‘Gutfeld!’ talks about the NYU teacher fired over class being too hard

Greg Gutfeld and guests discuss how NYU students got their organic chem teacher fired because his class was too difficult on ‘Gutfeld!’
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[@gregpek1624]

Mind you wouldn't it be nice if 100 people could sign a petition and then we get rid of Biden or Trudeau?

[@juliebarnett9812]

Yes, yes, yes!

[@harryricochet8134]

Unfortunately you'll have to wait a couple of years for that opportunity, stay strong, here Downunder we now have to wait three years to get rid of the deranged lefties that got elected in April and have set about destroying the country just like many of us predicted they would.

[@angeldee7287]

And not or. Both need to be gone

[@meganluck4352]

That would be awesome if we could do that!

[@kitsunelee007]

Can we have the names of the students who signed this petition so the public will know who not to hire.

[@Antoniberico]

DOX THEM GODAMNIT

[@tobycatVA]

Just disqualify any NYU grad from 2022 and later, on the grounds their degree is suspect.

[@davidsanderson7812]

Freedom of information act is a thing they have to provide it so you can verify it was a legitimate petition

[@stanleydavidlepretre4241]

@123 oie Do you plan to copy and paste this same reply under every comment?

[@anitakristensen4679]

you should be able to tell by the way they fill out the application, and do the interview. during the interview, ask a question pertaining to the subject.

[@stevelawrence8352]

Someone once pointed out that 100 years ago, French and Latin were taught in high school. Now, they're teaching remedial English is being taught in college. The dumbing down process is nearly complete.

[@juliebarnett9812]

We had French and Latin in High School and it wasn't "100 years ago," it was 40 years ago. That was when we were still being taught things.

[@hyacinth4368]

True. Latin in 9th grade, 1970.

[@johnbernstein7887]

@@hyacinth4368 Veni Vidi Vixi

[@ounceofrespect8341]

Idiocracy in real-time

[@williamshelton4150]

I took both French and Latin in a public school in Texas in the early 90s.

[@euux-jtgy7240]

Don’t ever hire an NYU graduate. This is indicative of the school.

[@lawrencetalbot8346]

Or at the very least, don’t ever trust a doctor who graduated from NYU. I always ask each doc where they went to school. Used to be I’d say no to any fox from CA, but now I’ll be adding NYU to that list

[@larrywilliams8063]

Well, I'm sure that most of their career paths will not be employable. These kids are too entitled to work their way up, so they will languish at the bottom wanting to skip steps to the top.

[@WniGrup]

A literal liberal and propaganda producing machine.

[@floydschake1749]

Copy that, going thru any Techs I have from there now, going to have a Major Lab tests tomorrow.

[@lettybastien4624]

@@lawrencetalbot8346 Any diversity hire, sad but true.

[@jojospeechy4848]

UNBELIEVABLE!! Organic chemistry is hard. It's supposed to. Shame on those entitled students and NYU for not standing up for this professor.

[@joisey5896]

This is also part and parcel of what to expect from Affirmative Action admissions that puts unqualified students where they do not belong.

[@jeffduncan9140]

I do not want a doctor who doesn't understand organic chemistry.

[@lawrencemarocco8197]

More east coast elite snowflakes demanding preferential treatment They should all be expelled.

[@adoptmefand8054]

Shame on the 82 parents of the kids that signed the petition l!

[@juliaweber212]

I agree

[@JC-il4or]

Had organic chem in advanced placement in high school. Taught by a genius, Mr. Roberts, who had worked at Oak Ridge in Tennessee. Hardest class ever, and I barely passed. That was on me, not him. These whiners who got their professor fired hurt themselves as well as the students who come after. One day they will need the discipline and data they thought was too hard. I only hope no one dies because of their stupidity. Another case of children whose parents and educators failed to impose reality, control, and life lessons....

[@torgrimhanssen5100]

Nobody will die as nobody will hire below -A for any job related to high risk.

[@iamkesha.]

Unfortunately, what’s happening today is they are changing the policies to accept mediocrity and not excellence. Remember when we, the older people, said those bratty kids will change when they get in the real world? Exhibit 1. Look at 1600 penn ave and the bs being peddled. That is the best example of bratty kids in charge.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*no worries, those students can just self identify as being more intelligent than they really are and qualify for the jobs that require absolute and precise calculations at all times...so when something actually goes wrong the reason will be that math is racist*

[@The-Contractor]

Same here, AP Organic Chem in HS and Organic Chem in college. I worked hard and was grateful for the C+ final grade in college. I think the Prof. knew I was going all out and cut me a bit of a break. Besides old age, best learning experience of my life. Humbled me and taught me to be grateful for "small" successes.

[@rocknroll7400]

@@scottmantooth8785!!

[@JB-ym4up]

You can't get better results by lowering standards.

[@promethiac2641]

Grades are on a curve I thought.. If you all do bad it's adjusted to the curve right?

[@Grizzly_Adams.]

Pfizer is disagreeing with that statement

[@Joreel]

@@promethiac2641 if everyone does badly on the test, then that means the instructor didn't do a very good job on teaching the material. My son who's in college right now has run into this a few times when 2/3 of the class failed the test because it was written poorly and in some cases didn't even have the full sentences so you could understand the question. The teachers usually threw out the test and had them do some extra credit work to bring the grades back up.

[@robertchilders3948]

School is not hard its fun but you learn later in life

[@haroldhead7555]

But, but... equity.

[@TheJojoaruba52]

Organic Chemistry was an incredible course of discipline in college. We all knew that going in and we busted our butts to get an “A” But it wasn’t as hard as Physical Chemistry. No teachers got fired. Lots of students got fired.

[@fenris1168]

Physical Chemistry is all math xD. I struggled a bit with that one...

[@user-is5it3be2q]

For me it's opposite I suffered in organic chemistry due to reaction mechanism and physical chemistry is not hard for me as it's more of mathematics.

[@dttruman]

I roomed with my brother in college (who is now a doctor) said that Organic Chem II was the worse, because you had to typed up reports. But he said it was worth it!

[@justiceandhealing4all]

​@@dttruman those sciences are fake. No wonder why they cannot heal many diseases. It all starts with Mendeleev's chemical elements table that had Ether on top of it originally which they have taken out and replaced by their fake relativity theory and ever since then there were no real breakthroughs not to mention their DNA model is also a fake Mi6 project that does not exist.

[@jamesgunderson9955]

Allways pour the water into the acid, never pour the acid into the water, not that hard.

[@mx6726]

It's a wonder our education system is in the dumpster

[@noahhyde8769]

No, it's no wonder at all, actually.

[@MrManfly]

I sure hope none of these ‘tards are ever my doctor or build my high rise condo or do my heart surgery 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🙄🙄

[@mx6726]

@@noahhyde8769 yessir 😂

[@thekub32]

Tbh the stuff Asians learn in middle and high school is taught in beginning years of college in the US.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*you could compare it to a cesspool of complacency and virtue signaling*

[@kevinwetsch5209]

The students are in for a really rude awakening when they have to face reality. You can't fire reality.

[@promethiac2641]

To be fair.. how often do you use chemistry in your life? Why are generals still a thing? Isn't that like the $10,000 they just gave back?

[@maxpayne2137]

Unfortunately they will be too busy on tik tok to notice.

[@derekwatson449]

Do you think maybe a boss could be unfair? Abusive? Should we keep those bosses around because “you can’t fire reality”?

[@davidking2308]

unfortunately the reality will be a communist style government voted for by students with loan waivers

[@derekwatson449]

@Luminary Harris You’ve utterly lost the plot if you think we should pay people to act unethically. “Oh did your boss touch you inappropriately? Life’s unfair. Did your boss get you fired for their mistake? Life’s unfair. We’re just gonna keep paying them.” Lunacy. Absolute lunacy

[@richardtreat7955]

We need more teachers like this. You have to WORK for everything in life.

[@Jim_Jones_Guyana]

It's funny, but also sad & pathetic to see left-wing liberals in the comment section DEFENDING the firing of this teacher.

[@ursulaglissmann6905]

80 of 300 students signed the petition. I thought majority rules.

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

Maybe they have equity voting rights... Meaning some votes count for more than others.

[@TheFrenchPug]

It was Ranked Choice Voting so he lost.

[@brianmouland209]

Proves 220 students have backbones

[@johnschuh8616]

Enough to frighten administrators, Their careers come first.

[@theanomalous1401]

Sounds like a existential threat to democracy?

[@alexandersakharov1908]

I sucked at organic chemistry, that’s why I became a mechanical engineer 😝

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

I am willing to bet someone with a better understanding of chemistry would prefer not taking physics. Medicine is always in demand. It should be hard to be employed and prescribing drugs.

[@likydsplit8483]

Sooooo true. I switched to computer science.

[@dominicbenecasa7893]

You were smart enough to figure that out unlike the 82 spoiled brats at NYU.

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

honesty is good

[@gorilladisco9108]

@@theghostofmaximumvolume3414 Organic chemistry is not deal solely with medicine. Organic chemistry is what should be called carbon chemistry since long time ago (like, since late 19th century). It was called organic chemistry because people back then thought that carbon could only be found inside living beings. But late 19th century came with discoveries that many other things also contained carbon. However, scientific community just neglected to change its name and it stuck until today. Today, carbon chemistry involves things like plastic and bomb and plastic bomb, and also many other stuffs. About 50% of our knowledge about chemistry is involving carbons. Hence it branched out as its own field.

[@denniskoppo4259]

Just another example of how the huge tuitions paid by college students has put them in charge of the place.

[@denniskoppo4259]

@Mom Mom I think if kids can get a teacher fired because his course is too hard, they are in charge of the place, period.

[@davidstaudohar6733]

@Mom Mom W😎 W absolutely wonderful Awesome comment on the subject 🙄

[@denniskoppo4259]

@Mom Mom In your first comment to me you said that colleges don't care about education and will do anything to keep the tuition rolling in. Well that was my point. Now you're implying that college did the right thing by firing a teacher that was not educating properly. Which is it?

[@elliottalderson2788]

Our generation just hung our heads in shame ...

[@stanleydavidlepretre4241]

@123 oie Once again I gotta ask do you plan to copy and paste this same reply under every comment?

[@harryricochet8134]

@@stanleydavidlepretre4241 Indeed. The appalling grammar and sentence construction is an ironic public testament to its authors own abjectly woeful education, but they'd need a second functioning brain cell to have a scintilla of self-awareness lol

[@stanleydavidlepretre4241]

@@harryricochet8134 Agree with everything you typed. I remember a time if a person was in the single digit IQ range they at least had the decency to sit in the corner and drool. Now we have social media where everyone can give their opinion on everything... Yippee. Now I'm certain that on occasion I've been just as wrong as the next guy but wow some of the nonsensical gibberish I've seen online. At times I wonder if the mothers and fathers of these "special" people might actually be in reality brother and sister. At least knowing these future Darwin award recipients are around makes my life seem not that bad.

[@harryricochet8134]

@@stanleydavidlepretre4241 Indeed, too true. The post-modern age is a time where classic Dunning-Kruger effect facilitated by social media is in plague proportions. Again the irony is that those very same devices which provide this access are also responsible for plummetting IQ scores throughout the younger generations in Western society.

[@dr.asthamishra6070]

I would have been thrilled to be taught by the professor who wrote the book I was studying.

[@rzu7120]

I was taught by a (psychology) professor who wrote the book he used in his class, and he was an idiot!

[@downtownd1351]

I missed that too...so they got rid of the prof who wrote the book for the class?! Mind blown...so sad to see humans continue to devolve

[@jojospeechy4848]

Me too! That would have been an honor and a great educational experience.

[@crotalusatrox7931]

No kidding, me too. I'd of hung to his every word and have known that textbook from front to back. They should feel honored to be his student.

[@maggot6849]

@@jojospeechy4848 Not to mention how much easier it is to ask questions on something in the book by the guy who wrote it. Like, if you want an explanation on something in it's purest and most easily understood form, then ask the bloke that wrote all about. That is a MAJOR advantage in the aspect as well as the honour of having been taught by such a person. People are stupid hahaha

[@patpozzuto4809]

Wow, never thought I would live long enough to see the day when a Medical degree from NYU would have the same value as a sheet of toilet paper... Congratulations to the genius at NYU!

[@caliscribe2120]

1977 UCLA organic chemistry class was a nightmare. I worked my butt off and got a B-. I, however, did not blame the professor. It was though the end of my pre-med major.

[@andreleverettejr3747]

How was it the end for you and you had a passing grade above a C

[@torgrimhanssen5100]

@@andreleverettejr3747 C might be a passing grade in your book. If you want to get a job in any high end field you need an A. And if you want some exclusive job opportunity you need to average A.

[@Jbridge621]

@@torgrimhanssen5100 Actually I was never asked my individual course grade in any course after university. The masters program only cared about my final GPA in my bachelors degree. No job in the states gives a crap about an individual class grade at university. Not even your GPA. They only care about the degrees you got. But that is the US, other countries may be vastly different. I know it was a big deal in France 35 years ago in terms of your handwriting . you could be completely rejected from a job if they didn’t like your handwriting style. it had nothing to do with legibility, they actually judged your personality on your writing style

[@jenniferyates8695]

@@torgrimhanssen5100 I really appreciate the answer you gave. It showed the level of maturity and your understanding of reality. I also very much appreciate that you didn't blame the teacher.

[@mpetersen6]

Every year prospective medical school students have several hurdles to jump. One is their MCat score. Think SAT for med school. The second is their GPA. Every year there's a different GPA required. The third is interviews at prospective schools. Plus there is a financial hurdle. Not the price of tuition. The medical schools charge you a fee to APPLY in the first place. The higher the schools reputation. The higher the fee.

[@mikeakey3358]

Newest question to weed out the bad ones: Did you attend NYU, doctor?

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

rightttt

[@SaravanjaSteele]

This happened in one of my classes twenty years ago. It was a basic Astronomy class. The professor is brilliant. A friend of mine and I ate this class up. It was challenging, but he gave you all the tools necessary to do well if you did the work. It was a special class for supposedly superior minds with extra talent, and every student except for my friend and I, went to complain that he was making it too hard. I was so pissed off that I went to the administration in defense of him. They didn't fire him, but they did attempt to get him to dumb down the class a little. He declined. The man worked on the Cassini mission as a physicist for crying out loud! I'd rather get a C in a class that was too challenging than an easy A. I did get an A in this class btw. I have to toot my own horn a little, because I'm one of those humanities majors and this was a science class. It was quite satisfying doing the work and learning this subject. We actually started the class with people that thought we have more than one moon orbiting Earth. And they were supposed to be the cream of the crop. And this was twenty years ago. Sorry to see it's gotten worse.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Each and every day, humans go above and beyond at being awful.

[@stanleydavidlepretre4241]

@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Thinking that the Darwin awards need to make a comeback. Recognize the truly special single digit IQ level people that live among us.

[@jamesdavidson4769]

SaravanjaSteele, That really had to be stopped from the very beginning before it escalated.

[@donnabashline4933]

Good for you. That's how it should be. 6oy deserve a little horn tooting and great job standing up for your professor. You're most definitely the kind of person I would want in my company or as a friend.

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

for sure

[@AmishMan777]

This happened at my high school 15 years ago…our orchestra teacher was world class. He helped compose music for Lord of the Rings among countless incredible accomplishments. He was stern, took his job seriously, and under his leadership we won the gold in what is the equivalent to States Championship. But he expected the students to take orchestra seriously, and most of us did. Most of us had a deep respect for him. But a handful of kids who just joined orchestra to goof off complained that he was too strict and difficult. The school held a town meeting where dozens of parents and students showed up begging the school not to fire him. Yet the 3 or 4 parents who were complaining beat out the many more who opposed them. They fired the greatest orchestra teacher in all of NYS, and ever since their strings program has been a joke. Of course, our teacher went on to do great things, conducting the Buffalo Philharmonic, but it was a sad, sad time.

[@Marketsolo]

Wow, now I will want to make sure none of them get hired as chemistry workers.

[@turdfurgeson517]

That's the only way we can win a war on culture. You can't just hire someone on line because they have a degree. While someone who is actually intrigued in that area and is self taught and has a firm in their belly. You can mold them much more to run your business and they will be loyal for giving them a chance and treating them fairly and not discrimination for not having a degree. I'm a commercial fisherman and I have a friend who is a marine biologist and when we are on a fishing trip together and someone ask him a question about the ocean he looks at me and says ask the expert.

[@VanityDivined]

Oh, don’t you worry. Whatever fire they start during their internships will ensure that 😂

[@andreleverettejr3747]

They should be black listed

[@eggbass]

Chemistry workers? Try doctors. Most kids who take that class are med students.

[@Marketsolo]

I myself took organic chemistry for my nursing program. Yes, it was hard, but only because it was important. Those whining brats should be removed from the program. Obvi, they will be subpar and we already have too many subpar drs.

[@Jbridge621]

The way I got thru organic chemistry was to sit in front, take notes, borrowed smart peoples notes, wrote down everything I could remember not understanding after every test all the way thru the final. When I arrived for the final the professor took me aside to explain that I couldn’t pass even with a perfect test score. I just smiled and said I know, I have already registered to take your class again next semester and I’m pretty sure I will understand enough to pass it then. And I did😂

[@pattiehernandez769]

reminds me of high school chemistry, ended up trading my study class for 2nd chemistry class of the day ( 3rd period and 6th period ) ... I passed ... and had three different chemistry classes in college.

[@colerape]

Oh so true. That was my biology story to a T. 😆

[@kristybrown474]

Me too. Second time through was during a summer semester and was basically a total immersion experience, but I did it!

[@aaronburdon221]

That's the point of class. It's kind of the reason they go. My computer Networking/programming class was a royal pain in the butt. I passed it, but just barely despite the considerable amount of study and work I put into it. What I learned is that my skillset is not in Networking/programming.

[@David_Jones8112]

Chemistry is a lot easier if it's what you actually want to do for a career and you have an affinity for learning it. They aren't factoring that part in.

[@kevinwetsch5209]

Anything involving computers was a breeze for me in college, but when it came to college level writing, I had to work hard to pass those classes.

[@someguywithcancer1595]

Organic chemistry is harder than a $2 steak, but it’s also extremely important

[@lilibear62]

How sad! I hope he gets hired at a better school. My daughter is taking organic chemistry and passed with flying colors btw! I remember a show where the parents were complaining about a difficult math class. The teacher said he wouldn't pass anyone who didn't understand the material and he was thankful every day that the engineers that built the bridges that he drove across daily understood math.🤣🤣

[@davidcosta2244]

Too many people no longer want to work for rewards, but still want the same rewards that those get for working hard. That sounds like entertainment to me, just saying.

[@richardhurlock4522]

Equity

[@tcbep4157]

@123 oie either you are a bot or you have parent issues please get help

[@MrSilv55]

@@richardhurlock4522 Stick you Equity up yours idiot.

[@rzu7120]

Those kids are really going to be prepared for the real world. "What do you mean I have to work? I thought I could just show up and get paid."

[@judahlamontagne2749]

The answers are going to be the same no matter who is teaching chemistry.

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

yes but now the students are woke and they know anything goes

[@truthguide1742]

Without failure there can be no success. If you fail and have to repeat a class, it's better the second time because now you know the subject matter twice. Failure is a motivator. For me I was struggling in school especially in high school. I was ditching classes, not going to school at all. Dropped out twice. Only had 80 credits needed 160 to graduate. Three years later I inquired about getting high school diploma. So, I went to adult night school held at my old day high school. Part of my credit make up was in social studies. I had discovered that I had two of my high school teachers were moonlighting at the night school. I just as day school I had them as teachers for night school. Well the 2nd time around with them teaching. I passed their classes with one with an A and the other with a B. One of my teachers Mr. Reeves said to me, "See I knew you could it." A little late, in a slightly different setting. But with the same two high school teachers in the same school. Day school & adult night school. I felt so proud. Happy. The second time has more meaning.

[@jojospeechy4848]

Congratulations!!! Sharing your experience can encourage others to go back to school and try again. Good for you!

[@stanleydavidlepretre4241]

@@jojospeechy4848 Totally agree with everything you typed. 💯

[@TheHalcyonAnon]

Took me two attempts to get through calculus. Three for calc 2. 1 for calc 3 1 for diff eq And then I flat out f'd discrete math three times in three semesters. I only gave up after I had my degree

[@campbell1446]

I took a class twice. The first time, I ended up dropping out. The second time, I did much better because I was familiar with the material. I found out later that a lot of people do the same thing in that subject.

[@jackimhoff6767]

The staff and administration should've supported the teacher and told the kids to study harder

[@theanomalous1401]

Maybe he should don a blonde wig and a ginormous set of fake bewbs and change his pronouns to Hugh and Mungus. Problem solved❗🎯🤔

[@robholmes2129]

I had an instructor in school tell the class on day one the HALF of you will be retaking this class because that was how many on average passed their 1st time taking it,talk about an attention getting statement,so I made sure I was not a 2 timer,and the teacher did not lose his job

[@DBlue92_]

If the professor is unreasonable and deceitful about how they create exams/tests, I could understand the frustration. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. If it really is a lack of effort on students, then it’s on them

[@yankee2666]

Thin-skinned sissies.

[@promethiac2641]

Don't they have a curve?

[@dangreene3895]

My nephew teaches Freshman English at a University . Students had a fit when he graded fairly , he was called in by the head of the Dept and asked if maybe he grading to harshly , long story short , he just started grading all Students at B grade level . Unless the Student puts no effort in at all , then it is a C . He is leaving that University in Jan .

[@stevenriley2998]

It's scary that these kids will probably just be passed through into the medical field.

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

very scary like amputating the wrong leg or arm im asking from now on where did he or she graduate from dont give me no doctor from NYU

[@JB-ym4up]

Getting rid of ap classes hurts the poor smart kids as the classes transfer over as 12 college credits saving a bucket of money.

[@kitsunelee007]

Not to mention that some kid's in regular(that's what it was called back when I was in school)acted out because they were bored out of their minds. These kids weren't stupid, they just weren't getting the mental challenges they needed to be successful.

[@flakathy890]

What are AP classes?

[@milin1553]

Don’t worry, now there’s AP for all. You can enroll in an AP calculus course in high school even with a second grade math skills. How amazing is that!

[@JB-ym4up]

@@flakathy890 classes for highschool kids that allow for college level study and college credits. AP stands for advanced placement. In Oregon AP classes were deemed racist and removed.

[@flakathy890]

@@JB-ym4up Thank you, J B. I can imagine how some people would claim it was racist, but it's ridiculous.

[@sunkissed_grl]

One of my dads all time bests “someone has to graduate at the bottom of every class, I’m assuming that was you”

[@promethiac2641]

We set the bar pretty low.. its easy to make money.. hard to be useful.

[@jaynebrown693]

Oh my goodness… I love your Dad’s comment !!! Brilliant!

[@sunkissed_grl]

@@jaynebrown693 he was the king of knocking ppl off their high hours, all the way down to the pig pin, lol.

[@jaynebrown693]

@@sunkissed_grl Love it !!!! 😂

[@promethiac2641]

@@sunkissed_grl I have the gift of trivializing everyone's lives too.. Even the best of us kind of suck.

[@kristendelaney5196]

Dear Lord... I took my first undergrad o-chem some 30 years ago at a mega-research university, and yes, it sucked. I remember the first exam had a class average of 32/100 with a high score somewhere in the mid 50's. No, I didn't quite make the average. Those were the days when making class average meant a "C"... a lousy score to post for med school. And the hell of it was that after the first exam, the bottom 25% of the class would typically drop, running the class average higher and higher. And for the love of all that is holy, p-chem was even more nuts. But you gotta suck it up, take your lumps, get up, work harder, and go for more. I eventually earned a doctorate in Biochemistry and it was hard... but you gotta want it. More than wanting it... it has to be an obsession. There's always business school (and yes, I also earned an MBA in recent years, which was, comparatively speaking, a cake walk.)

[@stoopidpursun8140]

"How am I supposed to do all this work and studying when I have to spent four hours every night whining on Tik Tok about how nobody takes me seriously?!?!"

[@anonygent]

My sister took differential equations three times and couldn't understand it, so she had to give up on engineering as a major. Sometimes you're just out of your depth.

[@glensouthard2763]

I took organic chemistry back in 1988, and should have aced it, but I got a little lazy after midterms and wound up getting a B+. The class was held right after lunch and I had trouble staying awake. That being said, a professor of his age and level has lots of experience writing tests, so most likely he did not change, but his students did. Also there is probably a body of previous tests available from this professor that could have been used as study guides, and found at the school's library or from other student groups.

[@marygraceviramontez4669]

that would have been work we are not having that at NYU

[@dario2rnr]

Chemistry is probably the hardest subject found in college. For so long math, science, and engineering fields still maintained high scholastic standards, or so we thought. In 1968 I had to struggle mightily to get a B in Calculus first semester.

[@ashlibabbitt1111]

Try music theory. Analyzing a Bach fugue will lay you out on the floor.

[@forthdimension686]

Everyone's secretly on Adderall 🧠

[@mbrez4271]

It's advanced Physics..opinion from a PhD Chemist.

[@gastronomist]

Calculus is dead white male Math and is a tool of the Patriarchy and white supremacy.

[@billynomates920]

@@ashlibabbitt1111 moved on a bit from c.a.b.b.a.g.e did it?

[@jmcham1000]

Welcome to your flight from New York to Alaska today. Your pilot failed his training course but don't worry....he'll do his best so good luck.

[@cheeseburgerinparadise7124]

Wow I remember taking a philosophy class and my professor warning me and everyone in the class that she makes her tests really tough and she does not grade on a curve and she will not allow extra credit. The people who survived the class with good grades did the work.. this is just lazy and disgusting.. but not a really surprising sadly

[@Joreel]

I took a Philosophy class in college and on the first day the professor told us"If you're a Christian then you can drop the class now because I don't have time to debate you on every philosophical idea we discuss in class". I went up to the professor after class and told him that I'm a Christian and I want to be in the class because I'm interested in learning about the philosophers and what they believed at those times in history. I did debate the ideas in my papers a bit, but when the class ended I had an A at the end of the semester. I even thanked the professor at the end and told him I really enjoyed the class. It wasn't an easy class because I didn't agree with a lot of the stuff, but it wasn't my place to argue with him, but to learn something new twice a week. In the end it was a fun class.

[@justiceandhealing4all]

No, its not. The students just know in their intuition that there is something wrong, e.g. those sciences ( chemistry, physics) are fake. No wonder why they cannot heal many diseases. It all starts with Mendeleev's chemical elements table that had Ether on top of it originally which they have taken out and replaced by their fake relativity theory and ever since then there were no real breakthroughs not to mention their DNA model is also a fake Mi6 project that does not exist.

[@thomasclark631]

@@Joreel When I was in undergraduate school I once walked by a classroom in which a philosophy lecture was being given. I heard the professor say, “philosophy is a system of thought, religion is a system of belief”. I never took a philosophy class butI have carried this distinction for 60 years.

[@mikeries8549]

My philosophy prof would let you retake a test until you got it right. I never took him up on it though. It was an easy A

[@lawrencetalbot8346]

O-Chem was always the make or break class for getting into med school, been this way for decades. Everyone is pre-med until they take O-Chem, then only the ones who actually put the effort in last.

[@rwdplz1]

What do you call a Doctor that graduates at the BOTTOM of his class? Doctor.

[@TheFrenchPug]

That is a good one :)

[@WniGrup]

I had a class right after OC in the same room and while waiting for class to start, those kids would come out of that class shook up, and in tears sometimes. It is devastating to see your GPA fall because of one class, but pay attention and put in the work any anything can be done, I graduated college at 55 years old and it was tough, but I still managed to get my B.S. with a final GPA of 3.82.

[@KylosPylon]

Yes America, dumbing down your difficult university classes is a great idea. You're so smart!

[@drozzmojenkins9605]

Organic chemistry was difficult for me and most of the rest of us.

[@MorganSullivan]

Was difficult for everybody... Nightmares!!

[@sergent40]

Same type of thing happened at a call center I worked at in 2000. This guy John was over the "Help Desk" I was working as his assistant. There was about 50 people on the help desk and we took calls that 1st tier techs could not solve, we did this by taking calls from the 1st tier techs. When calls were slow we worked tickets that occurred when the "help desk" was "closed." We did that by calling the customers back, or sending the ticket back to the 1st tier IF it was something easily solved with the correct information and the 1st tier techs would then call the customer back to solve the issue. These guys and gals on the help desk would occasionally slack off and John would get on to them about call times and them talking and goofing off with each other instead of working tickets. About 20 of them complained to the account manager that John was abusive to all of us. Long story but they eventually got John fired for doing his job and being a boss... No I didn't take his place and I ended up quitting a month or so later because of what happened to him and the guy who replaced him was a slacker as well. Basically all the slackers was making it harder on the rest of us who were working... The company ended up shutting down a year or so later due to a bad rep that they were not meeting the needs of the customer.

[@tomcumby9045]

i graduated in 1974. guess all my teachers would be unemployed now because they made it hard to get good grades. sad things r so easy now in school but thats where we get the wokes generation

[@wasntanythingmuch]

Sooo...NYU will no longer be pursuing accreditation, I assume. Coursework increases in difficulty when universities do so.

[@Servants_Heart]

Organic Chemistry is a very hard class. This college professor is a huge gain for another university.

[@One-Crazy-Cat]

When I was in college I had 1 professors. He’s dead now but even then ppl would complain his class was “impossible” it was hard as instead of tests and questions he had you write a 5 page paper every week. What I learned this week. His final was what did I learn in this class. I did an A+ as I loved the class. Looking back I learned more in that one class than any of the multiple choice tests. I still refer back to my essays from him for inspiration. He had no textbook just lectures and labs and 5 pages a week and 10 page midterm and 20 page final. You could reiterate and go back over old stuff on the mid and final so simply pull a bit from each tie it together and boom. Was SOOOOOOO hard for the ppl accustomed to tests out of books with multiple choices or T/F.

[@One-Crazy-Cat]

He wasn’t even overly concerned about formatting and such. It was technology and if he read it and liked it you got an A. Not like some teachers a missed APA comma and boom nah he didn’t care if you missed the format fully if you wrote something meaningful and was correct it was an A. Some wouldn’t turn anything in. He also weighed everything the same so you couldn’t pass without weekly attendance at his custom lectures or listened to the tape.

[@sachmo0196]

Just in: Navy SEAL BUDS Instructors fired. Students say "It's too hard!".

[@jeffreygunn3530]

There is apparently an investigation going on now about just that, but it's because of deaths during the program. Okay, if you're killing people in your class, they might have a point about it being too hard...

[@joeyGalileoHotto]

David Goggins would be his old self if that happened and he wouldn't be the inspirational person he is today

[@michaellusk2856]

The dangerous thing is that NYU fired the professor.

[@ricknick5318]

I hope he sues the s*** out of him

[@ricknick5318]

You get that list of them 82 or 85 people and you make sure you keep an eye on that list and you make sure you don't go to anybody that decided classes too hard do not give them no business and spread the word what they did in college

[@sweetharmonies]

Organic Chem's really hard... I had to take it twice!

[@jeremylst1421]

Nobody is going to hire a person from a school where you get an A for attending.

[@andrewelliott4436]

Accepting students onto a course that they are incapable of finishing is a form of cruelty - because the students will inevitably have to learn this truth the hard way.

[@kateealer7]

Kids keep getting worse. When I was a TA in grad school kids who were probably my age or a little young would complain to me for taking points off their homework for writing in text speak and using semi colons wrong. I eventually sent out a mass email telling them not to even try to use semi colons because not one of them got it correct. Their reasoning that they should get full credit was "but I did the assignment!"

[@jeffreygunn3530]

That's probably not going to be very persuasive to the jury when they get sued after the bridge they designed collapses, or their patient dies because of a bad diagnosis.

[@tonman3169]

I have been fired because my athletes (at the college level) complain about me because I was pushing them to be the best, even though they went to nationals.

[@Paul_Hanson]

When I was taking physics someone complained that the quizzes were too hard. The professor said that the quizzes were hard for a reason, because some day he might have to cross a bridge designed by one of us. That was at the University of Minnesota Twin Cities campus in the late 70's. I lived off campus and commuted. My favorite parking spot was under the I-35 bridge that collapsed in 2007.

[@timothymason6783]

I am a degreed chemist. For every hour spent in lecture, 3 hours of home study is required. Mathematics: when you take calculus if you do not know algebra like the back of your hand you are in the wrong place. I had to retake algebra before I could proceed. Foreign language: you have to be able to write in the language or you are considered illiterate. At the 400-500 level courses you must be able to speak the language to the class for an hour. Your speach (talk) is written and turned in. You are graded immediately. University courses are called such because the concepts are accepted universally. The only junk course was philosophy. Do not bring common sense to this class. :)

[@jakeross5737]

34 days till midterms. GET OUT AND VOTE RED!

[@rondesanctimonious2591]

Red is a threat to democracy! Vote Blue!

[@bwalker4194]

There will soon come a day when a NY or CA diploma will mean an immediate end to the job interview. I hope I live to see it.

[@joisey5896]

Being a teacher in the public school system, I can say definitively that this story is emblematic of today's youth. It boggles the mind how "work averse" today's American youth are. They would rather generate dozens of bogus complaints to the administration than write a 5 paragraph essay. Sadly, school districts treat every allegation as gospel and do NOT have teachers' backs. What results is a public education that is banal and simplistic, devoid of nuance or critical thinking.

[@oogabooga7882]

we don't needs no skool, fool. looting is our trade. we is experts.

[@bh5606]

Shame on NYU.

[@glyniscoleman4813]

I had a biology teacher that told the whole class more than half were going to fail I passed with an A- just made me work harder

[@gerryorourke7122]

god help everyone who goes to a surgeon in a few years

[@pl6035]

And remember these idiots will be taking care of us when we need it...scary

[@JB-ym4up]

When I was a kid it was 65 for a D then it went to 62 then my kids it went to 60 then 55. I dont think my grandkids even get grades because it might hurt their feelings.

[@David_Jones8112]

Greg Gutfeld gets a 69/1.

[@rondesanctimonious2591]

TRUMP4PRISON2022

[@jakeross5737]

@@rondesanctimonious2591 Joe, Hunter and Hillary first.

[@ashlibabbitt1111]

How many D's did you get?

[@Brad2325]

@@rondesanctimonious2591 Stay on topic, nimrod. By the way, Trump isn't going to prison. Deal with it.

[@ladyalaina42]

So Greg on the 5 all you stressed was the professors old age. Now you see it as the outrage it was??? Damm. My daughter is a biologist and took organic chemistry and had to study hard for her good grade! Those kids will never make it in medicine or science.

[@elizabethhouser8753]

This is so indicative of the collapse of our society, heartbreaking

[@kevindeiter8410]

Wow!! 20+ years ago students would have been laughed out of the office for such a claim.

[@clegford]

Everyone used to just buy the tests from the class before. Look at Joe’s college days…

[@jamiepatterson1214]

And when they sit to take their medical boards to become doctors, and don't pass them? Will they go whining to those in charge, complaining about the tests being to hard? School is one thing, but when they actually get out into the real world, there won't be anyone to hear them whine. Because the real world doesn't care if someone finds something hard to do. The whiners will be fired and others will be hired to do the work.

[@ampersandtay]

When he applies to private schools for a job, forget a CV, just send this clip!

[@anthonymaled6796]

If they think school sucks wait till they have to deal with life!

[@deborahwesselman845]

Qustion..What do you call the person will graduate last in their Medical School class? Answer.. Doctor That's scary enough, but eventually graduating students who were able to get the difficulty of class materials lowered? All I can say is stay healthy

[@unsaved013]

Don't worry guys i've got everything under control, i got an A for effort in school.

[@Electriclentilman]

I live in uk 🇬🇧 Can anyone explain why the whole show is not released on KZbin, but in small chunks ? I love this show, but find it frustrating it’s not put out in full .

[@robertthomas5906]

I had a really hard chem teacher in college as well. A lot of students complained about her. The dean said - "That's nice. Study harder." She flunked a lot of students. I had no complaints. She would help you if you asked.

[@janblackman6204]

I got a professor fired one time. Not because he was too hard but because he was unreasonable. My son was very ill. He had kept going to class until he just couldn’t get there and had to call me to come and take him to the dr. The dr was very worried about him. Strep throat infected ears and fluid in his lungs. I even drove him to and from classes but the teacher gave a final while my son was out and announced to the class that my son wouldn’t pass no matter what he made on the test. I went to the dean and the dean interviewed other students in the class and they agreed he had said that. So he was fired.. I think he was very unpopular anyway. My son had to retake the class anyway but his next professer was from India and he was a gifted teacher. Unfortunately that professor was murdered by another professor a few years later. This was at UAH in Huntsville Alabama

[@TheFrenchPug]

That is an unbelievable story! Wow! So sad.

[@lisab.1595]

What happened, they weren't allowed to look up test answers on their hand-held device? Or they were asked to put their name on the test papers and didn't know how to spell it??? Ah yes, the pandemic, everybody's ready excuse for incompetence. Half these students couldn't figure out how to give change of a dollar .

[@lauraf2584]

I had a 2nd year student who haughtily told me that he knew more about a (highly specialized) subject matter than I did, after he got a D on a midterm test. He whined, complained, "threatened" to go to the department chair, and only caught a whiff of reality when I informed him that 90 percent of the class had done better on the test than he did. At least he knew enough basic arithmetic to figure out what that meant.

[@vernitasafford2379]

In my senior year of high school ‘80-‘81…I experienced a similar situation. We had a wonderful American Literature teacher that year! She was teaching us on a level to help prepare us for college. It was awesome to be challenged in such a way; to be taught how to think for yourself instead of being told “what to think”. I enjoyed what and how she was teaching. However, in that class was a bunch of whiners and loafers who, along with their parents, complained to the principal, etc., and the teacher was forced to “dumb down” her course materials. To this day, I truly believe the students were cheated out of one of the greatest learning experiences in their lives due to the laziness of a few and the actions spineless of our school principal. I hope this professor finds a far better position at a school dedicated to seeing future doctors, chemical engineers, etc., are properly educated in their fields of study.

[@w.w.heisenberg8044]

82 students that all received too many participation trophies. I bet NYU even has a safe room for the sensitive soul's.

[@ladyelainefairchild3546]

They excused law students from final exam if too upset over one of the national verdicts. Law students months away from being licensed to represent a client in life-altering situations.

[@swbigfan1]

My mommy told me I can do anything, so if someone says I failed them it's obvious they're just bullying me. Bullying is bad so anyone who says I failed is bad. You better get rid of him before he tells anyone else I failed - because if anyone believes him then they'll be bad too and they'll all have to leave. Do it note or I'll call my mommy and she'll talk to the manager!

[@SR-rd2is]

Reminds me of when I was an undergrad at Drexel, we had a new professor. (Now I understand he wasn't tenured, but I didn't know what that was at the time.) He was fun and interesting and tried really hard. But some of the students failed the first two quizzes. Then in the next class, we found out that he was instantly fired. No questions asked. That was the executive decision of Cecelia Fitzgibbon (later became head of Moore College). Never saw him again. At the time, I was really shocked that that could happen. Looking back, I can see that what Prof. Fitzgibbon did was part of a bigger trend. I always thought that college was supposed to be about growing and learning, but that taught me differently. By the way, everyone got an 'A' in that class.

[@ThePacificNorseWest87]

I’m from Oregon. You don’t have to pass reading or math to graduate high school anymore

[@slowraceultra]

Sad but true.

[@timlang6841]

Who wants to hire a grad from this school?

[@Muck006]

Someone should "fire the university" in return ... for being BAD QUALITY!

[@TheRealJoeMama1]

We are going from trophies for participation to advanced college degrees for attendance. Shocking but not surprising.

[@cjk8083]

Really shows how NYU has such a low standard for their students.

[@davidbalderston2751]

"I would run away from the ball!". The mental picture of Kat as a young girl is hysterical.

[@freddieqmercury5961]

I spoke to a teacher at a community college, who was new to how the game was played. He was going to fail the students, who did not show up and did not open their text books, but a fellow teacher explained that he could not fail them yet, since the college had not bled all the money from the parents yet. This is in Ontario Canada, what a sad society we have morphed into.

[@dalenegroenewald5853]

Oh its unbelievable!!!!!

[@stevensmith909]

This instructor is like any chemistry teacher I had in college. It just how they are.

[@justme.9711]

WARNING!!! Never hire any student from NYU.

[@andrewhanson1270]

"Guttfield!" broke the Neilson record's, all-time high for a late night show (PS: The Eagles "greatest hits" is the all-time greatest selling record btw)

[@brianmouland209]

And blew all the Woke pukes like Colbert and Myers away!