“恨之入骨”却又无可奈何?邹阳教你如何对付长胶!

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4 жыл бұрын

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@fengbaohuang5644
@fengbaohuang5644 3 ай бұрын
教練跟我說過,跟長膠打不能練太多,不然打反膠就要重新適應了,有個概念就行
@ugpee
@ugpee Жыл бұрын
打长胶是一个基本功的照妖镜,其实和长胶练习很爽。最基础的入门要点有四:发不转急长球去顶长胶那一面,不要总试图斗台内短球,不要过分退台,心态要好。
@Jimmy-zx6sd
@Jimmy-zx6sd 4 жыл бұрын
说白了,就是弧圈球要过关,否则啥也是白搭。
@amaple2010q
@amaple2010q 3 жыл бұрын
多谢邹阳老师!长知识了。
@revjohnmingdeelam262
@revjohnmingdeelam262 Жыл бұрын
讲解,示范顶好。谢谢。
@urbanknight2808
@urbanknight2808 3 жыл бұрын
The backhand rubber He Zhuojia (a CNT player) uses is Butterfly Soft Feint, which is 半长半生胶。Trying to playing to someone skillful of using that rubber, he/she would mess up your mind and game big time.
@chensir3
@chensir3 4 жыл бұрын
長膠都不樂意跟你練球,因為你熟悉長膠後,他們就沒得爽了
@user-fr4mx4vx3f
@user-fr4mx4vx3f 4 жыл бұрын
精闢深入,好樣
@yanda7342
@yanda7342 4 жыл бұрын
长胶讲解很明了。生胶怎么打呢?
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 3 жыл бұрын
其實大部分波友都是技術不精,信心不夠,上進心不足,所以怕跟長膠比试,很多教練也不樂意和長膠高手過招。 這個教練都不怎麼懂長膠,長膠高手可以令下旋改變成更重下旋,不旋轉球,上旋球,侧旋球。
@ligangt85
@ligangt85 3 жыл бұрын
两次决赛都输给了长胶 ,终于找到老师了
@hoovanky9536
@hoovanky9536 3 жыл бұрын
太棒了!被长胶打晕了,感觉学起来,感谢
@harmonytrain
@harmonytrain 3 жыл бұрын
謝謝你
@chenbruce6708
@chenbruce6708 4 жыл бұрын
長膠推檔練三個月,但用這種弧圈方式可能要練一、兩年才不會亂死,否則短時間一定會輸長膠! 但如果一開始先類似用直板的反手可以推上下側旋,短時間內可以和長膠有來有往,都熟練了再加練個弧圈,比較不會有挫折感! 我以前程度不好時,看到對方用非反膠的膠皮我就拒打,應該也有很多人和我一樣吧!
@user-og3dg5zs4j
@user-og3dg5zs4j 2 жыл бұрын
我今天就是跟長膠打到懷疑人生
@rainlion0
@rainlion0 Жыл бұрын
我觉得步伐 也很重要 业余的一般步伐不够好 长胶的落点飘忽 常常会由于步伐不到位 打不到球或者出高球
@KARTA-yj5di
@KARTA-yj5di 4 жыл бұрын
Put English subtitles please, thank
@yalegusmle
@yalegusmle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sister, it's so easy to you but most people still hate 长胶 and request banning it:)
@mahyarV13
@mahyarV13 4 жыл бұрын
This is Service and attack after service! and push and loop in Penhold grip.
@jyp870125
@jyp870125 3 жыл бұрын
@ios6877
@ios6877 4 жыл бұрын
Very good
@rainlion0
@rainlion0 4 жыл бұрын
那 侧旋呢
@dmtycn
@dmtycn Жыл бұрын
打球的偶尔用用反手长胶可以,但是正手就很没劲了。特别是还直接近台站着,你会过去长球都没落台就到了他拍子上。
@stevensikonkong5694
@stevensikonkong5694 4 жыл бұрын
第一段: 乒乓球的物理: 膠皮,與球接觸時有兩個作用,撞擊作用及磨擦旋轉作用。撞擊作用,是把來球的速度,再加上球拍前移的速度,通過撞擊,以一定的比例向反方向移動,這個速度比例,稱為擅擊速度比,代表撞擊後,有多少能量還在乒乓球中,沒被膠皮木板吸收了,而化為聲和熱消耗掉了,越是攻擊形的木板膠皮,此比例越接近1, 代表大部份的能量,撞擊後都回到反方向的球中,使球快速向對方飛去。控制形球拍,撞擊中能量損耗較大,回球速度較低,容易控制球的落點位置。待续。
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@stevensikonkong5694 4 жыл бұрын
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@yifanliu1016
@yifanliu1016 3 жыл бұрын
打长胶不能过三板,因为多了就乱了,就是发一个不转,拉一个贼转的,如果对方磕上台那基本就完了。对方发球也是回一板贼转的,然后不是你死就是我亡。
@jesseyu6754
@jesseyu6754 2 жыл бұрын
鄒陽,妳好。我是直板正反面打反膠的。請問妳,當對付長膠回過來的下旋球時,自己可否使用中國傳統獨有的乒技"正反手式突擊"去發揮攻擊呢 ?因為長膠多拍以後接擊回來的弧圈球會越發死沈不好對付。我自創新辭叫" 挑攻",若將其力道和速度強化後,是否優於挑攻或拉弧的攻擊?此技若搭配拉弧交互運用,對於長膠選手而言是否更加難防 ?
@user-dx3bt7fw9q
@user-dx3bt7fw9q 2 жыл бұрын
你这样问鄒阳,她回答不了的。
@jesseyu6754
@jesseyu6754 2 жыл бұрын
為何鄒陽本人不親自回答我的提問呢?你是她的代言人嗎?否則你怎知她不能回答呢?
@user-dx3bt7fw9q
@user-dx3bt7fw9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseyu6754 令你失望了,不是邹阳代言人。 只是觉得她对長膠的认识有限,不可能回答得了。 真正的长膠不会这樣的,不可能送个波让她打,因为长膠很注重落点和节奏的,所以令对手很难受。
@jesseyu6754
@jesseyu6754 2 жыл бұрын
888乒乓球香港長膠大叔,你好。我看這樣吧!既然你自詡為長膠大叔,可想而知,長膠技術一定有自豪之處。我現有突發一想,而後關於乒乓球疑難雜症的問題由我向你提出和討論,不知可否?
@user-dx3bt7fw9q
@user-dx3bt7fw9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseyu6754 你好,多謝留言, 大叔只係用長膠打幾板波,没受过专业训练,也從來没有自豪过,不会解决奇难杂症。如有能力解决奇难杂症者,必須是专业中的专业,顶级中的高手。 有时会有国家队员,省隊主教練,香港高級教練,球館教練等会主動同大叔打比賽或交流一下,他們都只是对大叔的長膠打法感到興趣。 大叔自己是打长膠,觉得邹阳教練说的是太表面化了,她又说長膠的规率是死的,更加肯定她不怎么会同長膠交手。 基於以上说法,只係提醒各位不能只听邹阳教練的说法,应该切实和長膠对手多作交流,才能加深对長膠的了解。
@gangsong1014
@gangsong1014 Жыл бұрын
先进的长胶打法是以正手进攻为主。长胶进攻打过去的往往是下旋,很难接。
@landdevil
@landdevil 4 ай бұрын
所以要先上手进攻。
@tonytao9826
@tonytao9826 4 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍
@jianrshi1254
@jianrshi1254 3 жыл бұрын
没有老师这样的发球和拉球以及搓球、步法,打长胶就根本谈不上。你即使明知其来球的上下旋也难以对付,想不乱也得乱。这得是一整套的技术和功底为基础的,难怪看小邹老师打的那么简单有效呢。期待将来有一个老师与长胶高手柳先生的实战视频。
@user-dx3bt7fw9q
@user-dx3bt7fw9q 3 жыл бұрын
这邹老师是纸上谈兵,谁不会。 应该發放和長膠高手对抗的视频。
@rinconyu2801
@rinconyu2801 4 жыл бұрын
Very good👍 found the rules.
@user-gv7qz7cx1i
@user-gv7qz7cx1i 4 жыл бұрын
她說:你發直球(奔球)給長顆粒' 通常長顆粒會磕回來..但是 也有人長顆粒回球 是第一時間出手'借力(甚至是卸力) 回來的.. 結果是差不多?.
@jackieliang3907
@jackieliang3907 3 жыл бұрын
原理一样,能借力快速“碰”回来说明你的发球质量(特别是角度)不好,对方已经能预判你的落点了(守株待兔),这样回过来一样是下旋球偏向不旋转的下沉球,球速很快,为避免这情况,除了提高发球质量之外一般避免“偷上旋”发球,应以下旋和短球为主
@xxx5373
@xxx5373 4 жыл бұрын
Joy Lay = Cho Lay.....When they win a point
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 3 жыл бұрын
既然很多球友对長胶有兴趣,可以告訴大家一些实 情, 不起欢和長胶对抗的球友,主要是他們的基本功很差,沒能力判定旋轉,头腦较笨转不过来,沒有即時适应的能力,心理怯怕输得很惨,所以不想碰到長胶球員。 反过来,有紮實基本功,头腦灵活,並且要求自己有进步的球友,就更喜歡和長胶比賽,因為每一次都有得益,可以向上一层挑戰。 而長胶球員在開始時都是反贴打法,他們有紥实反贴的基本功,改打長胶之後对旋轉的变化有更深入的认识,加上長胶很注重球的落点和掌握比賽的节奏,而且需要训练良好的手感和不断苦练。 所以大部分业餘的球友都打不过長胶,只有专業队员才具备对抗的能力。
@xiaodong168
@xiaodong168 2 жыл бұрын
恕我直言,使长胶是走捷径,吃发球的,不会拉球的,进攻不好的,体力差些的爱使长胶。对于一般不那么厉害的业余球手,两个水平相当的人一个换了长胶适应一阵子,另一个根本就打不过了。在美国的Rating2200以下基本都怕长胶,当然也看使长胶使的怎么样。
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 2 жыл бұрын
@@xiaodong168 多谢留言, 可能你打波時間不多,所以不了解不同技術的特色。 長膠都是需要苦练的,都有紥实反贴基本功,你可以换一塊長膠试试,能否馬上就赢波?沒有手感沒有技術,就会自殺输波。 世界冠軍張怡宁也要找長膠高手陪练,可知很受重视。 大叔同数百位专業球員交流过,包括國家隊員,他/她們大部分都不懼怕長膠,因為技術高,水平好,对手用什麼膠皮都可以应付。 只有水平不足才会懼怕長膠。 祝享受乒乓球樂趣。
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 2 жыл бұрын
再补充一下,長膠也有拉波和进攻打法的,对手更难应付,你可以多留意。
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 3 жыл бұрын
应付低级長膠而巳。高级長膠完全一樣。
@winglow7615
@winglow7615 4 жыл бұрын
There is a ping pong technique that is lost among young players. I was trained to wrap the ball. Yes, wrap like you would wrap an apple with paper. Regardless of the spin, whether it's from long pip, short pip or reverse pip, after you wrap the ball, the ball is trapped and you can do whatever to the ball. Never heard of wrapping? No surprise.
@user-vt1sr1nw1n
@user-vt1sr1nw1n 3 жыл бұрын
一堆不合格微摩擦長膠很詭異會亂飄,打起來很辛苦,實在不願對陣
@dannyjay7426
@dannyjay7426 4 жыл бұрын
You are hot Ou Yang !!!❤️你
@joshuacui2911
@joshuacui2911 Жыл бұрын
是反的,因为对方是磕过去的 如果对方加旋转,就不一定了
@MindFreedomism
@MindFreedomism 3 жыл бұрын
7:15 先做这个再说吧
@wujason
@wujason 4 жыл бұрын
長膠應該不太願意跟人練球吧?尤其是高手等級
@chrisleekyable
@chrisleekyable 4 жыл бұрын
是的。就是要你不適應,他才赢你。
@opqr0225
@opqr0225 4 жыл бұрын
沒那麼嚴重啦,不找些有點程度的練,長膠也很難提升
@sawprusmoceder4307
@sawprusmoceder4307 10 ай бұрын
确实如此
@snbanarcher6158
@snbanarcher6158 4 жыл бұрын
拱你还得刮你找削
@table_tennis_fever
@table_tennis_fever 4 жыл бұрын
she's great player, but come on!!!! why every long pips tutorial says the long pips ONLY reverse the spin??? That is NOT TRUE! It depends on how the long pips contact the ball! Usually it involves, at moment of contact, the amount of RUB, the direction of the RUB (sideway rubs do NOT reverse spins!!!), and the position of the racket which VARIES the amount of reversal or NONE at all sometimes when combined with the direction. That is why it's difficult against long pips. _ One more thing about long pips that make it difficult - the side swerve and/or front/back pace change once the ball bounce is soooooo many variations, I do not yet understand all of them, which force me to react to the ball bounce/ swerve PASSIVELY rather than actively, thus missing good timing to kill the ball! _ ALL TUTORIALS I've seen are all about dealing with reversal of spin.... who doesn't know that after 1 time playing against them? come on! I want advanced long pips tutorial! I'm talking about REAL long pips master , AMATEUR level. Do NOT forget long pips can smash good too! especially after a combination of the above 3 factors of changing the spin/pace, it forces our pushes to pop up just enough for them to smash a hard one, often no spin / bottom spin when it gets to our racket.... who doesn't know how to handle spin reversal? it's in the little details that we are confused about!
@StuffLeaver
@StuffLeaver 4 жыл бұрын
In this video Coach OuYang proposed some patterns for you guys, and each of them is based on the basic principles - reverse the spin. Although not all the come-back are so obvious, they obey the rule. In real case the fighters against long-pips-player must set their own patterns of attacking with their unique specialises.
@yifanliu1016
@yifanliu1016 4 жыл бұрын
看起来你还不太懂球,不只是长胶的问题。
@table_tennis_fever
@table_tennis_fever 4 жыл бұрын
@@yifanliu1016 depends on the level. i'm very good in amateur circles, but i'm not professional , and did not go through pro training
@Hin-yi6gw
@Hin-yi6gw 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a good long pimples player can smash, can topspin, can counter, can add more variations to their games. In this case, there isn't any strategy that works against everyone because their strength and weaknesses would be different. What you can do would be building your own tactics based on the players strength and weaknesses, while not forgetting the spin reversal and keep in mind to not add complicated spins making yourself suffer. The side swipe you hate, as long as your shot does not have too much spin, the side swipe is nothing but a weak sidespin return. Good players will try to force you to add spin so they can utilise their side swipe to make you suffer, and you just need to be careful to not fall on their trap. You have mentioned the amount of spin from long pimple is different between different rubbers, and your pushes popping up. Well, that could be the long pimple players have faked their movements and make you misjudge the spins. There's nothing you can do than getting used to their rubber neutral return, and finding out when they were faking when they were not as soon as possible during a match.
@chrisleekyable
@chrisleekyable 4 жыл бұрын
邹阳教練,妳的球技了得,怎樣打也行。要找一个像老師一样的长胶高手练習,这个是難處。🤔
@guohongtay27
@guohongtay27 4 жыл бұрын
主要是长胶很难找到能练球的,很多用长胶是为了打比赛赢球的,根本不愿意和别人多练球,怕别人揭穿他的套路
@UFOcgj
@UFOcgj 4 жыл бұрын
@@guohongtay27 确实,业余球场我见过挺多,正常双反打不过别人就开始学长胶,说到底还是为了赢,跟这种人打球都感觉不到乐趣
@marcowu2248
@marcowu2248 4 жыл бұрын
@@UFOcgj 你能赢他的时候兴趣就来了。
@chrisleekyable
@chrisleekyable 4 жыл бұрын
@@guohongtay27 就是这样。练球的時候,未必用長胶令你熟習。
@santosowibowo5376
@santosowibowo5376 4 жыл бұрын
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@XupremeHKG
@XupremeHKG 4 жыл бұрын
因为长胶都经过处理 特软 磕 挡回球很多时不出台 。。。 专业的都输 不简单 讲解太普通
@yifanliu1016
@yifanliu1016 4 жыл бұрын
搓一个打一个准没错
@XupremeHKG
@XupremeHKG 4 жыл бұрын
@@yifanliu1016 你搓过去 长胶撇回或挡回低弧线近网球且不跳 根本就不好打 哈哈哈 在中国玩的都是油泡长胶
@user-wm3tq1sv3e
@user-wm3tq1sv3e 3 жыл бұрын
@@XupremeHKG 打長膠不能搓,要加力劈長,逼退對方並磕給你,回的球如果短一率用半出檯衝球,對方再會防也是下風,防久也是輸。
@jjing6548
@jjing6548 9 ай бұрын
优胜劣汰的结果是大家全都打开长胶,乒乓变得无趣
@brntmc
@brntmc 3 жыл бұрын
對手長顆轉個拍,你就亂了。
@user-wm3tq1sv3e
@user-wm3tq1sv3e 3 жыл бұрын
找機會就要加力殺,對方又要轉拍又要防,很忙的。與轉拍長顆不能周旋超過三來回,否則轉拍後就被帶節奏了。
@yhtlxy
@yhtlxy 3 жыл бұрын
只要你的基本功扎实,遇到长胶没问题,用长胶的人水平都不好
@mankitlou1960
@mankitlou1960 3 жыл бұрын
長膠打得好的人,基本功需要非常扎實
@user-dx3bt7fw9q
@user-dx3bt7fw9q 3 жыл бұрын
@@mankitlou1960 師兄説得對,任何打法,不論反貼,正膠,長膠都需要扎實基本功。 好的長膠球員還需要特別好的手感,能夠將旋轉改變成 不轉,更轉,反旋轉,側轉球。 還有清晰及反應特快的頭腦。
@HO-hw2fg
@HO-hw2fg 3 жыл бұрын
呢Lxy 真是不会打球,什么用長胶的人水平都不好,正白痴。 長胶都要苦练,头腦特別灵,国家队员,世界冠軍都会找長胶高手陪练,你懂不懂?
@sungchung3588
@sungchung3588 2 жыл бұрын
打長胶的人,全都不能拿世界冠軍,當然因為基本功不好或不扎實或是比不上打正/反膠的人,這不用爭論。
@NICKVRV110
@NICKVRV110 10 ай бұрын
这是傻子长胶喂你球打,拉功还得好。他要放短,刮,拱,点,打一起上反胶立刻晕菜了。
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