Gyrocopter air accident review & NTSB reports N477AG/N8445P/N498AG

[@jeyapaulsamathanam7057]

I have loved gyros from the sixties, but looking at the way they crash, I don't regret ever learning to fly one.

[@OnerousEthic]

I think you intended to say “not learning to fly one”, no?

[@Twigglesnix]

thank you for the good work you do.

[@JoeSmith-zg7in]

I know a guy who had one go out of control and he jumped out at 350 feet up and he hit a swamp and his legs went up into his rib cage and he crawled to help dragging himself with his 1 good arm.

[@coeu8967]

At my first time in gyrocopter the pilot instroctor show how is a normol take off or normal londing, but what I seen here they didn't know minimu about gyrocopter

[@oscarluna4219]

I do not know pretty much about gyros but several of those accidents were caused by pre rotation not enough to get the right rotor speed

[@sony5244]

Thanks for this video, it's an eye opener. Gyros are a challenge to fly.

[@daleyoung87]

Nah. Takeoff and landing require finesse. They fly fine as long as ya know their limitations and mannerisms.

[@gyroplanetraining]

These are pilot error. All very easy to explain. Lack of training is apparent. These machines are very safe to fly. Show offs and bold pilots are part of it.

[@gyroplanetraining]

Gyroplane takeoff distance on takeoff will double on a grass runway.

[@Handleyman]

I agree.

[@dirkhoekstra727]

Flying with absolutely no proper training or any knowledge of gyrocopter.... An then people say gyrocopter are unsafe... Bullshit. These are amazing aircraft, but their are golden rules that can't be broken. Well planned takeoff and landing checklists need to be in place an well executed.

[@ThePinkPanth3r]

Alot of these videos look like bad flying

[@SK-tr9ii]

@@ThePinkPanth3r I agree. I am a fixed wing pilot and have flown gyros. If a fixed wing pilot tried to take off with the same flight attitude as these gyro guys are doing they would crash also.

[@bobsullivan5714]

@@SK-tr9ii Fixed wing Gyro Get it?

[@gamingvoyager9540]

Yeah take the wheels off and add like a Hoover craft float on the bottom they can take off on water alot safter

[@ДмитрийКулясов-н2к]

Показаны случаи, в которых пилоты допускают грубые ошибки в управлении автожиром. Неосторожность и неопытность зачастую приводят к трагедиям.

[@rbnhood39]

I think that rotor management is one of the most important aspects of flying gyroplanes, or it would be for me.

[@RodCrosby]

It depends. When "flying" [in the air] the rotors are supposed to look after themselves, but... you don't stop "flying" [on the ground] until the rotors are stopped !

[@abidfarooqui-sla3301]

I disagree. There are many other areas and rotor management is one of them

[@robinknight8012]

Neminem Laedit . I was really referring to take offs and landing where rotor management is critical. I’ve seen numerous videos of crashes on takeoff. Obviously when in the air the rotors are loaded and fine.

[@robinknight8012]

Abid Farooqui , that’s why I said “one of the most important”. I’ve seen videos of many accidents happen on takeoff. That is what I was referring to. But thanks for the observation. I hope I can afford a gyro plane one day.

[@crawford323]

On the last image with the Texas accident, I want to point out where the mast bent and the possible spinning rotor head ended up. What I have been told is the passenger was not injured but the pilot was. Was the injury from the mast having the rotor head strike the pilot? I don’t know. The designers, perhaps should consider looking more into changes in mast construction or even roll bars added. This one had to have hit like a slow moving yard dart judging by the impact vectors as indicated by the photo.

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Not sure I think he broke a hand although possibly not from the rotor - it’s very difficult to design effectively a failure mode into a mast for what are really events were the rotors are likely secondary in terms of issue.

[@paulmurphy5244]

Do these things actually fly WITHOUT crashing???

[@daleyoung87]

You are only seeing the ones that crashed. Pusher-type gyros have been flying early and successfully since the early 50s. The pusher-type configuration and engine was explained to Igor Bensen by my father in 1952 ( I believe). Igor had one flying a couple mths later.

[@rotorshawn]

Good information

[@virginiahansen320]

This is an awesome topic to cover! There's tons we can learn by seeing what got others into trouble!

[@chrismckeowncp2078]

Kokppoo

[@jimz508]

I've recently become interested in Gyros, are they less safe than fixed wings? Are they easier to fly?

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Hi I think it’s possibly easiest to categorise relative safety as this. An aeroplane is safest because it is able to fly by virtue of a structure (the wing) a gyroplane should be next as whilst it is able to fly via the rotor mechanism it is a relatively simple mechanism. The helicopter is least safest as its mechanism is more complex. That is of course all else being equal which it rarely is. A gyroplane is as easy to fly as a fixed wing and in many ways the technique in some areas are the same. The management of the rotors is the unique area of gyroplane flight.

[@Trevor_Austin]

jim z - Less safe and easier to fly? First of all I’m a retired fixed wing pilot but I can speak a little on safety. How safe should be easy question to answer. The difficulty comes from what you regard as safety. I think of safety as the likelihood of something unpleasant happening on any given flight. Safety statistics though are normally measured in flight hours, not on a per flight basis. I know of many long haul pilots I would not want to be flown by but their “safety” stats would be exemplary. They will even tell you “when you have as many hours as me” stories. Yet they only fly once or twice a week where as I used to do four or five flights a day. Gyrocraft statistics are hopelessly skewed by small populations and correspondingly few hours. The flights will often tend to be shorter (round the world trips excluded). So as there are very few gyrocraft by comparison with fixed wing aircraft so any accidents or incidents will dramatically affect their safety statistics. So any numbers comparison will be pointless. So I will stick my neck out and say that a properly maintained gyroplane flown by a well trained, current pilot will be slightly safer than your average fixed wing aircraft flown by an average PPL. This is because the aircraft is simpler (systems and construction) and its method of generating lift. It also has a smaller operating envelope which means that the “picture” rarely changes and the operating variables are reduced making its operation simpler. Are they easier to fly? I haven’t got a clue. But less systems and controls mean less distractions so more effort can be input by the instructor on handling. I would also hope that more time is be spent exploring the edge of the aircraft’s operating envelope. Knowing you are approaching an aircraft’s limits is extremely valuable as are the recovery techniques to return you the centre of the handling envelope. Regarding gadgets and electronic paraphernalia, these are devices designed by the devil to lead the unsuspecting into places they would prefer not to be. Fewer is generally better. Once you have learnt to fly with the minimum of electronic “support” your flying will be more fluid, more confident and considerably more fun which hopefully is why you are flying an autogyro in the first place. ps. No disrespect to fixed wing pilots but spending £200 flying from one run down airfield to another to buy a cup of tea and biscuit is not that much fun. But pootling about in a Cub or Moth or ripping the wings of a Pitts however is great fun (Been there, seen it, bugs in the teeth to prove it). Probably a bit like flying an autogyro.

[@RodCrosby]

some balanced viewpoints here [from 2004, prior to the factory-built Eurotubs, but still a good analysis] www.kitplanes.com/gyroplane-safety/ I would also say it depends on where, what and when you are flying a gyro.... At the high statistics level, the factory-built machines are about an order of magnitude safer than the home-built. Then we have to consider regulatory, environmental and even cultural influences. Some countries seem to be inherently safer than others. UK, Germany, Italy have relatively-good gyro safety records. France, Spain, South Africa and Australia not so good.... The US has a different gyro culture, with only recent penetration of the" factory-built" [complicated by the 51% rule], so I would say the jury is still out there. Then, as training and accident analysis have developed and improved, the accident trend is slowly but steadily declining globally. So, in the right place at the right time with the right machine, gyros, in my view, are at least as safe as fixed-wing, probably a bit safer. But, as always, as a pilot, you are only as safe as you CHOOSE to be. The human factor is not adequately captured by "statistics"....

[@Trevor_Austin]

Neminem Laedit - I liked the last line.

[@RodCrosby]

It is a remarkable fact that it took fixed-wing general aviation FIFTY YEARS to equal the safety record of the early Cierva autogyros. Sadly, by that time (the mid 1970s) gyros had gone seriously astray and were widely viewed as "flying-coffins" - not unreasonably, judging by the terrifying accident statistics of the time. It's a different world now, and the factory-built machines, in my view, can take gyros back to where they could/should be in terms of safety. But we are not quite there yet ! Consider it "work in progress"...

[@rizdrone]

Not for sale aircraft

[@chengao7620]

Is the engine on sale?

[@designsbyphilip510]

Is it just me or is it that alot of the take off accidents seem to occur due to trying to take off like a fixed wing? In most accident videos Ive seen the rotors are semi flat at the start of the run and then pilot attempts to "rotate" at speed and immediately gets behind the power curve. Maybe it is just the videos ive seen.

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

I don't think they try to do that, they simply make that mistake in not bringing the stick rearward. You'll notice it happens almost never in a Magni gyroplane because during the pre-rotation phase you bring the tick back ahead of brake release.

[@Ch1n4Sailor]

Do they have NTSB in the UK???? Or do you not have any UK stories to publish????

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Honestly? We haven't been throwing these things into the scenery as often as you have in the USA recently. Why? Because we have a more effective training regulation, instructors more aware of the aircraft snags and actually in the UK literally zero sales and marketing which protects us from the over sold claims of the US sales man. If you don't like the answer please don't shoot the messenger.

[@RodCrosby]

My take on accidents, after about four years research. About 80% of the worldwide fatals in the "Big-3" [AutoGyro/Magni/ELA] fall into the following categories in roughly descending order. Wire and tree strikes [very "popular" in South Africa] extreme manoeuvres or generally silly ADM by the inexperienced and over-confident engine failure inside the Dead-Man's curve mid-airs [so far, an exclusively French "thing"] Hot/High/Humid/Overweight Mountain rotor insecure helmet or cargo It follows that if you can avoid ALL these, your odds of survival should improve five-fold, to almost negligible risk levels. Avoiding just the top two would chop the death rate by 60%.... So much for fatals. For non-fatals, see all those side-splitting videos of "take-offs" and "landings", and listen closely to Phil !

[@RodCrosby]

Gyros can do amazing things. But just because you can... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpOVoXt4Yq-Ag9E

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

You know very oddly in the UK the accident type most common since the introduction of the "factory built" two seater is take off / landing errors. The next is poor performance planning, so basically running into the airfield boundary fence. The remainder of incidents are there but in such a random and infrequent way that it becomes difficult to suggest a particular pattern. Yet the take off / landing errors are worrying in their frequency. What is quite remarkable is that unlike other forms of aviation I can not think of a single CFIT due to poor weather. That factor suggests to me that in the UK at least people are mindful of not doing silly things so therefore the take off / landing issues are people thinking they are doing the right thing, when it isn't - i.e. an intended action but one that is a mistake. OR its an unintended action because they lapse which seems to me a memory failure likely because of a combination of unfamiliarity in the process or an overly complex process. I think if we could seriously address this issue were might be further on in stopping some of these events.

[@dajanaradic4850]

I am a gyrocopter pilot and I see that pilots or bad training are the causes of these accidents.

[@brunodavidferreira5781]

In Brazil they say that gyroplane até much safer than Amy type of aircraft....no much..

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Ha yes but for some reason there are a greater number of crazy pilots who choose to fly gyroplane

[@cameronlapworth2284]

Spot on

[@АлексейАхметов-л1д]

Может лучше тянущую схему использовать, чтобы силовой кувырок не словить?

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Вы имеете в виду использовать тягач? Конечно, возможно, хотя дизайнов доступно очень мало

[@АлексейАхметов-л1д]

@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 это когда винт спереди и двигатель

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

@@АлексейАхметов-л1д понял. Да, как я уже сказал, подобных конструкций автожиров сегодня очень мало. Вы можете увидеть большинство в этом фильме kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4q4p4F9lNF7aK8

[@ДмитрийКулясов-н2к]

Налицо грубые ошибки в пилотировании

[@johnsweda2999]

How do you get training in the UK I'm in south High Wycombe

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Hi John probably the nearest instructor to you are the guys at Chilton Airpark near RAF Bensen.

[@Amasato_Manami]

このタイプの航空機の問題点は、登場の当初に御父様=靖智太師閤下が指摘しておられました。アドバイスに従った改良を実施していれば、多くの事故は発生していないと思います。 息長氏の姬姓斎皇家のシンクタンクのアドバイスに従って、安全な乗り物へと正常に進化していくことを希望します。

[@Purlee100]

Gyros are inherently safe aircraft, BUT they need to be flown within quite strict parameters, using correct techniques. You cannot learn to fly a gyro in 10 hours as has been advertised, Rotor speed control is an imperative and directional control and correction of lateral drift on landing is vital to ensure safe landings. Get the basics right, apply common sense and a gyro is a very fun way of committing aviation. Failing to engage the brain before you engage the pre-rotator can result in other pilots discussing your shortcomings only in the past tense!

[@TioMussarela]

Hey guys that is not a airplane.

[@pilotendrone]

Why do people màke plane that have a lot of risks (gyrocopter), Even if it works, it doesn't redusk the risk

[@DrEvil-yx4vr]

what deaht traps...

[@FreddyKramerUnterwegs]

Interessant

[@user-tq8ps5wh9u]

Привет. Есть перевод на русский?

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Да - если вы перейдете по этой ссылке, это позволит вам найти субтитры, и вам нужно будет явно выбрать русский язык. Некоторые слова, которые я говорю, не переводятся идеально из-за моего акцента, НО это довольно хорошо, и вы должны быть в состоянии понять, что должны сказать субтитры. Нажмите «CC» в нижней части видео. Это добавляет субтитры, но автоматически они на английском языке. Итак, затем нажмите на логотип «COG» рядом с CC. Это вызывает меню настроек. Нажмите субтитры, затем выберите Автоперевод, а затем прокрутите вниз до русского.

[@user-tq8ps5wh9u]

@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 спасибо

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Дайте мне знать, если субтитры имеют смысл на русском языке.

[@user-tq8ps5wh9u]

@@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 пока не понял как настроить на русский язык Как смогу дам ответ.

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

Привет - разве инструкции, которые я дал вам для такой работы? Используйте кнопку CC в нижней части видео, затем настройте Auto и затем выберите русский язык. Доступ к настройкам осуществляется через символ «cog».

[@eradicator187]

Titles with words like accident or crash in them will always get lots of views because people watch for the splat.

[@TruePatriot59]

Stick to the Ultralight planes much safer.

[@daleyoung87]

True, for those that cannot learn how to fly a gyro.

[@crawford323]

I look at accident reports to at least try and learn something.

[@stealhty1]

Pilot Error due to Showing off

[@kevinhornbuckle]

I am worried about gravity.

[@daleyoung87]

Don't worry. It's been there all along. just waiting . .

[@deltaangar]

Не буду покупать автожир.

[@billryland6199]

Get rid of the long ads & then I'll watch your videos.

[@tylerdowdy2873]

Do you really consider 15 seconds long? You’re using a free service. Feel free to pay for no ads.

[@samarnonallaroundmarlongde1078]

It's not safe

[@daleyoung87]

It's safe. You just have to know how to do it.

[@CristianMauro]

A aeronave mais segura que existe, todos esses acidentes mostrados foram causados por imperícia ou excessos por parte dos pilotos.

[@RaspySquares]

gyros are just a bad idea to begin with.

[@daleyoung87]

I guess hammers are too? There is nothing wrong with a well-built and designed airframe operated correctly.

[@hendranandradrone7064]

Wool

[@peterclark4685]

This type of aircraft is not naturally a sports machine and those who want to exhibit daring-do continue to bedevil the industry. Below 1,000' (arbitrary figure) a gyro is a plodder, forced by physics to interact respectfully with the ground; above that height it provides transport with amazing views. End of. There are very few whose excellent athletic ability (reaction time: minute muscle control: sense of balance), their command of the relevant physics; and loads of practise can do the freak stuff. That should be a lesson in all flight training. The alternative is to be a fringe industry for decades to come. When marketing and design is aimed at the female (still the major economic decision-maker) this industry can be extended.

[@ВадимФилимонов-я7п]

👍👍👍👏👏👏

[@lucky-gh5ox]

Gyrocopters combine the worst of both, airplanes and helicopter..

[@Flintlock1776]

Math and physics always get the last vote.

[@davidwheatcroft2797]

Death machines! Silly flapping rotors - too many moving parts.

[@Colin_Holloway]

When bad pilots kill good gyroplanes. 😕

[@hectordisla]

Lo más feo que se han inventado para volar.

[@prtcgv5105]

No thanks... I'll stick with fixed wings.

[@horseandcart5978]

These are the stupidest things that ever took to the air.

[@gyrocopterflyingclub6148]

the people or the aircraft?

[@daleyoung87]

Idiotic remark by an obviously non-gyro pilot.

[@РоманРоманов-е8г]

Автожира покупай и хребет себе ломай

[@pross7455]

Gyro copters are the worst of helicopters and planes put together in one machine

[@Motorsport-tu1tq]

😂😂😂😂