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Gustav Holst - The Hymn of Jesus (1917)

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@Cmaj7
@Cmaj7 5 жыл бұрын
Prelude 00:01 Introduction 02:45 Chant The Hymn 05:47 Glory to thee 08:09 Fain would I... 10:09 Dance 12:20 To you who... 13:55 Divine ye... 15:02 Chant 16:40 Beholding what I suffer 18:23 Rest on me 20:12 Ending (Glory to thee reprise)
@iangowers9514
@iangowers9514 5 жыл бұрын
If this is what the music in heaven is like, then we all have a great deal to look forward to. God bless Gustav for showing us the way.
@Churchcantor
@Churchcantor 2 жыл бұрын
Where it is to be hoped there is music, but no more sad partings...Felix Mendelssohn.
@Hailstormand
@Hailstormand 7 жыл бұрын
Ha! Holst was right. He did write better music than the Planets.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 4 жыл бұрын
^
@randomserb761
@randomserb761 4 жыл бұрын
Ode to Death is wonderful and harrowing
@polyminutes8788
@polyminutes8788 2 жыл бұрын
This here
@HelloooThere
@HelloooThere 6 ай бұрын
So did Paul McCartney, Bro This is boring!
@Maddenhawk
@Maddenhawk 3 ай бұрын
​@@HelloooTherewhat?
@hoffy63
@hoffy63 3 жыл бұрын
Having had the utter joy of performing this piece twice I can honestly say it is one of my favourite choral/orchestral works. A wonderful recording.
@artdanks4846
@artdanks4846 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why! This is the first time I've ever even HEARD this piece, and have totally fallen in love with it! I'm a singer as well, and have sung a LOT of wonderful choral works, but am so sorry that this work is sooo UNDER-done and not as well known! I would have loved to sing this, but now at age 66, not very likely. Thank God for You Tube, and for those people that post this kind of wonderful music!
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 10 ай бұрын
I envy you. I've never sung it, or even heard it live.
@hoffy63
@hoffy63 10 ай бұрын
@@jimslancio I know I am very fortunate because it is rarely performed.
@lukestalley9204
@lukestalley9204 3 ай бұрын
There will be a performance of it (among other works) on the 21st June 2024 at 7pm in Canterbury Cathedral by the LMP and Canterbury Choral society. So it is performed! Just not often.
@hoffy63
@hoffy63 3 ай бұрын
Just two days after I leave the UK!! 😢
@vincentandrews301
@vincentandrews301 5 жыл бұрын
Very underrated. By far the best Holst piece I've ever heard.
@Maxime_Grisé
@Maxime_Grisé 7 жыл бұрын
The opening chant (in the trombone section) is directly based off "Pange lingua gloriosi", a Gregorian hymn sung on Holy Thursday in the Catholic Church.
@bb8319
@bb8319 4 жыл бұрын
THANK you for posting this - when our college choir director had us prepare and perform this miraculous piece in1974, I had no idea of the lifetime GIFT he had planted in my heart. Now, YOU have relit a fire in me for not only this masterwork - something that Holst heard in his mind, which was given to him from him, from the glorious unseen world - but also for something that the God of Love and Suffering and JOY wants to use ME to create, as well....
@JoaoFurtadoCoelho777
@JoaoFurtadoCoelho777 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the upload. It's really good when one can have the music sheets in front of one's eyes... As to the actual performance, I knew it before... and find it very good... It seems the English will be the last to "discover" Holst -:)) Shared on Google+
@thehilligan
@thehilligan 3 жыл бұрын
we do know about Holst. The Holst Museum is a few miles from me, in Cheltenham, where he was born. There is a statue of him in the park at Montpellier. He wrote the tune to "In the Bleak Midwinter" down the road, in Cranham..which is why the tune is called Cranham. The cottage where he stayed is called Midwinter Cottage, and is opposite the pub. There is now a "Holst Walk" nearby
@thehilligan
@thehilligan 3 жыл бұрын
One of his first pieces was called Lansdown Castle, named after a building in that part of Cheltenham
@OrthodoxChristianMusicProject
@OrthodoxChristianMusicProject Жыл бұрын
Nice Catholic Eucharistic adoration hymn as the introductory motif! I only learned of this piece recently and I’m so glad I found it. Thank you for posting this!
@heddwyn3914
@heddwyn3914 Жыл бұрын
The reference is however Gnostic, from the Acts of John.
@Diamonddogusa
@Diamonddogusa 3 жыл бұрын
It has taken me repeated listenings to get a grasp on this. I find it more rewarding each time.
@markrubin9449
@markrubin9449 4 жыл бұрын
I'm probably one of very few singers who have ever performed in this music. I'd love to do it again.
@sueklausshow
@sueklausshow 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to get the chance, it never came up when I was in Indianapolis Symphonic Choir.
@carlpean8626
@carlpean8626 Жыл бұрын
I did this in high school
@AdamMusicWorld
@AdamMusicWorld 3 жыл бұрын
During the quarantine I decided to learn trombone as a secondary instrument just for fun. The intro to this piece was one of the first tunes I learned how to play! Too bad I was alone in a small room rather than in a giant ancient temple surrounded by other trombone players. Oh well lol. Thanks for the upload!
@CH3CH2OCH2CH3net
@CH3CH2OCH2CH3net 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks Holst lost his "edge" after composing The Planets really needs to listen to this piece, which is every bit as radical as The Planets. This is, in every way, one of Holst's truly *great* compositions.
@Titan2492-nv6fo
@Titan2492-nv6fo 17 күн бұрын
Still a few quotes from The Planets here and there, too, i.e. Saturn at 14:37
@martin1024
@martin1024 7 жыл бұрын
It may be the orchestration,but the ending is mysterious like Neptune (a bit). But this piece is abolutely great, reminds me on Bruckners 'Te deum'. I didn't know Holst wrote something like this and I'm delightfully surprised by it.
@Titan2492-nv6fo
@Titan2492-nv6fo 17 күн бұрын
Happen to miss Saturn at 14:37?
@lightspeed174
@lightspeed174 2 ай бұрын
This is a magnificent Hymn in honor of our savior Jesus. May we never forget what a great sacrifice Jesus made for us. God gave us his only begotten son so that we may be saved from our sins. Now doesn't that show us how much God and his son truly love us. Let us never forget that. Anyways, this is simply a very beautiful hymn. Thanks be to Gustav Holst for composing this and to you for uploading this wonderful recording.
@philipelwell4214
@philipelwell4214 3 жыл бұрын
Holst the great mystic master. He's definitely singing relentlessly up there now I would imagine!
@alejandrom.4680
@alejandrom.4680 4 жыл бұрын
Magnificent piece of music. God must be crying at it.
@mikehorton6225
@mikehorton6225 7 жыл бұрын
What a truly marvelous piece of music. Thank you for sharing.
@DaveDexterMusic
@DaveDexterMusic 4 жыл бұрын
"If this cannot be managed, the melody is to be played on the horns." Yeah, trombones. Get your shit together.
@jochanaan58
@jochanaan58 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see the score to this masterwork.
@daniellennon9993
@daniellennon9993 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Holst really liked polytonality.
@Rumptertumskin79
@Rumptertumskin79 7 жыл бұрын
he sure did!
@splodinatekabloominate846
@splodinatekabloominate846 5 жыл бұрын
I jumped out of my chair at rehearsal 3
@grumble2009
@grumble2009 4 жыл бұрын
20:00 where did that tone cluster come from? Love it.
@jsaavedr1
@jsaavedr1 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful piece! Man, I love the Horns in this. Holst really loved writing for us Hornists.
@Apfelstrudl
@Apfelstrudl 4 жыл бұрын
And Hollywood carried it over quite well.
@carlpean8626
@carlpean8626 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he was a trombonist!
@Choristenimes
@Choristenimes 5 жыл бұрын
Magnifique musique ! Subtil mélange de grégorien et de modernité...Et dire que je ne connaissais pas ! :)
@thekingoface8338
@thekingoface8338 5 жыл бұрын
Love when the organ kicks in at 11:23!
@Apfelstrudl
@Apfelstrudl 4 жыл бұрын
When you are at the cinema for a Hollywood movie and boom..
@angelalfonsorojasquiroz5936
@angelalfonsorojasquiroz5936 7 жыл бұрын
Para mi gusto, uno de los Dos mas Grandes Místicos y Espirituales de la Música Inglesa, junto a Vaughan Williams,gracias por esta profunda y maravillosa obra.
@aaronhernandez5625
@aaronhernandez5625 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely gorgeous
@raleighkathman214
@raleighkathman214 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, none of the versions I've ever heard have included the Prelude movement. Absolutely beautiful.
@johnopalko5223
@johnopalko5223 7 ай бұрын
The recording by the London Symphony Chorus & St. Paul's Cathedral Choir with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Sir Charles Groves, Angel S-37455, includes the Prelude. It's a 1978 LP that's compatible with both stereo and quadraphonic equipment.
@jpaparozzi
@jpaparozzi 6 жыл бұрын
You may enjoy the lyrics to this beautiful Hymn of Jesus: HYMN Glory to thee, Father! Glory to thee, Word! Glory to thee, O Grace! Glory to thee, Holy Spirit! Glory to thy Glory! We praise thee, O Father; We give thanks to thee, O shadowless light! Amen. Fain would I be saved: And fain would I save. Fain would I be released: And fain would I release. Fain would I be pierced: And fain would I pierce. Fain would I be borne: Fain would I bear. Fain would I eat: Fain would I be eaten. Fain would I hearken: Fain would I be heard. Fain would I be cleansed. Fain would I cleanse. I am Mind of all. Fain would I be known. Amen. Divine Grace is dancing: Fain would I pipe for you. Dance ye all! Fain would I lament: Mourn ye all! Amen. The Heav'nly Spheres make music for us; The Holy Twelve dance with us; All things join in the dance! Ye who dance not, know not what we are knowing. Fain would I flee: And fain would I remain. Fain would I be ordered: And fain would I set in order. Fain would I be infolded: Fain would I infold. I have no home: In all I am dwelling. I have no resting place: I have the earth. I have no temple: And I have Heav'n. To you who gaze, a lamp am I: To you that know, a mirror. To you who knock, a door am I: To you who fare, the way. Amen. Give ye heed unto my dancing: In me who speak, behold yourselves; And beholding what I do, keep silence on my mysteries. Divine ye in dancing what I shall do; For yours is the Passion of man what I go to endure. Ye could not know at all what things ye endure, Had not the Father sent me to you as a Word. Beholding what I suffer, ye know me as the Sufferer. And when ye had beheld it, ye were not unmoved; But rather were ye whirled along, ye were kindled to be wise. Had ye known how to suffer, ye would know how to suffer no more. Learn how to suffer, and ye shall overcome. Behold in me a couch: rest on me! When I am gone, ye shall know who I am; For I am in no wise that which now I seem. For ye are come to me, then shall ye know: What we know not, will I myself teach you. Fain would I move to the music of holy souls! Know in me the word of wisdom! And with me cry again: Glory to thee, Father! Glory to thee, Word! Glory to thee, Holy Spirit! Amen.
@dabedwards
@dabedwards 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I tried without success to find the words (without signing up to any sites).
@Apfelstrudl
@Apfelstrudl 4 жыл бұрын
12:29 onwards: Everytime the two choirs go a halfstep apart is just sexy.
@jlapierremusic
@jlapierremusic 4 жыл бұрын
The footnote at the bottom of the first page at 0:03 is Holst at his sassiest
@gregoryborton6598
@gregoryborton6598 2 жыл бұрын
I love the dig on the trombone part at the start. "Do it exactly like I say, or don't do it at all".
@eklipsoverda
@eklipsoverda Жыл бұрын
He was a trombonist himself, you know. He knew what he was saying.
@wenaviste
@wenaviste 7 жыл бұрын
Obra maestra. Dios vive en ella, los mortales, el cielo y la tierra. Gracias Holst.
@steveegallo3384
@steveegallo3384 7 жыл бұрын
De Acuerdísimo, Maestro!
@daniloberaldo570
@daniloberaldo570 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this sacred music!
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 2 жыл бұрын
We did this Easter 1997 at the Birmingham conservatoire. Glad I found it again after all these years
@giovannipuliafito
@giovannipuliafito 7 жыл бұрын
Meravigliosa e geniale composizione!
@AlexanderCappellazzo
@AlexanderCappellazzo 2 жыл бұрын
The section at 10:09 feels like proto-John Adams 'Nixon in China' for me with those rhythmic repetitions and harmonies. Love this piece the whole way through.
@shitsumeilegumovitch
@shitsumeilegumovitch Жыл бұрын
I thought that as well
@the_number_e
@the_number_e 4 ай бұрын
If you listen to Fugal Overture, it's even more proto John Adams
@shin-i-chikozima
@shin-i-chikozima 6 жыл бұрын
いいよねえ!素晴らしい❗
@xenoexistence
@xenoexistence 5 жыл бұрын
11:14 gives me chills
@darksuicune1
@darksuicune1 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect to like this but it's actually really good
@thebrasshole6204
@thebrasshole6204 7 жыл бұрын
LSO always masters Holst. Cant get any better.
@vincentledger1616
@vincentledger1616 7 жыл бұрын
Soo true! The Berlin Philharmonic recording of the Planets with Simon Rattle doesn't get anywhere near the LSO one with Sir Colin Davis.
@Kowjja
@Kowjja 9 ай бұрын
Holst really need to be recognised as one of the major figures of the early 20th century in classical music
@PKWysocki
@PKWysocki 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert, but isn't the fragment starting at 3:16 somewhat similar to controlled aleatorism - some 40 years before it was invented?
@harlekiinii
@harlekiinii 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely, and it's quite beautiful!
@klausbaden
@klausbaden 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Holst was a kind of an early Lutoslawski here!!
@dulkoski
@dulkoski 6 жыл бұрын
It was used by Charles Ives and Henry Cowell in the 30s, and Ockeghem used it centuries before.
@alejandrom.4680
@alejandrom.4680 4 жыл бұрын
dulkoski Which piece of Ockeghem uses it?
@alhesiad
@alhesiad 5 ай бұрын
Really good, surprising that is not better known.
@ratonmusical5865
@ratonmusical5865 7 жыл бұрын
que divertido que comienze con el canto llano Pange lingua c:
@potrelviewer9536
@potrelviewer9536 Жыл бұрын
Dear Elgar, that jumpscare at 3:56!
@bergerecossais
@bergerecossais Жыл бұрын
I’m beginning to suspect that John Adam’s went for a short ride in a Time Machine.
@chakkriza234
@chakkriza234 5 жыл бұрын
Prelude is from Tantum ergo sacramentum
@AndreyRubtsovRU
@AndreyRubtsovRU 6 жыл бұрын
5/4 section is v nice
@wolfbar1968
@wolfbar1968 7 жыл бұрын
Magnifiques wonderfuly i love it
@leoholder7839
@leoholder7839 Жыл бұрын
this is definitely source material for John Barry in some of the Bond music in different countries
@giovanniciampi8646
@giovanniciampi8646 4 жыл бұрын
I would love this piece...if it was not so damned full of scare chords è _ é! I literally can't listen to it without jumping on the chair every once in a while. The fact that it tends to be generally low on volume then someone suddenly screams...does not help.
@CraigLemming37
@CraigLemming37 6 жыл бұрын
I adore this.
@muzakmuzak3115
@muzakmuzak3115 6 жыл бұрын
Marvelous.
@MedievalRichard
@MedievalRichard 5 жыл бұрын
Splendid. MR
@TheGedosix
@TheGedosix 7 жыл бұрын
Heard Saturn somewhere in the middle :)
@Titan2492-nv6fo
@Titan2492-nv6fo 17 күн бұрын
14:37
@wilh3lmmusic
@wilh3lmmusic 2 жыл бұрын
5:55 that chord is great
@elsavertiz1606
@elsavertiz1606 Жыл бұрын
Bellísimo!
@GerrlichStudios
@GerrlichStudios 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@jameslecoeur9165
@jameslecoeur9165 6 жыл бұрын
une belle découverte
@jeremiahsalyer7784
@jeremiahsalyer7784 5 жыл бұрын
I've sat next to the low brass for years but I swear I only hear a single instrument. Is it a unison part between horns and trombone?
@DallasBolin
@DallasBolin 4 жыл бұрын
It's meant to be trombone solo; the horn part there is actually just cue notes, as per Holst's very specific instructions to the trombonist as per positions: if the trombonist cannot achieve exactly what Holst asks without what he calls "blurring" of notes (I think that's what it said, anyway), then the solo is to be played by horns instead. That's my understanding, anyway!
@erosbattaglia9148
@erosbattaglia9148 7 жыл бұрын
Un capolavoro
@aguador67
@aguador67 4 жыл бұрын
It's me or the "Introduction" theme is "Pange Lingua"?
@baldrbraa
@baldrbraa 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Fernando González Serra Yes. A slight variant from the Graduale Romanum version.
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 10 ай бұрын
That's what it is. And the first music the trebles sing is the plainsong hymn "vexilla regis."
@alfredoparamo3139
@alfredoparamo3139 4 жыл бұрын
El compositor y musicólogo mexicano José Antonio Alcaraz (1938-2001) consideraba que esta es la obra maestra de Holst. Yo también lo creo
@SuperJox
@SuperJox 3 жыл бұрын
How have I never heard of this piece? I can see it being rarely performed
@sueklausshow
@sueklausshow 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame, but it requires numbers, many numbers of people, 2 satb choirs, plus a treble choir, plus full orchestra. But it SO worth it!
@Gwailo54
@Gwailo54 2 жыл бұрын
@@sueklausshow it’s a perfect piece for the Thee Choirs, especially the acoustics in Gloucester cathedral, yet the festival performs Gerontius to death.
@ConstanzeWeber
@ConstanzeWeber 2 ай бұрын
@@Gwailo54 We're performing it this year at Worcester!! Although I've done it at Gloucester too.
@Gwailo54
@Gwailo54 2 ай бұрын
@@ConstanzeWeber I have noticed it's programmed just a little bit more but not enough. When I have been to the Three Choirs I deliberately avoid Gerontius like the plague. I wish the Three Choirs would revive some of their commissions, such as Philip Cannon's 'Lord of Light'. It is a fantastic piece. I heard it being rehearsed as I walked past Gloucester Cathedral. The sound roared inside and into College Green. Gorgeous! So I decided on the spur of the moment to buy a ticket. One of my better decisions. 🙂
@metodoinstinto
@metodoinstinto 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody else heard Ravel's orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibition in the opening?
@inesdeerausquin5658
@inesdeerausquin5658 5 жыл бұрын
You're right, it's similar! But it's also very clearly a direct quote of the Eucharistic hymn "Pange Lingua" -- look up the Gregorian chant version and it'll be obvious
@canerdeger60
@canerdeger60 6 жыл бұрын
No time signature?
@felixdeckers8863
@felixdeckers8863 6 жыл бұрын
Which instrument is the R H part? French horn?
@granthicks2030
@granthicks2030 6 жыл бұрын
Knuffel - I think you may be misreading the letters "E H" that indicate the English Horn part. The French Horn part is labeled "Hns" except at the very beginning.
@avzarathustra6164
@avzarathustra6164 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@krzem3532
@krzem3532 5 жыл бұрын
OMG he was a genious!
@danminhsonlangdu
@danminhsonlangdu Жыл бұрын
woa
@raffaellopilato3132
@raffaellopilato3132 7 жыл бұрын
bellissimo
7 жыл бұрын
Pity this is so seldom performed!
@jsaavedr1
@jsaavedr1 5 жыл бұрын
It's not an easy piece to sing or play, plus not every place has an organ at their disposal.
@marcustrelle4898
@marcustrelle4898 3 жыл бұрын
I am the lizard king.
@cynthiacassel
@cynthiacassel 10 ай бұрын
All I can say is that chihuahua is my enemy. And I’ve never played this game before because I didn’t know it was a game. I’m not a lesbian though. My phone is unusually dark and I seem to be paired with some woman and I’m not gay. To get justice it always appears as sexwhatever that means.
@pian1sticpeng_in
@pian1sticpeng_in 7 жыл бұрын
heard mars in 15:04
@yuehchopin
@yuehchopin 4 жыл бұрын
gute Sendung
@anotheroneofthecrowd9379
@anotheroneofthecrowd9379 3 жыл бұрын
9:44
@ben-rosfeld
@ben-rosfeld 6 жыл бұрын
10:55
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 4 жыл бұрын
Pantheism or naturalistic pantheism identifies God with the world. There is God, there is the world, but God merges into the world. The material world is the only reality, God is only the sum of all that exists. This is what these sonorities inspire me :)
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylergarrett7572 It's nice what you write, but on our human scale, When the man does not understand the acts of the lord, he sometimes transforms his love into hatred and it is then that the demon seems to whisper to him the poisoned words. Those who believe in God for the answers are the most fragile because they easily transform their devotion into resentment. Religion is not an outside crutch, it is an inner fervor. The Devil is often hidden in this misunderstanding¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Good day sir !
@porkyminch5131
@porkyminch5131 10 ай бұрын
Not once was jesus mentioned. Kind of disappointed...
@HelloooThere
@HelloooThere 6 ай бұрын
Geeez….
@Instinct23-uf1rk
@Instinct23-uf1rk 8 күн бұрын
Looks at the title at the beginning
@musik350
@musik350 6 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm an atheist, I still think that Jesus existed. But I find it inappropriate to link such loud and wonderful music to him as he seemed to be a very modest person.
@thomasbrodrecht6137
@thomasbrodrecht6137 4 жыл бұрын
RDVMusic You see my friend, if He is the Son of the living God, King of Creation, as He claimed and was announced to be, then strong and grand music is simply our best attempt to glorify Him. If their is a God enthroned above, with eyes of flame and a voice of thunder, judging the deeds of all men, then this music is quite fitting. Not as fitting to an average Jewish carpenter dude in the late Roman Empire
@_bruhbus
@_bruhbus 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like skyrim
@Mezzotenor
@Mezzotenor 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not digging this. It's an undisciplined miscellany of techniques and sounds that sounds pasted together, and it calls for a rather extravagant set of performers. To me it's sort of like Honegger's "King David" re-done as a chick flick. Too many times there is a gradually attained silence only to be interrupted by a blast of voices and instruments that again fades away; once or twice is okay, but he cranks this device over and over. As for the text, I find it quite strange: "Ye were not moved; but rather were you whirled around, ye were kindled to be wise." Later, "Behold me as a couch; rest on me." Huh? I guess that's what you get with apocryphal texts.
@heddwyn3914
@heddwyn3914 Жыл бұрын
@@tylergarrett7572 Amen.
@javiermandujano35
@javiermandujano35 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot lie this song is good. But you have to know the Catholic religion is false the religion mixes paganism with the Jewish Messiah. May we all come out of religion and worship the God of Israel in our homes. I may we go to the Hebrew roots of the faith as in knowing the Old Testament and New Testament was written in Ancient Hebrew. I am on this journey people say is heresy even sinful to say Yeshua the Messiah did not do away with the Torah. But he Yeshua did not do away with the Torah, he did away with the Commandments of men which were the Pharisees and also the sacrifice law so there's no more Temple because Yeshua is the ultimate sacrifice. When we believe in the God of Israel but when we are under grace though faith we are to follow the Torah Lest we thought in our heads we have a license to sin. Yeshua came fulfill the Torah not to do away. By the way he has not fulfilled the Torah. According to the Hebrew scriptures all is not fulfilled until Heaven and Earth pass away. Edit: not just the Catholic religion almost every religion also the Catholic Church breaks the Ten Commandments by worshipping idols and even calling the idols God. Even as far as kissing a little doll and saying is Yeshua(Jesus).
@javiermandujano35
@javiermandujano35 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylergarrett7572 I still disagree with you I disagree Catholicism is meant to be a representation of God's word from a "unique point of view". But thank you for being so kind and not being rude like how other people usually respond to me. but may I ask you what do you believe in if you believe in anything? I might learn from you.
@javiermandujano35
@javiermandujano35 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylergarrett7572 I respect you for being kind but it's better to do the right thing is better follow the facts if you know what I mean I mean you're right "you can think any way you want". But this does not mean if you think any way you want you are right. I just try to do my best and follow God. hopefully you do too.
@javiermandujano35
@javiermandujano35 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylergarrett7572 all of us are not perfect but may we do what Yeshua(Jesus) said to do under his Grace.
@heddwyn3914
@heddwyn3914 Жыл бұрын
@@javiermandujano35 The human species is generally not in possession of the facts - without being rude, that includes you (and me.) The text is a Gnostic passage by the way.
@javiermandujano35
@javiermandujano35 Жыл бұрын
@@heddwyn3914 the human species should not listen to the facts is what you’re saying?
@solveigberling1662
@solveigberling1662 9 ай бұрын
3:55 no cause wtf?
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