TREK FUEL EX MTB TECH TALK: THEIR BEST MTB EVER?

[@MasterChronometer]

Really nice to see a brand that offers the same features on their carbon and alloy frames.

[@swimmer751]

Note on Stumpjumper Evo S-Works is $11,500 14:44. This one is $10,750. Great review, thanks!

[@swimmer751]

Thank you again for the commentary on flagship bike being 10% more expensive fully assembled, vs buying parts separately during Black Friday sales. Exactly what I did, much appreciated Sir! Saved myself $2k.

[@GuyKesTV]

Haha. Top work. Glad the math worked out 👌🏻

[@brothereldrian9913]

Just saw that the aluminum variants are online in the US. Gosh I'd love the Fuel Ex 8. Looks sooo rad.

[@MBdrummer3288]

One absolutely beautiful machine!

[@TheNationalTrails]

11:20 take note of the external width of the wheel at 38mm. These are "proper" sidewall thickness and there is still a beadlock channel for the tire too. I realize most manufacturers are not using beadlock. But, this application alongside Stan's and Ibis appears to be a solid "tire clamper."

[@Biking_with_Akiva]

Looking forward to the next one

[@smtex9902]

Guy, really appreciate what you do and enjoy your videos. Im 169cm and curreny riding a 2019 Kona Process 153 27.5 Medium with a 450mm Reach and 600mm Top Tube and 35mm stem. This fits me perfectly. Looking at the Trek I can either keep the same reach and go for the Medium (R 453 TT 584) or keep the same Top Tube on the MediumLarge (R473 TT607). Any thoughts on the new geometry principles. Should steeper seat tubes mean more cramped / upright seated position or should they mean a more forward standing position.

[@Drogos79]

looking forward to hearing your thoughts after 1st ride

[@GuyKesTV]

@Drogos79 Video is live now mate 👍🏻

[@ianmangham4570]

Total work of art.👍🙏

[@JPTHRICE]

thats a really sweet bike lad!

[@mtbjunarell1545]

Trek should have improved Remedy. Components and price still need to improve compare to other big brands. Trek is good in marketing but Riders are wiser nowadays. Good luck!

[@GuyKesTV]

Good summary! This is now basically a Remedy category bike with 29in wheels. Value gets better on cheaper bikes I think but it’ll be interesting to see how they sell.

[@Lee-ic2yn]

Slash?

[@br5380]

You keep mentioning the alloy framed bikes, but I can’t see them on sale (in the U.K.).

[@FirstNameLastName-ev3jk]

Just ordered one in-store at a Trek dealer in the UK. They can see more stock and import delivery times data on their system than the public can.

[@Lee-ic2yn]

Yeah all I've seen is the fuel exe in England

[@eldanno5970]

Hate the medium large treks, all the specs say I should be on one but comfort says otherwise.

[@yamahschector]

Same I am on the low end of the medium large and it’s huge. No small in the shop to try out

[@smtex9902]

Interesting. The sizing onnTreks webdite says i shoukd be on a medium, but that felt way to crsmped. Intetesting thevlocal retail site says i can go M or ML at 169cm tall..

[@eldanno5970]

@@smtex9902 the new 2023 fuels have longer reach than previous, Im 178cm and the large is perfect, most comfortable bike I’ve owned. I recently purchased a large roscoe and had to add a longer stem to get to the same reach as the fuel so I’m clearly a large despite what treks previous sizing suggest.

[@stuartwilkes4434]

Guy, a quick question about seat tube angle and seating position. I remember years ago when every bike had a 73°seat tube you could roughly set your seating position by dropping a string line through the pedal axle from under your knee when placed in the horizontal forward position. I'm hearing that some people still try this on the new modern, steeper seat tube Mtb's and it seems wrong. Any thoughts. Great review🎊

[@GuyKesTV]

Do you know, I’ve not done that test in ages. I’ll get it off the wall and check next time I’m in the workshop and report back.

[@povteer]

i thought it was a GT Force 😅

[@GuyKesTV]

Except you could probably buy 3 Forces for this price 🤣

[@yousafkhanbikes]

if its the best ever gimme a free one!

[@TheJjyoung333]

Playing catchup to specialized stumpumper evo. Give me the evo without the pressed in headset cup.

[@vwr32jeep]

I think if you look at the market share, Trek isn’t playing catch-up to anyone.

[@TheJjyoung333]

@@vwr32jeep If you look at this model and comparable models, they are playing catch up. They are expensive and less travel. One would think with high market share mass market brand, they would be cheaper.

[@vwr32jeep]

@@TheJjyoung333 They aren’t as expensive as the Stumpjumper tho. Trek could definitely add the same higher end components as Specialized, but I think they’ve struck a balance that has earned them the lions share of the market. No?

[@vwr32jeep]

@@TheJjyoung333 And because of that market share, they have a lot more money to devote to research and development. But it’s a bit like Apple… they don’t play all their cards until they have to. That’s the frustrating part of business. It’s not really “catching up”, it’s just time to float the next upgrade. And this one will likely get me into the store. I’d be quite happy with a Stumpjumper, it’s arguably a “better” bike even if that measure is razor thin at this point. But there’s a Trek store at the end of my street, and another 6 miles away.. etc.. Convenience and availability plays a big part in it too.

[@Stockfish1511]

Specialized bikes are ugly as fuck and have some of the blandest colors. Trek all day and they are not playing catch up to anyone. Their bikes are sold out everywhere

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Wow, its basically an Enduro

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Technically its exactly between an XC and an Enduro. XC is 120/120 or 120/130 while an Enduro is 160/170. This bike is 140/150. Exactly what you want in an all mountain trail bike that can go up and down good.

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

Looks like a Niner.

[@leefitler4597]

Definitely. I also rather have the niner.

[@Mike-up6go]

Heavier than a boat anchor.

[@Montblanc1986]

What the hell are they still putting a 30T chainring on the bikes for? 34T minimum please. It costs $200 to get a new ring and chain these days

[@GuyKesTV]

I totally agree from a personal point of view Kazak, but both bikes are getting heavier and so are the riders. They don't seem to be getting fitter or stronger though so even when the 10-52T block arrived very few brands upsized their rings.

[@soliranje]

Well, there is a lot of riders who ride long distances with really long steep climbs where 34T chainring is a little big. For us who do 80-130km per day on our trail bikes, 30T is great, especially when 25-30km uphill is in front of you.

[@tdub25]

@@soliranje if you ride 100km a day…. I sure as hell hope your fit/strong enough to push a 34 tooth ring, esp with a 52 tooth ring out back…

[@br5380]

What are you riding that benefits from a bigger front ring, fire roads?

[@Lee-ic2yn]

@@tdub25 I agree The 52t is just too easy

[@sirsolver654]

Another "Rockrider" bike. What an horrendous design. Fuelex frame rules since years. No need to change shape, but this buy-waste-buy tendency ruins all where It goes...