Gymnastics Scandals & Controversies | Banned Substances

[@siona8662]

when you realize many of these situations could have been avoided altogether if there was not as much pressure put on gymnasts to lose weight and have the perfect body and if body shaming wasn't so prevalent in the sport

[@rg1whiteywins598]

Yes, and when you starve to be thin, you have a hard time to keep weight down when you go back to eating enough. Happened to me as a gymnast.

[@oscard9643]

it is not about body shaming, it is about performance. Stop this body shaming nonsense. If you wanna be good in this, you must keep a right weight. So stop it. If you are a land whale, you can't be a gymnast.

[@siona8662]

@@oscard9643 dude with the amount of exercise gymnasts do, it is impossible to gain an unhealthy amount of weight! what would actually improve their performance is working with a dietician to make sure all their nutritional needs are being met, so they fuel their bodies properly

[@oscard9643]

@@siona8662 bitch, please. (next time, don't ca;ll me 'dude' again)

[@ashimochi]

Getting rid of some fat in sports that involve flexibility is often necessary though. Contortion is way harder with fat on the way. A gymnast or dancer that actually pursues professionalism knows more clearly than anyone that starving will only hinder performance, that's why surgery to get rid of localized fat is a reasonable thing to do. It's not about just being thin and bodyshaming -a ballerina that struggles with localized fat

[@JennaLeigh]

That gold belongs to Andreea. Absolutely no disrespect to Simona Amanar, who is incredible in her own right, but Andreea earned that gold medal.

[@Lorvina1]

@@lila2986 yes, there's a vault skill named after her

[@JennaLeigh]

@@lila2986 yes! She originated the Amanar vault!

[@jfm14]

I was shocked to find out even small amounts of pseudoephedrine are banned... how ridiculous that athletes have to be wary of even cold pills. Răducan's medal should be reinstated. 🥇

[@bagelized]

Raducan’s case is so wrong. So wrong.

[@StrmgrXL]

@@ddpg9976 that doesn’t even make sense seeing how Raducan’s AA was the only one taken away.

[@jojox9791]

@@ddpg9976 oh please!

[@jojox9791]

Absolutely 💯 wrong. When she was found to have "no wrongdoing" and not given any sanctions or consequences she should have immediately been handed HER gold medal

[@jojox9791]

@@ddpg9976 okay "from what you heard"? Its wrong! Living through it yourself and "hearing something" are so very different. Believe it or not, Russia was pushing for the 2 per rule first and then other nations jumped on it as yes, what you did get right is Romania was sweeping everything. No one gave her the wrong meds on purpose. Simona Amanar had the exact same amount in her system, but body height and weight, and obviously metabolism played into it and she was fine. Sadly Andreea was not. There was no big conspiracy. It was a mistake by the coach who gave them the medication. I said it above and saying again, the minute she was found to have done no wrongdoing she should have been given that medal IMMEDIATELY. Its hers and her teammates offered to give her the medal or share it. No use when it doesn't have her name in the books. I STILL HOLD OUT HOPE SHE WILL GET HER MEDAL REINSTATED AND HANDED TO HER, WITH AN APOLOGY BY ALL WHO REFUSED TO GIVE IT TO THR RIGHTFUL OWNER

[@jojox9791]

@@ddpg9976 always blaming America 🇺🇸 🙄

[@MrTheefreitas]

furosemide is commonly used in Brazil when you take corticosteroids, I feel really sorry for Daiane she's brazil most famous gymnast to this day.

[@lohaye3260]

Yeah, she's a legend til today ☺️

[@timothywilliams9642]

​@Lo Haye Unless Rebeca Andrade, the current world All Around champion, surpasses her.

[@josephlim6854]

Awesome video! I remember the Raducan controversy. I know they haven't reinstated the gold medal to her but am glad she was able to experience receiving the gold medal and seeing all 3 Romanian flags along with the Romanian national anthem played during the medal ceremony.

[@cassie05]

None of these are performance enhancing drugs. It’s mental.

[@matthewimmortal11]

No they are not, but they increase urin excretion aka enhancing drugs with it.

[@Constantin9va]

Raducan and psudophed are so intertwined in my brain that once I asked for “Raducan” instead at the cvs...

[@Squarehammer1]

Raducan is the real Olympic All Around Champion!!!!!! Come on FIG.

[@TheMajesticice01]

No she’s not! Blame that doctor! Rules are rules! Sydney was the worst Olympics ever! Svetlana Khorkina that was hers

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

@@TheMajesticice01 she fell. Andreea gave the performance of her life. She deserved the medal, she earned it. The rule was stupid. Amanar took the same medicine but passed the test because she had more weight, and she got Andreea's gold

[@rebeccaspellmeyer5761]

I think the only reason they are not going to give it back is because the podium was all one country. After that they added the 2 per country rule.

[@angeliastone-tolcher2386]

That medal will always be Andreea’s

[@natashaharris4750]

I believe Amanar gave it to her. When they got home.

[@lievekseen2320]

@@natashaharris4750 she did ❤️ poor Andreaa tho 😔

[@nicholaskosarikovrecruitment]

Amanar gave Andreea the medal later...

[@missmoxie9188]

YES!!!!!!

[@laurenlueth]

no she was using drugs to get ahead

[@meghanherrighty4273]

I am so confused by the Raducan situation because psudophed is a cold medicine used for decongestion, not performance enhancement.

[@ilovesteveclark6084]

Pseudoephedrine is a stimulant drug. It is in the same class of drugs as stimulants like amphetamines and phenethylamines. When used at lower dosages, it acts as a decongestant. It is a highly abusive drug because it's stimulant properties are released when you take higher doses, which increases and enhances both mental and physical functioning. It is also used as a precursor in the manufacturing of methamphetamines. It's history of abuse has caused the FDA to change it from an over the counter drug to a controlled behind the counter drug.

[@liviadeswert5774]

They took it off the banned substances

[@shannonrosewiley]

pseudoephedrine is a decongestant use in cold and allergy medications to relieve stuffy or blocked nose, making it easier to breathe through your nose. I feel if it prescribe by a doctor for athletes that has year long allergies it should be allow.

[@timothywilliams9642]

​@@liviadeswert5774 They put it back on the banned list in 2010.

[@kgoulding1237]

Thank you for making this, I knew Daiane dos Santos received a drug ban in 2009 but I couldn't find out the details about- it seems like she made a mistake and not trying to get an advantage.

[@anthonyemanoel6202]

Yes..

[@SparklesNJazz]

bruh i’ve take sudafed a lot and it’s never made my uncoordinated unathletic ass perform any better lol. that’s literally so dumb it’s a DECONGESTANT

[@amyg9518]

It's completely maddening that they think taking a decongestant was unfair, but expecting her to perform at a disadvantage with stuffed sinuses was totally fair? It's not like she took speed, y'all.

[@melodyjones5305]

Bless her heart,they really and truly need to reinstate this young lady's gold medal she absolutely earned it!!Do the right thing it has been far to long.The other girl they gave her medal to should of been happy to have given it up on the spot because she knew in her heart she didn't earn it an the all the rest should 've followed suit.That would be a message for the federation and the rest of those who were responsible for taking her medal.Bless her heart I really hope they will give her medal back soon.

[@olgaszoke9241]

Raducan's case was an absurd, those who did this with her should be punished seriously

[@jellocat4100]

Raducan deserves her gold back!!

[@grahamstrouse1165]

Respect to Simone for standing up for her teammate & friend!

[@trendymaths2467]

Oh snap this is a good video idea. 🤪 You’re working hard!

[@mikelara2151]

That’s horrible. The IOC needs to reinstate her gold medal.

[@vv7299]

Simone Biles has an exemption that permits her to take Ritalin, a proper stimulant that absolutely improves stamina and concentration, yet Raducan is stripped of a gold medal for traces amounts of a substance that, as printed on the label of drugs that contain it, can make you dizzy (so don't take it when you operate heavy machinery, compete in the Olympics etc)

[@zorakj]

Yes, but she takes it for a condition that means her stamina and concentration start at a lower point than normal. The meds just bring her up to normal. Raducan got cheated, though. You’re right about that.

[@shelley2he844]

@@zorakj there is no clear way of proving it though. Chemicals in the brain cannot be measured. So an assumption is being made and she's taking stimulants. I'm really shocked, I only just found out about this and I will never feel the same way about Biles again. I even have a mental health condition myself, but banned substances are banned substances and have no place in sports. In shocked she's getting away with this.

[@shelley2he844]

Wow I'm absolutely shocked. Now we see why Biles is so good. She has an unfair advantage. Appalling.

[@orchdork775]

@@shelley2he844 She stopped taking the medicine many years ago. She has proven that she is just as capable with or without it.

[@orchdork775]

@@shelley2he844 Also, for someone who apparently suffers from mental illness, how can you suggest that a gymnast shouldn't be allowed to receive medication for a mental health disorder that will negatively affect their ability to preform while competing?? A doctor specifically diagnosed that medication to help combat the difficult symptoms she was facing that negatively impacted her life, and that other gymnasts didn't have to deal with. The whole point is that she doesn't receive an unfair advantage from taking her prescribed medication, because she has a disorder that causes her extra difficulty compared to other gymnasts/people, therefore the medication doesn't give her an unfair advantage, but instead just brings her up to the same level as everyone else. The fact that you think Simone received an unfair advantage for taking prescribed stimulant medication for her adhd shows that you don't understand how severely adhd can impact a person's ability to live their life and do the same things as everyone else. Adhd isn't just having a hard time paying attention or being really hyper or something, it's a complex disorder that alters brain function in the prefrontal cortex, which affects every aspect of a person's life. The prefrontal cortex is responsible for so, so much, and if yours isn't functioning correctly, then sometimes stimulant medication is the only thing that will allow you to overcome the symptoms enough to be able to keep a job and take care of yourself, much less to live a fulfilling life. Not that it matters, but Simone was on a low dose of the stimulant medication, and like I mentioned before, she got off of it 4+ years ago if I'm remembering correctly. Thankfully, she was able to find other ways to manage the symptoms, but had she not been able to get off the medication, then her success would still be just as valid.

[@SteWweAwesome99]

Many brazilian athletes were on furosemide during that time, I remember also some swimmers like Cesar Cielo tested positive for it, I know it's not really a strong ped like other substances but it's a diuretic(acts as a masking agent) so you can't blame anyone for getting suspended but your coaches/team doctors.

[@tonyaferrii33]

Andreaa was robbed! Give her medal back!!

[@melodyjones5305]

Give her what is rightfully hers her medal.GUVE IT BACK!!

[@PaulDanielGolban]

A bit of misinformation: Pseudoephedrine is banned ONLY IN A HIGH DOSE. And that is why Raducan got stripped of her gold medal... It is actually not banned in a low dose. But due to the fact that she was short, the pill made it that the dose of PSE was too high. A teammate of hers got the same pill a day prior and nothing was out of order. And if you watch her interviews, she said that she was announced that she failed the test, but the committee failed to say for what. That is why she did poorly in the competition in the next days. At least that is her own interpretation of what happened.

[@christenawalker2944]

This would be a logical treatment for swelling and inflammation around a knee injury!

[@kwong7058]

Nice video. Was expecting the controversy about steroid usage amongst East German gymnasts to be included as well.

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

Thank you. I will be making more videos. I didn’t know about that case, I’ll do research

[@StrmgrXL]

I thought it was mainly their swimming team that used Steroids and was later caught?

[@kwong7058]

@@gymnasticsmasterclass www.zeit.de/zustimmung?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fsport%2F2018-03%2Fdoping-ddr-sport-dopingopfer-kinder-folgen-hilfe-english

[@kwong7058]

@@StrmgrXL it was a wide-spread, state-sponsered program which affected athletes of all programs, especially the track and field, swimming and any sports that east German officials that they think they have a chance of medals. The young gymnast weren't spared either, not as prominent as their stories were not as widely covered by the media.

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

@@kwong7058 Thank you so much!

[@rg1whiteywins598]

What about female athletes who have very severe premenstrual bloat? They have a disadvantage without some help.

[@rg1whiteywins598]

@joyce yes, probably for those who are cheats. Raw pineapple juice gets rid of bloat, but how do you get it when you're at a competition. I had the bloat when I was in my 40s and nothing helped.

[@ilovesteveclark6084]

Fluffy Flower Furosemide is a very strong diuretic. It forces the cells to release excess fluid and sodium. It is intended for people with diseases that affect the heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, brain, etc....people who will die if they have too much excess fluid! NOT gymnasts who are bloated! Haha!

[@moisesduarte2926]

it's so crazy to think that a medication i take whenever my allergies go wild (tylenol sinus+headache, which has a much stronger dose of pse in brazil) would strip a legendary gymnast of their gold medal. such a small deed for such a big punishment.

[@lexis4490]

I really wonder how much does some of these drugs actually enhance.

[@olgaszoke9241]

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[@ohhnobb]

Olympics worthy sports are brutal, especially figure skating and gymnastics

[@dmontes133]

This day and age, there is no excuse for not knowing what substances are banned. You have to be extremely careful, but if you use it, no sympathy here. Plenty of other athletes don’t do this.

[@darkcznrurdy4me810]

Furosemide is a diuretic not a steroid or stimulate, im also surprised that it would show as its difficult to test specifically for.. 🤔 I worked in med labs for 9yrs. Punishment should fit the crime.. There are alot more serious performance enhancement drugs out there that are seriously more dangerous, also isnt fair for the athletes that have ligitimitly worked hard for and deserve.

[@Scent_Library]

The story of Daiane should never had happened! A 5 month ban for what? Using a legitimate medication after surgery while she was recovering and during the off season. What a load of horseshit.

[@Thomasnmi]

They know what the rules are and have agreed to follow them

[@davidbasa9985]

Do y’all remember in that gymnastics show make it or break it where that girl tried to put banned substances in everyone’s protein shakes so she would be the only one allowed to compete at Olympic trials. I Stan that girl

[@juliusbernotas]

Some people say there is no professional athlete that doesn't use doping of some sort. I wouldn't be surprised if that is true for gymnastics as well. It has happened multiple times in every country and every sport, and i see no reason why gymnastics would be an exeption. The world is a corrupt place.

[@trishayamada807]

Don’t take medications until you know if they are legal or illegal in your sport. I know what drugs my horses can and can’t use.

[@jorgesteingruber661]

At this point, the excuse of "my coach/physician gave it to me, and I didn't know what was in it" is no longer valid. In 2000, WADA was only a year old and anti-doping wasn't taken seriously, so I'm completely willing to give benefit of the doubt to athletes like Andreea Raducan. But it's 2020, and we still have top-level, world-famous athletes like Maria Sharapova claiming they didn't realize the medications they were taking were banned. If they didn't know they were consuming illegal substances, their ignorance is just as bad as intentionally consuming those substances.

[@trishayamada807]

@@jorgesteingruber661 agreed. All the info is available online. I feel bad for the non adult participants, but they too should be schooled on the rules of their sport. And if it was given to them by a coach, the coach should be penalized as well.

[@kingoftheromans572]

Heyyy you ride horses??

[@gymstyle5091]

@@jorgesteingruber661 Andreea was a kid but the doctor knew and so did Belu. They tried to heat and were busted for it

[@amethyst2823]

@@gymstyle5091 Absolutely wrong. FIG recognized that the cough medicine didn't give Raducanu any competitive advantage (it actually made her dizzy), yet they still didn't give back her medal. The amount by which she exceeded the allowed amount was absolutely insignificant. According to the Romanian's team doctor is because she metabolized the medicine less well than expected. He was not an idiot, he calculated the dose according to her weight. He speculated that Andrea didn't drink enough water, might have been dehydrated, which made for a higher concentration of the substance in her urine.

[@morrissuy]

As I understood Simona Amanar did not accept the Gold won by Andrea Raducan, her teammate.

[@serenalizinnqui8474]

That is sweet of her.

[@PaulDanielGolban]

Not at first, but she eventually did.

[@morrissuy]

@@PaulDanielGolban Out of solidarity for their teammate, both Amânar and Olaru initially declined their new medals. They eventually conceded, but only so the medals would be brought back to the Romanian Olympic Committee. Amânar even said that the gold medal belonged to Răducan and not her

[@kazimirawolf]

6:35 so they literally banned her over nothing

[@ragansmithgymnastics7782]

Anyone who comments accusing Simone Biles of taking "illegal substances" for her ADHD probably has something better to do than write salty comments on KZbin.

[@StrmgrXL]

@rene ruiz how. Explain?

[@gymstyle5091]

Alyssa Beckerman wasn't allowed to use her ADHD medication but Simone is. That isn't fair.

[@eb7446]

@@gymstyle5091 That's definitely unfair, but they both competed at totally different times with differing people involved. Are certain ADHD medications banned? Were Alyssa's meds banned at the time? They may have taken a more sympathetic approach to ADHD meds in the 2010's than they did in 2000's. I do think there's probably grey area here, as I don't imagine it would be that difficult for a lot of people to recieve an ADHD diagnosis if they were an elite athlete.... I am not suggesting this is the case for Simone, as I am sure it is not - for all I know she received her diagnosis very young. Meds like adderall certainly can keep you going longer, but if you do not need the pill it will cause you to crash and have negative side effects. I am not sure such medications would really improve performance, but at the same time you can see why its status as a stimulant would raise eyebrows by some. Russia surely does have a serious doping problem, but I always thought the meldonium controversy was a bit overblown. So I can see why a Russian gymnast who once took some weird old soviet heart medication that may not have any performance enhancing properties, would look sideways at a gymnast being allowed stimulants. I am not saying it's wrong for athletes with ADHD to take such meds, I just see how from another's perpective that could see a bit of a double standard.

[@jojox9791]

Most of those making those comments have no idea how many gymnasts from "many" nations are being treated for ADHD, and do not understand the treatment meds SLOW them down not speed them up. Its common sense!

[@gymstyle5091]

@@eb7446 ADHD medicine helps you concentrate. It helps Simone in ways you can't imagine. It would help every gymnast ( depending on the dosage

[@cynot71]

Andreea Raducan: can I have my Gold Medal back? International Olympic Committee: we're still waiting for the check.

[@Lucy-fn9rj]

I hate that weight loss drugs are banned. Not because I think they're healthy, but because it implies that being skinny makes you a better athlete, and the pressure to be thin has pushed far too many gymnasts (and other athletes) out of the sport

[@livinglife1874]

So sad.

[@whatareyoudoingoverthere1425]

I love this channel

[@francisnguyen6349]

Very nice uploading video.

[@SRMkay]

Unbelievable that a gymnast could lose a medal, much less an OLYMPIC medal, for taking Sudafed.

[@MW53516]

I’m just glad that gymnastics is evolving to now favor girls who are more muscular and strong instead of wafer thin and underfed.

[@karenam128]

Great Nice video👍👏

[@mht4908]

Does the anti-doping system take into consideration how much of the substance is detected? Or does it just detect the presence of it? I feel like athletes shouldn't be found guilty unless the banned substance exceeded a certain amount that it was able to have significant effects on the athlete's body. I remember seeing Australian swimmer Shayna Jack's case where she accidentally ingested a banned substance, she was banned for 2 years even though it was later proven that the amount was so minute that it had zero effect on her body. If the system only checks for even a minute presence of banned substances, athletes being careful of what they consume is not enough, they have to hope that there are absolutely no cross contamination, which is out of their control

[@candicer7325]

Meanwhile biles takes advantageous medication....

[@rg1whiteywins598]

Here's the deal. If your body can't get to a certain place on its own, it's not meant to be there. There are natural things that remove bloat during monthly cycle. No need for blood pressure drugs.

[@courtneypuzzo2502]

it depends on height and weight to muscle ratio Raducan is 4 Ft 10.5 in while Simona Amanar was 1.58m or 5 Ft 2.20 in also the later competed in 2 Olympics Atlanta 1996 and Sydney 2000 also min age to compete in Atlanta was 14 while for Sydney and all Olympics after it was 16 Amânar was 17 years 10 mos. in Atlanta and 20 years 10 mos. in Sydney she and Dominique Moceanu share a birthday Sept 30 1979 and 1981 respectively Andrea weighed 37.2 Kilos or 82 LBs in her Olympics while Amânar weighed 97 LBs at her 2nd Olympic Games and was 4 in taller where as if you compare them to America's sweetheart of Gymnastics of that generation Shannon Miller 4ft 8 in and 32.7 Kilos or 72 LBs in Barcelona 1992 and grew 5 in and 20 LBs between Olympics but obviously American Gymnasts in general are taller heavier etc. than Eastern European ones even of similar height in most cases its the same for Figure Skaters for ex Nancy Kerrigan was 1.625m or 5 Ft 4 in and 52.154200 kilos or 115 LBs and won 2 medals Bronze in Albertville France 1992 and Silver at Lillehammer Norway in 1994 she was the oldest woman to medal in the event aged 24 years 4 mos. in 1994 while the youngest was Chen Lu of China 16 years 3 Mos. born Nov 24th 1976. also tricks have gotten more complex over the years as the equipment has gotten better Gymnasts 30 years ago couldn't have dreamed of doing a Yurchenko double pike vault off the old Vaulting horse or a triple twisting double back tuck on Floor both moves named after Simone Biles as she was the first to land them in international competition

[@letsdothis3332]

Note to all gymnasts: dont consume anything if you havent researched it.

[@rg1whiteywins598]

Strong diuretics can cause dehydration and kidney stones.

[@michaelricardodasilvamayco7665]

Tei legendado ??

[@marcushibdon2415]

The wada is TOTALY awasted mess thay lye on thare lab tests all the time .

[@J-B-P]

Why is this at .75 speed

[@wsidechris]

#FreeAndreea !

[@haleyishuman]

Well theres a new one for you to report on..

[@raulvega4016]

How hypocrite for the federation to give free pass for estimulant drugs like METHYLPHENIDATE, wich Simon Biles was taking without announcing it, it gives a clear advange for this stressing and concentration demading discipline. Legal drugs? bollocks!!

[@WAGgymSuperFan]

Lmao adhd meds aren’t enhancers. I took the same shit before I started gymnastics and while I competed.

[@soaringgymnastics6312]

It's not giving her an advantage its leveling the playing field.

[@BuckleBunny]

When you have ADHD, this drug slows your brain down. It definitely has nothing to do with balancing and muscles. You act like she was playing chess. Coffee has the same damn affect on a lower scale. You must watch Fox News.

[@irismendoza]

ICARO🥇 ......

[@brisafranca8067]

2000 olympics were DISGUSTING

[@robinlmorgan1]

You're right. At least 3 equipment fails, athletes complained about the floor being too hard causing many to bounce out of bounds and out of control. At one point the handle on the pommel even came right off. Not to mention the vaultiing debacle. I imagine that was the reason we have the table now instead of the horse.

[@jesuscruz7231]

Simón compitió dopada en Río 2016

[@letty1047]

Que por hiperactiva, dicen. Una vez más la corrupción está en todos lados.

[@diearic]

rarisimo que siempre les pasa estas cosas a los de europa del este, los norteamericanos siempre salen bien limpios o ni siquiera les deben hacer los doping

[@sarahkavanagh7355]

Can we talk about Simone Biles and her pills? Now I'm not saying that her world class unbeatable skills are down to prescription amphetamines (Ritalin), I'm just saying that the first occasion where she has to stop using them - because the drug is banned in Japan, she quits the competition. Now if weed is banned as it has PED effects, then stimulant pills like Ritalin and Adderall definitely match that description!

[@jenn4593]

We do not need those titles before you introduce each of the girl’s stories.

[@damnhandles]

Saying Dos Santos is the most successful Brazilian gymnast of all time isn't saying much. What other successful Brazilian gymnasts are there?

[@zeliaa.3471]

Jade Barbosa and Daniele Hipólito.

[@marcosl4374]

Jade Barbosa, bronze AA and Daniele Hypolito, silver FX at worlds. Now Rebeca Andrade is Olympic champion.

[@timothywilliams9642]

Amd now Rebeca Andrade, the current All Around World champion.