Haig's Phone call

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@s.sestric9929
@s.sestric9929 6 жыл бұрын
Haig sweeping the toy soldiers into a dustpan and throwing them away was a brilliantly trenchant commentary on his command.
@mortanenni
@mortanenni 6 жыл бұрын
S. SESTRIC I just learned about Haig today and his command in WWI. What a cruel and stupid man
@tnerbtnerb5136
@tnerbtnerb5136 6 жыл бұрын
Mortan Enni Britain's soldiers deserved better than that callous gristmill of a commander.
@ABW941
@ABW941 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the whole story about the high ranking officers staying behind the line was also not right, but I have to agree with black adder when he said that the main reason for the war was that it would have been far to much effort not to have a war.
@brytenwaldaco.productions825
@brytenwaldaco.productions825 6 жыл бұрын
@Tim Burrows - Thanks you! The simple fact is Haig won us the war
@PavarottiAardvark
@PavarottiAardvark 6 жыл бұрын
Haig's 100 Days Offensive has to count among the greatest British Campaigns of all time.
@starwarsroo2448
@starwarsroo2448 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely hilarious all the way through, then broke your heart in the last episode and left you in thought
@michaeldreibelbis9529
@michaeldreibelbis9529 5 жыл бұрын
The Roo .... Darling and George really gave the best eulogy for WWI... when Darling talked about the plans he would never live to see... George’s observation on being the last of his friends who all signed up together.... But up until the last, Baldrick gave us his best, “Oooo. There’s a nasty splinter there. A bloke could get hurt.” I watch those final minutes.... Blackadder’s moment of absolute seriousness as he prepares to sound the charge... “Good Luck everyone.” The ending was nothing short of epic. Still brings tears to my eyes... especially how they don’t show them die.... just... an empty field... that resolves to a field of flowers...
@CarzorStelatis
@CarzorStelatis 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldreibelbis9529 And the way his voice almost breaks as he wishes them good luck
@Dave-hu5hr
@Dave-hu5hr 4 жыл бұрын
It was genius.
@starwarsroo2448
@starwarsroo2448 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldreibelbis9529 Darling being the running joke all the way through ( Fry's idea) but yeah when he says what he was going to do, only a short line, very sad and when George says he doesnt want to die, get that gulp in yoru throat, it was a tactful end to such riotously funny, good humour, because of the obvious sadness and reality of their situation n
@starwarsroo2448
@starwarsroo2448 4 жыл бұрын
I was only a kid when it was on, had me and my sister in tears
@fletcherbowman5456
@fletcherbowman5456 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Geoffrey Palmer, passed away today at 93.
@Mork2001
@Mork2001 Жыл бұрын
I am a doctor and i want my sausages :).
@grantross2609
@grantross2609 Жыл бұрын
@@Mork2001 a heavenly sausage must be a wonderful thing !
@milankolarski8876
@milankolarski8876 6 жыл бұрын
"It was viciously sharp slice of mango, wasn't it sir ?" :D :D :D
@SirMarshalHaig
@SirMarshalHaig 2 жыл бұрын
You´re damn right about it...saw my entire life flash past me, before I had the chance to remember all these toy soldiers going over the top...damn I love that Great War game thingy.
@theeyehead3437
@theeyehead3437 6 жыл бұрын
How did blackadder save him from the viciously sharp slice of mango? Using martial arts against fruit, of course.
@Solidboat123
@Solidboat123 6 жыл бұрын
He went to John Cleese's self defence classes ;)
@andyhaochizhang
@andyhaochizhang 5 жыл бұрын
Probably dropped a 16 ton weight on her.
@tomsalter7852
@tomsalter7852 5 жыл бұрын
LORD Eyehead Or he released a tiger...
@mikkelnpetersen
@mikkelnpetersen 5 жыл бұрын
Original fruit ninja
@petersenior5432
@petersenior5432 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomsalter7852 No, by the time he got there they already done mangoes
@Provenom100
@Provenom100 7 жыл бұрын
"I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell"
@feedfancier
@feedfancier 4 жыл бұрын
What I was thinking when waiting for the punchline that never came.
@SpartacusColo
@SpartacusColo 4 жыл бұрын
This is a large crisis!
@diomedes8791
@diomedes8791 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand Blackadder. Why does he want to go home to dreary old Blighty, when he can be in Berlin with General Melchett and the rest, enjoying coffee and cakes?
@DrewSavo
@DrewSavo 4 жыл бұрын
You need to watch the entire series, and then look into the truths about WW1, because this is hauntingly accurate.
@diomedes8791
@diomedes8791 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewSavo I was joking.
@dzfz2100
@dzfz2100 3 жыл бұрын
@@diomedes8791 #whoosh
@epiendless1128
@epiendless1128 3 жыл бұрын
@@dzfz2100 I think you whooshed the wrong comment.
@JonSmith-cx7gr
@JonSmith-cx7gr 3 жыл бұрын
@@epiendless1128 Just bit of friendly fire old boy. Nothing to worry about. Keeps us all on our toes!
@leewaffe3
@leewaffe3 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the best part, Edmund: "I think the phrase rhymes with CLUCKING BELL!"
@eternalhalloween1
@eternalhalloween1 4 жыл бұрын
What's especially disturbing is that Haig's lack of knowledge that his 'advice' would be worthless along with his inability to empathize with those on the front lines can be compared heavily to management and administration in general. They make incompetent decisions that often result in front line workers getting treated unfairly and often fired. These scenarios are not just limited to the battlefield.
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 4 жыл бұрын
The British Army consisted of 20 divisions on the 1st July 1916 the infamous battle of the Somme just after one day of that campaign 60,000 men lay dead, missing or wounded .
@philstaples8122
@philstaples8122 3 жыл бұрын
Haig had one job, to win the war and he did it, he was much admired until the 1960's, now that may tell you a little of why he's so maligned these days. Many say that the battle of the Somme was a slaughter and so it was but did you know that more died at Waterloo in one day? Basically Haig is despised due to a revisionist author and his book The Donkeys (1961) by Alan Clark.
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@philstaples8122 Which, I suppose, really speaks to the wastefulness of war before that point too.
@mrman2415
@mrman2415 3 жыл бұрын
@MichaelKingsfordGray relax there, you spastic. People are allowed to have opinions on things. The fanatical way in which some people worship historical figures is far more disturbing than anything else mentioned in these comments.
@atrlawes98
@atrlawes98 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a mountain of evidence suggesting that Haig cared deeply for his men. He was a good commander, not one of history’s best but he was very capable given he found himself in one of the hardest position any commander in chief has been in in history.
@whydoineedaname11
@whydoineedaname11 2 жыл бұрын
This was such a great show, and it ended so nicely, with the British and the Germans realizing the futility of war, and so ending the carnage to plant flowers in the fields.
@eh86055
@eh86055 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I honestly can't tell if you're joking. Help...
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 2 жыл бұрын
​@@eh86055 I think not.
@Sadkenny253
@Sadkenny253 2 жыл бұрын
@@eh86055 Yes of course it was a joke
@shawnm4189
@shawnm4189 Жыл бұрын
Aah yes, The Great War! 1914-1917
@sufianansari4923
@sufianansari4923 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Geoffrey Palmer - amazing actor
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 7 жыл бұрын
That chap also played the admiral in the beginning of Tomorrow Never Dies. Seems like he's a type for high ranking officers.
@Cheezsoup
@Cheezsoup 7 жыл бұрын
+ Václav Fejt "That chap" is Geoffrey Palmer . He plays lots of upperclass types perhaps best known as the husband in Butterflies and Jimmy (the mad brother-in-law) from Reggie Perrin/fairly secret army. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paLKgZx7atSWfMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXuQaoVsg6iNZqM
@Mork2001
@Mork2001 6 жыл бұрын
Also the doctor who wants his sausages in an episode of fawlty towers!
@marywickes1293
@marywickes1293 6 жыл бұрын
As Time Goes By series with Judi Dench
@agenttheater5
@agenttheater5 5 жыл бұрын
He also voiced Eeyore in the audio tapes of Winnie the Pooh - the one that has Stephen Fry voicing Pooh-Bear and Judi Dench as one of the narrators and Kanga. @@Cheezsoup
@DogOfKrondor
@DogOfKrondor 5 жыл бұрын
really like Geoffrey Palmer especially in As Time goes By and Henry the 5th.
@kristianTV1974
@kristianTV1974 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Geoffery. This was the first scene I thought of.
@cruachan1191
@cruachan1191 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, and the RAF pilots with Armstrong & Miller. Wonderful comic actor.
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 2 жыл бұрын
To this day defense against opponents armed with fruit is highly stressed in British martial arts, to the neglect of opponents armed with pointed sticks.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Geoffrey Palmer...a total legend..
@olefredrikskjegstad5972
@olefredrikskjegstad5972 Жыл бұрын
It's good to know Blackadder kept up with his classes on self-defense against fresh fruit. :)
@Mrkabrat
@Mrkabrat 7 жыл бұрын
Instead of prisioners we made a fruit salad
@geraintjones1886
@geraintjones1886 3 жыл бұрын
There was only one actor who could play Haig in this, and that was the late and great Geoffrey Palmer.
@JamesTobiasStewart
@JamesTobiasStewart 2 жыл бұрын
The writing team said one or more of their few regrets about this episode was that they couldn't find the time to do more with Haig. They felt like they were wasting Palmer a little. I'd argue he makes him mark firmly thought. What I find chilling about Haig here, is that unlike Melchitt he knows the human cost, he knows his soldiers will die in their thousands for very little gain. He understands this... And simply doesn't care.
@florinivan6907
@florinivan6907 Жыл бұрын
Haig had two problems. One was his desire to go on the offensive regardless of risk. Instead of being content with probing attacks to gradually battle harden the troops without actually decimating them. His desire for offensive action would only pay off at the end of the war. His second issue was the incompetent intel chief brigadier Charteris who kept giving below average conclusions regarding intel data. Its not an accident that things improved once Charteris was removed.
@WilliamSmith-mx6ze
@WilliamSmith-mx6ze Жыл бұрын
You do realise this isn't actually General Haig but Geoffrey Palmer?
@johnmccrossan9376
@johnmccrossan9376 Жыл бұрын
Removed with a handsome pension no doubt
@Myndir
@Myndir 8 ай бұрын
So his strategies didn't work until they won the war?
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 10 ай бұрын
As a military veteran, this show is the best.
@malcolmabram2957
@malcolmabram2957 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall that Blackadder's words, "It rhymes with clucking bell."
@joeyoung431
@joeyoung431 Жыл бұрын
A history professor once directly addressed Blackadder in a class I took. He said "I don't care how well Rowan Atkinson delivers snippy comments; the Germans did as well as they did in WWI because man for man their sergeants, lieutenants and captains were markedly superior to those of the Allies. I also don't care how well Stephen Fry plays aristocratic buffoons; the Allies won because man for man their colonels, generals and field-marshals were markedly superior to those of the Germans. Allied neglect of the tactical situation gave us some striking poetry. German neglect of the strategic situation gave us the twentieth century. Any questions?" The gentleman sitting next to me walked out, shouting over his shoulder that a lecturer who would contradict Blackadder obviously didn't understand history. The lecturer later resigned because he feared the department had been infiltrated by fascist agents. The student who walked out changed his major to political science and got most of the way through an undergraduate thesis on why Christians shouldn't be allowed to vote before being banned from campus for life for using university computers to watch CP. Undergrad was weird.
@scottarthur3386
@scottarthur3386 Жыл бұрын
And then everybody clapped
@minicle426
@minicle426 Жыл бұрын
...Wibble.
@specularverzide9972
@specularverzide9972 Жыл бұрын
Damn your story is incredible, as in I don't believe it.
@Franky46Boy
@Franky46Boy Жыл бұрын
They should write a whole new series about this called: 'Undergradder'... 😳
@r.j.lombardi111
@r.j.lombardi111 Жыл бұрын
​@@specularverzide9972 I do... There are a ton of weird blokes studying history.
@richardpowell9830
@richardpowell9830 2 жыл бұрын
"I think the phrase ryhems with clucking bells" So funny 😆
@Justin-Theobald
@Justin-Theobald 3 жыл бұрын
“Clucking bell” is how gta san got its fast food name.
@MarkMaddyGriff
@MarkMaddyGriff 5 жыл бұрын
...'I think the phrase rhymes with Clucking Bell!'
@niccvier
@niccvier 5 жыл бұрын
It was a viciously sharp slice of mango
@peterdavies2960
@peterdavies2960 4 жыл бұрын
Haig plays Dr. Price in the Fawlty Towers episode: The Kipper and the Corpse and the general in Tomorrow Never Dies...
@elvisduck4014
@elvisduck4014 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is actor Geoffrey Palmer, his wikipedia page is worth a look. He has been in lots of things.
@badvoc
@badvoc 3 жыл бұрын
"suits me...Dougie!"
@jimbo1066
@jimbo1066 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Geoffrey Palmer
@davidosilverman900
@davidosilverman900 4 жыл бұрын
"I think the phrase rhymes with 'clucking bell'"
@Mr.W00dley
@Mr.W00dley 5 жыл бұрын
Haig is the Doctor in Kipper and the Corpse (Fawlty Towers)
@porthard5951
@porthard5951 5 жыл бұрын
One of the great fawlty towers episode......I dont have a sign out the front saying hotel for guests with a fifty percent chance of making it thru the night......
@diomedes8791
@diomedes8791 4 жыл бұрын
«I’m a doctor and I want my sausages» LOL
@elvisduck4014
@elvisduck4014 4 жыл бұрын
Actor Geoffrey Palmer.
@barrythatcher9349
@barrythatcher9349 2 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Palmer was also played in the long running series; 'As Time Goes By' with Dame Judi Dench.
@psychiatry-is-eugenics
@psychiatry-is-eugenics 4 жыл бұрын
Military intelligence , a contradiction in terms . For all countries
@blitz21
@blitz21 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Jeffery Palmer.
@urmo345
@urmo345 7 жыл бұрын
clucking bell!
@MrKaywyn
@MrKaywyn 5 жыл бұрын
A sensational guest spot.
@dr.deathdefying9121
@dr.deathdefying9121 4 жыл бұрын
when you have to watch this for schoolwork while your school's shut for coronavirus - holly
@Ihgrir
@Ihgrir 4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly...your school could do worse. While obviously the exact events didn't happen, Blackadder does pretty well in presenting the spirit of the period it features.
@robertofulton
@robertofulton 3 жыл бұрын
@@roguishpaladin it really really doesn’t. Blackadder is a comedy, a very good comedy but all it captures is the idiotic 1960s socialist historians view of World War One, what it doesn’t do is present a realistic or accurate account of anything. The fact that a school deems it sensible to watch this as part of its history lessons is a sad incitement of British schooling.
@internetenjoyer1044
@internetenjoyer1044 3 жыл бұрын
@@roguishpaladin Nah it doesn't. At school i had to watch blackadder when learning about WW1 as well, and its absolutely hilarious, but fucking hell, it's such a bad way to teach the period and about British command in general. When I learned the actual history, I was dusgusted at how schools misteach this.
@grease_monkey6078
@grease_monkey6078 Жыл бұрын
You know me, I'm not a man to change my mind no ,we've noticed that 😆
@SatNavDan
@SatNavDan 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that was Geoffrey Palmer.
@HamburgerTime209
@HamburgerTime209 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't he call in his favor from Haig when he was about to be executed by firing squad?
@diablog1621
@diablog1621 5 жыл бұрын
Because plot
@celestinekhasatsili9814
@celestinekhasatsili9814 4 жыл бұрын
Haig said he never wants to hear from him again
@PatrickKelly-lz3pv
@PatrickKelly-lz3pv 4 жыл бұрын
Because he had already used up the favour
@themysteriouscatperson9483
@themysteriouscatperson9483 4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t remember, in this episode, Baldrick was the one that told him to call Haig, so obviously blackadder couldn’t remember to call him, plus he didn’t really have the opportunity
@eternalhalloween1
@eternalhalloween1 4 жыл бұрын
At this point in the story, they may not have thought of it. Plus he had the hope of the minister of war pardoning him. (Which did happen)
@realcapitalist1462
@realcapitalist1462 Жыл бұрын
I forget the name of the particular site on the Somme where you enter the wood but you are not allowed to stray from the pathways because there are remains of bodies that still lie where they fell. And not a sing sound of bird song. Quite the most profound experience. Imagining the horror you'd really think it would have ended all war. Bloody hell!
@docholiday7975
@docholiday7975 4 ай бұрын
That'd be due to unexploded ordinance, not unburied bodies. There's a significant swarth of France that has this issue, it's called "zone rouge".
@realcapitalist1462
@realcapitalist1462 4 ай бұрын
@@docholiday7975 You know to where I'm referring?
@PatrickKelly-lz3pv
@PatrickKelly-lz3pv 4 жыл бұрын
Haig was a Scotsman, was he one of those Scots who had not a trace of a Scottish accent.
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 4 жыл бұрын
I found a forum thread discussing it: www.greatwarforum.org/topic/213462-field-marshal-earl-haig/ It seems like he did, although perhaps it was not overwhelming, and not everyone mentions it. I wonder if he's one of those people who knew how to turn off his accent in certain company.
@reigaterobot4965
@reigaterobot4965 4 жыл бұрын
How can you miss out the next line!
@davidjatt3251
@davidjatt3251 4 жыл бұрын
cause it was shit?
@TravisLoneWolfWalsh
@TravisLoneWolfWalsh 4 жыл бұрын
Here in my hometown Grand Falls Windsor in Newfoundland We have a very strong hatred for Haig
@atrlawes98
@atrlawes98 2 жыл бұрын
Understandable but not altogether justified.
@flyfish4fun
@flyfish4fun Жыл бұрын
“If you fail, try and try again”…
@WilliamSmith-mx6ze
@WilliamSmith-mx6ze Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Tony Robinson claimed there wasn't a 'Blackadder' view of WW1. Of course there was. It was the 'Oh What a Lovely War' view, the Wilfred Owen or Siegfried Sasson view of WW1. What needs to be argued is if it is true.
@docholiday7975
@docholiday7975 4 ай бұрын
Tony, god love him, isn't much of a historian if he tried to argue that. The Blackadder view of WWI is pure Lions led by Donkeys, stuff prominently put forth by Lloyd George in his memoirs or Basil Liddell Hart in his various works and Alan Clark (whom was an associate of Harts) and was in vogue during the 60s. The problem is this is all deprecated and seen as rubbish nowadays; while there were others, these three had significant egos and even larger axes to grind (George self recrimination over the dead in the war he oversaw and a want to distance himself from responsibility, Hart frustration that his views on the future of war weren't being followed by the British military and that anyone against them was an idiot or incompetent, Clark who saw involvement as unnecessary and as the death kneel of the British empire). This would be somewhat forgivable if they hadn't played fast and loose with basic facts, deliberately distorting events to suit their arguments if not outright fabricating them at times. As it is, this is a dated school of thought from the 60s that has been outright rejected by current historians.
@deketk5227
@deketk5227 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody tell Marshal Haig that throwing infantrymen at machine guns head-on is not exactly the best idea
@Jedi_Spartan
@Jedi_Spartan 3 жыл бұрын
Blackadder: "Would that be the plan to continue with total slaughter until everyone's dead except Field Marshal Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise Alan?"
@santymartin7383
@santymartin7383 2 жыл бұрын
How do you think he won the one hundred day offendive.
@atrlawes98
@atrlawes98 2 жыл бұрын
What was Haig supposed to do instead then?
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
@thanhhoangnguyen4754 2 жыл бұрын
@@atrlawes98 figure a another tactical strategy without being involving so much frontal charge in massive especially since British is not a man power country.
@atrlawes98
@atrlawes98 2 жыл бұрын
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 Yeah like when he tried creeping barrages? Tanks? Shock tactics? Aerial bombardment? Walking fire? Mining the enemy trenches? Combined arms assaults? What other tactics would you use that he didnt already try? Don’t be so arrogant.
@elizabethp.kanizin9009
@elizabethp.kanizin9009 2 жыл бұрын
I recall "the big push"! Tried that, dear!
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 5 жыл бұрын
Clucking bell LOL
@waynesworldcoinsaustralia2640
@waynesworldcoinsaustralia2640 2 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed Lord flashheart Whoof
@miroslavtomic7038
@miroslavtomic7038 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I would blame it all on a sharp mango.
@hugovea
@hugovea 4 жыл бұрын
I think the expression rhymes with 'clucking bell'
@adistract14on64
@adistract14on64 5 жыл бұрын
The butcher of the Somme
@robertofulton
@robertofulton 3 жыл бұрын
It’s true. The battle of the Somme did break the back of the German army so that the final two years of the war were essentially a mopping up exercise. Haig most certainly butchered the Germans at the Somme.
@internetenjoyer1044
@internetenjoyer1044 3 жыл бұрын
According to the German generals, the Somme was "the graveyard of the German army". We get mistaught this war badly at gcse level and just repeat an outdated 1960s zeitgeist
@otten5666
@otten5666 3 жыл бұрын
@@internetenjoyer1044 "According to the German generals". Which ones? All of them??? I think you meant to say "According to a KZbin comment I read" or "In my personal opinion".
@Myndir
@Myndir 8 ай бұрын
@@otten5666 It's a colourful translation of Rupprecht's line, sometimes rendered as "What remained of the old first-class peace-trained German infantry had been expended on the battlefield."
@katman734
@katman734 4 жыл бұрын
I think the phrase rhymes with 'clucking bell'.
@bettyswunghole3310
@bettyswunghole3310 2 жыл бұрын
...I think it rhymes with "clucking bell"...
@sprinterofficial8457
@sprinterofficial8457 3 жыл бұрын
I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell
@GameArchiver
@GameArchiver 5 жыл бұрын
Oh so that's how he got the idea.
@SyndicateOperative
@SyndicateOperative 4 жыл бұрын
No, he had the idea ahead of time. Haig was a last resort, and all he did was give him advice that he'd already tried.
@SummerBayJournal
@SummerBayJournal 4 жыл бұрын
No, this phonecall took place after he'd already tried that.
@dingopisscreek
@dingopisscreek 2 жыл бұрын
Sharpened mangos are something to fear
@lordyrich
@lordyrich 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Dougie
@101MRSPICE
@101MRSPICE 3 жыл бұрын
Haig did not have an English accent he was born and bred in Scotland he was Scottish 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 6 жыл бұрын
Field Marshall sir Douglas Haig "the butcher "
@robertofulton
@robertofulton 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Haig did butcher the Germans. What a fantastic and innovative field marshal he was who lead the British and French forces to utter victory over the German army.
@langleydolphin1826
@langleydolphin1826 3 жыл бұрын
This sum up the first world war
@gamemaster613
@gamemaster613 3 жыл бұрын
Haig didn't solve it for him so Blackadder could've called back.
@Grandizer8989
@Grandizer8989 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe historians are trying save his image. Haig was a butcher, full stop. He never set foot on a battlefield, launched Calvary attacks even in 1918, and botched the use of the tank.
@Grandizer8989
@Grandizer8989 5 жыл бұрын
I see your point somewhat, but tell that to the 400,000 mothers of The Somme and who knows how many of Flanders.
@Grandizer8989
@Grandizer8989 5 жыл бұрын
Ivor Blythe Keegan says he was a good general so I guess I’ll read up more on him
@Rockbagaren
@Rockbagaren 5 жыл бұрын
You know he did fight on the field in 1914... mostly known for fleeing himself in the face of danger and leting his men fight a loseing battle.
@staalman1226
@staalman1226 5 жыл бұрын
@Cameface H No, his horse set foot on the field (Sorry I had to do it)
@Grandizer8989
@Grandizer8989 4 жыл бұрын
Cameface H not in WW1 dipshit
@TommyGlint
@TommyGlint 4 жыл бұрын
As expected, the comments are full of people who never read a WW1 history book, or at best just one or two. I’m not saynig Haig was a genius or didn’t make mistakes, but how easy it must be to just jump on an ill informed bandwagon, instead of reading up on the subject. I really do believe there are some people who literally get their WW1 impression from Blackadder and perhaps a few officer poets. For starters, Haig didn’t decide every, single damn thing in the British Army. Choosing a tactic like walking in line, slowly towards an enemy trench you expect to be subdued by gas most likely would have been a divisionel level decision, just as an example. The 1918 British Army was a pretty damn advanced, capable Army, that had learned, adapted and developed everything from tactics to equipment. And they had been led, on average, no better or worse then other WW1 armies. I think it’s only in the British memory of WW1 that there is such a masochistic approach. It might have had a harder learning curve than other armies due to starting from scratch with such a small force, but it ended up doing pretty well. All the time led by Haig.
@patagualianmostly7437
@patagualianmostly7437 4 жыл бұрын
A sober analysis of the realities of WW1. (& consequently WW2) But it's far easier to trot out the old "Us-V-Them" "simplistic reasoning" than actually pick up a hefty tome on the subject.
@Jakeonkuningas
@Jakeonkuningas 4 жыл бұрын
UK had the only large "Professional" army. Germany and France had much smaller armies of that nature. Of course UK had to pick up training since they had never had a draft before. But UK didn't have a bigger learning curve than any other country. All the powers had incompetent officers who got to their position because they were royalty. But the absolute top was manned by merited men in all countries (except Russia when Nikolai II decided he should run the war).
@TommyGlint
@TommyGlint 4 жыл бұрын
@Kakeonkuningas The Germans mobilized 4,5 mill. men in 1914, the BEF sendt to France was 250,000 strong. Yes, it was professional, but that professional force was already almost spent by late 1914, and certainly after Aubers Ridge and Neuve Chapelle, precisely at the point where you could say the “learning curve” of attack and defense in trench warfare started. The learning curve problem is also to a large extent an officers issue, and the British simply didn’t have a large pool of trained officers to take from. It’s one thing to start from scratch with recruits, but you’re really handicapping yourself without trained officers. The small peace time army meant that even officers of high rank hadn’t even commanded divisions-size units on manoeuvres. Outside of individual soldier fieldcraft and gun drill, I never heard anyone claim the British Army of 1914 had any advantage over other armies, despite it’s pre-war professional nature.
@Wanderer628
@Wanderer628 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a factual comment and not just regurgitating the usual 'lions led by donkeys' crap. Masochistic really is the way to describe it. The British army was led no worse than any of the other armies but only the British remeber their officers as incompetent.
@anthonystewart677
@anthonystewart677 4 жыл бұрын
He was an ARSEHOLE.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 2 жыл бұрын
Wubble! A wubble!
@nickolaynickolov6641
@nickolaynickolov6641 Күн бұрын
Aaaaah, you've cut off the "clucking hell" punchline - how could you?!
@fredfat1606
@fredfat1606 6 жыл бұрын
clucking bell
@tanymastey
@tanymastey 4 жыл бұрын
mr bean
@Fergus-Collington
@Fergus-Collington 6 жыл бұрын
Who's the actor
@EForchetto
@EForchetto 6 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Palmer
@fabiankirchgessner9683
@fabiankirchgessner9683 4 жыл бұрын
Pirabee absorb
@fabiankirchgessner9683
@fabiankirchgessner9683 4 жыл бұрын
Pirabee absorb
@fabiankirchgessner9683
@fabiankirchgessner9683 4 жыл бұрын
Pirabee absorb
@Knightwingofbludhaven
@Knightwingofbludhaven 4 жыл бұрын
This documentary of British military officers is soo accurate
@atrlawes98
@atrlawes98 2 жыл бұрын
but it isn’t accurate at all in truth. It’s absolutely infuriating that this misperception of them is so widespread in the public mindset.
@Myndir
@Myndir 8 ай бұрын
@@atrlawes98 It's regrettable but unavoidable. Most people are doomed to wallow in ignorance and myth. It's been the way throughtout human history. Mass education has done little to reduce it.
@darthvaderreviews6926
@darthvaderreviews6926 4 жыл бұрын
IMO, in an ideal world, Haig should've been played by Brian Blessed and had him scream "MORE HORSES!" to finish off the scene. It would've brought the entire series full circle and fit perfectly.
@themysteriouscatperson9483
@themysteriouscatperson9483 4 жыл бұрын
DarthVaderReviews Oh my god, you should’ve written this series, that would’ve been brilliant
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like a good idea at first, and it might have worked out well, but the show already had a large personality general. Blessed and Fry would have felt like they were doing the same thing. I'm not sure what they did choose worked out perfectly either, though. *shrug*
@Moamanly
@Moamanly 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed would have suited a more 'lead-from-the-front' type of general than Haig.........
@khaleddekar2188
@khaleddekar2188 4 жыл бұрын
To who didn't get the reference, pygmies are African tribe and they are shortest people on Earth
@Moamanly
@Moamanly 3 жыл бұрын
NOT exclusively African.
@supermari246
@supermari246 Жыл бұрын
Seems putin took a page from haigs art of war
@worlddd7777
@worlddd7777 Жыл бұрын
Not really, its Ukranians who are in their 11-th wave of recruiting, in another words, incredible number of men they lost. And Russians are fighting with small handful of soliders
@supermari246
@supermari246 Жыл бұрын
@@worlddd7777 Ah yes the same handful of men that were suppose to "liberate" Kyiv from Nazi oppression in couple of days in a special operation. So go shove that soviet sickle up your twat and use the hammer that crosses it to bonk your brain back to reality. The small handful of soldiers you're talking about went to the same type of dustpan that its shown in the video last April.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 5 жыл бұрын
So THAT's why?
@nifralo2752
@nifralo2752 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Haig have a Scottish accent?
@rorybone100
@rorybone100 4 жыл бұрын
All these types are educated at English public schools where any trace of anything Scottish is erased.
@nifralo2752
@nifralo2752 4 жыл бұрын
@@rorybone100 Haig is reported to have retained his Edinburgh accent espically when he was in a crisis
@2msvalkyrie529
@2msvalkyrie529 3 жыл бұрын
He probably had one of those annoying " posh " Scottish accents like David Tennant. ? They're actually more irritating than real Scottish accents. But at at least they're understandable.
@nifralo2752
@nifralo2752 3 жыл бұрын
@@2msvalkyrie529 you realise david Tennant dosent talk like dr who in real life. Also who says Scottish accents have to sound rough?
@qaismanette
@qaismanette 2 жыл бұрын
Where is Mboto Gorge?
@evrythnggoes
@evrythnggoes 3 жыл бұрын
how is haig presented in this clip
@Kirstineg.
@Kirstineg. 6 ай бұрын
Any documentary on soilders from this, war 1. .... as itmwas after 2024
@blagger42
@blagger42 4 жыл бұрын
War Criminal. A Vile man
@idonotlikeboats9328
@idonotlikeboats9328 4 жыл бұрын
Alec Whitehouse 10/10 worst comment
@robertofulton
@robertofulton 3 жыл бұрын
A fantastic and innovative general who brought about the utter defeat of the German army.
@2msvalkyrie529
@2msvalkyrie529 3 жыл бұрын
Drivel . You clearly know nothing about WW1 . Apart from regurgitating the opinions of others as clueless as yourself !
@64standardtrickyness
@64standardtrickyness 5 жыл бұрын
which episode?
@wilverbal
@wilverbal 5 жыл бұрын
Goodbyeee
@leeashford2259
@leeashford2259 3 жыл бұрын
You get the impression that if blackadder would have been a bit less sarcastic haig would have got him off Scot free
@Jedi_Spartan
@Jedi_Spartan 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I have a feeling that Melchett mentioned Blackadder's various insults to him...
@123boom5
@123boom5 2 жыл бұрын
Haig is leng
@ferriswalcc
@ferriswalcc 2 жыл бұрын
55555 very funy
@tomwatson8268
@tomwatson8268 3 жыл бұрын
By Jingo😆
@harold5337
@harold5337 3 жыл бұрын
While Blackadder IV is hardly an accurate depiction of WWI, to say the series isn't incredible funny would be a lie.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 2 жыл бұрын
What wasn't accurate exactly?
@Myndir
@Myndir 8 ай бұрын
@@stevem2323 Haig was not, in fact, a dumb butcher. Blackadder's explanation of how WWI started is in fact unilateralism in a 1980s context, when Labour favoured getting rid of nuclear weapons and hoping that (a) the Soviets wouldn't use them against Britain's conventional weapons in a war, as the US successfully did against Japan, and (b) there would be some way of overcoming the Soviets' vastly greater numbers. As a last resort, Labour planned guerilla fighting and civil disobedience against a Soviet occupaction. These ideas were once taken seriously by smart people, including the Blackadder writers.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 8 ай бұрын
@@Myndir What the f are you blabbering?
@engineer4673
@engineer4673 2 жыл бұрын
Idk i found video
@mcsmash4905
@mcsmash4905 Жыл бұрын
came for the comedy but stayed for the sheer amount of morons in the comment section , absolutely priceless
@charliefarmer4365
@charliefarmer4365 Жыл бұрын
Did he actually care for his men? Evidence strongly suggests yes. Should he have seen his trench warfare wasn’t working changed tactics? Absolutely. Did he? No.
@docholiday7975
@docholiday7975 4 ай бұрын
You say that like there was some other option or that any of the other armies involved in it that went down the same path had some other answer or that the BEF wasn't working on and refining their tactics in response to the situation.
@jayytee8062
@jayytee8062 4 жыл бұрын
The English were such Judas's to their own and anyone that fought alongside them in those times.
@Dave-hu5hr
@Dave-hu5hr 4 жыл бұрын
🔔
@johnthwaites5976
@johnthwaites5976 3 жыл бұрын
The English? It was the British. Haig was actually Scottish
@robertofulton
@robertofulton 3 жыл бұрын
How British fought for four years to save the French and unlike the French never even came close to mutiny in World War One.
@shawnhierlihy3690
@shawnhierlihy3690 Жыл бұрын
Haig, the British butcher of allied troops.
@henrypulleine8750
@henrypulleine8750 3 ай бұрын
The man who won the war.
@stahl1624
@stahl1624 Жыл бұрын
Haha
@amcghie7
@amcghie7 3 жыл бұрын
"I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell."
@tegg02
@tegg02 2 жыл бұрын
I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell
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