H.L.M.S. - Gundam Sandrock & Sandrock Kai

[@joejunior5991]

Since the next episode is Exia does that mean this include the Astraea Series as well alongside the variant Exia, Astraea and the Repair One? consider that Exia is the successor of Astraea being the 3rd Gen of Melee Gundam and Astraea is a 2nd Gen Melee Gundam

[@rx-105xigundam2]

Astraea is a general-purpose MS though, since it is used as a testbed for various GN weaponry.

[@joejunior5991]

@@rx-105xigundam2 well chronologically after Astraea was build, Exia was developed later after Astraea but more focused on Close Range Combat with 7 Swords Style

[@kennethmana3103]

@@rx-105xigundam2 what's the best astraea MG that includes P-Bandai?

[@iJ3ff1n911]

@@kennethmana3103 Type-F

[@kennethmana3103]

@@iJ3ff1n911 is this the one with all the weapons of the previous astraea?

[@pkt0827]

finally, my favorite gundam from the 5 gundams that first appeared in wing. also can't wait for the Exia trilogy

[@megaflux7144]

why is it your favorite? i mean.. if we erase the pilots entirely is it still your favorite?

[@pkt0827]

Heat shotels, & yes. it only changes in endless waltz (to wing zero ew)

[@CoopaCoop]

Need a video on the Gundam breakdowns from Hathaway flash !!!

[@backers0416]

I really enjoy your gundam lores, like there's much history to the gundams themselves as the characters. Also looking forward to the Exia episodes. 00 is one of fav series in Gundam, aside from Wing

[@gundam8655]

agreed there is so much that can be said about the 00 machines

[@NeoXNeo2007]

This episode was amazing and what makes it even better is that gundam exia is next

[@firzanwolfred6112]

I enjoy this new episodes of HLMS that you made and keep up the good work my man and do watch out for your own health bro since you got out of surgery and all last year.

[@comradefreedom8275]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Sandrock's ability to take off its backpack is dumb. Also, this is a hot take, but I actually prefer the OVA version of Endless Waltz over the movie version, because I like the arrangement of the music more.

[@duomaxwell90]

I love this series so much. I honestly hope you never stop making these lol

[@zethythonix]

I think I won't...? It's basically unlimited contents for me lol

[@duomaxwell90]

@@zethythonix also I know a while back gou said something like "sorry that the video is so long" I think that's one of the best parts of this series. Short or long they're all great but the longer ones hit extra nice 💯

[@jarodk1294]

Nice video, I like the Sandrock with shotels on its forearms most, it looks cool. As for Exia, it’ll be cool to see at the end of this upcoming 3 part series, certain pilot finally getting proper Gundam, which he deserved to get, since he was so talented that he could hold his own against Gundam while piloting Grunt mobile suit. Thanks for video and see you next time!

[@Kenny_F91]

I'd be lying if I said these videos don't make me appreciate the featured units more.

[@madchatter4032]

Four down only one to go can't wait for shenlong gundam episode

[@DYhalto250]

Really enjoy these, just saying thanks and glad your back

[@Sandrock313]

Gundam Sandrock is the best Gundam out of all the Gundams in Gundam Wing, change my mind

[@zethythonix]

I actually like Deathscythe

[@Jayskli1820]

when you and Kakarot197 drop at the same day 👌🏽and both related to wing series you already know its finna be a good time.

[@joncandib1721]

1 My favorite 5 parts are Sandrock fought against Hesvyarms, Sandrock allow Quatre to escape to space, Sandrock returned to battle to fight against OZ, Sandrock Custom using the Zero System to guide the G team, and Samerock Custom EW slashed down Serpents units. 2 If Sandrock was in Universal Century Era, Sandrock would've assisted White base against Ramba Ral's Gouf.

[@medranodiego8641]

Basically every Gundam show features a "boy band" so i don't know why people use that term just to refer to Wing's protagonists. Nice H.L.M.S as always

[@zethythonix]

I used that term for fun

[@ceecee130x]

Welcome back. Wishing you a healthy and fruitful 2023.

[@Saimeren]

I think Sandrock is my favourite Gundam. I just wish it had more of the Maganac mobile suit colours. Something more earthy to blend into the desert terrain it was so good at fighting in. Rather than white and black with bits of yellow. I think it should have been several shades of brown. Even that Sandleon colour scheme was pretty cool.

[@Sotau890]

Couldn't imagine Sandrock fighting against Sandleon (Sandrock's variant)

[@gem.dionisio]

Interesting... the modified KnockOff Sandrock I've built had modified shoulder armor and a frankenstein built backpack and called it sandrock kai, hahaha. I did not know about the modified rear skirt armor and bigger leg thrusters. Maybe a future restoration will fix that... or maybe, Sandrock Kai Version 2.

[@dennistadeo1990]

Sandrock is my favorite unit in gundam wing, especially the ew versions, though lacking power, its the toughest Gundam around. Heck, Sandrock is the only gundam that can hold its own one on one with Epyon aside Wing zero.sandrock is also my very first model kit among the five gundams and my very first 1/100 gundam kit, the ew version. He just looks so good.

[@pooo0]

im happy to see you making videos again!

[@uriamudeltoro5075]

Havent gotten too far into the shpiel.....but last I checked SR MSG carries a handheld SMG the equivalent of the V-Tech long cannon carried in Battloid mode.

[@medranodiego8641]

If you watch closely to both Endless Waltz versions of the Sandrock, you will notice that the purple version has modified shoulders and torso.

[@digitaladventurer2142]

Actually Sandrock's self destruct system was the same as the others its implied that it developed some degree of consciouness and wanted Quatre to escape and not die. There were a few times when Wing Zero also seemed to mimic this behavior with Heero

[@XllllllollllllX]

I honestly cant wait for the H.L.M.S episode for Gundam Exia

[@AKASUKIJOE]

Hellyeah Sandrock!!

[@captgundam00]

Gundam Wing self destruct is just flashy explosion and gundam parts disconnecting. Easily reconnectable like Lego.

[@DIEGhostfish]

My friend sold me on the idea of combining the Sandrock with UC's mudrock, giving it two big shoulder cannons. 5:48 Sorta like that but bigger and closer in to the head.

[@kellereclub3828]

13:25 The laser gun is not in the manga. It's in the TV series. It essentially looks like the beam machine gun in size, however it fires 1 prolonged beam shot which indeed killed a Virgo by bypassing its planet defensors. There's a scene from the TV series. You can go and dig for it. That scene might have also appeared in other Sandrock info vids on KZbin.

[@zethythonix]

I am talking about the laser gun’s appearance for Sandrock use, I know it’s from the TV, I am explaining that Sandrock only use it in the GOL manga

[@Eleven217]

D&D's Battle Master Fighter class of the gundam series basically

[@enriquemarquez2589]

I like and love the video and I will be ready to watch the next series of hlms of Gundam oo. You deserve some rest and take your time.

[@zeinerperez5812]

Thank you for these videos. I really enjoy Gunpla and aside from my favorite, Destiny Gundam. I know every little of some of the kits I have built. Sandrock is my favorite of the Wing Gundams so again, thanks!

[@JA-Sol-]

My second fave out of the 5 behind deathscythe cuz of its unique weapon designs

[@jamescocja2513]

The king is BACK!!!

[@zeroxexe111]

The video is awesome, I've fell for sandrocks design since I got the old hg back when it came to the west.

[@GundamKType]

I don't care what you say endless Waltz had the better version of every single Gundam not to say the TV or anime versions didn't look awesome but the endless Waltz versions are better with the exclusion of Sandrock.

[@kellereclub3828]

Endless Waltz versions are not necessarily better. The Endless Waltz versions have more effective weapons which can better kill other mobile suits and mobile dolls faster. However, the TV versions are better dualists - their weapons seem to require less ammo, their beam weapons can last longer, their equipment last longer, their armor is stronger, their suits are more brute force and for rugged use - the TV versions are built for lasting endurance and low maintenance.

[@GundamKType]

@Keller Eclub So are the EW versions. The only real difference between the TV and EW is cosmetic which is what I was talking about.

[@kellereclub3828]

@@GundamKType I get it now. You were only talking about appearances. Nothing more for me to add here.

[@Jociaoftrades]

Well the Exia is next, yet another MS with a ton of variations.

[@FoNgThOnG]

It's a damn shame that Bandai couldn't give the P-Bandai Sandrock Custom kit a cloth cape.

[@lindberghyurimaaba9208]

Nice vid. Hope you make a shenlong history.

[@MrTrip666]

Are you planning a H.L.M.S video for Shenlong/Altron also? Love this series. 👌

[@thioyapnio7668]

Ore Wa Gandamu Da is next

[@Nnnora12]

We are all gundam!

[@danielsgames8810]

heck yeah let's go EXIA!!!!!!!

[@agungdewandaru4521]

Thanks was review quatre gundams

[@someone_one_one]

wow now i wanna get an Asclepius to custom with a sandrock to make that sandleon

[@zethythonix]

It shouldn't be too hard, I guess?

[@orionhan2431]

Funny how Virgos in the anime get destroyed by a breeze, but in SD Gundam Cross Rays Virgo's are the toughest Grunt suit and take practically no ranged damage especially in inferno difficulty making Wing Zero completely useless.

[@kellereclub3828]

Videogames all operate under game rules which preserve game balance rather than care about lore. That's how you have advanced alien races engaging Terrans in videogames where Terrans even stand a fighting chance where in the lore they shouldn't.

[@tedsantos8895]

Sandrock could have easily been the star of the show. It's like having Axe (Dota2) on your team. You just know it will be a good game. Plus there are lots of OP characters with Def as their selling Points (Shield Hero, Bofuni). Quatre is a great leader and tactician but he's clearly Back End Position. Sandrock should be piloted by a more Gutsy, Gritty and a bit genius person and the suit will be maximize to shine. Imagine Kenpachi (Bleach), Naofumi (Shield Hero), Lobo (DC), Krusty (Log Horizon), Zorro (One Piece) or Shikamaru (Naruto) piloting it, then it would be fun. Heck even Sleggar Law (Gundam UC OYW) would make Sandrock more interesting.

[@kellereclub3828]

It's the way the character was written. He's not the star of the show nor does he stand out because he was written that way. No point changing something as fundamental as that. With regards to defense, the 4 other gundams already have enough defense from their gundanium. For the TV versions at least - they're practically invulnerable. Still, Sandrock's defense is more than what is necessary it becomes somewhat like luxury in excess. Like a VIP having additional defense for the sake of it. The point is that it's a pointless joke. Which I know may annoy you even more about the character. It's only a pity the character wasn't written the way you'd want him to be. That's the gist. There's nothing more to add on to that.

[@wolfsaints]

I can’t wait until g-witch is finished and you can do the lfrith

[@cheshirecatto]

Waiting for a history lesson episode on the F91 >_

[@gluteusMAXlMUS]

Would be sweet if Bandai would release hover crafts and shoulder cannons which can be stackable with armadillo 2.0. 😛👌

[@zethythonix]

I am so pissed that they didn't include the 2.0 parts in the original PB release

[@gluteusMAXlMUS]

@@zethythonix 😅

[@gluteusMAXlMUS]

​@@zethythonix BTW, you missed out on the video of 5th boy band, Wufie's Shen Long and Altron.

[@Troyjr2423]

Ever thought about doing the gundam age series?

[@zethythonix]

YES! Scheduled at around episode 35-ish

[@kennyhammons]

Would the double zeta be a consideration?

[@zethythonix]

Yes, will be in the big series like Zeta

[@MasterSwo-MK]

Now your average fan would suggest you do Shenlong next. But I'm Mr Big-Brain, and so I suggest you leave the Shenlong for a bit and instead make a vid about the Maganac. That desert dweller needs far more love then it gets.

[@zethythonix]

Unfortunately, I must finish Shenlong when the rotation is back to Wing series, but I will definitely take a break from the Gundams in wing after Shenlong is done, so the grunts will shine for sure!

[@GaryRocksGaming]

If I remember correctly Sand rock had a semi Ai name Alice no?

[@zethythonix]

That's EX-S Gundam from Sentinel...

[@GaryRocksGaming]

@@zethythonix I know Ex-S has a Ai memory might be fuzz, but Ep17 of wing when sand rock about to self destruct was it program to let the pilot go while sand rock walk toward the Leos for self detonation?

[@user-fH2541]

Can you do the development of the original gundam(rx-78-2)next?

[@zethythonix]

That’s gonna be a long waiting

[@user-fH2541]

@@zethythonixAs long as it's coming i can wait.

[@KrotharSmash]

What game is it you pull footage from?

[@zethythonix]

SD G Generation games

[@Leonkennedy5925]

Plzz next episode shenlong and nataku

[@zethythonix]

It will have its chance, but not the recent 5 episodes

[@jayceegribamusic]

Do Shenlong next

[@anwenlokier2292]

In my school vr game, the sandrock gundam took Goalius it was able to grab Goalius and kept walking and then self detonated after that the unit was gone but it showed up as the sandrock sphinx in the mission called secrets revealed as the unit decapitated Goalius to show them his oni biology and this was the reason on why the deathsythe hell pilot has nightmares of decapitated people the sandrock sphinx weapons are unique it scotol are bigger with the ability to turn into a beam bow and has equestrian magic in it so it got the ability to turn into a mobile armour elephant? and it was ultimately sealed in mare time bay as now the only wing gundam unit to be sealed in a area from my little pony

[@MacHineJXD]

So is Teardrop Canon story?

[@zethythonix]

Yes, it's set 20 years after the OVA/Movie timeline

[@joejunior5991]

even though Sandrock IS the weakest of 5 Gundam it is still a Jack of All Trades (Great Melee but not as Good as Deathscythe or Shenlong, Good Mobility but not as Agile as Wing or Heavyarms, Great Mid to Short Range Weapon but still not as Powerful as Shenlong or Versatille as Heavyarms) the Glory of the Loser Sandrock aka the EW version is a Massive Improvement with more Variety of Weapon and much more

[@Shin_Lona]

I don't really look at it as being the weakest, but rather the toughest. It's focus is defense, which makes sense for a command role mobile suit. It can perform mission specific functions that the other units can't, such as defending a base or holding back an enemy force while the others complete their objectives. I believe it was designed with teamwork in mind. If you factor the Maguanac Corps into the equation, it quickly becomes the most formidable unit of the 5. Even by itself, it is still a very capable mobile suit for the reasons you outlined.

[@joejunior5991]

@@Shin_Lona yeah Sandrock is more like a Commander type Unit that also command his army to achieve victory

[@kellereclub3828]

@@Shin_Lona Still, Sandrock's defense is more than what is necessary it becomes somewhat like luxury in excess. Like a VIP having additional defense for the sake of it. The 4 other gundams already have enough defense from their gundanium.

[@aim9659]

bro can someone tell me what manga is cannon to the show? 😭😭😭🤓🤓🤓

[@zethythonix]

Battlefield of Pacifist, Glory of Loser (Manga version of the TV plot, but with Katoki designs), Frozen Teardrop (Novel based on 20 years after Endless Waltz), and G-Unit

[@aim9659]

@@zethythonix thanks so much man !

[@MiyoshiKarin]

We a need HGAC Gundam Deathcythe Hell (TV.Ver) Revive and HGAC Altron(Nataku) Gundam (TV.Ver) Revive we are complete team Gundam Operation Meteor phase final TV.Ver

[@Adniwhack]

P bandai coming to your rescue boss.

[@megaflux7144]

what we need is more unused mobile suits, not more of the same ones weve seen repeatedly already. ::cough-zorin soul-cough::

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

I usually don't care for Sandrock as much as the other four lead Gundams plus Wing Zero and Epyon. That being said, I do like how it initially looks in the Endless Waltz universe and looks at its best with the Armadillo Armor (kinda reminds me of Mudrock). Although, the color scheme for the space ready Sandrock doesn't work as well for me and this is coming from someone who loves the other Endless Waltz upgraded Gundam designs plus Wing Zero and Epyon. Sadly, things are not a whole lot better for its upgraded variant in the TV universe. Compared to Heavy Arms Kai (at least Heavy Arms Kai has twin Gatling guns and the original design was already quite memorable anyways), Deathscythe Hell, and Altron; Sandrock has the least interesting changes.

[@kellereclub3828]

It's a pacifist suit. The melee is for its own defense. It was never meant to engage, but let the Magnacs and 4 other Gundams do the work instead. Try to see the Sandrock as a VIP lounge for Quatre. The character was written in a way to not make you care too much. He's like a +1. Somehow people's expectations is that all 5 gundams have to stand out as individuals but that's not how it works in real life. You don't always have 5, sometimes you have 4+1.

[@slowjamsliver7006]

Ah yes, back to the "yaoi fangirl bait".

[@whateverwhatever4026]

The only Gundam that looks better in EW ver? Bruh.

[@zethythonix]

YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND

[@devildavin]

maybe its my dislike for Quatra i always felt like Sandrock is an underrated Suit. If it had a better or more aggressive pilot Sandrock would be a real monster to deal with and on paper aside from Zero and Epyon. Sandrock could last the longest in a fight thanks to its armor and weapons that don't rely on fuel or power.

[@zethythonix]

Well, Quatre is the most sensitive compared to everyone, he didn't command very well in the beginning, but he got my respect when he broke the other faction's MD System

[@kellereclub3828]

It's a pacifist suit. The melee is for its own defense. It was never meant to engage, but let the Magnacs and 4 other Gundams do the work instead.

[@den2002ph]

as a kid before, its very annoying that sandrock upgrade was lame compare to others. basically not existent

[@kellereclub3828]

It's a pacifist suit. The melee is for its own defense. It was never meant to engage, but let the Magnacs and 4 other Gundams do the work instead.

[@den2002ph]

@@kellereclub3828 im not talking about OP weapon or armor. just a noticeable upgrade. even tallgeese2 upon a glance will you know its upgraded.

[@megaflux7144]

always thought of sandrock as "the most boring part of gundam wing", you managed to atleast hold my interest though.

[@zethythonix]

Well, what do you think of it now XD

[@megaflux7144]

@@zethythonix well, to be fair some of it has to do with its pilot, BUT.. its still flawed. why would you put a "command" unit (which i never REALLY thought of it as until your awesome video) on the field if it more or less had to be in melee range? its awesome that you were able to point out its strengths and that it almost makes sense (i never realized it had the additional defense).. actually it DOES make sense by the end of the series. i guess i just cant think of any instance in human history where the "command" units were on the very front line since.. maybe the anglo-zulu war?

[@kellereclub3828]

@@megaflux7144 It's a pacifist suit. The melee is for its own defense. It was never meant to engage, but let the Magnacs and 4 other Gundams do the work instead.

[@megaflux7144]

@@kellereclub3828 no, it still doesnt make any sense. wouldnt a pacifist RUN AWAY? i seriously cant think of a more passive thing to do. now an assertive suit on the other hand.. but no. i do totally get what youre saying about letting the others do all the fighting, but it couldnt have a long range targeting mechanism or SOMETHING (maybe a way of absorbing another mechs damage or bolstering their damage output)? a pacifist would avoid combat at all costs, like avoid the area ENTIRELY. whats more if its going to have ANYTHING for self defense.. i would choose a gun. like.. its that simple. it could just knee cap other suits so they couldnt move instead of VIOLENTLY ripping them in half or taking their arms off (not a pacifist move).

[@kellereclub3828]

@@megaflux7144 Things don't make sense to you now, so give yourself some time. Yea, he's not 100% pacifist. The driving factor is why wasn't the Sandrock suit made more offensive? There are massive underlining pacifist theme going on here. No, it's not about why you wouldn't choose a gun because it's a better defense weapon. You don't choose a gun because it's at the same time also a better offensive weapon. Big swords are a deterrent - enemy sees you from far with those swords, and still chose to engage you, then it's their choice to be slashed. You've done enough to warn them off. Some direct points to address. A pacifist wouldn't run away, that's not what Gandhi did. Quatre didn't avoid combat, and Quatre slashed through OZ suits for a reason. He was on mission. He had instructions. He hated what he was doing and what he needed to do, and knew that it was necessary to achieve a better outcome. He had a responsibility.