Half Face Blades: A refined rant as to why I’ve distanced myself 🥔 🥔

Review of my experience with #halffaceblades or at least the #facebook groups associated. Hopefully this one will be more palatable.
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#disaster
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[@B51608]

Getting to the point is an art in itself.

[@the_pointy_end]

Amen brother. I’m working on it 😂

[@dcdude81]

The secondary market is what did it for me, I couldn’t deal with people flipping a week after drop. Love the blades, not so much the Fb groups

[@the_pointy_end]

Yeah luckily things have gotten a bit better over the past few months. Especially the ‘customs.’ And I put customs in air quotes because if 15 guys work on a knife, it is no longer a custom IMO.

[@gtrfreak]

Close quarter combat ninja here can confirm we haven't used tomahawks since 1986. Appreciate the unfiltered take you are a straight shooter 🔫

[@texasstax9913]

Refreshing af to hear this. Years of wading in and out of various top shelf knife groups have often left me disappointed / numb in the lock step nature in each of them. HFB, DTK etc. we laugh at the cult culture but where’s the line? Is it all to intensify the secondary market? Because it’s become the flipping revolution. I started decades ago as a vintage knife collector. This new era of custom/mid tech drop to the hungry dogs is wild. So long as Jack Reacher and John Wick are rockin these tools there’ll be folks that’ll sell their kidneys to buy said tools😅 thanks for your diligence. Tough to face the wave and not just go with the flow. Bravo Zulu Sir

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for the comment sir- since I made this video over a year ago, I can say that just avoiding the more toxic groups has allowed me to focus on the knives themselves and not some of the clowns that use them 😂 I appreciate your insights 🫡

[@mothman7105]

It was very refreshing to see this video verbalize what I was somehow feeling! PS: (To reach that state of mind, it would be logical to buy various expensive high-end knives, but in my case, I don't have any high-end knives, so I am just jealous, lol)

[@DrSidewayZBackup]

Still prefer winkler as the 80crv2 holds a better edge as for tomahawks often were used for creating port holes in mud huts and opening stuff, it more less is the psychological factor then anything far more that then instances in which brought scrutiny upon some teams especially those that decided to have fighting matches with pucs.

[@the_pointy_end]

Totally agree. I guess my my standpoint, I could count on one hand or less the times I wish I had a tomahawk. That said, totally depends on the theater you are fighting in I suppose. Thanks for your insights and for watching!

[@nfg-edcgear9688]

just watched this an it’s true what you say about the community. they’re SUPER against doing any modifying or anything on a HFB and they’ll say it’s not a HFB anymore lol that’s pretty dumb and narrominded because it’s the same thing as if you put new scales on your benchmade or spyderco. still the same knife just custom to your needs and likes. the community is a fookin joke but the company is cool. andy is a good dude and he actually appreciates mods, just doesn’t encourage trying to sell them as if the shop made it for a high price.

[@the_pointy_end]

Agreed bro. No problems with HFB as a company…More with the people that use them. But I’ve been group free for a minute and enjoying / using my HFB! Thanks for your comment

[@superkool7]

i own a few HFB at this point. i love very one of them, and will definitely buy more. Also MKC (Montana Knife Co). Love them too, and will definitely buy more of them also. But......... one of my favorite blades is my $20 Morakniv ;) . that said, I will forever love these knives. pieces of art for sure. and an amazing factory edge right off the bat! honestly, you won't regret a HFB purchase, i can assure you

[@the_pointy_end]

Agreed! Thanks for the insights!

[@PapaGanoush07]

I own 3 HFB knives and feel that the quality does not quite warrant the overly enthusiastic following. I received a Crow Jr. with a weird recurve and noticed a lot of grinds have a little kick out toward the handle end. I've had finishes arrive a little beat up as well. If I'm going to spend about $400 on a knife, I want it basically perfect so I can then scratch it up in use. However, HFB customer service took care of things, so I return for more because the designs are pretty and I want to support veterans in my knife collecting efforts. I have yet to find a reason to post on Instagram with my carry pistol, blade, and Jack Carr novel - I just don't get it. Am I missing out on some fanboy club perks? Good observations, thanks for the group insight!

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for watching and your input!

[@harleyhall4485]

Rant is correct. Sorry, I could watch it. Is there a problem with the knifes or just the community

[@the_pointy_end]

No problem! Knives are just overpriced imo: cult following fanbois

[@harleyhall4485]

@@the_pointy_end some are, some are not at all. I just came upon this brand, been collecting for 40 years. Everything from RMJ to Chris Reeve are in the 3-500. Theirs are promoting employment for vets as well. Any of the styles above 500 I would probably not buy

[@a661992]

You should work on telling us the time not building a clock

[@jgunther3398]

i can picture them attracting creepy people, to say the least. plus the loudmouths often take over forums

[@the_pointy_end]

Yeah there are users and then there are collectors. I like collectors.

[@BG-gx3cf]

I appreciate you telling us how it is brother keep telling it how it is don’t listen to the hate I ended up getting a crow jr it was expensive but I’ll keep it around for a while

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for watching / your support! Congrats on the crow Jr! HFB although expensive, they are awesome. I used my DJ just the other day and certainly it is a quality piece!

[@BG-gx3cf]

@@the_pointy_end you’re welcome and thank you haha I’m sure it’s hard to use them cause you don’t want to scuff them up keep the videos coming

[@kameronkrueger]

Checkout headhunter blades

[@mofishing2241]

I know the guy's girlfriend's brother. The owner seems very awesome from what he has told... couldn't expect anything less than that from his products.

[@the_pointy_end]

Andy is definitely a great guy!

[@mofishing2241]

@@the_pointy_end That's what I hear. Not many men left in the world like that.

[@karenlouden7499]

All these fancy words means he is in the Coast Guard!

[@the_pointy_end]

👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 🥔

[@agoodun]

Never heard of it

[@the_pointy_end]

They make great fixed blades! Check out their website!

[@agoodun]

@@the_pointy_end cool. I will. Looks nice

[@PrivateerCrew]

There are a few companies that have gestapo admins in groups , $900 USD when you can get something as tough or tougher for $100- 500 is What Rubs me wrong, and you are 1000% Right about the " Jack Carr " Guys to each there own but damn if you are 38 and overweight you arent going to be a CIA Agent or Seal Team 6 😂😂, You have the right to say whatever after paying $900-1500 for anything knife or TV or whatever lol

[@the_pointy_end]

Hahaha you aren’t wrong. Your comment gave me a good laugh. I appreciate you 👍🏼

[@PrivateerCrew]

​@the_pointy_end it's true 😂 there's a few groups I was kinda shocked at simple stuff like " I like the handle but it's a bit thinner than I thought " people jump all over them 😂 " you should've message the width of your hand And that would've never happened " 😂 like huh ....definitely MANY Out of shape " Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne" Types with 4 plate carriers they'll NEVER Wear 😂....cheers bro say what you want it's still a free country

[@GrayHat0621]

Dude I want to get a knife from them for my buddy who owns a non profit and prior SF guy. He is having a benefit next month and I’d like to get him a gift from them…… but they kinda just told me to go on the website. I kinda figured they’d help a bro out. I’m trying to buy a knife for a great guy who even after being diagnosed with cancer is still serving.

[@the_pointy_end]

Yeah your best bet would be to get on the Facebook BST page. I know it sucks not getting help from the company, but in a pinch, there are a ton of HFB available for cost… or just get a Winkler instead because they are better 😂 thanks for the comment

[@Skylyned]

Started watching a few of the KZbin reviews of HFBs and noticed a commonality between them all: they all reference some online community. Usually a Facebook enthusiast group.

[@Mr.Nemo-]

The paid hunt guys are the same ones who have Tridents on their knives despite never being a part of the Teams or serving for that matter. Still like the blades just not the community.

[@THExDUDEx8624]

Like the channel bro. You have some unique knives you look at. 👍🏻

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks brother! Much more to come 🫡

[@zachg3669]

Did you sell the cav jr?

[@the_pointy_end]

Yessir! I did end up keeping my DJ and use it pretty often

[@vinniepeters1936]

I would never spend more than $200 on a knife. At the end of the day, it’s just a knife. My cheap (plain edge) SOG Seal Pup Elite knife is my favorite out of all my knives. It’s just as strong as a Half Face knife. And if I lose it, I’ll buy another one immediately. Half Face knives are too expensive.

[@the_pointy_end]

You aren’t wrong- especially for a fixie!

[@darionpeters9531]

So would you still buy a Winkler in 2024?

[@the_pointy_end]

I’d have to say no. My buddy makes knives in his garage and I have really been enjoying what he puts out.

[@kaveh1836]

@@the_pointy_end😂😂😂😂 gay

[@the_pointy_end]

@@kaveh1836​​⁠no I’m bisexual actually. And you look like a cute cuddly snow man 😘 rev it harder daddyyyyy

[@DIBzWaY]

Great video brother

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for watching bro 🫡

[@GrayHat0621]

Morally aimed shot.

[@the_pointy_end]

🫡

[@GrayHat0621]

LOL NO ONE IS USING A TOMAHAWK IN COMBAT. LOL YOU SAID AIRSOFTERS ARE TRYING TO ATTACH THEM TO THEIR KIT HAHAHAHAHHA. DAM YOU JACK CARR LOL I DID JUST BUY 3 WINKLER FULL RNR THOUGH.

[@the_pointy_end]

Hahah my man. Winkler is the way.

[@siredc4182]

Sweet stache dude...subbed lol

[@the_pointy_end]

Haha thanks bro- it was a joke that has stuck around now for a minute 😂

[@siredc4182]

@@the_pointy_end lol I agree to an extent with your video. Reminds me of that Rick Hinderer drama a while back

[@Barnes-ml9wg]

The knife community as a whole is cringe. Like i just started reading the Jack Carr books and i looked up the Winkler Tomahawk. Its cool but if im spending $900 it better shoot bullets.

[@the_pointy_end]

Preach bro! Haha well said. Thanks for the comment 🙏

[@MrGabrielJude]

Lol wow, knife drama. This phenomenon seems surround these “for military by military” survival knives constantly. I just started seeing this the last couple days, when Toor Knives review popped in and enter this “half face blades…” no one’s ever heard about, googled it sees the exuberant price tags and think they’re like the HK416 of the knife world. Save yourself the drama and git yerself a dam Grayman knife for around 100bux less, or a Becker BK18 for less than 100bux and be done with it.

[@the_pointy_end]

Hah! You aren’t wrong! Thanks for watching. Have never heard of Becker but I will check them out!

[@dougvuillemot8670]

Yup. Iv got knives from 50 bucks to 600 bucks. My k bar Becker bk2 is one of my favs. It comes with the only kydex sheath that I like. Under 100 bucks.

[@jeremyshackleford3058]

@@the_pointy_end while listening to your never ending conversation, I am scrolling through and see that you have never heard of Becker knives? Not the kabar Becker but the OG Becker. Your a knife reviewer and you don’t know Becker? I am stopping the video at this point. I cant believe your a knife reviewer with so little knowledge. I do agree the HFB community is almost a cult. They won’t admit to recent QC issues. I ordered a shpos in 2019 and it’s perfectly awesome. Ordered a few blades in 2021 and 2022 and the finish and grinds are crap. Cerakote is wearing off from placing it in and out of the sheath. I have went back to Winkler, Bawidamann, and milmak blades. BTW, the tomahawk carrying is stupid.

[@the_pointy_end]

@@jeremyshackleford3058 You aren’t wrong. Never ending is a good way to characterize it but at the time (about a year ago), I wasn’t used to the online knife communities. I also wouldn’t consider myself a knife reviewer - if you knew how much bandwidth I throw at this channel, you’d know I am just an enthusiast who likes and uses his gear. I feel like I do / have done a good job being up front and honest with my experience (or lack thereof). I had not heard of Becker knives but have an appreciation for them now - almost a year later. This channel is just an outlet… and I am a student to pointy things. Agree with your assessment of HFB. I plan to do an update in the near future. Thanks 🫡

[@miguellechuga4710]

I use my tomahawk for EDC bro take back what you said

[@the_pointy_end]

You lopped someone or what’s up? #respect

[@BrianPayan]

Good review. It’s interesting that you were censored and it seems the whole brand embraces American values, especially Andrew. Protecting the brand? Come on.

[@the_pointy_end]

For sure my comments are not aimed at the company- I think they are GENIUSES with the way they have their drops and ‘make’ a famine consumer market… they have it dialed. My comments were towards the cult following on Facebook… which is laughable. Thanks for the comment!

[@jaredwipf4489]

Maybe you shouldn’t attach yourself to f book groups, agree with everything you’re saying but all these groups are the same, knives, kit, bourbon etc

[@the_pointy_end]

Agreed! It has been awesome taking a break from Facebook / Insta. Thanks for the comment 👌

[@_beanswick2054]

Do you feel like HFB is like the yeezy of knife world lol

[@the_pointy_end]

Hah! You may be onto something 🤔

[@Handsomdann]

Waste of time listening to this. Don’t watch

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!

[@Aaron-pb5xy]

I disagree!

[@nigel4692]

I agree with you

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for watching!

[@philsalvage]

I see this view point the same way I do when I hear people say they won’t go to church any more because of the hypocrisy of the followers or the priest. The message isn’t at fault but yet the message takes the blame? I don’t have a dog in this fight as I’ve never owned a HFB but I have tried to score on a drop once. If your reason of not wanting a premium product is because there’s a fatty out there somewhere with that same blade as yours then your way of thinking is flawed IMO.

[@the_pointy_end]

Thanks for your comment. I definitely don’t take issue with the company or their pedigree but moreso the followers. Since recording this video, I’ve found so many other great fixies that are cheaper. I don’t disagree with you, if you focus on the fatties, that my logic is flawed but that was only a part of the entering argument- it was more about the culture and type of person who buys them up every Saturday at noon.

[@philsalvage]

@@the_pointy_end I get you.. so far my personal favorite fixed blade that accompanies my on most mountain hikes is the Spartan Blades Harsey Definsa. Not a cheap one either but the Ergos suit me well.