Halo Infinite Campaign Development Ruined by Leadership! (Exclusive)

[@RebsGaming]

Thank you for watching! I really hope you enjoy this report and stay tuned for more. I plan on shifting my focus towards the future of Halo.

[@keenanrobinson7239]

343i, I feel like they can never get solid leadership. Leadership that cares about what the developers AND players want. It's one thing after another with their management. It fucking sucks because I KNOW they can put out solid content, but every few steps they go forward, it's another few steps back to square one. After Infinite, I really fucking hope there'll be, at least, one executive that takes that into consideration. AND that they would stay. Staten, I'm looking at you.

[@yoshisaurusrex3767]

3 steps forward, 43 steps back!

[@craig9365]

See this is where I disagree. 343 is incapable of making good content as well. They're just as incompetent as their leadership.

[@Freelancer837]

Had me until "I know they can put out solid content" considering they've never done that even once. Not games, not books, not a show, not merchandise

[@Freelancer837]

@@craig9365 Exactly. Like, the only people who majorly matter are the people making decisions. If the only thing someone does is code what they're told, they're not as important as someone who's choosing what to code for instance since anyone can just do what they're told to do

[@bloodangel7731]

So 343 management don't even play the games that they're in charge of? No wonder halo infinite recieved bad reviews on release. The game was far from fully finished but the leadership just pushed it out anyway cause money is more important

[@LewdSCP1471A]

Most studio staff don't play the games they work on, that's what QA testers are for.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

I almost wish the game wasn’t delayed a year to see how much worse/bland it could have been.

[@Freelancer837]

"on release" it didn't get any better after that either

[@squidoverlord3362]

All in all to be stuck in a bubble the team did a pretty damn good job tho

[@somebodyelseathome]

Some of the best cutscenes in halo. I like the cutscene after u beat the brute and rescue the pilot.

[@xnire]

90% of cutscenes are in dark room with chief and weapon talking. Halo 2 anniversary cutscenes are nextgen compared to this

[@somebodyelseathome]

@@xnire halo 2 is pre rendered like Pixar does with their movies

[@shigbitts]

All respect the teams working on developing the game. Just like any other industry, shit goes south, 99% of the time it's due to management and leadership being bad at their jobs.

[@squidoverlord3362]

@@xnire not to argue.. But halo 2 had some of the darkest and most poorly lit levels out of any halo game. Like even on max brightness some of thoes halo 2 lvls are litteraly like walking in a void of blackness. Halo 3 odst is prety crappy too when it comes to this issue but the few lvls in halo 2 that have this issue make roaming around in the city as rook look like a lightbulb store. Like no joke sum areas on sum lvls in halo 2 are so dark you cand even see the fkn walls. Yea we have flashlights, but still its really bad. Also halo ce has 8/10 missions that take place in a building or room. 9 if you include silent cartogapher. I wasnt going to count 2 betrayals but it mostly takes place indoors too so... yea. As for halo 2 it has like atleast 8/15 lvls that take place indoors. And sacred icon being that 1 infamously dark level from halo 2 in some areas.

[@Skisma_]

Let's hope that the new leadership will finally be what 343 needs to thrive as a studio and make a great Halo game! 🤞

[@RebsGaming]

I hope so too!

[@alexanderrobins7497]

I have zero hope and will give them no chance. The problem is when you have such bad leadership and a toxic environment for so long, it becomes engrained in the culture. The only way I could consider giving 343 Incompetences another chance is if literally everyone was fired, the people in charge were passionate, a name change, and retconning everything made after 2011.

[@Freelancer837]

Same leadership, different name

[@Mr_NotTZG]

They do have a new leadership, did you not here about the massive layoff at 343i. Now I have some hope that they would make a good halo game, but they still need to change their name because that names has so much negatives that if they do release a game, no one will play it. So they should change their name to something like Zeta Studios.

[@TexasCupid]

You're funny 😂

[@gadrielvanorion9872]

its hilarious how this is allowed to happen to xboxes biggest franchise i mean they wonder why they cant sell thier dumbass consoles and then this is how it just goes on behind the scenes as head of microsoft gaming i would go in there every few months myself to check on this shit and see if it ACTUALLY works

[@PBart7]

After seeing how Halo Infinite turned out, I don't trust them to make good games at all now, so much so I'm not putting any expectations for Hellblade 2 which a couple years ago I was so excited for

[@Freelancer837]

The exact same thing happened with Gears of War, Xbox's second biggest franchise. Microsoft doesn't know video games

[@RRai2000]

No hilarious why clowns like rant and cry about Xbox for bloody halo. And it's really funny.

[@RRai2000]

​@PBart7 Sorry but I don't you pathetic fans either. Always complaining, always talking about politics. No wonder you had become a drama queen who wants attention

[@DangerousDac]

I mean, this is OBVIOUS stuff. You could see the game was a first pass with no gloss on it. And that stuff isn't the work of 1000 dedicated people making the game, its the bullshit of the 10 people at the top of the company.

[@Hollowtide]

Pain.

[@angelcarmonarojas5240]

​@@JimmmmmmmmmmmY Wtf dude?

[@angelcarmonarojas5240]

@@JimmmmmmmmmmmY Do you really want them to listen to you when you are the same person with an unbearable attitude who always appears in comments on You Tube in the form of spam saying the same nonsense over and over again that doesn't amount to anything? Really?

[@RebsGaming]

Much pain :(

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

who does your source mean by leadership? People are gonna assume frank o connor and bonnie ross, but from what i've heard they werent the actual leadership

[@EmperorOfMan]

He made it up

[@RebsGaming]

I can say Bonnie was a huge part of leadership

[@Calinks]

Xbox has so many fumbled situations. They need way better direction and leadership with their studios. They need to hire some people to get that stuff in order just no consistency out there.

[@RRai2000]

Dont you mean you fumble it. You play their games, then you started complaining over multiplayer. That's your fault mister including this video. 😂😂

[@darkspark5854]

Halo Infinite can never happen again. Halo 7 has to be a masterpiece. 343 can’t fumble again or the franchise is toast. It kinda already is

[@boristeplitskiy7632]

This has been said since reach. After reach flopped the community said that halo is done. After halo 4 flopped those were dark times. H5 did get negative recognition but revived MM and I’d say same with infinite

[@charlesweaver722]

Honestly, I think that between what's going on with the Halo tv series and the game Halo infinite plus the confusion goings-on with the master chief collection, I swear they were trying to kill off the whole Halo universe. 1 . By not hiring creative staff that has complete working knowledge of the games and novels. 2. Not having leadership that's has passion and working knowledge and experience in the world of Halo . 3. The greatest mistakes are not getting the fans' input and not having the passion and concerns for their thoughts and experiences and what we want from Halo in a whole. 4. The corporate mind of money over people and profits over quality not understanding poor quality equals poor product and poor profits. It's crazy that it's a whole generation who knows nothing about master chief, and the Halo universe is now in charge of continuing the legacy. 😅😅😢😢 I'm afraid that Halo is destined for the 2.00 bin of forgotten games, and we will never see master chief in the big screen movies as we hoped for.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

Microsoft has been trying to make dumb choices on halo since the bungie days. Bungie pushed back on everything Microsoft pushed. Microsoft doesn't deserve halo, they see it as cod and now they have COD they are just gonna put it on ice.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

Bungie was glad to be working for Microsoft until they forced Halo 2’s development time. Imagine what Bungie could have done with the time and budget 343 Incompetencies was given.

[@RRai2000]

@@alexanderrobins7497 lol Bungie fled like cowards in the end. And it's make glad why I prefer Star Wars and Cod over halo. Less drama from you guys.

[@Analog_AI]

Corpo World. Is any better when Bonnie Ross are out?

[@Freelancer837]

No, the guy who replaced Bonnie Ross talks in interviews the exact same way she did. It's a poisoned well, you'd have to just cut it all off and start again to hope it coudl get better

[@dominick951]

"We hired people who hated halo " - 343

[@re1010]

They didn't say that. They said they hired people who haven't played Halo or shown a intrest. Even then, they still hired people to thrown the ball. Because that's what tge "unintrested" devs are: people to bounce ideas off of.

[@TheRomanTribune]

​@@re1010 it's saying basically the same fucking thing. Anything short of passion for such a huge franchise is basically apathy and hate for it as a developer of it.

[@Connor8609]

Thats such a stupid philosophy to carry through life​@@TheRomanTribune

[@TheRomanTribune]

@@Connor8609 except it's reality

[@Pallinwithpat]

They only care about the aspects that bring in money. There’s no incentive to keep working on it. It’s a shame.

[@BrokenCircle1]

Imagine. My. Shock.

[@YigitCanAydinSS]

This has nothing to do with the previous leadership every content this game got with the new leadership was already on the way with the old leadership, 343 Industries is never going to change.

[@JoshRojo98]

not even a year with Pierre on top, do you think plans come to life from one day to another? lol.

[@Marsi-MM]

​@@JoshRojo98 Pierre is only interested in diversity and other woke bs.

[@a_rhymingusername9310]

@@Marsi-MM Probably has 100% more to do with driving financial and business goals for the studio, identifying and leading talent, and creating successful products. But keep living in that DEI-fear bubble.

[@Reyeyawn]

@@Marsi-MM the minute you said “woke”, you threw any validity out the window

[@Marsi-MM]

@@Reyeyawn Just watch his interview lol. He starts with his pronouns then he just talks about diversity and he wants to see more people like him rather than making good games. He hires people because of their color and views not skill and knowledge.

[@ane7hud]

DEI leadership. Nuff said.

[@JadedPerception]

“Very legitimate source” Bro, this is mostly the same regurgitated info we’ve received from like 3 other Halo channels that have actual legitimate inside sources. Not to mention your “very legitimate source” just responds with “I have no idea” to half your questions? Come on man.. if they are a “very legitimate source” for information, they would have more to say on it. Or at the very least provide an intelligent opinion, from their perspective, in response to your question. This video script sounds very elementary and almost completely fabricated… You need to do better or very few are going to take you seriously going forward. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Chewberto]

Tbf, by "very legitimate" I'm pretty sure he just means that it's someone that he knows worked closely on Halo Infinite, not necessarily someone who has a ton of unique insight on it. As for why he doesn't say who it is, I can imagine it's for that person's own career safety. Companies rarely want to hire someone who's willing to tell the public how poorly they're running the ship, so it's not uncommon for devs to ask to remain anonymous.

[@RebsGaming]

@@Chewberto thank you chewberto, you are exactly right. People like Jaded talk shit without understanding anything

[@JadedPerception]

@@RebsGaming I understand perfectly well actually. Lol.. I’m not new to this. Inside sources (the devs) operate anonymously almost always to protect themselves from violating their non-disclosure agreements. Nobody is expecting them to reveal their names or online alias. My point was, we’ve already known pretty much all this information for months now from other channels covering Halo. It’s been such a shit show that non-Halo channels were covering it. Everybody knows what everybody else knows. So to make a little video with all the same information we’ve had at our fingertips for months now is just regurgitation. It’s not news. It’s recycled information. & it’s pretty sus when you repeat that you have a “legitimate source” multiple times throughout. Almost like you believe the more times you say it the more likely we’re going to believe that you have some special person you know that is or was on the inside. So try again, Rebs.

[@BranHamo]

It goes with a movie Life and there is another movie called Lie with Life

[@Jerasunder]

Sounds like at the top, Halo Infinite's campaign was a passionless cash grab.

[@UnprovenAssumptions]

Can we get a cross reference on the no external testing policy? Another source to verify that? If that’s legitimate, then that’s beyond insane, and a miracle the campaign is functional at all. Hopefully, all of those developers got out and finally have a jobs worthy of them 😓

[@Loyal_Tyler]

This video is a bit late... by, like, two years, but it's fine.

[@KaptainKarizzma]

Yikes. This is so troubling to hear.

[@specter_of_thestars2500]

Xbox leader ship and 343 leadership sucking, big shock!(not really)

[@xsoundofsil3nc3x96]

Source: The Ghost That Never Lies

[@jasonmac7758]

When you don't cite your sources it's kinda hard to believe. It's literally "Source? I made it the fuck up"

[@RebsGaming]

@@jasonmac7758 weird people think I would spend the time to write up a fake script and do a whole video. But I have a large following on Twitter that includes current and former halo developers, and the co creator of halo. This has allowed me to speak with sources who worked on Halo. These sources felt the need to share what happened with 343 because of how mismanaged it was.

[@jasonmac7758]

@@RebsGaming Aight, my bad. Didn't want to come out as accusatory, mostly wanted to point out that a lotta people are gonna take this with more than a grain of salt.

[@RebsGaming]

@@jasonmac7758 all good. And yea there’s still a lot of people who don’t know me so Im not surprised.

[@Nes-xm3pf]

Great video.

[@Rador000]

Thank you to Halo fans that continued to support 343. instead of blindly hating it just because its number company.

[@kalebkuhn9128]

I love how no matter how much they shit in the fans mouths, you can never be negative or you aren't a real fan. You people are a joke.

[@tranilator]

Were you dropped on your head by any chance?

[@McBoofus]

People like you are partially responsible for why Halo hasn't been good since Bungie left.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

I think we found a burner account run by Frank O’Connor, Bonnie Ross, or Kiki Wolfkill.

[@MrWaifuTaker]

343 Industries is one of the biggest gaming lolcows I can think of.

[@ComradeKoopa]

Infinite is the worst Halo game across the board right next to Halo 4. This studio couldn't put out a solid Halo if all their lives depended on it.

[@LateNightHalo]

Nah, halo 5 is far and above the worst one. Halo infinite is probably (as it exists right now) 343’s strongest game though it lacks the polish of halo 4.

[@LateNightHalo]

Notice I said “it’s 343’s best” not “it’s the best” Halo infinite has plenty of problems but it’s far from 343’s worst halo game. In fact, it can be a lot of fun. I enjoy it in its current state even if it doesn’t hold much of a candle to the Bungie titles

[@ComradeKoopa]

@@LateNightHalo It isn't even 343's best. Halo 5 is littered with problems like the rest of their games, but outside its horrendous movement mechanics, it doesn't have the fundamental problems Infinite has festering in virtually every component of the game. H5 is their best game, even if it's a 5/10. Having "fun" is not an adequate measurement for whether a game is their best game.

[@elliotjohnson9415]

​@@LateNightHalo Agree to disagree. Halo 5 is far more enjoyable than Halo Infinite, campaign and multiplayer included. Infinite is just missed potential through and through.

[@ComradeKoopa]

@@elliotjohnson9415 I wouldn't even say "potential" beyond the obvious notion that any Halo game CAN be good. Halo Infinite has scant redeeming qualities. Whatever it does right is hindered and buried by the dozens of related things it does wrong. The game is foundationally flawed in a way many fans refuse to accept because the game has a veneer of classic philosophy.

[@BigBladeFan]

So whos the source like i cant sit hear and believe anything if you cant even cite what you say. And it doesnt help that you mislead people on Twitter 24/7.

[@Jake-vu9mu]

mf doesn't know what an NDA is

[@Gojira117]

343 ruined something in Halo? Color me surprised!

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

From the video it sounds like the devs tried their best against the odds put there by the bureaucracy

[@switchboy2320]

Idk why 343 hates campaigns

[@VGeos_]

*343i leadership (managment) team.

[@Rador000]

Did u even watch the vid

[@cheporestrepo]

Helldivers 2 is everything the whole Halo franchise would ever want to be and wont ever be

[@JadedPerception]

You’re like the Halo equivalent of that ONE guy that always brings up politics at a house party where everyone is just trying to have a good time. “fUcK hAlO. HeLlDiVeRs Is BeTtEr BrO.”

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

What a sad life you must have

[@cheporestrepo]

@@BiomechanicalBrick someone is so mad, you have to compensate it reflecting your distorted low self steem mindset that believes Halo must be protected at all costs and anyone who dares to say halo is trash has a sad life, Dude, check yourself💀😭

[@BiomechanicalBrick]

@@cheporestrepo Your life is so sad that having such a cool game to enjoy as Helldivers 2 is not enough for you and you have to validate your ego through bringing down others Saying the Halo series isn't good is a show of ignorance, either do your homework or tone down the arrogance

[@cheporestrepo]

@@BiomechanicalBrick im still waiting for your non sense answer with no criteria nor solid base. Keep trying hard, facts cant be denied,

[@DanielCamargoTalks]

At what point will we protest? It has been over a decade and we sit here with our thumbs up our butts and watch content creators give free publicity to the same people who BETRAY US (not this channel). We cannot rely on Hidden, UberNick, ActMan, HaloCanon, Ghost, or any other creator to be our voice anymore. They are either checked out, or blindly supporting 343 with little to no remorse. We need to come together and make a plan to eliminate 343 from ever getting near Halo. Or, talk with your money and STOP SUPPORTING THIS STUDIO! Wake up!!!

[@angelcarmonarojas5240]

Dude, your attitude is quite stupid, some of the people you name don't even have real ties to the developer (Act man advertising 343??) (Halo Canon hasn't been present in the community for around 2 years wtf), ask that "no longer our voices" or nonsense makes no sense, apart from how do you propose that 343 disappears or how would that be good in the first place?

[@Zuri_SM]

343 has gone through bashing from every corner of KZbin content creators, even by the one who aren't focused on Halo. They gone through bashing on other socials as well. None of that stuff matters unless unless Microsoft themselves steps in, and they likely won't because Microsoft as a whole has been on the decline. Xbox exclusives in general have heavily declined in quality and their only solution is to just buy studios. They been content to just milk Xbox Game Pass for money. Gears of War is in an even worse state than Halo and they are letting it die. Unless Microsoft has a big shake up, 343 is going to continue going on as is. Just replacing developers as they leave or are layed off, rinse and repeat till the next game drops. Even with the hit they have taken to player count, which definitely effects revenue, they still squeak by without changing anything.

[@kivinrepoio]

Bro just shut up, you put 343 like if they were the spawn of satan. Yes they suck, but old 343 is gone we will see if new 343 is capable of doing a good job. And if bungie stayed it would be the same shit, just look at destiny 2.

[@HoodRed69]

@@kivinrepoio 343 counter intelligence agent detected. 343 is trash and need to be fired,. OG bungie isnt the bungie of today and you know that stop gaslighting

[@HoodRed69]

this channel is a problem too he hypes up 343 nonstop and softballs criticism he wants to be in with the rest of the halotuber getting a paycheck from 343. Dont hold back bro hold them all accountable

[@johnshawdocherty7594]

Infinite is a blue print for a good modern halo campaign in my opinion

[@tobsmonster2]

My favourite campaigns are the ones where none of the characters matter and all the interesting things happen off screen.

[@joekate121609]

Halo fell after reach game went down the drain

[@ChiquitaSpeaks]

…That’s what you get with DEI

[@bipbapthegrunt]

It's time for Halo to split from Microsoft

[@EmperorOfMan]

A channel with low subs, repeats info we already knew. Your "source" is reddit my guy.

[@HoodRed69]

It wasn't just the leadership stop giving half-baked truths its all of them they still lack creativity and skill. They don't know what fun is or what made Halo good. It's all of them that need to go bury the name 343 and fire Phil Spencer, then hire Certain Affinity boom Halo is back. Halotubers have done enough damage by shilling its now irrelevant and so is their Halo content along with their income. enough.