How to: Set Tool Length and Work Offsets - Haas Automation Tip of the Day

[@haasautomation]

For details on setting Tool and Work Offsets manually, using an Offset/Height Gage or 123 block, check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2imqKSgipeqnZo - Mark

[@Saki630]

I dont even own a wrench, but I am here learning about G-code and setting up a million dollar CNC machine in the middle of the night.

[@edastro7707]

Depending on the Hass, it could be a $55,000 machine in USD.

[@Thatz_Dustin]

Yeah, not a million bucks. They're about the cost of a luxury car +- a few bucks.

[@professorjim6874]

VF3SS is $82K

[@rosendoaraque2202]

It’s a good profession , learn it

[@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104]

New they are probably 40-80k. But used they are much less. Far from a million dollars

[@kamachine8663]

Loving these Haas Tips videos. Just to share, I always set my part zero from an empty spindle. Then each tool has its own length value that equals the distance between the spindle and the part.

[@nicholascourtney8228]

why would you want to use such a method of touching off? it's only good for that setup. if you tend to use the same tools over again with different job, wouldn't you have to retouch them all off becuase the z-position of your work it's gonna change? wouldn't it be better to reference them to the work table and then only add the z value for each work offset?

[@mikep3813]

May I suggest comping your tools off of a stack up on the table instead of on you stock? Once you start machining your part you have altered your comp surface and may be unable to add or change a tool and comp it accurately in relation to the existing tools.

[@jalalpakdaman4913]

The way that you set tool offset and work offset z values was amazing. I watched few videos about this subject but yours was by far the best and the simplest one. Many Thanks sir.

[@richmind5867]

why cant you just put everything in one video.. i just keep hearing to watch the other video

[@biged4485]

I think I just transported back to 1984 when you set all the tools off the top of the part. Do not do this. huge waste of time.

[@jimmyworkman7709]

I do it completely different.. touch of XYZ G54/55/etc first. Use edge finder/indicator for XY (depending on what X0Y0 is), I use the quill (the spindle without a tool) and a solid 1-2-3 block. My z value will always be negative in my work offset. Then for tool touch off, I have a standard usually set up that I find, take the difference machine position with that tool and my set standard and I have my tool length. I only do this in my shops old hitachi Seki machines. My shop also decided to get fancy and buy Reinshaw probes and tool touch off probes for our newer machines.

[@Eggsr2bcrushed]

I feel like 123 blocks are the easiest way to do offsets. put the tool lower then the block and jog up until the block just slides under the tool. then move offset 1,2, or 3 inches down depending on the side you used.

[@Eggsr2bcrushed]

nick real paper and shimstock are pretty shitty

[@nickreal8188]

Eggsr2bcrushed Good point, I feel that it is also safer

[@Eggsr2bcrushed]

another point is that when you go from .1 to .001 that you go a few click up first to make sure it registered and that you aren't about to start cranking the wheel and drive into the part.

[@ydna]

Using a 123 block is king. You can easily use any gauge block to slip between the tool and workpiece WITHOUT crunching the tool into it. and you know the exact thickness without pinching the block. Shim stock and paper is for manual mills.

[@chiefmachining7972]

I use .375 surface ground coin.. what does mean for me?

[@ryanpatton1795]

This may not apply to a lot of shops but heres what I was taught. I get a 2" insert mill with a known tool length. I jog that down and face off some material. I set operator Z offset to 0. I call up the tool I want to measure / blend. I jog it down and jog across the area the 2" endmill cleaned up. Go to .0001 and jog down until you see the finest dust particles. Add the operator offset to the length of the 2" endmill. Perfect blending everytime because you literally made the blend yourself. Thanks to the guy who showed me this.

[@219garry]

cellophane wrapper from a cigarette pack for touching off. Pretty much is dead on when you see it and feel it scratch. I always make sure i drag it under the whole end mill just in case one flute is a longer. You never know. We use a lot of resharpened end mills. Not always perfect.

[@dragonflyfab8982]

I like to always set tool length offset by going UP to a standard, not down. EG bring tool down to Z .900 next to a 1.000 block; increment up to Z1.000 until block slides under; add (-1.000). Prevents an early morning fat finger smash. Thanks Mark!

[@mikep3813]

Agreed. Our shop standard comp point is 2 inch block. Back off starting with .010 increments, then .001 then down to .0001s. Also, we never comp on top of a surface that will get milled at some point. Something happens along the way and you need to comp a new tool......and your comp surface is gone.

[@toddpick8007]

Yup 100% thats the way you should be doing it prevents crashes.

[@buixote]

I would send it to 1.0 instead of .1 then you don't have to stop it before the end of the block and use the "eyeball mic". Run the program and test it with your 1-2-3 block.

[@cadcamokulu]

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[@bryanlyons770]

I use 3.002 or so. This allows higher rapid speeds to save time while remaining safe because there is plenty of time to hit slide stop in the event of an error. The 0.002 avoids chipping a carbide tooth while being close enough to identify a math or measurement error. 1-2-3 blocks have so many uses.

[@3DMachineIncPowderSprings]

Mark, This is the first time I strongly disagree. You set the tool off of stock. Let's say that a tool brakes on the third part. The part has been faced. Now where do you set reloaded tool that needs the correct offset? Not a good work practice.

[@guardiangregory]

3D Machine, Inc. my co worker and I agree with the tool teach position. also, nothing was verified with precision, the facemill will have varying inserts, and any blends from the tools will be off from the start. 123 block from the table for tools, then sure an indicator to tell the Z offsets from tool 0

[@chiefmachining7972]

You use a taught tool to figure out the difference... say .020 then you would add .02 to the length offset

[@haasautomation]

3D Machine - Great comment! I agree with you, and I like the whole topic you brought up. I think a video on “Where do you set your Work Offsets and Why” is looming in the near future. As a rule (more of a guideline), I set my Work Offsets on billet parts (first Op) against the solid jaw, or center of the stock (easy for machines with probes), for XY, and on top of the FINISHED part for the Z, for just the reason you stated. For second ops I almost always locate and program off the part datum for my XY, where my dimensions are called from, even if that means rotating the part around. Even on second op stuff (locating on finished part), I usually program my Z off the top of the finished part. On castings I’ll program off the print datums for XY and Z (common Automotive practice). The part in the video was actually programmed with Z at top of finished part, not stock, but I didn’t want to add more math and other topics into this already long video. Thanks again for the comment. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-Day.

[@SUMOCAT86]

Why would you need to set the new tool from the stock If you have the old(broken tool) tool value and the new tool value? You can basically use any point on the machine. Just figure out what is the difference between old and new tool and then type in the correct value.

[@3DMachineIncPowderSprings]

Our goal as machinist is to be efficient and use good work practices. The more efficient you become the more value you are to an employer. I suggest you do a time study and find out which is the most efficient and safest way to set tools. The old saying, “they pay me for what I know”, doesn’t hold much weight if someone not as smart is getting more parts done. "If a task is once begun, never leave it till it’s done. Be the labor great or small, do it well or not at all."

[@JarppaGuru]

4:29 why? bcoz it wont make any sense anyway. tool lenght not machine movement from home position and -. tool lenght is actually tool lenght you can measure and its +. you not need remove or add that 2inch if you measure alltool this silly way. all are same. untill next part and one tool more

[@ProbotixPlus]

We do it a bit different, but we are a production shop, not a job shop. First we find the distance from the spindle face to the table, add back in the height of the tool setter gauge (2"), and store that in G57. Then we jump into G57 before setting the tools with the "tool offset measure" button (there is a setting you have to change to use the work offset for this). This allows us to throw a scale up next to the tool to sanity check the z height. We also write the tool length on the tool holder with a sharpie if we ever remove them, then key it back in when its reloaded. The only time we need to measure a tool is if the sharpie rubs off or we break a tool. We have about 12 tools that are always the same, and we cycle in the others (maybe 80 different ones) as we need. To set the work piece Z, we measure from the table to the work top with a dial test indicator (that G57 Z value - 2" + the measured distance). We make use of all of the G154 P offsets, comment our parallel heights, never pull our vises, and setup is almost nothing.

[@matthaushetzenauer2591]

This makes more sense to me than what Mark showed here lol

[@robzillian]

Awesome. Just landed my first job out of school running a conventional lathe. Main goal is to gain an employers trust and set-up these bad boys.

[@Oclb]

what are you doing now a year later?

[@LordOfChaos.x]

What are u doing now 3 years later?

[@vatandas1542]

Now an employer......

[@robzillian]

Shoot now Ive been through 3 cnc jobs. This last place is the hardest. Run my own setups start to finish and do some basic programming.

[@imbored742]

While setting tools off the top of the stock is quick and easy, it's really not an optimal solution. If a tool breaks and needs to be replaced after you've already faced the part you no longer have the same reference point to touch it off against. In addition any offsets set this way will not be applicable across different setups, requiring you to reset all your offsets for every job, which can be a pretty big time waster. You'd be better off using either an electronic or dial height setter to measure off of the machine table, then use your indicator to measure from the table to the workpiece the same way you measured from the G54 offset to the G55. You can also tag tools with their offset values when they are removed from the machine, then simply re-enter those values the next time you use that tool.

[@chiefmachining7972]

You use a taught tool to figure out the difference... say .020 then you would add .02 to the length offset. Its all numbers not that hard... Some teach from table with 1 2 3 block or 2 4 6 block some use top of the vise, and some use subplate.

[@imbored742]

You're better off using the table or a sub plate rather than the vice, for one depending on your use case the vice might not always be there, for another, the top of a vice's solid jaw isn't always flat or level. For me, I reference off of the sub plate, since it's basically a permanent fixture in my mill. Whatever you do choose as a reference point it should be repeatable, simple, and consistently available.

[@chiefmachining7972]

Same applies maybe they never pull the vise off? Maybe they order matched sets? Just depends

[@imbored742]

Never happens more often than you'd think. I'd still prefer referencing off of the table or sub plate. I'd only reference off of the vice if I had no other option, such as if the table or sub plate were inaccessible.

[@SUMOCAT86]

Why would you need to set the new tool from the stock If you have the old(broken tool) tool value and the new tool value? You can basically use any point on the machine. Just figure out what is the difference between old and new tool and then type in the correct value. And why would you re set all your tool offsets? tool lenght is tool lenght, You set a new zero point.

[@ShaneCollins-x9v]

Thanks for the great explanation. I noticed in the final code referenced you set your Z value to 0 on the G55 offset not 0.1, which would bring the tool down to the part.

[@hardeepbhatti5338]

i also noticed this, good eye

[@pedromorales7443]

awesome, this is almost how i give the class to my students, i'm going to add this video to my class.... thanks!!!! :3 :B

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[@samarthsavalia]

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[@weblogmovie]

You are a great teacher. Thank you ...

[@sushantmagadum4061]

you really amazing sir, i like the way of explained the fine details.

[@jasonbourne4865]

I was so confused by the tool offsets until I realized the machine was using inches! Great video! :)

[@millingcnc3517]

thanks for explanation.just share if i always use datum inside the program by using G90G10L2P1X0.0Y0.0Z0.0. and set the z value by: mc position - offset value

[@JohnPlant90]

Back in the late 1960's I operated a NC 3 axis machine. The systems and the hydraulic drives became unreliable and the machine was sent off for a retrofit to electric drives and a Allen Bradley CNC system. For a while we relied on tapes made by our Production Engineers - until we needed to make something for ourselves - we soon learned to programme it. However, for ages we programmed the centre path of the tool and controlled size by cutter diameter. Eventually the penny dropped and we leard to programme the part and use offsets.

[@darrenvosper634]

Do like the probe, touch all tools of the table (not the work piece) on a 1-2-3 block on the last tool (whilst at the "z" on the 1-2-3 block) set the "operator" "Z" origin move up and touch on the top of the work piece and that "z" value is what you set your G54 "Z" too. Then if a tool breaks or you want to use multiple offsets all you have to do iis set that "z" value and all the tools that are in the machine are ready for action. Also handy if you work on parts that have no "flat" "z" plane after you start machining....

[@embeeh7738]

Thanks Darren. We do the same method zeroing all tools to a touch probe mounted on table top. Any new tool will be touched to the probe regardless of any work offsets. The key is to measure the height from the touch probe to any part Z zero and register this to the corresponding work offset Z value. If the part Z zero is above the touch probe, that makes the work offset Z value as positive. For plates thickness less than the probe height, the work offset Z value is set as negative.

[@Buciasda33]

7:17 I would rather do the Z = 0.1 outside the part, then jog X and Y closer to the part.

[@charlesswanton7293]

Exactly. Common sense stuff 👍

[@cobraframebuilding]

This system works, but the tool length offset values don't represent any useful number. I prefer that the WCS Z values are the actual distance from the spindle nose to the part Z origin, and that the TLO is a correction for the actual length of the tool past the spindle gage line. On my Bridgeport CNC, TLOs are negative values to make this system work and the TLO is the same for a given tool no matter how you set up the WCS. Tools can stay in the carousel for months or longer without ever being touched off this way.

[@mattstoner2145]

Positive gauge length is what most shops should be using. All your standard tools will work on any job. Just measure gauge line of the spindle to work piece and have a presetter to measure tool length. You have G54 - G154P99 so why not use them.

[@armandoivanzamorabravo3190]

Matt Stoner we always use positive offsets you can use the same tool in different jobs as you tool offset is same as tool length

[@cadcamokulu]

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[@rickys369]

🙃 z10 z2 single line straight to .1 just using feeds switch mad man haha thanks so much straight on the haas now your vids are awesome 👌

[@MotorsportsX]

This is not the way I do it. You should be measuring the difference in length between tools and use a refernce tool (or probe) to set your zero Every time

[@RockerGuy0001]

I believe it is automatically compensated by the machine. Older machines you have to do the math.

[@72oldscutlasssupreme]

I run a Trak DPM7 and I use a dedicated toolholder as a reference off the table with a 4" height gauge, then set the other tools in the same way.... gives you the difference in toollengths, then take the last tool measured and find Z off the top of the part.

[@cadcamokulu]

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[@jarisipilainen3875]

quick tip. your G54 never should be 0. your tool lenght should not be 18 INCHES. from resting face to tool tip?. your tool lenght was machine z to top of part. now make difrent part with same tools and have fun lol.why measure tools from part that will change. why not measure from KURT VICE that not chabge 99.9% tool height = machine z max travel - current machine z - measure block height(kurt vice) tool lenght will be allways same. if you measure tool from part it allways change. after you measure tool you can go measure G54 with using that G43 H1 stuff I BET you have made program that face that part MINUS something that is so wrong. that should be z0 lol

[@zuhaibchoudhary4635]

hello sir I am making my own micro edm machine . my edm machines cuts 0.003 in a second I want a feed rate in accordance to this I am unable to get this feed rate at the lowest that I can get is F=1 . which is not compatible for me how can I get much less feed back. I want a feed rate of F=.18(MM/MIN)

[@ronaldchirinos6377]

Mark and Haas team, fist of all I have to say I think all your videos are really great and all of them teach basics and important things, congrats for that, but I'm afraid this video isn't what I was expecting for. Technically speaking you committed a mistake, it fairly works but it´s a mistake at the end because you're saying to your machine that all the tool tips are positioned into the spindle bore and the stock surface is in the home position what is not true. If an operator do this for any reason and in the middle of the batch he gets a pre-setting tool and he runs the process being confidence of everything is good, it's going to get in a trouble because the machine is going to crash with the new tool and he wouldn't know what was wrong. In milling machines the length offset must be always in positive values because it's the distance between the spindle face and the tool tip, on the other hand the work coordinate must be in negative because is the distance between the spindle face (being in Z home position) and the stock surface, as a result, if G54 is Z-16.85" and H1 offset is 2.5, the machine knows it needs to move Z-14.35" for reaching the Z0. of the work piece. I hope it can help you to understand why this is not the right way, please don't misunderstand my intention, just I want to help. Regards. Ron

[@maxselna5193]

I agree with you in a sense. Positive tool lengths approximately represent the "physical" Length of the tool, depending on variation in your probe calibration. This is nice and easy to mentally digest. Despite that, saying negative tool lengths is the "wrong" way is to say it won't work well. It can work beautifully if the tools are touched off to a repeatable reference (not raw stock). When setting your work offsets, the z values must be the respective distance from your tool touch-off plane to your work offset plane. If you see the tool offset as the machine position when your tool tip would coincide with your tool touch-off plane, then it follows that you would shift your work offset relative to the tool touch off plane to send the tool to your part origin when z0 is commanded. Positive tool lengths are more time intensive and error prone to set up if you are touching tools off in this manner, and don't gain you much. I despise when people think there's only one effective way to do something. It's all about how you manage your setup....

[@trazy38]

A lot of shops don't have a probe . I work in one now, so I use 1-2-3 block and edge finder. I'll try different methods mentioned. The owner would rather buy boat, houses, Cadillacs opposed to updating machines

[@123kkambiz]

Your boss must be an IDIOT

[@albertbrain8080]

Incorrect if you subtract a negative from a negative you get -10 - (-.004) = -10 + .004 = 9.996. The correct way to state this is "add a negative number to a negative number will increase the distance or -10 + (-.004) = -10.004. Basic math!!!!

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[@endlessinnovations6518]

Great Video as always, just one comment..On your last point where you are showing the two programs,the G54 and G55...You show the program for the G55 going to Z0.0 not to Z0.1..Just in case someone copies those exactly, the G55 will go right to the top of the part..Just FYI..Thanks for all the great Videos !!! Cheers

[@chiefmachining7972]

No he didn't

[@haasautomation]

Endless Innovations! Thanks for catching this. It looks like the graphics, at 11:13 in the video, show G43 H06 Z0, instead of the correct G43 H06 Z.1. It looked good when we were explaining things at 9:51 though. We’ll try and fix it up. Thanks again. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day.

[@tnilccoyle]

Gauge length is best if it looks like 100mm long tool offset will represent this , hav nt seen this done like this in 28 years

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[@akselvaks5371]

Use hand control feed, so you can use 1% rapid instead of 5% (while set up). You can crash even with 5%.

[@FIREGHOST195]

But when you said to put -.004 from -18.4860 and then the number changed to 18.4900 so then it wasn’t subtracted 🤔 it was added not subtracted rite? 🤷‍♂️

[@derryafandi7717]

So g55 for a new part, and g43 just for tool nice vid

[@muhndkalil9234]

such amazing video very usefel thank you for this video☺

[@musicmomentz8213]

Thank you very much now I'm working on this version machine it will be most helpful to me

[@SteveN-bh3wv]

I know this may seem obvious to everyone, but if you want to go to an INTEGER location, you have to type a decimal point after the integer. So it would be G0 X2. If you don't put the decimal point in, it assumes you meant .0002. Just wasted 90 minutes figuring that out.

[@garnetedwards1705]

Hi sir thanks you for that veido great work you are very informative on that veido.

[@JarppaGuru]

3.47 thats not tool lenght. its distance from home z to top of part using this tool. you get tool lenght by calculate . total table distance- current machine location- block height use to measure. table distance dont need match it can be number that machine maker has said, but it can be corrected in some imagenary number so your tools get tool height that make some sense. if you can measure tool height out side machine and in machine same. then you nailed your numbers. you cant measure that tool outside of machine and get 18 inches xD. how get that imageny machine z lenght. could use 100 block and measure without tool from spindle flat spot between notches table z= machine z+100m. both formulas i gived need fixed - and + bcoze machine coord are - so add you need + to make number smaller (close to zero) xD. now mark is better and teach 0.5 people correct way. oh too late. now they all have tool lenght absolutely no sense at all leghts LOL

[@solidplanet642]

Hi Mark. at /11:11/ min, the G43 of G55 shouldn't read like : G43 H06 Z0.1 ; (?) Thank ou& GOD bless You

[@jimburnsjr.]

Bud I really enjoy your videos..but you should remake this one...show the standard philosophy of tool length from the table...this topic shouldn't be mysterious....thanks to your company most of us would be machinists make little more than a Subway sandwich artist...the rent is so damn high no bodies wages can do what wages are designed to do....if Haas wanted to take over the nation's industry and dumb down the machinist to make manufacturing more profitable...the least they could have done was back me telling the employers to get a non legislative handle on the land Lords, Carpenters, and banker...including but not limited to the idiots in rv parks charging 800 a month for a fn parking space with a water and sewer connection.

[@Codypod]

What I would love to see is the evolution of “Haas control”...from their 1st ever to absolutely the newest!!!! That would be amazing (operator control)

[@JarppaGuru]

im here again LOL. you are doing it wrong. you measure tool height as just machine coordinate not any clue what tool height is. and use part that change, use your clamp that never change. now all your tool on magazine is correct you just add what you need measure it same place. but better find your toolheight correct way. toolheight should be same value you can measure outside of your machine. now you go heimer tool and take Z LOL. make no sense. it not actually matter how you measurre if they all done same, but it wont work when new part come and need ad new tool and use other on magazine. unless machine calculare something you not tell lol like this workpiece z is measured and known point and measure tool give exact lenght not machine coordinate like u said lol

[@JarppaGuru]

7:24 well you had G54 0 when you measure tool ofcouse your no sense tool height work LOL. even they would be some numbers on G54 z it still would work. unless that number not correct relative to total machine distance tool height will be no sense length. think you could measure tool outside machine from taper flat side to tip then enter that to tool lenght then measure G54 and VOLA. or that could be place where you measure tools(tool setter) it has some coordinates they not 0 LOL

[@linasas4992]

if there i the only way to measure tool offsets i am happy i have no haas in my job and hope i will not get any in the future...

[@michaelbytner9346]

I miss here the feed control knob (potentiometer) on the control panel (also for the rapid movement). Please don't tell me, HASS uses buttons for controlling the Feed value?

[@TinkuTank-q4s]

Very good understanding n specially prog n penal key zooming.thnx sir keep making vedio we will appreciate u by like n subscription.

[@RockerGuy0001]

Thanks for doing these educational videos, Haas.

[@norcalmanufacturing9510]

Ive always used a .100 jo-block and going positive. That way I dont chip my tool.

[@nelsonbrum8496]

I used to use a 1-2-3 block and a .250 dowel that way. Set all my tools, then on the Fadal, global edit all tools -3.25" to set zero to vise ways. Now I use a 1" Mitutoyo zero setter. Big multi-insert face mills/Shear Hogs I still use the block and dowel to be safe.

[@Kevin-gq2qs]

From my experiences, G54 is typically dropped -.01-.03 for stock variance. Then G55 is typically set at your finished part thickness. With whatever needs to be cut off set in the linking parameters “top of stock” in the program. And 0.0” for the depth. Or it’s fat fingered in the machine to adjust your depth of cuts.

[@SqueegeeBeaverRacing]

I’ve always preferred setting the Z location off the face of the spindle nose and then have the tool lengths represent the actual offline measurements as if using a tool setter. I had one owner tell me that a Cnc machine is a very expensive tool setter and is better served making chips and not measuring tool lengths. So it kinda stuck with me. His machines, his rules. But I saw the benefit. Especially when replacing worn or broken tools or setting up the next job while the machine is still running the current one

[@yourijuteau]

That's the worse way to setup tool length. I can't beleive that a company like Haas show this method made for school beginner. What happen if you change the jig? Your tools are related to nothing but this setup. The manual way should give the same tool length that the tool setter does. I like you machines but for this tip I can not undertsand why you show that this way.

[@energiasolaroff-grid3544]

Hello friend, when the letter X is inserted, the command alone creates the zero along with the X, how do I change that which is the parameters.

[@bachdiepnguyen934]

Thank you .

[@AliSbahi]

Amazing sir . If you give us a look about the interface of your machine . For example how can we load a file etc.... and thanks alot by the way

[@mannycalavera121]

thanks for this and all your other demonstration videos. as an apprentice CNC Machinist information and habits like these really help with further understanding of the concepts.

[@JarppaGuru]

4:26 you dont need subtract that. you only measure no sense tool lenght anyway. all tools has same no sense height any way LOL if you measure G54 then then - that shim on cage height

[@mirzoni5331]

I measure offset little bit different. First i set z0, but my z0 isnt 0 there is some number there. I set z0 with my renishaw taster, then i jog my tools to that z0 and measure the tools. Why you do that in opposite order, first measure tools than offset. Hmm

[@yobaniperez1190]

excelent CNC lessons, high quality videos. CONGRATS!!!, thank you

[@keithhansen3963]

Thanks Mark, I was hoping to see you set H offsets with the Haimer. Any chance you could demonstrate that procedure.

[@chiefmachining7972]

You do the same as tool.. just jog it down under the haimer reads "0" then hit tool offset measure..

[@ncsteinb]

Thank you for making this easy to understand. I'd been overthinking this concept for hours...

[@gepettoXinc]

Stone age ? Who works like that today ?

[@kathireshkumar4531]

Many of people working like this only.. Its really good information

[@250smacks]

This guy looks like Andrew Tate, excellent instruction ! Thank you sir

[@amandac47]

This video has been so helpful and clear to understand, where I work I have been doing Cnc turning, Cnc milling, multi-spindle turning, Grinding and Broaching. and know I have a better understanding. Thank you!

[@edmararan3112]

Is it correct Set my work offsets against my spindle end face? It works for me i only set the new tool length pre- set gotten in my zoller machine

[@XxRICHARDITOxX]

Hola d e nuevamente link OF BOOK CNC HASS please

[@hori377]

After machining for 30 years trying to learn programing cnc......

[@AnkitKumar-es2gu]

Why you call minus zero point O seven but it is minus zero point zero seven???

[@JoeGabaldon]

? Don’t you have to have T6 in the program with the H6 so the Hass knows what tool to grab?

[@ydoucare55]

This guy has dreams at night of telling people he touched-off his tools.

[@Vodichka9]

I don't wish to sound disrespectful. This method works, but it's very inefficient, In my opinion. 1.If you use the work piece to set the tool offsets, you are probably leaving extra machine stock which you will likely mill away in the first roughing op. Good bye reference surface. 2. Coming down onto paper (inaccurate) or shim stock is very time consuming because you have to use care during the last .020, or so, of Z- travel. Before I had tool setters, I used to put a 1/2 inch dowel pin on the reference surface, bring the tool down next to it, and a little closer to the work piece than .500". Then I would jog Z+ in .0001" increments while rolling the dowel pin under the tool until it just cleared. Using the tool setter on the work piece as you demonstrated is quick but defeats the purpose of a tool setter, IMHO. We set all our tools with the tool setter directly on the table. That way, it doesn't matter who set the tools on what job. They will all work with other jobs, after setting the Work Offsets. To set the Z-offset, we set one tool using a 1" gage block on the work piece, come down a little past the gage block with Tool N, then jog Z+ .0001" increments, while pushing the gage block slightly against the tool until it just clears. At that point, subtract the machine Z from the tool length, then subtract the gage block thickness from that result. You then have the +Z offset to enter in G54, or G55, etc. For example, machine Z at exactly 1.000 inches above the work piece= -13.2940 Tool length= -18.1490.18.1490-13.2940=4.8550. Gage block=1.000. Subtract that from 4.855 and enter the result (3.8550) into the Gnn Z offset.

[@haasautomation]

Fake Appellation - That’s a terrific method of setting tools. A lot of shops choose a single-point to touch off all tools, like you suggest with a touchoff tool and the table. Because of the variety of ways different shops setup tools, we chose to go with the most basic method for this first video. We hope to come back with another video showing the method you mentioned in the near future. Thanks for the comment, people will appreciate your experienced perspective. - Mark, Haas Tip-of-the-day

[@Vodichka9]

Thank you, Mark. I just subscribed.

[@rcuevas76]

Learning this trade i do the paper method or shim on vertical mitsubishi cnc mill or on the horizontal haas cnc mill

[@matter9]

the 2nd code snippet shows z0 ----> z0.1 - watch out!

[@vlad55775]

парни. как называется штука на 4:19 ??

[@ОлегКузнецов-щ4к]

Штучка интересная, и себе хочу такую.

[@vlad55775]

@@ОлегКузнецов-щ4к как хоть называется??

[@ОлегКузнецов-щ4к]

@@vlad55775 понятия не имею, но на работе, она бы, пригодилась. А то лазер не работает, приходится под фрезы монолитные привязывать или на касание.

[@vlad55775]

@@ОлегКузнецов-щ4к такая же фигня))

[@ave649]

You have a second part in the other vice. Why didn't you explain how to setup this 2nd part. The z height may also be different, as well as the origin point.

[@markterryberry4477]

Hi. Check out 07:34 in the video, and we also have a link to another video which talks more about this, just above (pinned link at top)

[@mikedotleb]

Very helpful video series. Subscribed!

[@denismorend3884]

Hello good afternoon Mark, I run a HAAS VF6 50 Center, and we have a drawback that we cannot return to the milling sequences on the ERGAL SAE 6064 aluminum plate that we are milling, with a NX Siemens cadcam, there are many sequences and due to a power outage due to the storm last night ..., the program had to be cut off and entered with a flash drive to memory and followed the milling process for the matrix being manufactured, we would like to know how to find the sequence that was lost due to the power outage, I will also send you the manufacturing number of the HAAS VF6 50 Center that we have here in Cutral-Có province of Neuquén, Argentina ... and the other thing I forgot that we wanted to know how to open the door of the machine if we give ok to the chip-FWD, and it turns out that it does not let us open the door to check the milling, my profile appears on LinkedIn, best regards Denis Morend.

[@salvadorebertolone]

i do something similar sometimes, but i'll jog it close, then mdi a g01 g54 z3 f10, double checking its g01 f10, put my finger on the red button, hit go and then check z3 with a 123 block.

[@brilliantyoungminds8111]

With all due respect, you are using the Fine Lever Dial Gauge wrong. The tip should be at least as Flat as possible to the part your measuring. You should try measuring from point A to point B with the dial tip as near as Flat and with a higher angle just to compare. Just my 2cents.:)

[@piter_sk]

our probe tool slot is named "GOD-SAVE-YOU", that´s the first thing you need to do after getting the probe into the revolver!

[@Shieldsz]

Why would you set your tool offsets on a workpiece instead of the workbench? Setting the tool offsets ontop of the solid bench would always be the same result but a workpieces size and height might vary.

[@villavan]

This is basics.👀

[@Bob-sf9ht]

I was running machine shop take care of the different kind of CNC machines, in current, I will try get the machine job again hopefully everything going well. Thank you .

[@abdelrahmanzainelabdeen5493]

GOOD JOB I NEED YOUR SUPPORT MACHINING A PART HOW CAN I SAW YOU THE DRAWING

[@nandikamail]

VF-2-i cant rotate spindle at 750RPM or lower while door is open as shown in this video. Setup mode also unlock position. Any solution ?

[@codyesplin1509]

as per g codes list wouldn't a g44 be a positive offset?

[@stevemccluskey7102]

Not that it matters much in this application, but Interapid specifies 12.5 degrees from the work surface to be the most accurate. Mitutoyo specifies zero degrees. In the video it looks like about 45 degrees. Again, youre just using it as a reference, but I always shoot for the optimal angle for best practice.

[@scottlog220]

Ah your paper must be .002 thick. Nice

[@nelsonbrum8496]

I really wish Haas had a global edit feature like the Fadal I ran at my last shop. I set all my tools off the vise ways using a 1" Mitutoyo zero setter. On the Fadal, I could go to the tool offset screen and subtract 1.0" from all my tools at once. Instead, I have to go tool by tool to do it on the Haas. Using the vise ways makes all my Z offsets positive: parallels + part/stock thickness. Easily verifiable with a calculator to check for tampering. 1.375 part thickness sitting on .50" parallels? Just add it up. Boom, 1.875, Z offset done.

[@michaelmorrow9927]

Hello, maybe this is the best place to ask lol. I do production runs, some of the same jobs for years with the same programs etc "Haas vf-3" . Have had an issue for weeks now and not sure why. all of our parts are coming out .018 to .020 larger now only on height "Z" . Checked entire machine, checked this issue and verified it is happening on every program so we have to adjust our main z height for our parts. Could this issue be a wear offset somewhere that i may be missing ? we have also made sure that head is in same position in z just in case and there has been no change. I am clueless at this point, however i am not the only one running this machine, so Either other person or i may have inadvertently changed an offset somewhere that is affecting all z values during a cycle. Any help is appreciated.