How to: Set Tool Length and Work Offsets - Haas Automation Tip of the Day

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Haas Automation, Inc.

Haas Automation, Inc.

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@haasautomation
@haasautomation 3 жыл бұрын
For details on setting Tool and Work Offsets manually, using an Offset/Height Gage or 123 block, check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2imqKSgipeqnZo - Mark
@ryanpatton1795
@ryanpatton1795 4 жыл бұрын
This may not apply to a lot of shops but heres what I was taught. I get a 2" insert mill with a known tool length. I jog that down and face off some material. I set operator Z offset to 0. I call up the tool I want to measure / blend. I jog it down and jog across the area the 2" endmill cleaned up. Go to .0001 and jog down until you see the finest dust particles. Add the operator offset to the length of the 2" endmill. Perfect blending everytime because you literally made the blend yourself. Thanks to the guy who showed me this.
@jalalpakdaman4913
@jalalpakdaman4913 2 жыл бұрын
The way that you set tool offset and work offset z values was amazing. I watched few videos about this subject but yours was by far the best and the simplest one. Many Thanks sir.
@kamachine8663
@kamachine8663 5 жыл бұрын
Loving these Haas Tips videos. Just to share, I always set my part zero from an empty spindle. Then each tool has its own length value that equals the distance between the spindle and the part.
@dragonflyfab8982
@dragonflyfab8982 7 жыл бұрын
I like to always set tool length offset by going UP to a standard, not down. EG bring tool down to Z .900 next to a 1.000 block; increment up to Z1.000 until block slides under; add (-1.000). Prevents an early morning fat finger smash. Thanks Mark!
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Our shop standard comp point is 2 inch block. Back off starting with .010 increments, then .001 then down to .0001s. Also, we never comp on top of a surface that will get milled at some point. Something happens along the way and you need to comp a new tool......and your comp surface is gone.
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 Жыл бұрын
Yup 100% thats the way you should be doing it prevents crashes.
@ProbotixPlus
@ProbotixPlus 6 жыл бұрын
We do it a bit different, but we are a production shop, not a job shop. First we find the distance from the spindle face to the table, add back in the height of the tool setter gauge (2"), and store that in G57. Then we jump into G57 before setting the tools with the "tool offset measure" button (there is a setting you have to change to use the work offset for this). This allows us to throw a scale up next to the tool to sanity check the z height. We also write the tool length on the tool holder with a sharpie if we ever remove them, then key it back in when its reloaded. The only time we need to measure a tool is if the sharpie rubs off or we break a tool. We have about 12 tools that are always the same, and we cycle in the others (maybe 80 different ones) as we need. To set the work piece Z, we measure from the table to the work top with a dial test indicator (that G57 Z value - 2" + the measured distance). We make use of all of the G154 P offsets, comment our parallel heights, never pull our vises, and setup is almost nothing.
@matthaushetzenauer2591
@matthaushetzenauer2591 Жыл бұрын
This makes more sense to me than what Mark showed here lol
@Saki630
@Saki630 5 жыл бұрын
I dont even own a wrench, but I am here learning about G-code and setting up a million dollar CNC machine in the middle of the night.
@edastro7707
@edastro7707 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the Hass, it could be a $55,000 machine in USD.
@Thatz_Dustin
@Thatz_Dustin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not a million bucks. They're about the cost of a luxury car +- a few bucks.
@professorjim6874
@professorjim6874 3 жыл бұрын
VF3SS is $82K
@rosendoaraque2202
@rosendoaraque2202 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good profession , learn it
@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104
@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 2 жыл бұрын
New they are probably 40-80k. But used they are much less. Far from a million dollars
@davidlawson3998
@davidlawson3998 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I am using these videos to help the recruiters at my Machinist Staffing company to understand the terms they hear every day. Great job!
@jasonbourne4865
@jasonbourne4865 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused by the tool offsets until I realized the machine was using inches! Great video! :)
@JohnPlant90
@JohnPlant90 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the late 1960's I operated a NC 3 axis machine. The systems and the hydraulic drives became unreliable and the machine was sent off for a retrofit to electric drives and a Allen Bradley CNC system. For a while we relied on tapes made by our Production Engineers - until we needed to make something for ourselves - we soon learned to programme it. However, for ages we programmed the centre path of the tool and controlled size by cutter diameter. Eventually the penny dropped and we leard to programme the part and use offsets.
@ShaneCollins-x9v
@ShaneCollins-x9v Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great explanation. I noticed in the final code referenced you set your Z value to 0 on the G55 offset not 0.1, which would bring the tool down to the part.
@hardeepbhatti5338
@hardeepbhatti5338 Жыл бұрын
i also noticed this, good eye
@Bob-sf9ht
@Bob-sf9ht 3 жыл бұрын
I was running machine shop take care of the different kind of CNC machines, in current, I will try get the machine job again hopefully everything going well. Thank you .
@frostbitevinnie
@frostbitevinnie 3 жыл бұрын
After 20 years of using a tool height setter Im in a new shop running Haas, new to me, and setting tool lengths as you show. This shop wants to buy a height setter but all the methods they now use will have to be changed. This should be fun to watch!😀
@SqueegeeBeaverRacing
@SqueegeeBeaverRacing 9 ай бұрын
I’ve always preferred setting the Z location off the face of the spindle nose and then have the tool lengths represent the actual offline measurements as if using a tool setter. I had one owner tell me that a Cnc machine is a very expensive tool setter and is better served making chips and not measuring tool lengths. So it kinda stuck with me. His machines, his rules. But I saw the benefit. Especially when replacing worn or broken tools or setting up the next job while the machine is still running the current one
@Kevin-gq2qs
@Kevin-gq2qs 4 жыл бұрын
From my experiences, G54 is typically dropped -.01-.03 for stock variance. Then G55 is typically set at your finished part thickness. With whatever needs to be cut off set in the linking parameters “top of stock” in the program. And 0.0” for the depth. Or it’s fat fingered in the machine to adjust your depth of cuts.
@jimmyworkman7709
@jimmyworkman7709 8 ай бұрын
I do it completely different.. touch of XYZ G54/55/etc first. Use edge finder/indicator for XY (depending on what X0Y0 is), I use the quill (the spindle without a tool) and a solid 1-2-3 block. My z value will always be negative in my work offset. Then for tool touch off, I have a standard usually set up that I find, take the difference machine position with that tool and my set standard and I have my tool length. I only do this in my shops old hitachi Seki machines. My shop also decided to get fancy and buy Reinshaw probes and tool touch off probes for our newer machines.
@amandac47
@amandac47 4 жыл бұрын
This video has been so helpful and clear to understand, where I work I have been doing Cnc turning, Cnc milling, multi-spindle turning, Grinding and Broaching. and know I have a better understanding. Thank you!
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for this and all your other demonstration videos. as an apprentice CNC Machinist information and habits like these really help with further understanding of the concepts.
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 3 жыл бұрын
May I suggest comping your tools off of a stack up on the table instead of on you stock? Once you start machining your part you have altered your comp surface and may be unable to add or change a tool and comp it accurately in relation to the existing tools.
@Codypod
@Codypod 3 жыл бұрын
What I would love to see is the evolution of “Haas control”...from their 1st ever to absolutely the newest!!!! That would be amazing (operator control)
@weblogmovie
@weblogmovie 5 жыл бұрын
You are a great teacher. Thank you ...
@trazy38
@trazy38 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of shops don't have a probe . I work in one now, so I use 1-2-3 block and edge finder. I'll try different methods mentioned. The owner would rather buy boat, houses, Cadillacs opposed to updating machines
@123kkambiz
@123kkambiz 5 жыл бұрын
Your boss must be an IDIOT
@samarthsavalia
@samarthsavalia 4 жыл бұрын
hello Haas Automation i am a student and i am gaining knowledge from you love from India
@N1SEP-
@N1SEP- 2 жыл бұрын
Good things to learn from many of your videos, keep up the good work man! HAAS keep this man employed, and give him a raise!
@darrenvosper634
@darrenvosper634 7 жыл бұрын
Do like the probe, touch all tools of the table (not the work piece) on a 1-2-3 block on the last tool (whilst at the "z" on the 1-2-3 block) set the "operator" "Z" origin move up and touch on the top of the work piece and that "z" value is what you set your G54 "Z" too. Then if a tool breaks or you want to use multiple offsets all you have to do iis set that "z" value and all the tools that are in the machine are ready for action. Also handy if you work on parts that have no "flat" "z" plane after you start machining....
@embeeh7738
@embeeh7738 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren. We do the same method zeroing all tools to a touch probe mounted on table top. Any new tool will be touched to the probe regardless of any work offsets. The key is to measure the height from the touch probe to any part Z zero and register this to the corresponding work offset Z value. If the part Z zero is above the touch probe, that makes the work offset Z value as positive. For plates thickness less than the probe height, the work offset Z value is set as negative.
@Creator_Kiran_Vlogs
@Creator_Kiran_Vlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much now I'm working on this version machine it will be most helpful to me
@ncsteinb
@ncsteinb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this easy to understand. I'd been overthinking this concept for hours...
@RockerGuy0001
@RockerGuy0001 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these educational videos, Haas.
@eriklindbergs5017
@eriklindbergs5017 5 жыл бұрын
I do my tool offsets slightly different. I use my Tool 1 (indicator) Z offset as always 0. We reserve G59 in our shop as the bed and set that using the indicator and use that zero to touch off our other tools. Our controllers don't have a built in too measuring routine, so i wrote a macro to do it this way. My G54-G58 offsets are then set using the indicator - keeping them independent of the cutting tool offsets.
@woodmanengineering9708
@woodmanengineering9708 7 жыл бұрын
...Don't stop these "tip of the day". You are saving my butt. Some of the comments below talk about setting off the table...OK fine. But if you already know this then the value of this video is lost on you. You may be right, and you may have used this method shown when you first started....Then it came to you, with experience. That's how we all learn. Baby steps or crash. (40 years a machinist...First time Haas owner)
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 7 жыл бұрын
Woodman Engineering - Thanks for the encouragement. I liked your take on this type of setup - there are definitely a lot of ways to skin a cat, good ways, we just chose to cover the fundamentals in this video. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@Ambrosiamovies
@Ambrosiamovies 7 жыл бұрын
I use both methods on big 3x2 meter routers. I use the table offset when i need to cut something all the way through, like holes and profiles. When i need to do countersunk holes or pockets that are depth sensitive i set off top of material because hpl(laminate) has a tolerance of ±0.5 so table offset is a no no. Basically you got to make it work, whatever fits your needs, there is no right way of doing it.
@tienduong4933
@tienduong4933 6 жыл бұрын
we know that. we thank you from vietnam
@mattstoner2145
@mattstoner2145 7 жыл бұрын
Positive gauge length is what most shops should be using. All your standard tools will work on any job. Just measure gauge line of the spindle to work piece and have a presetter to measure tool length. You have G54 - G154P99 so why not use them.
@armandoivanzamorabravo3190
@armandoivanzamorabravo3190 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Stoner we always use positive offsets you can use the same tool in different jobs as you tool offset is same as tool length
@cadcamokulu
@cadcamokulu 5 жыл бұрын
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@rickys369
@rickys369 Жыл бұрын
🙃 z10 z2 single line straight to .1 just using feeds switch mad man haha thanks so much straight on the haas now your vids are awesome 👌
@imbored742
@imbored742 7 жыл бұрын
While setting tools off the top of the stock is quick and easy, it's really not an optimal solution. If a tool breaks and needs to be replaced after you've already faced the part you no longer have the same reference point to touch it off against. In addition any offsets set this way will not be applicable across different setups, requiring you to reset all your offsets for every job, which can be a pretty big time waster. You'd be better off using either an electronic or dial height setter to measure off of the machine table, then use your indicator to measure from the table to the workpiece the same way you measured from the G54 offset to the G55. You can also tag tools with their offset values when they are removed from the machine, then simply re-enter those values the next time you use that tool.
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
You use a taught tool to figure out the difference... say .020 then you would add .02 to the length offset. Its all numbers not that hard... Some teach from table with 1 2 3 block or 2 4 6 block some use top of the vise, and some use subplate.
@imbored742
@imbored742 7 жыл бұрын
You're better off using the table or a sub plate rather than the vice, for one depending on your use case the vice might not always be there, for another, the top of a vice's solid jaw isn't always flat or level. For me, I reference off of the sub plate, since it's basically a permanent fixture in my mill. Whatever you do choose as a reference point it should be repeatable, simple, and consistently available.
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
Same applies maybe they never pull the vise off? Maybe they order matched sets? Just depends
@imbored742
@imbored742 7 жыл бұрын
Never happens more often than you'd think. I'd still prefer referencing off of the table or sub plate. I'd only reference off of the vice if I had no other option, such as if the table or sub plate were inaccessible.
@SUMOCAT86
@SUMOCAT86 7 жыл бұрын
Why would you need to set the new tool from the stock If you have the old(broken tool) tool value and the new tool value? You can basically use any point on the machine. Just figure out what is the difference between old and new tool and then type in the correct value. And why would you re set all your tool offsets? tool lenght is tool lenght, You set a new zero point.
@albertwadejr849
@albertwadejr849 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to machining and this has helped tremendously. Thank you.
@sushantmagadum4061
@sushantmagadum4061 6 жыл бұрын
you really amazing sir, i like the way of explained the fine details.
@yobaniperez1190
@yobaniperez1190 5 жыл бұрын
excelent CNC lessons, high quality videos. CONGRATS!!!, thank you
@EduardSidorov-i3f
@EduardSidorov-i3f 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Thank you for the instructional video.👍
@omkardandwate8922
@omkardandwate8922 7 жыл бұрын
Sir we are using hass vf4 in our company and this video was really useful while operating it....
@mikedotleb
@mikedotleb 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video series. Subscribed!
@robzillian
@robzillian 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Just landed my first job out of school running a conventional lathe. Main goal is to gain an employers trust and set-up these bad boys.
@Oclb
@Oclb 6 жыл бұрын
what are you doing now a year later?
@LordOfChaos.x
@LordOfChaos.x 4 жыл бұрын
What are u doing now 3 years later?
@vatandas1542
@vatandas1542 4 жыл бұрын
Now an employer......
@robzillian
@robzillian 4 жыл бұрын
Shoot now Ive been through 3 cnc jobs. This last place is the hardest. Run my own setups start to finish and do some basic programming.
@jarisipilainen3875
@jarisipilainen3875 7 жыл бұрын
for short. tool height is from iso taper flat edge to tool tip. that is positive measure. your G54 off set is - something from machine zero
@horizontaljumper1991
@horizontaljumper1991 7 жыл бұрын
I find it quick and safe to measure tool length offsets using a 1-2-3 block and sliding the block behind the cutting edge of the tool while jogging in .0001" until it starts to rub slightly then hit Measure. No need to remember to subtract any values and there's less risk of accidentally hitting the jog wheel and ramming the tool into a fixed object. You do have to be careful not to slide the 1-2-3 into the cutting edge.
@razor666666
@razor666666 7 жыл бұрын
I newer do it like this. Use any kind of toolsetter touch it off with spindle then write down machine Z value. Then when you touch off tool on a toolsetter press tool measure and then add value you wrote down when setting off a toolsetter.
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 7 жыл бұрын
That’s a great method as well. I hope to do a video on that method in the future. Thanks for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@billruss6704
@billruss6704 3 жыл бұрын
This method can cause problems. The correct tool length is from the face of the spindle to the tip of the tool. Using the light up probe touch the face of the spindle to the probe (lights up). Set operator position z=0. Now measure all your tools. When the probe lights the operator position will be your tool length. To set your work offset touch any tool to the top of the part cursor over to your g54 (or g55,etc.) Z, then press work offset set key, (then put the cursor back to Z because it will move to X) then minus the current tool length. This way you do not need to re measure all the tools when switching to another part.
@nelsonbrum8496
@nelsonbrum8496 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish Haas had a global edit feature like the Fadal I ran at my last shop. I set all my tools off the vise ways using a 1" Mitutoyo zero setter. On the Fadal, I could go to the tool offset screen and subtract 1.0" from all my tools at once. Instead, I have to go tool by tool to do it on the Haas. Using the vise ways makes all my Z offsets positive: parallels + part/stock thickness. Easily verifiable with a calculator to check for tampering. 1.375 part thickness sitting on .50" parallels? Just add it up. Boom, 1.875, Z offset done.
@umargul5644
@umargul5644 4 жыл бұрын
Well done sir, g54,g55 work offset concept cleared.
@keithhansen3963
@keithhansen3963 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, I was hoping to see you set H offsets with the Haimer. Any chance you could demonstrate that procedure.
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
You do the same as tool.. just jog it down under the haimer reads "0" then hit tool offset measure..
@elig9169
@elig9169 5 жыл бұрын
I like very much, you make it self explanatory....TY!
@endlessinnovations6518
@endlessinnovations6518 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always, just one comment..On your last point where you are showing the two programs,the G54 and G55...You show the program for the G55 going to Z0.0 not to Z0.1..Just in case someone copies those exactly, the G55 will go right to the top of the part..Just FYI..Thanks for all the great Videos !!! Cheers
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
No he didn't
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 7 жыл бұрын
Endless Innovations! Thanks for catching this. It looks like the graphics, at 11:13 in the video, show G43 H06 Z0, instead of the correct G43 H06 Z.1. It looked good when we were explaining things at 9:51 though. We’ll try and fix it up. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day.
@timschjei3917
@timschjei3917 6 жыл бұрын
When figuring in the thickness of the shim or the 2" touchoff probe, we are not subtracting the thickness, we are adding to the the value that happens to be in the minus direction. Good videos 👍
@ramonbenitez3757
@ramonbenitez3757 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍👍👍👍👍👍 & you explain very well, I'll wait for the next one.
@hugolasrolas
@hugolasrolas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, very usefull, good job!
@Eggsr2bcrushed
@Eggsr2bcrushed 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like 123 blocks are the easiest way to do offsets. put the tool lower then the block and jog up until the block just slides under the tool. then move offset 1,2, or 3 inches down depending on the side you used.
@Eggsr2bcrushed
@Eggsr2bcrushed 7 жыл бұрын
nick real paper and shimstock are pretty shitty
@nickreal8188
@nickreal8188 7 жыл бұрын
Eggsr2bcrushed Good point, I feel that it is also safer
@Eggsr2bcrushed
@Eggsr2bcrushed 7 жыл бұрын
another point is that when you go from .1 to .001 that you go a few click up first to make sure it registered and that you aren't about to start cranking the wheel and drive into the part.
@ydna
@ydna 7 жыл бұрын
Using a 123 block is king. You can easily use any gauge block to slip between the tool and workpiece WITHOUT crunching the tool into it. and you know the exact thickness without pinching the block. Shim stock and paper is for manual mills.
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
I use .375 surface ground coin.. what does mean for me?
@quynhtuanusa3972
@quynhtuanusa3972 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you. Love your educational videos.
@gopikrishna2597
@gopikrishna2597 6 жыл бұрын
Really good contribution by haas
@jeffrawe6486
@jeffrawe6486 4 жыл бұрын
In our tool room we used a measured master setting arbour. That size was entered as T1. All other tools were measured and entered as T2 T3 T4 etc the computer automatically adjusted the tool size against the arbour.
@TinkuTank-q4s
@TinkuTank-q4s 5 ай бұрын
Very good understanding n specially prog n penal key zooming.thnx sir keep making vedio we will appreciate u by like n subscription.
@derryafandi7717
@derryafandi7717 Жыл бұрын
So g55 for a new part, and g43 just for tool nice vid
@jamesscott8016
@jamesscott8016 7 жыл бұрын
Please advise and alternate method, I use a Renishaw probe in the machine to calculate work offset positions which are absolute machine positions. I believe measuring tools in the way you've shown would cause disaster for me as my Z positions are all negative. We have no tool setter so currently use a block and bring an empty spindle down to touch off (not on the dogs, on the flat) then we hit origin for Z, put the tool in the spindle and touch off the tool end on the same block and hey presto we've got our measurement but it has to be typed in manually. I'd love a way to utilise the "tool offset measure" and "next tool keys" but this video isn't suitable. Thanks again for all the great videos. Keep them coming.
@jamesscott8016
@jamesscott8016 7 жыл бұрын
will changes to setting 244 and setting 64 make the tool offset measure key usable in my situation?
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 7 жыл бұрын
Hi James. This video gives instructions on setting Tool, and Work Offset Z value offsets MANUALLY only. If you have a Probing System, you must not mix-and-match methods, or you will run into problems. Thanks for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@pedromorales7443
@pedromorales7443 7 жыл бұрын
awesome, this is almost how i give the class to my students, i'm going to add this video to my class.... thanks!!!! :3 :B
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@250smacks
@250smacks 5 ай бұрын
This guy looks like Andrew Tate, excellent instruction ! Thank you sir
@Baxtersadventures
@Baxtersadventures 6 жыл бұрын
I use probing 99% of the time but for the at occasion when I have to do a part that is bigger than my table and I have to take off the probing system I like to set all my tools off of the table by using 1 2 3 blocks stacked up to 5 inches then my g54 G55 and so on Z offsets are simply the distance between my zero and 5 in off the table easily set with an indicator and using operator position I find this the most precise way and all my Blends usually come out near perfect that would not be the case if I was using paper off the top of operation number one. Also if there is any tool breakage and you have to re pick up a tool the 1 2 3 blocks stacked up to 5 inch off the table is a constant, however the block you are picking up of rostock is not Also if you are a machine shop that doesn't have probing if you make your employees pick up all tools off of 1 2 3 blocks 5 in off the table there is no question between the operators of where the tools are touched off, this makes things more efficient because tools can be left in the machine between jobs such as face Mills spot drills that are common tools between different jobs
@cadcamokulu
@cadcamokulu 5 жыл бұрын
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@garnetedwards1705
@garnetedwards1705 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir thanks you for that veido great work you are very informative on that veido.
@joseserna2432
@joseserna2432 5 жыл бұрын
Dude you're awesome, I do nothing but lathe work, I want to learn that Mill, I'll be happy to learn how to do set ups and run my on work!
@dirty_dutchman2558
@dirty_dutchman2558 4 жыл бұрын
wow thats a really good way to crash a machine when someone comes and teaches a broken/dull tool properly. 🤜
@HoChunk85
@HoChunk85 4 жыл бұрын
You are broken/dull
@jimthepilotguy
@jimthepilotguy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark! Thanks for making it simple and straight forward!
@jerzywilk7788
@jerzywilk7788 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job, well done
@219garry
@219garry 4 жыл бұрын
cellophane wrapper from a cigarette pack for touching off. Pretty much is dead on when you see it and feel it scratch. I always make sure i drag it under the whole end mill just in case one flute is a longer. You never know. We use a lot of resharpened end mills. Not always perfect.
@paulpatriot1776
@paulpatriot1776 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you
@muhndkalil9234
@muhndkalil9234 7 жыл бұрын
such amazing video very usefel thank you for this video☺
@MThomsto8405
@MThomsto8405 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another excellent demonstration! This will help me get up and running soon. And I assume if I set the tool Z heights at the table for example, I would enter a positive Z axis height delta to the part top surface in the G54 Z axis zero.
@PisTTasha
@PisTTasha 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, It would be great if you do a video about cutting the vice soft jaws and machine the other side of the part . Keep em coming :)
@mf_01
@mf_01 3 жыл бұрын
no problem
@josechavez3670
@josechavez3670 7 жыл бұрын
great video. I've never ran a Hass before but this are great tips.
@AliSbahi
@AliSbahi 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing sir . If you give us a look about the interface of your machine . For example how can we load a file etc.... and thanks alot by the way
@millingcnc3517
@millingcnc3517 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for explanation.just share if i always use datum inside the program by using G90G10L2P1X0.0Y0.0Z0.0. and set the z value by: mc position - offset value
@vatsalbhatt8630
@vatsalbhatt8630 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@salvadorebertolone
@salvadorebertolone 4 жыл бұрын
i do something similar sometimes, but i'll jog it close, then mdi a g01 g54 z3 f10, double checking its g01 f10, put my finger on the red button, hit go and then check z3 with a 123 block.
@brianropel
@brianropel 22 сағат бұрын
I’m currently teaching my first ever apprentice at my work and we use Haas machines, I try to be as safe as possible everywhere possible especially when writing any code in MDI. My question is pretty stupid, and might not have a real answer, but when you wrote your MDI code you didn’t include a G17 and a G40. I’ve taught my apprentice to always have this in his first line of code just as a precautionary step. So example our first lines would look like this G90G40G17; M06T1; G00G54x0.0Y0.0M03S1500T2; G43H1Z.5;
@3DMachineIncPowderSprings
@3DMachineIncPowderSprings 7 жыл бұрын
Mark, This is the first time I strongly disagree. You set the tool off of stock. Let's say that a tool brakes on the third part. The part has been faced. Now where do you set reloaded tool that needs the correct offset? Not a good work practice.
@guardiangregory
@guardiangregory 7 жыл бұрын
3D Machine, Inc. my co worker and I agree with the tool teach position. also, nothing was verified with precision, the facemill will have varying inserts, and any blends from the tools will be off from the start. 123 block from the table for tools, then sure an indicator to tell the Z offsets from tool 0
@chiefmachining7972
@chiefmachining7972 7 жыл бұрын
You use a taught tool to figure out the difference... say .020 then you would add .02 to the length offset
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 7 жыл бұрын
3D Machine - Great comment! I agree with you, and I like the whole topic you brought up. I think a video on “Where do you set your Work Offsets and Why” is looming in the near future. As a rule (more of a guideline), I set my Work Offsets on billet parts (first Op) against the solid jaw, or center of the stock (easy for machines with probes), for XY, and on top of the FINISHED part for the Z, for just the reason you stated. For second ops I almost always locate and program off the part datum for my XY, where my dimensions are called from, even if that means rotating the part around. Even on second op stuff (locating on finished part), I usually program my Z off the top of the finished part. On castings I’ll program off the print datums for XY and Z (common Automotive practice). The part in the video was actually programmed with Z at top of finished part, not stock, but I didn’t want to add more math and other topics into this already long video. Thanks again for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-Day.
@SUMOCAT86
@SUMOCAT86 7 жыл бұрын
Why would you need to set the new tool from the stock If you have the old(broken tool) tool value and the new tool value? You can basically use any point on the machine. Just figure out what is the difference between old and new tool and then type in the correct value.
@3DMachineIncPowderSprings
@3DMachineIncPowderSprings 7 жыл бұрын
Our goal as machinist is to be efficient and use good work practices. The more efficient you become the more value you are to an employer. I suggest you do a time study and find out which is the most efficient and safest way to set tools. The old saying, “they pay me for what I know”, doesn’t hold much weight if someone not as smart is getting more parts done. "If a task is once begun, never leave it till it’s done. Be the labor great or small, do it well or not at all."
@sabr430
@sabr430 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, will you please provide link for videos- how to set G54 and G55, which Mark mentioning, THX
@1bulldog998
@1bulldog998 7 жыл бұрын
very nice video thank u for takeing the time
@akselvaks5371
@akselvaks5371 7 жыл бұрын
Use hand control feed, so you can use 1% rapid instead of 5% (while set up). You can crash even with 5%.
@leizhao1387
@leizhao1387 Жыл бұрын
very good video
@gorgorhaadka8824
@gorgorhaadka8824 4 жыл бұрын
Great help for me thanks.
@edmararan3112
@edmararan3112 Жыл бұрын
Is it correct Set my work offsets against my spindle end face? It works for me i only set the new tool length pre- set gotten in my zoller machine
@dinhtruong2601
@dinhtruong2601 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Thanks for your helpful video. could you make another video explain about G43.1, G43.4 and G43.5.
@haasautomation
@haasautomation 5 жыл бұрын
Dinh Truong Le - Haas controls will use a G234 for Tool Centerpoint Control, simulataneous 5-axis, and a G254 for DWO Dynamic Work Offsets, 3+2 indexing 5-axis work. We have a couple videos that touch on this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqmzm3tqq5qce8k and kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH_alYuEoduoe6M . For more information, check out G234 and G254 in our Haas Mill Manual which you can download from our website, www.haascnc.com. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day
@nasrahmed6236
@nasrahmed6236 9 ай бұрын
Great job thanks
@buixote
@buixote 6 жыл бұрын
I would send it to 1.0 instead of .1 then you don't have to stop it before the end of the block and use the "eyeball mic". Run the program and test it with your 1-2-3 block.
@cadcamokulu
@cadcamokulu 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/baTKf62mrKqirLc
@bryanlyons770
@bryanlyons770 4 жыл бұрын
I use 3.002 or so. This allows higher rapid speeds to save time while remaining safe because there is plenty of time to hit slide stop in the event of an error. The 0.002 avoids chipping a carbide tooth while being close enough to identify a math or measurement error. 1-2-3 blocks have so many uses.
@christopherflores3452
@christopherflores3452 5 ай бұрын
great video
@papiloon
@papiloon 4 жыл бұрын
what type of touch off tool you using in the video (4:07), i didnt find any of this type
@gt2rsGuy
@gt2rsGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SteveN-bh3wv
@SteveN-bh3wv 5 жыл бұрын
I know this may seem obvious to everyone, but if you want to go to an INTEGER location, you have to type a decimal point after the integer. So it would be G0 X2. If you don't put the decimal point in, it assumes you meant .0002. Just wasted 90 minutes figuring that out.
@DiegoHernandez-xv2cb
@DiegoHernandez-xv2cb 6 жыл бұрын
Buenos videos, gracias por compartir tan valiosa información
@stevemccluskey7102
@stevemccluskey7102 7 жыл бұрын
Not that it matters much in this application, but Interapid specifies 12.5 degrees from the work surface to be the most accurate. Mitutoyo specifies zero degrees. In the video it looks like about 45 degrees. Again, youre just using it as a reference, but I always shoot for the optimal angle for best practice.
@vitaliisydorenko8541
@vitaliisydorenko8541 Жыл бұрын
Очень хорошое видео спасибо !
@kirubealasfeha6363
@kirubealasfeha6363 5 жыл бұрын
that was a nice presentation
@tnilccoyle
@tnilccoyle 7 жыл бұрын
Gauge length is best if it looks like 100mm long tool offset will represent this , hav nt seen this done like this in 28 years
@mirzoni5331
@mirzoni5331 3 жыл бұрын
I measure offset little bit different. First i set z0, but my z0 isnt 0 there is some number there. I set z0 with my renishaw taster, then i jog my tools to that z0 and measure the tools. Why you do that in opposite order, first measure tools than offset. Hmm
@saadaouiradhwen3255
@saadaouiradhwen3255 5 жыл бұрын
Very good
@michaelbytner9346
@michaelbytner9346 Жыл бұрын
I miss here the feed control knob (potentiometer) on the control panel (also for the rapid movement). Please don't tell me, HASS uses buttons for controlling the Feed value?
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