We are consumers. We don’t think about what goes into the products we consume.

[@macadoo2530]

falconeav speak for yourself

[@brentrusche2056]

@rnrtruestories Sheryl Crowe has A LOT of indirect blood on her hands. As a result of her actions (more like in-actions) the deaths of John O'Brien and ESPECIALLY Kevin Gilbert (both R.I.P.) and what they did for her early career, seem to be all but forgotten, collateral damage. Kevin never got over the fact that she never publicly acknowledged his musical contributions and never revealed the true source inspiration for 'Leaving Las Vegas' is just criminal. Thank you for featuring Kevin in your video because he is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to Crowe's success.

[@scottsheppard-x4f]

Lol

[@Takao1078]

A slight association with a suicide and it's all 100% her fault. Total crap... she had an amazing talent, drive and accomplishment, which only increased to superstar levels AFTER TNMC.

[@janalong2702]

That was their own mental health issues and insecurities. To blame one person is not fair.

[@DogStar84]

I’m with you on this Brent. RIP KG

[@scottsheppard-x4f]

@dogstar84 how brave of you lol

[@ebarteldes]

I fell in love with her music around the time of the third album. Have followed her since AND got my copy of C'mon C'mon autographed!

[@Nunya.Bidness]

Try finding the Sheryl Crow interview with Letterman, it's been expunged. Big money, big lawyers…

[@spanishpeaches2930]

Please elaborate..intrigued.

[@lindamorgan2678]

@@spanishpeaches2930 leaving vegas re watch this vid he explains her lie etc etc

[@brians9508]

Inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame? Sheeesh, maybe I can get in too. Seems that if she hadn't had success with that first McDonald's commercial she would have ended up with a nice happy, calm life as a music teacher. The McDonalds' curse - made me fat and paved the way for Sheryl's depression.

[@dancarter482]

_GOLD!_

[@williamwilson6499]

Never cared for anything she did. Mediocre is the highest praise I can give her.

[@ZemarRed]

agreed.

[@platboy1789]

yeah cuz dueting with Michael jackson is just "mediocre" ahahahahahha Nothing you will do wiil ever come close LOL

[@paulwally9007]

Agreed. Worse than mediocre.

[@douglasalan5783]

The R&R HoF is a joke. She has a knack for hooks and choruses, but her songs are pretty lightweight, IMHO. “Every Day Is a Winding Road” is a good example. Terrific chorus, dull verses.

[@douglasalan5783]

@@fenris6051 No need to get nasty. I’m not a fan of Sheryl, but I can’t argue with her success. She knows how to write hits. I’m definitely not a hater. As for me, I’m not a professional musician, so no hit songs. But I’ve been playing guitar for years, I’ve written many songs, and I’ve recorded a few. So, my opinion is valid - whether you agree or not. What about you?

[@EDGAR-os9rw]

In 1996 she came to our small camp(Army) in Bosnia in the Tusla valley. A couple of my guys were able to get her signature and said she was super cool and upbeat. Much respect for her. Sh!t was sketchy yet she still came.

[@muttomatic]

Her playing "Stuck In the Middle With You" was the highlight for me that day.

[@hgrunenwald]

Zero respect for this piece of garbage

[@KevinJ.McCarthy]

Remember Al Frankin On The USO Tour, Acting Out Grabbing A Sleeping Women's Breasts? It Is Called Self Promotion.

[@johnpatmos1722]

One of the artists where I can really enjoy various songs by her, but which fall flat when heard back to back. Never made it through an album in one sitting.

[@nickbrutanna9973]

Meh. Crow's time in the sunlight certainly suggests a lot of the initial complaints had some validity. She sold a lot early on, but after everyone stopped trusting her, her sales have gone into the sub-100k zone.

[@oscarsegovia833]

Like absolutely everyone. Nobody sells 20 million albums anymore. She's a legacy artist, she's not Taylor Swift.

[@MileyonDisney]

I know she was very popular in the 90's, but I can't think of a single song she did (part of being very old). If I heard one, I'd remember it.

[@jezzylawson936]

yeah but that just means you have limited musical knowledge

[@Dave-xs9dm]

The dudes she did leaving Las Vegas with. She took all the credit and forgot all about them. With new members

[@robinlynn7483]

She did sing lead and they just played the instruments on her project so…

[@Diesel0807]

The Tuesday night music club people all got screwed and they were the reason the music was soo good

[@p1dru2art]

That's not true at all

[@kikkomom]

Prob no one is gonna see this, but as a woman musician in the ‘80s (still side-gig occasionally), I can tell you with confidence that there are always men tryin’ to minimize you or tear you down. I can’t personally speak to her intentions, but I understand the mountain she climbed. Can’t hate on her for this. Let me hear a woman’s commentary on her career, then we’ll talk.

[@lindamorgan2678]

Read the comments and you will see Joni Mitchells comments on her

[@kikkomom]

@@lindamorgan2678 Thanks. Mad respect for Joni Mitchell - I cut my teeth to her music in the ‘60s - and appreciate you pointing me in that direction. My comment wasn’t about whether Crow deserves entry into the RRHoF (she doesn’t), or her talent, but rather, women in the music biz.✌🏼🌸

[@pablodelsegundo9502]

Wow, I had no idea of so much here. Love her or not, she's had a hell of a life.

[@rochskier]

I feel like the media and marketers really downplayed or totally ignored Sheryl's history with Michael Jackson when she was, "introduced," as a solo act in the 90s.

[@Whitleythe13th]

I got to see The Bad Tour in 1988 in Atlanta Ga at the Omni...SC before she had a record singing with Michael Jackson...she was so pretty... she downplayed her beginning with MJ

[@ecapa0020]

On her first album, not one of the tracks were written solely by herself. She relied on many others to create/compose these tracks.

[@g.d.h.]

How many do you think Sinatra or Elvis wrote? Hell Elvis tried to pressure Dolly Parton into giving him a songwriting credit for “I will always love you”, having done absolutely nothing to it. As for the “Tuesday Night Club” comments, I’m sure some stories are real. But I bet there is a lot of jealousy towards her and anything that said needs to be taken with a grain of salt. End of the day, she’s got a 30+ year career, sold 50+ million albums. Cudos to her.

[@TKDunn-qq7kd]

Makes sense - that album sucks...

[@sigma80]

And......

[@ecapa0020]

@@sigma80 Yes, that's the facts.

[@darkoanton5]

Sinatra never stole any songs. In fact, songwriter Jimmy Webb always said he was acknowledged by Sinatra during his live shows. However, arrangers are not songwriters and therefore have no copyright claim.

[@blackphillip8486]

Her song Home still crushes me anytime I hear it. Beautiful.

[@hittingnote75]

She is a pop singer in my book

[@TheRockinDonkey]

pop is a sub-genre of rock, so...

[@paulwally9007]

@@TheRockinDonkey What?!?

[@panhead55]

Yeah, but your pages are stuck together…

[@paulwally9007]

@@panhead55 Thanks for the imagery. : D

[@drummmmerfish]

i like sheryl i really do. and while i sympathize with certain issues she had to go thru, she not only hitched her wagon to every famous band or musician for "cred" (thus being over exposed since 98-ish), but its legend here in l.a. how she screwed over the guys in the "music club". then again its not uncommon for that to happen here.

[@baylorsailor]

"he says his name is William, but I'm sure its Bill or Billy, or Mack, or Buddy..." I have news for you Sheryl, Bill and Billy is the nickname for William. Alanis would call that "Ironic". 🤣

[@ladyprudence6]

That's the joke.

[@mlwilliam213]

Her friends from the Tuesday Night Music Club really proved that her saying it was a lot of bitterness was true when they called her a “marginally talented singer.” I’ve seen her live and she had everything as a singer, most notably power, range, and control which I never heard in her radio hits. There wasn’t a single area where she was “marginally talented.” Maybe I saw her on her best night, but she’s one of the best vocalists I’ve ever heard. Impressive in every way.

[@zeruchofficial]

What she wasnt was a remotely decent songwriter, and being in close quarters with both Gilbert and Baerwald shored that up. Crow was a opportunistic wretch in general, but the reason her first two records were listenable and the rest of her catalog is one long collection of tourism ad jingles kind of speaks for itself.

[@mlwilliam213]

@@zeruchofficial that’s totally subjective. Home, Anything But Down, Difficult Kind are some of her best songs imo and she’s the only writing credit. In the end, she’s a vocalist, and I don’t think there’s any debate about whether she’s good at that or not.

[@curragh4635]

@@mlwilliam213 jeff trott is all over those songs and didnt get credit for it.

[@kingtrance307]

@@curragh4635- Yes Trott did. Just read the credits and liner notes!

[@kingtrance307]

She’s an incredibly talented artist. I’ve seen her only once live and she’s probably the best female vocalist I’ve ever seen live in over 45 years of attending shows. This video is a bit of a hit job for clicks. Her talent can’t be denied and she works her ass off.

[@Its6string]

I see some comments on here slamming her for relying on the people in her band to help her write!! Which I find strange, bcuz I can remember when surrounding yourself with really good musicians was a good thing!!! In fact, I don’t know any great musicians or bands that don’t surround themselves with really smart, talented people!!!

[@Its6string]

@@fenris6051 No doubt, she’s got an impressive catalog of really good songs!! I was laid up for a little over a year, so I started going thru my collection of music that I started about 50 years ago-bcuz I wanted to start making a some playlists!! Sheryl was in there with countless other bands/artists-needless to say, I started listening to her again!! And like any other good artist, her music still stands up!!!

[@anabidingdude8079]

I always felt that Crow's first three albums were oblique autobiographical stories of her experience in becoming a successful musician. TNMC was small town girl comes to the big city, the eponymous second album was about dealing with the overnight fame of success, The Globe Sessions was about the disillusionment that rock star success didn't necessarily bring happiness. It was kind of no wonder she hit writer's block with her fourth album (C'mon, C'mon) because she caught up with her own experience and didn't have that well to draw from. I've always felt that she's a great singer-songwriter (but always with strong writing partners) and her second album and The Globe Sessions were her best because they had this great combo of pop accessibility and rock 'n' roll edge.

[@brucefranklin6295]

Very good assessment of her early career. I 100% agree that her second and third albums are her best stuff. The first album has a few good songs,but overall is not all that strong.Those bunch of guys that co-wrote and worked on that first record may have been instrumental in getting her career started,but she surpassed what they did over the next couple records.

[@MoeSlislack]

there are loads of hateful comments here but i totally agree with yours. i really liked her first 3 albums. the second 1 is my favorite. i always assumed a lot of the songs were from her own experiences.

[@anabidingdude8079]

@@MoeSlislack I agree. I played her second album over and over in the mid-90s. Just a great rock 'n' roll record in which she came into her own as a songwriter and artist.

[@TikuVsTaku]

I feel like the 1st & 2nd were both great, the 3rd one was ok, and after that it was just a downhill…✌️

[@markboron5581]

One of the very few honest comments here. Agreed.

[@Connection-Lost]

"She had only ever lived in St. Louis so she was overwhelmed by the sights and sounds of LA" It's literally the same thing but one is cold and one is warm. Both have skyscrapers and bums and lots of people.

[@dg-hughes]

I'm amazed how everyone commenting here seems to know every detail of her life lmao . Like most people in 1993 I was a fan of Sheryl Crow's music when her album came out. I didn't know much about her though even though it was at the cusp of websites and Internet chat where fans of hers met. I think it's just the same old story that any business is all about money and the music business is worse add to that it's art so add emotions, credibility, money all that makes a mess.

[@davemakarchuk5127]

Don't know if they know every detail of her life, but they seem to know much more about it than you.

[@harveymccluskey3270]

She is an Amazing Musician!!!!!!! Im a Fan!!!!!

[@danielleal1037]

13:00 I lived in a small town in northern Michigan back in 1999/2000, and indeed only at Radio Shack and K-Mart (where I bought Skynyrd’s “Muscle Shoals Sessions”) could any records be found.

[@markkempton4579]

I don't even recall Radio Shack carrying music. I remember some software.

[@SHEEPLESUCK]

She bombed in Cleveland at the rock and roll hall of fame concert back in 94 also. She covered the stones song let it bleed and it was awful.

[@markkempton4579]

@@SHEEPLESUCK it was '95, but now I need to find the concert. I thought it was weird that she was featured the same year she hit it big.

[@jimbeam7160]

Her Stones' cover songs......suck. "All Down The Line" sucks so bad because she doesn't think about what she covers. She has no objectivity.@@SHEEPLESUCK

[@Bat_Boy]

Her first album is fantastic, however, I never went further in listening to her music. Thank you for the details, because I was always very curious about her.

[@docsavage8640]

First 3 are all damn good. Lost interest with "Soak Up the Sun" and that album, haven't followed anything since so can't say

[@llapalme4407]

Her first album wasn’t even hers. It was the Tuesday Night Music Clubs’. She basically stole it.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Her first album was basically Kevin Gilbert’s. No one else. He was the true talent of the TNMC. Anyone notice how she’s done nothing in thirty years.

[@ecapa0020]

On her first album, not one of the tracks were written solely by herself. She relied on many others to create/compose these tracks.

[@g.sferrazza10-13]

I would say everything after 'My Favorite Mistake' sounded hacked and half baked

[@thecreativeguitarlounge]

Saw her live twice - she was superb as was her band.

[@kitano0]

As good as her records are, I think she is a really great live artist...

[@thecreativeguitarlounge]

I agree - I saw her in my home town of Glasgow which has a famously demanding audience. She put on a great show and had some brilliant repartee with the crowd both times. @@kitano0

[@sixslinger9951]

I would rather have all my teeth pulled

[@thecreativeguitarlounge]

Each to their own 🫣😆@@sixslinger9951

[@KevinJ.McCarthy]

You Must Have Been Sitting Up In "The Pot Cloud." 😂.

[@DesertScorpionKSA]

If Crow ripped off all those people at The Tuesday Night Writers Club, then they should have been able to find success too. Obviously, she brought something unique to the table and that's why she "made" it.

[@ms8596]

Plus, if they had a real leg to truly stand on, they all would have viscously sued her. JHC, people have sued other artists for lessor claims.

[@Slide61]

I have met several folks like Cheryl over the years. All had limited stand alone talent. They were very good at using talented people.

[@samanthab1923]

I think she learned from the best. Back up singer for Michael Jackson & girlfriend of Eric Clapton

[@AndrewLemmings]

As a kid, I was the same way. Being a musician, I always wanted to know what parts were played by which member and how to play each instrument part and vocal part. I was very detail oriented. My dad banned me from listening to certain bands I liked as a result because he confused it for an obsession with the bands themselves rather than just a fascination with the individual parts of each musician, etc.

[@TheBatugan77]

Dad sounds like a schnook. A putz, a yutz, a schmuck and a schmeggeggie.

[@slowery43]

wow nobody cares in the least, this isn't all about you

[@phoebexavier7050]

I'm only 6:40 in, but she DID NOT write All I wanna do. It is a poem written by a Vermont based poet.

[@SirDerp909]

He said that.

[@TheBatugan77]

HAH! You got TOLD , Phoebe! ☝️😆👌

[@phoebexavier7050]

oh lol @@SirDerp909

[@Roadieguru]

Rock And Roll - Hall Of Fame?? Give Me A Break?

[@waggsish]

a Joke

[@intercommerce]

After watching this video, she studied and worked hard for her career, so the word "Phony?" in the thumbnail is gratuitous click-bait.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Sheryl would be absolutely nothing without Kevin Gilbert ( Toy Matinee) . He was the real deal,

[@patrickjordan5633]

Couldn't agree more!!

[@DogStar84]

100% true. RIP KG

[@ratatatuff]

Never heard of that guy before. Didn't seem to have any impact on the music scene.

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@ratatatuff Then you're living in a cave or outta touch with reality.

[@ratatatuff]

@@alexnutcasio936 Nah, I'm just keeping it real. Just because you are a huge fanboy doesn't mean that he was important.

[@alxra]

she's suffered from severe bipolar disorder for her entire adult life and it has obviously affected her personal relationships. People get to know her and want to get away from her. Her refusal to not accept responsibility and do something to fix that problem is evident in the constant damage you see over her life and career she's done to everyone she's been involved with. When Lance Armstrong says he doesn't want to get married because he doesn't want anymore kids, then he goes and has kids with his next girlfriend, that says it all.

[@philfrank5601]

Lance Armstrong is hardly an example to use for, well...anything.

[@Menstral]

​@@philfrank5601...except maybe the worst kind of cock-rock level douche

[@alxra]

@@philfrank5601 except that crow wanted to marry him, LOL!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ReviewsChannel-e4r]

@@philfrank5601 Drugging his way to Tour de France wins doesn't set any kind of example or as a role model.

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

@@ReviewsChannel-e4r I don't give him a pass for doing it but all of the riders are using PE drugs. There's no way they can keep the pace they keep naturally.

[@davidstair9657]

Gah! Hated her stuff that dominated the airwaves during my early 20’s… every few minutes… and we promoted her stuff at Sam the Record Man like crazy… I still have waking dreams about fucking car washes.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

Sheryl Crow was one of my 90s crushes. I'm glad Rock n Roll True Stories did a "Whatever Happened to?" video on Sheryl. 😊

[@meisterlymanu5214]

u dont get to tour with MJ without being hugely driven and ruthless. But there is nothing substantial about her, she sold records sure but it all seems hollow. Her legacy is what...

[@KiddiAgnars]

how she treated Kevin Gilbert is horrible.

[@michael7054]

😅

[@jlogg8738]

Oh, you mean the scumbag drug addict boyfriend that cheated on then then offed himself while rubbing one out?

[@kingofallwhites]

Thank you for bringing this to light. She’s really the devil isn’t she? And it looks like she aided and abetted Lance Armstrong too in his fraud.

[@dominikaksiazek7177]

How? Honestly, I've never heard that story.

[@keithconnell8460]

Personally I’ve always considered her a dirt bag, this story aside.

[@karenscigliano9787]

Some people never miss an opportunity to slam a talented & successful woman. The misogynists are always alive & well and ever present, but never themselves doing anything worthwhile. I suppose living with so much hate tends to squash the creative and positive inspirations in life, however remote they may be.

[@davemakarchuk5127]

What's it got to do with gender? People are making the point that her talent is very underwhelming considering the level of success she achieved. If we're being honest, it's a point that's difficult to argue, you hack.

[@adamsangry]

I wonder if Sheryl has armed guards at her concerts to protect her. When she gives up her guns maybe I will take her concerns seriously.

[@gtrdoc911]

So much hate. She's a good singer, plays multiple instruments. She's the real deal.

[@dalegreer3095]

$67k in 1990 would be $161,500 today!

[@mikeandstony]

She had a lot of people helping her, and she never acknowledged them. She's got an average voice.

[@gmb858]

Very informative and presented well. In retrospect, Sheryl Crow peaked with the Globe Sessions which was a very good group of songs. I saw her at Humphreys by the Bay in San Diego... great show.

[@blackphillip8486]

Love that album. Anything But Down still gets me everytime. Idk how that wasn't a bigger hit for her.

[@TheBatugan77]

I remember Humphrey's. No fan of Crow. The Black Crows are Okay though.

[@g.sferrazza10-13]

Agreed once she started, soaking on the sun and putting out bland covers as singles, it was all downhill... Now, when you think about it a session for one album gives way in some cases 2 to 3 times what is on it. So it kind of checks, that she only had 3 albums worth of good musical ideas from being with a certain group musicians for a period of time.

[@carlwilliams6977]

I've always found her voice to be very thin, and thought she should be a backup singer at best!

[@hkirkgearing]

I saw her play in Nashville weeks before she hit it big....the crowd wasn't impressed. I think she opened for Crowded House that night.

[@robzilla730]

She did the musical equivalent of the casting couch

[@platboy1789]

not even close geek

[@robzilla730]

@@platboy1789 can't read between the lines, dork?

[@keithad6485]

Where is your evidence to support your claim? Were you in the room when this is supposed to have happened? If no, how do you know? Just cos someone told you this happened does not prove the claim.

[@robzilla730]

@keithad6485 it's right there in the vid if you can read between the lines. I don't know how old you are but I remember hearing back in the 90s about her doing her band dirty. Connect the dots or you don't know women... P.S, did you know Mira Sorvino got her Oscar by sleeping with Harvey Weinstein? Proof:she fell off the face of the earth after winning. Harvey was done with her. Lol

[@Torgo1969]

She love you long time!

[@Alan-in-Bama]

I'm a huge lover of all types of music....and she had several songs that I really liked. I really wish ALL celebrities would keep their political opinions to themselves....if I agree with them or not !

[@thetruthisoutthere8598]

For whatever reason they always think their opinion is the one everyone should hold

[@Fuphyter]

Agreed Politics should be personal, just as spirituality should be left alone too. The only great thing artists can do is to help foundations for those in need. If I had $$$ I would start one called "Manhattan to Montauk" to help public schools keep music and art programs. When School Districts don't get funding, the first to go are those classes. I'm a Long Islander, if I didn't have art and music in school it would have sucked! Creative kids need an outlet. Our Veterans need help desperately. They risk their lives for us and some are homeless!!! So wrong

[@Alan-in-Bama]

@@Fuphyter I Agree completely. I played in our middle school band for 3 years and the Art club in high school. I've been a musician, music and art lover my entire life since. These programs should absolutely be preserved !

[@Fuphyter]

@@Alan-in-Bama Me too! I started piano at 8, drums at 12 and I ended up being a singer. I paint, create jewery, sculpt etc. My fav artist is Maxfield Parrish. He has been since I was 16...in the 70s.

[@Alan-in-Bama]

@@Fuphyter That’s awesome ! Never stop !

[@100perdido]

She missed her calling as a country singer. Listen to her recordings with Willie Nelson and tell me her is not as good or better than most of them. But she chose to not go that way. Like her or not, she went her own way and she is an amazing talent.

[@dwade6322]

Michael Jackson's manager Frank Dileo was an actor in the GOODFELLA'S movie.

[@dlmyrs]

Wait, she had a second album? J/k. Never heard anything past her first…

[@ana34602]

She has a whole lot of albums. Globe Sessions was her best

[@ReviewsChannel-e4r]

Chuckled when they said Walmart wanted her to throw competitor K Mart under the bus if she wanted albums sold. lol

[@simonrae3048]

Thanks for the presentation. Most on here seem to think you are slagging her off (which you aren't) and want to join in. Personally, I think she f77777g great and fully deserves the RRHF accolade. Cheers

[@billyhughes9776]

Sheryl seems to be a person that fought hard for her career, but she made some mistakes. Biggest take away from watching/listening to this is how unbelievably shitting and disgusting the industry was back then. And, still is -- it's different -- but the profit motive is still the driving force.

[@jamminwithjambo7729]

Sheryl Crow is a great talent. I dare not judge her on her personal life. No one is perfect. I just love her.

[@dcs1106]

Tuesday night music club made her. She then turned around and crapped on them.

[@onepointofview]

Listen to Kevin Gilbert

[@Shopsmith10er]

Gun grabber and then THIS>>> April 24, 2007 Wrapping up a nationwide global warming tour, singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow posted a quirky "solution" online about a new way to save the environment. She wrote: "I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting."

[@lindamorgan2678]

Woke Agenda

[@gmoodeed3573]

She told us we should only use one square of toilet paper! To wipe our asses! Do you remember that gem!

[@erich9011]

Why does SC have to show up on stage at every country music event? Did she ever make a country album. She's a media grifter of epic proportions.

[@subnormality.]

Yes, she released a country album in 2013-- "Feels Like Home."

[@toddrichardson8595]

She screwed Kevin Gilbert and the Tuesday Night Music Club Royally. No respect whatsoever for her and her limited talent.

[@Krullmatic]

She screwed up just about everybody she worked with!

[@rustybear5125]

If you think Sheryl Crow has limited talent, then you have no idea what talent is.

[@stormbringercoming8105]

What REALLY bothers me about Sheryl Crow is that she has to be on every damned tribute album or TV show! Her ruthlessness slightly exceeds her talent. That’s what it takes to be famous. No thanks.

[@acelarson1872]

Kevin Gilbert made her, there is so much to the story not told here but great job.

[@feloniousmonk3049]

Those in the music industry, especially the studio musicians at the time, are very much in the know.

[@minus100plus2]

What about her time at MI? Do you know about this? Did you wonder where the XYZ influence ever came from? Or why she actually originally moved to LA? Look up her time at the Musicians Institute of Hollywood during the 80s and she was there for a brief amount of time.

[@timothydillow3160]

Thanks to Sheryl Crow I've only used one roll of toilet paper now in the last 4 years.

[@aquatarkus2022]

Re the availability of records in a small town. True, many towns only had a Walmart, but there was also mail order, Columbia House Record Club, and tape trading.

[@claytonbouldin9381]

BMG Music Club was the other company you could buy ten records for a penny! I remember those days.

[@BeesWaxMinder]

I think I'm tempted to cry "Clickbait" at this! I mean, while all this is new to me, it just basically describes what everyone has to do in the industry to get ahead mixed with takes of being true to herself; of battling through a life-threatening disease and a lot of misunderstandings ...is all🤷‍♂️

[@intercommerce]

Exactly. No way she seems to be a phony, she worked for her career according to this video, so it IS clickbait!

[@oscarsegovia833]

Yep, clickbait for sure

[@ronmikkelsen9443]

The 90s was a good place for good music and tragedy. ❤

[@floydsemlow8253]

❤ absolutely 💯😁

[@JudoChamp]

Ya, kind of like every decade....

[@johnwinnard5589]

She dumped Lance Armstrong because he was half nuts.

[@bobthebear1246]

😂🥁

[@pamelapoulos5019]

I thought they made a perfect couple! 😂

[@gb18407]

Pun intended 😂

[@ana34602]

All those hormones I’m sure affected his personality

[@bossdog1480]

I remember her saying at one time that she didn't want "All I Wanna do" to be the first song she was known for. I think it was the one that got her foot in the door.

[@Kevin_747]

I'm Mizzou alum. She has done well financially for sure but she's a gun grabber, 'nuff said.

[@Jamzocd]

Soft rock pop is what I’d call her. She’s good though and puts on a good show. She’s got a good backup band. I saw her at the Hollywood Bowl in 2022. It was a double bill with Keb Mo which is what I really came to see. Keb was great.