Hack game plan! Don't lose golden threads when upgrade red patterns. Hero-Wars: Dominion Era

[@PatrickNeufeld]

I felt the accuracy was the best one to upgrade first and got a +1 for 16.5%. This is worth 20500 if I choose to unravel, but I only have 10 in inventory to remake it.... not worth it to unravel. When I collect enough, it would be a good idea to unravel and retry so I could have extra thread for a change as this is a very scarce resource in game.

[@PatrickNeufeld]

I agree that you will get a lot of golden thread when unravelling the patterns. The issue I have is that this method assumes that you have the patterns required to rebuild the pattern. Pattern counts is very low even with more maps coming out, so it will take 6 to 8 weeks, maybe longer to be able to rebuild the red pattern. I believe 32 is required to make a red. I should also mention, that if you do roll badly on the upgrade, then you have the opportunity to remove the pattern which would cost emeralds. So yes, it would save you 5k emeralds not equipping it, but the benefit of having a red pattern for all the arenas, guild wars is not worth the $2.00 in emeralds you would save by not equipping it.

[@dedaherowars]

Yes, you can use red pattern and then spend 5000 emeralds, but this trick will help you to safe golden threads for budluck upgrade after red level. Main idea not just to keep red pattern in the bag, idea is not to upgrade it more then 1 time after red.

[@eddc4505]

This is the big issue I agree. It is that when you unravel a red, you lose all the patterns that you built to make it red, and so you have to rebuild again, and you won't be able to do this straight away!

[@aml7758]

Nice, very smart, thank you!

[@D3BEP]

Great idea, will try

[@johngalt921]

Perhaps you should have mentioned that we should make sure we have enough patterns (which take time to acquire) to start leveling a flag from scratch!

[@destonwong2577]

For most players upgrade and socket patterns to purple. Farm the rest of patterns to red and above. Another $$$$$ sink for whales. Golden question is can I defeat teams on max flag patterns using counter teams with just blue or purple patterns?

[@dedaherowars]

sure you can! check table, it is ~10% between purple and red ~max level. And just for 3 stats. So enemy will have

[@aml7758]

If you use a counter team, you can defeat the team with twice your power, so the flag should not be a problem. The problems arise when we use similar or non-counter teams

[@destonwong2577]

Can u share what is the best flag and patterns for tank + dante + iris setup?

[@dedaherowars]

depend also with what pet. Most strong players will say that it will be pet flag and i will agree with them. But i anyway will use red flag, coz pet flag with Axel is not very good.

[@azeriztatime5120]

Thank you. after I watched your video. I accept to lost all patterns and all are unraveled even get 15% red flag for stack up golden thread for the future. I think Golden thread need a lot it cost 18750 for one ultimate red flag, so it better than unravel none ultimate red flag now for me. but I think weaving pattern event come every month so in a month you can get 3650 from evert 500 from chest flag = 4150. maybe 4 months for one ultimate red flag. now I have 90000 golden threads i will not lost move to chestflag. ** I am new player PVP rank 300 so i dont care the flag today **

[@dedaherowars]

Also with this stratagy can be done other way. As you saw, i spend 18750 golden threads and got red+5, so i can unravel in for 30500 golden threads. So i can have free 11750 threads for free, but got just 7.4% for it. And with 100% i can get all i spend for 1 upgrade ufter red.

[@aml7758]

Wait a minute Deda, after you got level 5 red pattern, why don't you unravel it and try again and again until you get level 6?

[@dedaherowars]

I don't have so much patterns. For level 6 i got just 2%, so need ~50*32 patterns for red+6. so i will just stay with +5 or +6. Other i will unravel, even +4 ^^

[@aml7758]

​@@dedaherowarsThank you bro

[@maksparamokhin6761]

То есть с роспуска можно получить больше нитей, чем вложил? Приколько, конечно, но только если иметь мешок узоров в запасе. А так на 1 красный надо год собирать. И нужно их 6 штук (лучше 9).

[@dedaherowars]

Да, именно. Начиная с красного+1 можно получить 100% вложений или больше, в зависимости от удачи. Я вложил 18750, а распустить могу за 30500 (но на это 7.4% было). Но вопрос в том, нужно ли распускать предпоследний уровень или нет, т.к. шанс его получить довольно маленький. Хочу ли я быстрее сделать 6-9 красных узоров или мне важно получить меньше красных, но более высокой прокачки... Да, это стратегия не на 5 минут, а на длительное время. Но именно по ней получится собрать 6-9 узоров красных прокаченных уровней чуть быстрее.

[@miguelpanta]

but, i am not sure I understand. you get the golden treat back, but what happens with the input patterns, are they lost? or put differently, what do you have when you unravel a red pattern (apart from the golden threat)?

[@dedaherowars]

i get just golden threads after i unravel red patterns. Yes, you need much patterns for it, but you anyway unravel rey patters for upgrade others. So in my way i can get just more free golden threads and i got in this video free 11750 golden threads if i unravel it.

[@MakaayYazhnam]

If I get red ultimate +1 on first try and I try to upgrade again - can I get lower level? Do I keep the +1 one or does it change to red ultimate?

[@dedaherowars]

you can't get lower level, but you can get same level and lose 3750 golden threads.

[@MakaayYazhnam]

@@dedaherowars ok, so if I get +(2,3,4,5) red pattern level it can't be brought back on a lower level again. it can be same or higher...thanks

[@Yevhen_Lymonov]

Я не понял. То есть при неудачном апгрейде я могу распустить его и вернуть нити, но паттерны же я не верну. Для следующей попытки апгрейда мне нужно опять собирать паттерны. Так и в чем тогда хак?

[@dedaherowars]

Сейчас ты распускаешь узоры(паттерны) серого цвета на нити. Идея в том, что этого делать не надо будет. После того, как прокачаешь красный узор 1 раз - следующий раз у тебя будет рандом на улучшение и ты можешь просто так потерять 3750 нитей. Поэтому если ты прокачал неудачно( на 1-2 уровня), то этот узор далее не нужно улучшать. А если скопилось достаточное кол-во других узоров - то этот неудачный нужно распустить на нити и попытать удачу с другими. Хак в том, что ты не будешь никогда терять 3750 нитей при улучшении. Да, понадобится много узоров, но для красных уровней золотые НИТИ БОЛЕЕ ЦЕННЫЙ РЕСУРС, чем сами узоры. А распуская например 2-3 уровень можно будет заработать дополнительные нити. И таким образом соберешь максимальное кол-во красных прокаченных узоров быстрее, чем другие при равном кол-ве доступных ресурсов.

[@Yevhen_Lymonov]

@@dedaherowars Ясно, спасибо

[@gugu3037]

normalno :)