Hairspring③ Making a breguet hairspring. How to make a over coil. 巻き上げヒゲの作成

[@paulschumacker9901]

This is so inspiring! Repairing damaged hairsprings, for me, is the most challenging task in watch repair. When I can do it correctly, it’s a wonderful experience. When it goes poorly, it’s disheartening. Watching this video is inspiring!

[@tanakayawatch]

Thank you very much ☺️

[@sc5725]

Brilliant! You can find the templates, but you can't just download the skill & intuition to know how to do this kind of thing. Thanks for showing this.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️

[@Roelasia]

where did you get that booklet with examples, and can you make it accessable for me?

[@tanakayawatch]

I got it at school , when learn about making a Breguet hairspring . maybe I can not sent all page of booklet. now I serch it, it's on www.tempered-online.com/curtis/PhillipsTerminalCurves.pdf

[@mark5195]

Thanks T&T&T

[@mark5195]

Good job making that spring! I’ve Lost a lot of money trying to straighten Balance Springs LOL

[@kawataufik5098]

It’s good we can see booklets but in different language how to make it in English? I try copy and past dose not work Thanks

[@TimRice-v7t]

@@tanakayawatch This website appears to be dead, any chance you could upload the file somewhere?

[@MrSpa7777]

８分から９分までの工程　参考になります。　ひげを常に水平に保つためですね。何度も何度も見ています。

[@tanakayawatch]

ヒゲは、一か八かで直すのではなく、ここを摘んだらこう曲がるだろと予想を立て、実際にやってみて、思うように行ったか、どうなったか確認して、自分のパターンを作って行くのがいいですよ。ただ直るかなーで摘んでいると、直った時も何故直ったかが分からなくて次に繋がりませんよ。

[@MrSpa7777]

@@tanakayawatch 了解しました。心してかかります。

[@itzhaccroitoru4082]

Wonderful work! Halo from Canada

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks!! From Japan ☺️

[@brianwu999]

Your skills are superb

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks 😊

[@ПашаПитецкий]

Такого ще не бачив, дякую вам за працю 😊❤

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️

[@roadshowautosports]

Just like Paul Schumacker said, it’s inspiring but also satisfying! I’m new as apprentice and already had my share of ruined hairsprings! I was wondering, where did you get those drawings? The one you cut off the schematic to adjust this spring. Thank you!

[@tanakayawatch]

I got it at school , when learn about making a Breguet hairspring . maybe I can not sent all page of booklet. now I serch it, it's on www.tempered-online.com/curtis/PhillipsTerminalCurves.pdf Good luck !

[@roadshowautosports]

@@tanakayawatch AWESOME!!!! Just got it and will start reading this weekend!!! Great explanation you did on every step of the way!!!! Thank you!

[@jd1838]

@@tanakayawatch no puedo ingresar al link pudieras por favor compartir nuevamente

[@tanakayawatch]

Really ? I accessed now , I can see this web page. please check your browser security .

[@Mars-zgblbl]

The link goes to a gambling site. My browser warns the site is unsafe.

[@alexandreferro3638]

Wonderful work!!!!!!!! I am from Brasil, very good !!!!!

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks , nice to meet you!

[@txiskofernandez6843]

Very nice. I ahve unsderstood how to amke measures and calculate 62.5, OK, but what is the determinant data to get Nº 18 and not another number?? Thanks to share.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching 😊 This book has many same pictures. There are different size. I think Old days. They can not rescaling photocopy . No18 has not meaning just numbers.

[@RickHorne-f8c]

where can I find or buy book or pdf of terminal curve diagrams Thank You and great video

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching . I found it now . www.yumpu.com/fr/document/read/21734026/courbes-terminales-phillips

[@WhiteRabbit1980]

Great work , keep going

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️☺️

[@benmak3283]

What is the advantage of over coil ?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️ In recent years , the accuracy advantage has been almost nonexistent. Just looks. But need a repair skills.

[@jd1838]

Gracias por compartir contenido tan valioso mil bendiciones 🌟

[@tanakayawatch]

Thank you very much too. ☺️

[@runelisether6256]

Thank you for informative stream :) Can I ask where you buy the hairspring. I am looking for generic hairsprings that I can shape myself. Also longer one that I can cut myself?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching 😊 I bought it secondhand tool shop in SWISS. And I have many junk movements, then when I need to repair that using old new hairspring and taking off from junk movements. Sorry I can’t help you 😞

[@joseluiscastillo9612]

Awesome! Just a question. Why did You choose the No.18 ?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️ This book has same shapes and several size. I choose fit to diameter’s page. I think when published it , everyone can not use enlarge / reduce copy machines.

[@jamesb.9155]

Sweet little piece of background music!

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️

[@ช่างทั่วไปไขปัญหา]

Very good thanks you❤❤❤

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks too. ☺️

[@Brannigan777]

Where is the part of the video where you make a hairspring, like the title says?

[@tanakayawatch]

Oh sorry , you want to see from Fe ? I can not live up to expectations.

[@Brannigan777]

@@tanakayawatch You were the one that set the expectations. That is clickbait.

[@kawataufik5098]

Can you please send link we can printing those sample of over coil hair spring thanks

[@tanakayawatch]

I got it at school , when learn about making a Breguet hairspring . maybe I can not sent all page of booklet. now I serch it, it's on www.tempered-online.com/curtis/PhillipsTerminalCurves.pdf

[@jonathangraham8989]

Can I get a pdf copy of your manuscript Phillips terminal curves. I have not had any luck locating one anywhere.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching. ☺️ Link was broken before I introduction. Then uploaded at community page but only one page.

[@jftman53]

I see the special tool to bend up the terminal coil. What is the name of that tool? I remember seeing a vid where regular tweezers were used to push the spring into wood and leave the bend in it. I have yet to do one but have a Elinvar spring to form and collet. I think using the tool may be the way to go.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching. ☺️ I use Dumont No.9. It’s bent up a hair spring. But there can use pocket watch size. Then I usually use fat tweezers and wood you said.

[@moisesrojas3125]

Magnifico muchas gracias por la clase

[@tanakayawatch]

Gracias ☺️

[@prawnstar9213]

What did you use to hold the hairspring collet? You nailed it into that wood.. like a dial foot? Or a pin?

[@tanakayawatch]

It’s just brass pin , or anything ok I think.

[@zonablazer]

Did you have to resize the terminal curves to the size of your hairspring? If so how did you do that? I have the terminal curves book but when I print they are much larger than my actual hairspring.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️ My book has several size of curves. Of course you can resize of photocopy.

[@zonablazer]

What size paper did you use to print? Looks like 8.5x11 but pages are split lengthwise.

[@MrSpa7777]

今日。再確認のため再び見ました。　初めて見た時より少し深く理解ができました。　立ち上げの角度難しいですね。感謝しています。

[@tanakayawatch]

技術書の類もそうですが、初めて読んだ時と、実験したから読み直した時では全く違いますよね。読み返す度に新しい部分に気付けるので。 みんなの役に立てる様な動画になるといいですね。

[@goonwatchmaker7876]

Where can I download the hairspring master document? Thank you very much.

[@tanakayawatch]

Hi sir I got it from school as student. But you can download it from this link. www.tempered-online.com/curtis/PhillipsTerminalCurves.pdf

[@goonwatchmaker7876]

The file I downloaded is corrupt and cannot be downloaded again😢😢😢😢😢

[@watchesaliswiss714]

Nice job

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️

[@dbaider9467]

This was lovely to see. A difficult thing to do. What school did you go to?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks, I was learning it in WOSTEP in swiss.

[@jagawa2674]

Hello, I have a Breguet spiral on a Rolex 1570 movement, which still works, but the spiral does not seem to me to be at 100%. The watch loses more than one/2 minutes per day. Do you believe that it is possible to repair the spiral or find a complete balance(I didnt find)?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching. Yes , you can fix it. Control to under 10 seconds 6 positions. But that need lot of time. If you get new complete balance , it have to control it. Of course I don’t have stock of balance.

[@jagawa2674]

@@tanakayawatch Thank you for taking the trouble to answer me. If I sent you the spiral could you fix it for me.Or could you make me one.

[@tanakayawatch]

Sorry I can’t get offer now. Because I belong to the watch repair company. Someday I start independent shop, I’ll tell you. ☺️

[@MrSpa7777]

are you japanese? your technick is very high.and quority is very high. I am studying.where are you get hair spring?

[@tanakayawatch]

In this video, using a hairspring for ETA6497. Not mach that movement just take process. Can get internet auction or parts shops. In fact, have to change a hairspring, I usually find nearly hairsprings from my dead stock balances, and adjust length and shapes.

[@TacBlades]

That was masterful

[@tanakayawatch]

Thank you very much 😊😊

[@fahd6008]

Très intéressant, travail intelligent, minutieux, explicatif et bien ficellé, bravo génial

[@tanakayawatch]

Thank you very much ☺️

[@johnhowton2067]

masterful, a lost art hardly used

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️

[@prawnstar9213]

THE BEST! The best the best the best!

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks too much ☺️☺️

[@Josias647]

Brasil. Good . Como consigo esta tabela?

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching 😊 How about a hairspring or the chart?

[@stevenhill1291]

Holy shifts I am very impressed

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️

[@RollaArtis]

Phillips was a mathematician and mining engineer not a watchmaker. The patterns shown in his book only show how to make a spring expand and contract concentrically, not how to make the balance vibrations isochronous.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for informations ☺️

[@RollaArtis]

@@tanakayawatch If you look at the balance spring of an old English precision chronometer, you will see that they never needed to bend the spring in any strange shapes to achieve isochronism. They have just a simple curved overcoil, either one two or three turns.

[@tanakayawatch]

@@RollaArtis Exactly, I also agree. And now , regular use watches don't need those theories. But I'm watchmaker that I have to repair and need skills fits them.

[@consertarrelogios2232]

O melhor, parabéns

[@tanakayawatch]

Thank you very much ☺️

[@mnkim854]

Wow...

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️

[@MrSpa7777]

日本の方ですか？とてもクオリティが高く勉強させてもらっています。 ヘアースプリングはどこから入手されいるのでしょうか？

[@tanakayawatch]

ありがとうございます。日本在住の日本人です。 動画内のヒゲゼンマイは、ETA 6497の物ですので、オークションや部品商で運が良ければ手に入ると思います。 機械は適当な懐中時計なので、実際には合ってはいないです。 作業手順のイメージビデオですので。 実際の修理でヒゲを交換する時は、過去に買い集めたテンプのデットストックの中から、ヒゲゼンマイの合いそうなもの外して付け替えて、長さを合わせ、平ヒゲに仕上げる時もあれば、巻き上げヒゲに仕上げる時もあります。

[@MrSpa7777]

@@tanakayawatch ヘアースプリングのテキストも すばらしいですし　ヘアスプリング修正工具も始めてみました。スプリング修正で私はもう２つもスプリングを潰しています。 普通のピンセットでは上に持ち上げる角度を付けるのが難しくて。 素晴らしい専用工具ですね。 テキストも手に入れたいところです。

[@tanakayawatch]

ありがとうございます。 テキストを上げることは出来ませんが、海外のアーカイブにはあると思いますので探してください。また、各技術書にも図が引用されていますのでそれを拡大縮小コピーすれば同じです。 巻き上げ方は一つ前の動画を見て貰うと、特殊ピンセットが無くても巻き上げる事が出来るのを実践しています。 がんばってください。

[@MrSpa7777]

@@tanakayawatch ありがとうございます。

[@hwacafe6586]

Do you sell !?

[@tanakayawatch]

Not for sell. Just how to movies ☺️

[@ericalbert6954]

Merci beaucoup l'Ami !

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks too.😊

[@МихаилАнисимов-ц3я]

Thank you !!!

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks too ☺️

[@franciscocordobaaguilar5281]

Hola, soy Francisco, su canal me ha sido muy útil para mi aprendizaje. Desearía que me indicara dónde o cómo conseguir las pinzas y las herramientas para restaurar o formar el espiral Breguet para volantes. Le estaría muy agradecido. Espero respuesta. Un saludo.

[@tanakayawatch]

Hola, soy Shigekazu. Thanks for watching. I bought those tweezers at Swiss secondhand tool shop. Maybe you can buy eBay. You have to buy Size 0 or 00. I can see size 3 or 4 in eBay but there are too big.

[@呲水坦克鸭]

nice

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks 😊

[@Leaf.Commented]

Needs more interuptive music, maybe a imp louder, lets have some crashing undertones and wailing psychotic melodramatic confusion.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ! Recently, I changed music, My friend choose more good music.

[@nobuno70]

一生行うことのない作業だと思いますが、ひげゼンマイ曲げるピンセットが欲しいです。

[@tanakayawatch]

カッコいいピンセットは沢山ありますので、是非調べて集めて下さい！😊

[@CuongNgo-zx2kv]

👍👍👍👍

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️

[@jgalvezluna]

Increíble! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks 😊 😊😊

[@johndevries7122]

I like the music, bloody hell.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️ Sorry to loud music. Recently I reduce music volume 😅

[@rfarabee1911a1]

Actually this is a Lossier overcoil…my preferred style to the Breguet

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks. I first time to hearing it Lossier. I’ll learn it.

[@kursatcem4523]

Best regards to Maistro ❤️

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks ☺️

[@rolandthomasset1713]

Nice but would be nicer without the terrible sound !

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching ☺️ Sorry I made a mistake adjusting the volume.

[@bfx8185]

Excellent work! But please please please change your background music. It's so annoying that I should turn it off to be able to watch the video to the end.

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching. I’ll try to find other free music. Do you have something recommended free music ?? 🤔

[@clockhappy7387]

good work. music is annoying and irrelevant... would be better silent

[@tanakayawatch]

Thanks for watching. I have a lot of watchmaking skills but no sense of music. I know 😥