EXCLUSIVE 992 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 vs BMW M4 CSL w/ Randy Pobst - Cammisa’s Ultimate Lap Battle

[@saksris2]

Quality of Hagarty content is just world class!

[@chuckgrenci6404]

You had me at Jason and Randy.👌

[@117johnpar]

It always comes off that everyone involved with the video had the most fun they could have making it. From editing, to driving, to Cammisa'ing

[@robertshelton3796]

Yo, Hagerty, will you please give us a making of of one of these

[@aadilfaizal853]

Hats off

[@brandonchism6960]

@@robertshelton3796 you’re on to something man!!! I’d love to see a behind the scenes. I’m sure it’s a pain in the ass for the crew though.

[@FaresDjebbar]

The fact that Only one driver is driving the three cars, and how they're composited together is insane, the camera movements...Jason being there at the track... World class.

[@stevenwilliams1805]

Yeah it's some really trick cinematography and editing.

[@rdiamond655]

Love this video, I hope it is now going to be a series. Better than the CUDRR in my opinion

[@robertper4102]

I've been doing a deep dive into how they might have pulled it off. I really think it's all practical. The cars just idling along the track and Jason delivering lines. If look before everyone of those shots with him and the cars on track, The preceeding shot does a speed ramp and give us the felling of a slow mo shot. Fooling us into thinking the cars are shot separately in slo mo but in reality they are just moving really slow. If you look around the 8:30 mark you see it not Randy driving the Vette.

[@robertper4102]

I've been doing a deep dive into how they might have pulled it off. I really think it's all practical. The cars just idling along the track and Jason delivering lines. If look before everyone of those shots with him and the cars on track, The preceeding shot does a speed ramp and give us the felling of a slow mo shot. Fooling us into thinking the cars are shot separately in slo mo but in reality they are just moving really slow. If you look around the 8:30 mark you see it not Randy driving the Vette.

[@hreeman]

This is hands down the most interesting one-lap coverage ever made in any media. Nerdy, funny, informative, and attention-holding. I don’t think anyone else has gotten that combo right. Hats off to Jason, Anthony, Randy and crew. This is a moment which’ll go down in history

[@cooperastro2690]

Couldn't have said it better

[@FrancoisTCS]

Agree 500%!!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thanks so much, Hreeman, I’m so lucky to be a part of these fantastic shows!

[@lascucristian9531]

On point explanation of the same thing I wanted to outline. Felt totally in the middle of the action 😮

[@NWSanta]

It's such a well fit cast with some amazing editing, camera footage, chase cars, special effects. It's all really well done!

[@mndlessdrwer]

The people they have doing the videography are ridiculously skilled. This was a real feast for the eyes and all of those references to Randy racing himself were really necessary to remind us that this was composite footage and the video editors really are just that talented.

[@wickedgummybear3104]

Yeah that's some beautiful editing and video creation.

[@pubbiehive]

insane editing and videography on this, incredibly impressive

[@Whomecouldntb3]

The explanation of each corner and what each car was doing or how it felt during the corner was so dope.

[@maldridge7630]

"dope"? are you a drug addict?

[@993mike]

The GT3’s power disadvantage but still doing the faster time really is enlightening. I see newer guys all the time on track and club racing days who always think power equates to better lap times - it most certainly is not the biggest factor

[@Luke-cb3ly]

the editing is insane. watching Randy and Adam Sandler doing what they do best is always satisfying.

[@lorddoobsworth144]

it's all in the hips

[@ASV9399]

😂😂😂

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you, it is fantastic to team w Jason and Hagerty team

[@lorddoobsworth144]

@@randypobstofficial nice work 💪

[@mfennell70]

Adam Sandler! Awesome comment.

[@philspaghet]

Holy crap THIS is the kind of content I wish the big car magazines would cover! Not just going over lap times but the differences in sector speed and the characteristics of the track! Gotta say the CSL really impressed me here!

[@porschelover04]

Wish we could've seen Cup 2R's and warm weather. Seeing it below the CT5V-B on that leaderboard is just plain wrong.

[@mcfero1]

They’re busy pushing Ev’s down our throats.

[@JordonPatrickMears11211988]

Gran turismo needs to team up with these guys for the next game or do a dlc. Hell I'd pay good money if it meant supporting the channel too.

[@stavroshadjiyiannis6283]

The BMW's time would have been a hell of a lot closer to the other 2 with proper tires.

[@lizparks1662]

Wtf is impressive about it? It's over 100k and got smacked

[@_ButtarSaab_]

I'm curious to see how the CSL would fare on the optional Cup 2 tires compared to the stock MP4S it had in the video.

[@TechnicaEnterprise]

and a massive wing like the 2 cars - im sure with similar aero downforce, the CSL would have been about .2 - .3 behind the Corvette, or right with it. the GT3RS is a track focused car to begin with.

[@patthonsirilim5739]

cut about 2-3 seconds from it laptime it should be roughly about the same a the corvette or slightly slower.

[@yayaya1193able]

I’m sure it would fair better but the csl is like $150k, and you can buy it right now for that price. The gt3rs are going for $500k + right now. Awsome video but the price point of the cars is so far apart I don’t know why they didn’t include a not expensive car to even it out.

[@michaelblaes9847]

I would be far more interested if they didn't do this with such a huge temperature difference. They would have both been 3 seconds faster without that difference. Why do they film on days they know will have a huge effect on the performance?

[@lft4ded]

​@@michaelblaes9847 But why not? You don't always get to pick your race days and the weather is ever changing. Plus, with these three cars who can wait to race to them. They can always run it back on a warmer days and that's more great content for us. 👍🏾

[@joshuafoster1772]

Randy is such a humble guy that I forget how talented of a driver he really is.

[@oaktree6333]

Randy is a boss the BIGGEST BOSS!

[@ziggyfreud5357]

Totally

[@CaribbeanGTR]

These two make a great team. I used to really miss Top Gear with Clarkson and his two Musketeers, but honestly, the tech and humor here are just as entertaining.

[@elektrofunkzz]

​@@oaktree6333 the FINAL BOSS

[@chrism869]

indeed

[@GTSCarLife]

Hagerty, Jason and Randy just continue to raise the bar. What an outstanding way to demonstrate the differences between these fantastic machines. Bravo!

[@DFWreal]

Well said!

[@DFWreal]

Dude, just checked out your channel. Nice work, informative and different from the rest. Keep at it!

[@MTechn1k]

I have to give credit to Motor Trend for starting this off. But hats off and major applause to Hagerty for taking it over, and taking it to the next level.

[@PositiveVibes-b7m]

GT2RS may be the best car ever

[@TheSakuragihanimichi]

And Henry...?

[@northridgenation]

It's a good day when a Jason Cammisa episode launches!

[@MidnightBenz]

Absolutely

[@LiljamezZz]

@@MidnightBenzong

[@caszzxs4104]

Facts!!❤

[@kw2519]

Most Underrated car journalist.

[@ConvexRook]

Not just good, Ecstatic!!!

[@sibis4608]

Man the editing! Between the switching of the cars and switching Randy's, I have no words to express the joy of watching this for free on KZbin

[@deang8910]

I like how they turned a 1:24 lap into a 15 minute race break down 😂

[@joeracer302]

You might enjoy Allan McNish’s narration/explanation of a lap at Le Mans, it’s from the documentary Truth in 24, but you can find the ~3min clip on KZbin.

[@tsriftsal3581]

A little like an NFL game. :)

[@johnd5805]

yea yea

[@shaykosovac8722]

Analysis

[@yimpyoi9808]

and it managed to stay entertaining throughout

[@bobspacon]

The editing, the storyline, camera views, sound, everything. It's all amazing. Very satisfying to watch.

[@FrancoisTCS]

Fully agree!! 👌🏼👌🏼

[@fteoOpty64]

Jason's finest yet!. This is exhilarating!.

[@papawoody9597]

Randy is a national treasure. Crazy talented behind the wheel, and a genuinely nice guy.

[@ucrain4971]

Ngl he's kinda boring and you are over glorifying his driving

[@nucleargrizzly1776]

@@ucrain4971 How many course records do you hold?

[@hellothere4342]

​@ucrain4971 can you drive as fast let alone consistently fast?

[@papawoody9597]

@@ucrain4971 Your comment might have some value if I had said anything about him being charismatic. But I didn't, so it doesn't. I met him in Indy in 2014. He noticed my Brumos Racing t shirt, and stood and talked with me for a good 20 minutes. He was driving the Muehlner Motorsports Porsche in GTD, the car had a mechanical issue and didn't take the grid. That's about as shitty a weekend as you can have as a driver, outside of wadding up a car, and he was still out talking to fans, taking pictures, and signing autographs. As I did in fact say, he's a nice guy. As for his driving, when you've won the 24 hours of Daytona twice, been a factory driver for Porsche and Audi, and content creators reach out to you to evaluate cars, maybe I'll give a rat's ass about your opinion. Until then, ngl, I really don't.

[@robertlazimbat5943]

@@ucrain4971 you’re lost if you think you’ll ever be a quarter as good as he is. If u want to say he’s boring then maybe he’s not you’re cup of tee but he’s a great driver. Greater than you’ll ever wish to be

[@IndieRockability1]

Hagerty taking KZbin by storm there are no words for the insane amount of editing and production of these videos, not to mention the amazing cast.

[@zaahidrahman]

Hagerty really went out of their way to hire top notch producers, editors and writers. Cammisa and Randy could not be more perfect for their roles in this video as well. Might be the best automotive production team on KZbin. 3k+ glowing comments in the 3 days this video has been up says a lot. Great job, team!

[@biollante879]

Cammisa/Pobst is a winning combo no matter the situation. Adding 3 of the best cars of today are just the cherries on top

[@cgmoog]

Cammisa/Pobst/Esposito is a winning combo no matter the situation. (fixed it for you)

[@randypobstofficial]

@@cgmoog @Biollante879 director Anthony Esposito is the critical off-screen better half to Jason. Brilliant team. I’m so lucky to ride their coattails.

[@drivingpsyche]

@@cgmoog and don’t forget to add 2 more Randy’s for more craziness (or headaches to editors of this episode).

[@yoker3032]

Today, my standing ovation to Jason, randy & other member of this team. Hats off sir 👏🏻 🎉🎉

[@dan725]

Why doesn’t this have over a million views? The production, the hosts, the explanations are all supremely high quality that tops any other car media team in the world.

[@DiaperSNiFFER]

It does now this channel is absolutely 💯 amazing

[@discomau5]

I wanted to say the exact same thing😂😂😂😂

[@biggrock2396]

It does now, good things come to those who wait

[@viktorbihar5384]

Probably people that assume he has a bias towards certain brands. Don't get me wrong, I think he likes German cars better, but even I don't know, and even I am making assumptions right now, lol.

[@vagabond8460]

13:45 “Trying to keep up with myself… Now I know what all those other guys were going through at the races all the time..” That has to be the BIGGEST flex ever said

[@lareau6]

This was the best lap battle vid ever. No staged tie, no staged pass, full of information on the cars and the corners. I hope they do a couple of them at different tracks.

[@sethl8905]

Its still a staged race that didnt happen with fake lap times. Most of the dialog is meaningless.

[@x1tekja]

I was just wondering what the outcome would be at road America or Sebring

[@mbferrari308QV]

and I was wondering how the BMW would do if it was not on STREET tires!!@@x1tekja

[@Nick22257]

Everyone involved, I appreciate you. Incredible content you are making here.

[@mikebridges20]

Absolutely top shelf videography and editing! Cammisa and Stigs 1,2, and 3 were perfect in their roles.

[@y0u5uf]

The production on these videos is staggering. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of work that goes in to these and we get them for freeeee. Thank you..

[@JoeJacksonGT3]

You don't say ?

[@5699CAR]

The fact that the Z06 kept up with the porsche and was only .6 seconds behind has me really excited to see what they do with the ZR-1

[@kris54241]

Pretty remarkable considering the Z06 is literally half the cost... If not even more than that.

[@willratcliff6111]

Agreed!

[@993mike]

The Porsche will be able to do this all day. With the reported quality and reliability issues of the new Z06, I’m thinking this car is going to be a headache in comparison. GM truly did make an American McLaren - both the good and the bad

[@jabariphillips8855]

@@993mike The issues with the Z06s will be long sorted out before the next ZR1 is released. And C8 Stingrays launched without any major issues in general either so I wouldn’t compare McLarens reliability issues with Corvettes.

[@ronretired282]

@@jabariphillips8855 This might be good reading for you concerning reliability issues of Porsche vehicles particularly the GT's: "Problems with the 991.1 GT3’s 3.8-liter engine were apparent right from the start. Shortly after the release of the car, Porsche issued a recall for all GT3 models in March 2014. That notice came as a result of loosened screw joints on the connecting rods. The issue ultimately caused two cars to suffer engine fires. Porsche replaced the engine in all 785 GT3s built up until that point, and adjusted the design to prevent further issues. Unfortunately, that wasn’t the last time Porsche recalled the car for engine issues. Just a year later, 12 more GT3 received entirely new engines after a valvetrain issue related to finger followers was discovered". I think most of us car enthusiasts know the story of the GT4 issues.

[@Zygrene]

Randy + fast cars + cameras = perfection

[@cooperastro2690]

Facts

[@minicooperfan16]

The amount of detail and depth you were able to add to a simple comparison of lap times is exactly why this channel is one of my favorites on KZbin. Amazing work as always, Jason and team!

[@AronBagel]

Please, please, please make this a travelling series! The deep dive into the track layout is incredibly entertaining, and I would love to see you tackle other racetracks like Laguna Seca, Zandvoort, or Suzuka!

[@geraldgflem]

YES!!!

[@ilikeexxs]

It's times and videos like this when I miss Laguna seca... I agree, take it on the road, I'd love to see these cars duke it out again and again!

[@slushyslushslushbruh]

Zandvoort and Suzuka might be an issue, ngl. But if they pull it off, they'll be gods.

[@Duskconqueror]

​@@slushyslushslushbruh Nah, they'll be able to get a permit for Zandvoort.

[@slushyslushslushbruh]

@@Duskconqueror Probably. Japanese circuits in general... kinda now sure how that goes. They're like... very exclusive in weird ways.

[@lapamful]

The race breakdown is pure gold. Thanks Jason!

[@petkokrushev3840]

that was Adam Sandler

[@ZephyrCorsa]

These live breakdowns of track and performance data are INSANE- Huge props to the editing team.. ⚠️✅

[@geraldgflem]

YES! My company produces film. These guys do a great job!

[@Pewnhound112]

Excellent feature, brilliant editing and videography and Jason’s narration is on point as always. Putting the CSL on what amounts to be one step above all-season tires against two cars on what amounts to be race slicks with some shallow grooves is a gross miscarriage of justice IMO (obviously I’m biased).

[@lorddoobsworth144]

INSANE production quality 🤯

[@OhCar_Magazine]

Never fail to impress. The production quality on these videos is incredible. Thank you so much to everyone involved for creating such spectacular content!

[@someyoungguyjohnson7239]

Are you getting paid? Damn.

[@OhCar_Magazine]

@@someyoungguyjohnson7239 haha, yeah nah. Just can appreciate how work goes into producing a video of this quality.

[@mura0]

This is a Porsche 992 GT3 RS level of editing, production you have established here.

[@Chicken_cocknballsoup7376]

from now on Porsche will be used as a synonym for perfection

[@MrBinnie824]

It's got to be a very high bar when the second place (and first loser) is a Z06 with the Z07 pack.

[@randypobstofficial]

@@MrBinnie824 Between us, I think the Vette tires actually froze the night before. The Porsche had far more grip, especially braking on bumps.

[@MrBinnie824]

@@randypobstofficial shame, was gonna bet for the Z06 to promptly clean up.

[@aaronvector4750]

@@MrBinnie824 Lmao the Z06 makes less downforce than the GT3. it's not a GT3 RS competitor.

[@robcrossan6274]

The editing is awesome. Also, i love that the Corvette remains a competitive track weapon all this time later. I remember reviews of the C6 Zr1 and of how wild it was, uncontrollable, extremely fast and hunting down far more expensive cars. The C8 Z06 is much more civil and does it with less fuss. Awesome car

[@shashikiransundi]

0:32 This part where the cars are revved when Jason mentions their engine sizes is so awesome. It's as if the cars have come to life and they're responding to their call with joy and excitement.

[@CONNNE]

Production/Edition is next level.

[@shashikiransundi]

@@CONNNE Yes sir!

[@drew8131]

Wow! This is probably the BEST track battle I've ever seen. Unreal.

[@IDv8I]

When entertainment, editing, knowledge and reviews come together to create perfection. That's what a Jason and Randy video on Hagerty gives you. We need more boys.

[@bazadam6635]

Goosebumps watching these cars. This is the content we need all the time. I wonder how the BMW would do with better tyres and a bit more aero though.

[@bilback9855]

I've never seen a track video perfected so much like this one good job guys 🔥

[@tescoshortage]

The Corvette not only matched the SVJ, but was half a second back from the Porsche. GM did a phenomenal job with the Corvette!

[@Bimmer_Bill]

Lol yeah ok. 0.6 seconds is a long ways back (9 car lengths) in an 80 second lap. Not only that it’s more consistent easiest to go fast. Stick with the bang for the buck argument Vette guy.

[@solidsteal]

Agreed! And even though I see them all over the roads now.... evey single one still turns my head.

[@BGBATKA]

@@Bimmer_Bill hater much? The C8 is still the best car money can buy

[@ripinpieces8387]

@@Bimmer_Bill mid trim Vette btw that is the heaviest vehicle there and doesn't have an active picnic table on the back of it, zr1 and zora soon. Euro loyalists will still never give credit to anything that isn't German but that's expected from someone like you. Binmer_Bill.

[@nick_kilgore]

While I think his comment was kinda dumb as a Porsche fan myself given that it’s the third fastest lap they have tested I would never say any GM product is the best car money can buy lol. The C8 is a great bargain (excluding the 100+k markups for the z06) but certainly not the best car.

[@Rice_Cake_]

I love the corner-by-corner breakdown. Really helps to appreciate the characteristics and tuning of each car

[@infidel900rr]

Jason and Randy are great together! 👍 Outstanding production!! thank you.

[@alex_and_er_g]

Epic work, team. The fact a Corvette can just about keep up with a GT3RS these days is insane.

[@Cakebattered]

And thats the Z06, not the ZR-1.

[@jojajo2707]

It's slower even with 145hp more and z07 carbon trackpackage.

[@kris54241]

@@jojajo2707 And still literally half the price... 922 gt3rs is 250k base plus options... the Z06 is 105k plus maybe 15-20k in options. So pretty remarkable for the Corvette.

[@jojajo2707]

@@kris54241 we talkbabout performance, not price tag. The Porsche is an investment like all gt 3 or gt2. A vette isn't, maby the Super old one like C1 or C2.

[@kris54241]

@@jojajo2707 I'll add to this... Since it's only about performance and not price tag..and it's an "investment". Then why would I bother with a 992? I'll get a Bugatti, or a Lambo, or Ferrari. Your comment is idiotic. Price to performance is a real thing. 😂🤡

[@professorsergio3819]

What a freakin' video. God, what a time to be alive. Props to the RS and Z06 for being this fast in the blistering cold. The ZO6 earned so much respect from me for being a luxury car inside with leather everywhere, heated and ventilated seats, 14 speakers with some of them in metal and costing way less than RS and being only 0.6 secs slower. Damn

[@McNasty43]

This is a good point. If GM did a Z06 "Le Mans" or "Daytona24" edition with all of the fat stripped out like the GT3 RS, I'm sure it would make up that .6 seconds and then some.

[@toxicgracie3772]

​@@McNasty43no one would buy a stripped down Corvette 😂😂 Vipers were Americas stripped down sport cars and there's a reason they're not around anymore

[@RandomWrongDeletion]

@@toxicgracie3772 Explain the Z28 Camaro then, there’s 100% people who would buy a track Z06 😂

[@toxicgracie3772]

@@RandomWrongDeletion is the z28 actually stripped down? I always thought it was just a camaro tuned for the track with a bunch of aero and a z06 engine

[@noncog1]

@@toxicgracie3772 z/28 was a hardcore track car. Came fairly stripped.

[@MatthewGaither]

Incredible job. The editing is superb. Porsche is second to none when it comes to chassis and brake tuning but that Z06 is pretty amazing as well considering it costs half as much as the Porsche.

[@pdwhalen]

Brilliant production! All you guys are doing stuff NO ONE is doing. Educational. Funny. Cinematic. Great FX. I'm a fan . You got me with quality.

[@joshbayly00]

This gave me goosebumps. The production quality that Jason & Hagerty are currently producing is second to none. Well done to everyone involved, and thank you for giving us such sublime content.

[@Counz223]

The quality here is stupidly fantastic.. what a production and such amazing cars. The explanation of these corners makes me feel like even I could set a good time in the GT3 RS 😂

[@warpspeed9877]

You owe it to BMW to come back with Cup2Rs. Not expect it to win but it will help it immensely in the bends (where it needs it).

[@quackman]

Definitely in better weather too. to be fair to those ultra-racey tires on the other cars, bit less grippy bc of the cold.

[@njholt1]

I do wonder how close it would be...

[@jr1885]

Most definitely needs a rematch. I think the M4 would give the Z06 a run for its money.

[@TheilliterateLibrarian]

@@jr1885 a m4csl ran a 7:16 Nurburgring time. A c7 z06 ran a 7:12 Nurburgring time for perspective. The c8 z06 is expected to go sub 7 and be head 2 head with the regular 911 GT3. Z06 is most definitely a faster track car than the m4CSL

[@henzo7087]

@@TheilliterateLibrarian We need honest comparison. New 3.0 CSL would be even better BMW. This all track times for BMW are crap and no one is pushing to to the limit on Goodwood track is only behind GT2 RS MR

[@gvs376]

So, you'll need to spend an extra $108,000 to gain a 6/10 second advantage over the Z06 at Willow Springs. That's $18,000 for every TENTH of a second. And it's probably more like a $150,000 difference with all the typical Porsche options. Completely insane!

[@Hankynopanky]

😂 true , but the GT3 RS will also appreciate in value like crazy wouldn’t it ?

[@rodmunch69]

@@Hankynopanky some people want to drive their cars, not put them in their garage for 30-years. Nothing wrong with that, seriously, but the Vette might be 'this close' to being affordable for someone in the upper side of middle class, who wants a daily driver that is fun as hell to drive and to take to the track. Where as the Porsche, that's literally just a track day car that will be rarely driven - and is built for those who collect cars and rarely drive them. Again, nothing wrong with that, people can spend their money however they want, but they're really not aimed at the same market.

[@Eduaardojc]

ur paying 100k to be the faster car, not to be the that car that holds up with the gt3 every single year bc it seem that corvette every year aims to be faster than Porsche but they haven’t made one yet or seem to make one anytime soon…

[@brudel001]

@@rodmunch69 why would you think that all Porsche owners put their cars in garage? Porsche is one of those rare type of brands that people actually drive alot since they don't suffer from things like poor reliability when driving hard, overpriced maintenenace in every like 5000km etc. or massive price depreciation over few years. In my hometown theres '"Porsche Ring" or in other words official Porsche approved circuit and when theres a event theres always huge amount Porsche owners with both older more regular and affordable models like 4S, Carreras etc. to brand new GT3 RS'es and full blown track built cars. Corvette is pretty much a financially bad decision for the type of people who shouldn't spend that much money on car in the first place.

[@rodmunch69]

@@brudel001 hey kiddo, once you get a job, pay some taxes, buy a house, etc - then get back to me on financial advice.

[@arivette2010]

.6 seconds behind what is essentially a cup car for the streets is pretty remarkable. All of these cars are monsters.

[@Jesppyy]

Especially with that moment of underwhelming braking in the ZO6 right at turn 3.

[@MS-vt7fz]

This is just next-level journalism and competitive vehicle comparison. The turn-by-turn breakdown with Randy on track and Jason on track is movie magic. Great job guys, keep up the great work!

[@jarrocabanes5226]

I this is the most visually and technically demonstrative lap time analysis video I've ever seen. So awesome as always, Jason, Randy, and Anthony! Keep these high-quality, high entertainment value videos coming! And thank you, Hagerty, for allowing them to do so.🙏🏾

[@owenschifferli9479]

This is the best editing I have ever seen in any car related program - ever. Huge congrats to the post prod team, you made something special here.

[@DroneStrike1776]

Brilliant stuff once again Jason, Randy, and Hagerty. I really wish BMW got the R tires for the CSL.

[@bokiNYC]

Same 👍

[@burritomaker69]

I feel it’s a bit unfair of a comparison. The tread rating difference between the tires on the CSL and Chevy and Porsche is humongous. The tires alone could easily make a 2 second or more difference.

[@RPM12000]

This guy REALLY knows how to make the best videos on this planet and how to emphasize a car over it's advantages and disadvantages

[@koruki]

Very impressed with the Z06 from a Porsche fanboy here

[@craigthescott5074]

The fact that the C8 Z06 is much less expensive than both of these cars is a win in itself. When the ZR1 comes out nothing will beat it for the money.

[@rodmunch69]

I've owned two Corvettes, and three BMW 4-series - and frankly it's amazing they can tune the 4-series chassis to the point that it can stay in the same ball park as these two. I will say, however, the 4-series is a fantastic handling car for its size, very precise, but I'd never think in a million years it could be tuned to this point as the Vette is so much lower to the ground and you're in much more of a sports car driver position. Some amazing engineering going on. If you could have just one of the two, it would be tough to choose if the price gap wasn't there.

[@craigthescott5074]

@@rodmunch69 I agree with you completely but I’ve always been a Corvette guy. I’ve owned 8 total I still own 5!! For me the Vette especially the Z06 has no rival for cost for performance. Plus I can work on them. I would be lost if I had a BMW.

[@rodmunch69]

@@craigthescott5074 Yeah, indeed, however I will say on value, a used 4-series, they're pretty cheap - and at least in Florida, Corvette's have been keeping their value way more than in the past. But the BMW is a luxury coupe, the higher and more upright driving position is the biggest thing I don't like about it - unless I have to drive in the city. The Corvette's are so low, they can be difficult to drive when everyone else is in a giant SUV (as I'm sure you know). On the track, certainly the Corvette is the pick without question - while the BMW handles amazing for its size, it's still a pretty big luxury car. In the hands of a pro-driver it's not as big of a deal on the lap times, but actually driving them, the Corvette, in a track environment is just more fun to drive. As for working on them - I'm clueless on both, but certainly a Corvette would be easier to get parts for and should be cheaper to deal with. But I really never had any issues with any of them, thankfully, so I haven't had to worry about that aspect.

[@Alexander-so3zv]

@@craigthescott5074 Look outside of America and you'll see that nobody drives a Corvette because it's unpopular and why would you even care about cost for performance? Hardly any of the people who buy such cars actually race them.

[@craigthescott5074]

@@Alexander-so3zv I would disagree even if you don’t race your car, a super car or sports car is about performance that’s why most people buy them. I’ve owned 8 Corvettes I still own 5 of them. I could buy a $300K Euro car but why. Cost is high, maintenance is ridiculous. I recently bought and built a 2007 Z06 with 30K miles. I put $7000 of upgrades in the engine and exhaust. The car has 700 plus HP and Is a supercar for $47,000. And it gets 21 mpg. You can’t even buy an entry level Porsche for that!!!

[@lfa1908]

Absolutely fucking brilliant! The cinematography, the commentary, the cars!!! Perfection.

[@AutosconIvanChavez]

Hagerty just keep getting better and better every single time, amazing!

[@cameron1776]

Genuinely world class content coming from Cammisa, Ant, and Pobst! This is a perfect addition to the portfolio of yalls work! Please please please keep making this stuff!

[@stevenjasper2165]

I love how he explains the advantages in different parts of the track. This is such a better review of a track focused car than anything else out there

[@SpineShank7]

Randy, Jason, and their production crew really are the best in the business. This is the most interesting and entertaining track coverage I've ever seen... and I have seen a lot. Nice work!

[@jasonnosaj2099]

I love when the overlay of each car. It really gives you the perspective of the difference in time> Like the ghost laps

[@danieldickerson4838]

I mean, the fact that the Z07 is literally a single *hair* behind the damn near race car with number plates 992 GT3 RS on Willow Springs is a testament to how much the engineers at GM nailed their car. Hell, the Z07 was even a hair quicker than both the GT2 RS and GT3 RS at Magny Cours club circuit a few weeks ago, and was only a few tenths behind a Senna. Different year that the Senna was run, yes, but that’s still *mightily* impressive for an N/A track car. The 992 GT3 RS is a monster, and it’s quickly beginning to grow on me in every facet, but it’s amazing to see just how close the Z06 is to it on track, especially when many were claiming that the Vette would stand no chance against it. Wonderful video across the board.

[@CLSTRN911]

The Z06 is way faster than the RS on the straight line that’s why the corvette is close. The power has a huge influence in laptime. Look, the 992 GT3RS has 2 times more downforce than the 991 GT2RS, a better chassis + better brakes but the GT2RS is still faster on the leaderboard because of more power. Anyway, the Z06 is still an impressive car !

[@BboyVReck]

@@CLSTRN911 now we need to wait for 992 GT2 RS.

[@huyaomanh9814]

That time around Magny Cours circuit is not comparable since it did not drive by the same driver with the same driver the GT2RS is hard to beat in any circuit. But it's still impressive, compare to 992 GT3 RS it has 152 hp it make up all the time it loss to the Porsche on the straight. It close but look at it closely, it's not. But hey the Porsche is twice as much as the Z06, such a bargain for a great track car.

[@danieldickerson4838]

@@huyaomanh9814 Agree with everything but the “close but not close statement”. Jason himself said that the Z07 was extremely close to the Porsche at the wrap up portion of the video, that it very nearly kept up with it in near freezing temperatures.

[@95mushroom]

Do you have a link for that?

[@scotthill9445]

Your production and video editing is second to none. If you have a team...well done. If you have a single person editing...give them a raise! Mind blowing. Jason is so good in a class of his own!

[@Karto86]

This... is just on another level, never achieved by anyone by now. Thank you guys, had a blast watching it!

[@fahadm8260]

These guys just took car videos to another level

[@norwegianblue2017]

Considering how many weight-adding standard features the Z06 has, it is amazing it came within half a second of the ultra-light and minimalist of the RS Porsche. It would be cool if Chevy made a lightweight version of the Z06. Hats off to the BMW for even coming near the lap times of the other two, considering it is a coupe and not a true sports car.

[@sportbikejesus]

There’s a half mile long corner with a MINIMUM speed of 127. The z06 has more power. The gt3 still won. 0.6 seconds only seems small when you do a single lap. Do a full race and then see how big the gap is. I’m not hating. The z06 (c8) is the first chevy that didn’t make me throw up. It’s a good car.

[@downdemon2378]

​@@sportbikejesus you say it "won" but in order to deserve that qualification it must be near in price. It isnt.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

​@@sportbikejesus the GT3 RS has an active rear wing that opens up in the middle to reduce its drag, and it weighs 500lbs less than the Z06 and makes about 150hp less. Their power to weight ratio is almost even with the Z06 having a slight edge, and the GT3 RS has 30% less drag than the Z06, so that more power argument is invalid at high speeds, then there's the fact that the Z06 had a brief braking issue in one of the corners caused by a false sensor reading in the brake by wire system. A 0.6 second gap considering all that is impressive to be that close

[@TRX25EX]

​@@saltyfloridaman7163it sounds car problem than an excuse for Z06 to me

[@markw9512]

@@TRX25EX What car u drive, video game boy?

[@Gtrjerry73]

really impressed with the production value of your videos the clever editing and the way you overlapped the cars to compare is awesome. great video

[@Fasteddiebreakshearts]

🏁🏁🏁Probably the only track focused video I’ve ever watched from start to finish …Great job Jason and Randy you’re a legend ❤😎🤙🏾

[@benbixby]

Yeah totally true they make this very entertaining

[@IamKonstantin]

Right?? I just couldn't stop watching it cause it was so engaging!

[@QUANATLL]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you so much. Cammisa and team are genius and artists.

[@IamKonstantin]

@@randypobstofficial omg randy that was epic. Thank u again. Hope to see u again in another episode

[@EvoXfreak]

Hagerty is by far the best Car Review channel out there. Absolutely thrilling footage, narration and video editing. Keep it up, I love your content!

[@randypobstofficial]

I gotta agree, bias or not!

[@randypobstofficial]

And thank you, EvoX

[@snakerb]

Hats off to the crew. The filming, editing, etc., is astounding!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you! Our editor Rob and director Anthony Esposito are first class

[@wagagagaggag]

Never been a corvette fan, but damn it’s quick

[@mrblackbond]

Dude the quality content offered here is insane!! I used to think TopGear was the pinnacle but this has surpassed anything my imagination could have conjured! And I dig Jason as the host!

[@Kembole]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@tdhvlogs1]

Love Jason’s explanations. World class editing. By far my favorite channel.

[@mastercarclub]

That Z06 is INSANE, but I'm really surprised with the BMW results, I already expected the GT3RS to beat the faster, but I wasn't expecting the Z06 to be that close in a very short course with curves with ZERO-G jumps and I wasn't expecting the M4 to be that faster in the middle of these cars that were born for tracks... Always amazing videos on that channel, I will be me in the near future in my Portuguese Lenguale.

[@randypobstofficial]

BMW just needed Cup 2 R’s as well, but could not get them in time. Great car w huge power, too. Thanks!

[@sillimilli3802]

​@@randypobstofficialIt would have lost still though..

[@mattyoz0]

The Z06 is insane?😂 silver lining.😂 yeah, it needs way more hp to still be slower.

[@JStryker7]

@@mattyoz0 it’s a completely different type of car

[@Homerlovesbeer2]

​@@randypobstofficial Why couldn't tyres be independently sourced from Michelin or tirerack though? It's such a shame to have great content let down by simply not having the correct (equal to the other cars) tyres for a timed track review. Otherwise keep up the great content 👍

[@ayyylmao2525]

I would love to see more lap battles! I love the drag races but something about a hot lap just feels awesome!

[@jameseli5782]

This takes the '70's & 80's Car & Driver tech comparisons to an amazingly cool new level! Love these battles!

[@robertper4102]

DOOOOOD! The edit on this episode is killer. I'm a filmmaker and I'm trying to figure out how I could shoot that. Great job you guys! Giving all other car shows a run for the money.

[@brandonchism6960]

freakishly fantastic film yet again by Anthony, Jason, and the gang at Hagerty. Hands down, this is the most in depth and interesting take of a turn by turn lap shootout I've seen in media. Continuous stats throughout the vid, high definition shots and editing (Anthony you rule), great angles, awesome graphics showing the "racing lines" (shout out to Randy), and epic narration dialog by Jason!!!! Thanks for the work you all put into these projects of love.

[@anthonyesposito4872]

Thank you! Seriously, means a lot to us.

[@brandonchism6960]

@@anthonyesposito4872 wow, the legend himself!!!😲 You’re welcome man. I’m just glad I’m able to consume your work. You guys are a gift to this obsession we all have with cars. Please keep doing what you’re doing!!!!

[@GregoryPinto-s3g]

I've watched a gazillion track racing sports car shoot outs and this one is the best! By a country mile! The three cars being measured over each turn or straight as a set of separate facts and figures and positioning relative to one another is compelling and clearly, the most clear demonstration of how fast cars perform around a track. Explaining how different sections of the tarmac affect and the demands they place upon the cars is inspired. Not sure I've ever seen that before. The result is fascinating track coverage by three amazing cars driven to their maximum by an incredibly capable driver. Massive win guys. Thank you.

[@acerimmer8338]

I hate hyperbole on "how amazing this video is", but my god, this was incredible. Going thru each section of the track, talking about each car and its characteristics, and having all 3 together to show distances, is absolutely the most in-depth but not over-technical, I've ever seen. Awesome editing and content.

[@randypobstofficial]

Thx a million, Ace. A great production team, led by Cammisa and director Anthony Esposito 👍👍👍

[@air-headedaviator1805]

This is the first real indef analysis I’ve gotten of the Willow Springs track, helps put into perspective just what it demands and how the best of the performance vehicle world have to tackle it

[@randypobstofficial]

Cammisa and director Anthony Esposito and team 👍👍👍

[@speedracer2please]

These videos are INCREDIBLE. I normally don't care about "expensive car goes fast" but you really hit it home with the high-end vfx, info, and humor. Also if you consider price, I'm pretty proud of the Corvette!

[@joefries7046]

waiting till the ZR1 comes out...

[@CalebDiT]

If it's anything like previous Corvettes, they are as unsafe as they are (relatively) affordable.

[@RandyJM21]

I feel like the corvette is probably a better street car as well , no ? More comforts and compliance etc and less full blown track special even if it is the track special C8 which don't matter for this test but still notable , I have no experience with either but I believe that is the case . One thing I know for sure is the Z is more streetable for grocery getting and GM makes pretty big concessions in design to make sure even the most hardcore car could be your only car and serve as a GT car as well as sports and track . The obvious consolation for Corvette fans butt pain over the loss, is the massive cost difference . Porsche wins as far as confidence and manners as RP states . I guess corvette can claim acceleration which many actual buyers covet even in a car built for turns but it should with the power difference. I would be fine with a non zo7 car for street which is what most buyers should get unless they do in fact track the car , base base C 8 Would be fine although wide body is nice which kinda means, for a lot of regular people who just want to have a cool acceleration tool the E ray is the stoplight street brawler BUT losing the note is a tough sell .

[@joefries7046]

@@CalebDiT never heard that about them before

[@cashmoneycockburn9502]

@@CalebDiTevery sports car is unsafe you better stick to a Prius

[@SinCityPhoenix]

Incredibly well done tribute to the great Willow Springs with wicked cars. Great video guys and gals. Thanks for making it.

[@Hbg3013]

honestly the side angles, the fast going shots, the drone shot everything was perfect!!!!! just perfect! give the editor a porche.

[@barbarasanders2017]

The editor would absolutely love to have a Porsche!

[@Hbg3013]

@@barbarasanders2017 yah indeed 😄

[@chucky104]

i get SO EXCITED for when these videos are made! AWESOME Job Randy, and Jason!!

[@kylegilman6497]

Jason, this video was fantastic. I absolutely love the camaraderie with Randy. Randy proves over and over again how amazing of a driver all three of him are. Side note, imagine the CSL with a wing and the same R compound tires!!! I don’t think it would keep up with the other abbreviations but I think it would close the gap by a lot. Keep these videos coming, I’m glad this one found its way into my algorithm. I’m headed to the carmudgeon show channel next!

[@chrism869]

with better areo and tires, it would be a different animal

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

The Gt3 rs is on another level.

[@rahul_2321]

992 GT2RS is going to be wild

[@joshuapounds7646]

Porsche will reportedly cap off the current 992 generation of the 911 around 2026 with the return of the GT2 RS nameplate, this time with hybrid technology in tow

[@Sm00thieK]

Wild,........but not as wild as the Mustang GTD.

[@The.JZA.]

I love the way you broke down the track into segments talking about how each car did and where they were relative to each other. Really highlights the phenomenal performance of the GT3.

[@sebasnu1]

Holy molly, the quality of the editing it's just insane, keep that amazing job Hagerty; Jason & Randy as always an incredible combo

[@animaze8043]

Very interesting battle - and props to Randy for making the cars come in laptimes so close. It is clear, however, that Randys abilities make the ZO6 and CSL look a bit deceptive. The people who buy these cars likely won't be able to push the cars as hard and avoid going off track. The porsche is much more mild-mannered and would be easier to drive on the limit.

[@magnusbae]

Any normal person wouldn’t be able to post the Stig’s lap times around the Top Gear test track either.

[@jeffwill4923]

We will get a chance to see a lesser driver lap GT3 RS at VIR with C&D next yr. Z06 has already set a time this yr. Could be a nail bitter because second half of track is technically where grips is favored over aero.

[@Tuberuser187]

Superb editing and presentation, the composite shots of Jason "walking around" the slowmo shots of the cars around the corners, then each car layered around the others was amazing. Randys driving and Jasons presentation where slick, Hagerty keeps raising the bar on automotive videos. The cars also are great, for me the Corvette with that engine and its slightly better availability appeals the most.

[@harrycee656]

Great video and format. This generation of GT3RS is unrivaled for the price. Yes it is twice the price if you can even get one, but like they say the last 20% takes 80% of the effort. The engineering and tuning time or took on every subsystem is incredible IMO.

[@inmortal131]

True gt3 is acceptable but the price is over too.

[@randypobstofficial]

The DOWNFORCE is race car real in a street car. Only thing close is the Viper ACR-X. Thx Harry. I agree on the 80% to 20% ratio.

[@rickowens8660]

Tremendous content.The fun but extremely informative narration makes this so enjoyable to watch and listen to. Narration is so entertaining. Don't change a thing!

[@zak__21]

This felt like a movie! A perfect masterpiece . Period

[@MrElpajita]

Without a full lap. Ok