Halo Infinite’s Flawed Monetization

[@SameToken]

Hey thanks for watching! I'm still feeling really positive about Infinite as a whole, and 343i are definitely taking on board feedback: twitter.com/ske7ch/status/1463324577048588288

[@PBart7]

Sorry to not be on-topic but what were the songs you used in this video??

[@sspat9281]

HiddenXperia just put out a great video covering this topic from someone who loves normality. “Iconic-ness” if you will, saying that the game needs a few revamps on certain aspects to the shop. Do be warned however. Moderate swearing.

[@davide2097]

bro i dont know if u ever bought a battlepass in any other game but Halo have the most anticnosumer one of all, and the only bp that doesn't reward in game currency to players who complited the premium battlepass, that is beyond me

[@devineartwork2827]

The only thing I have a big issue with is armour being limited to certain armour cores...I want to be able to put my samurai helmet on my reach style body.

[@lancefisher8358]

Agreed that was just a bad decision with no benefits

[@jacoryarnett7347]

Its called "Lazy".

[@-wojo-1095]

Same with armor coatings

[@randomfurrygirl548]

Whats strange is that the Bots can already do this

[@lancefisher8358]

@@randomfurrygirl548 I'm upset bots have better armor than 90% of the players

[@ispgravy4233]

This is my complaints with the game so far: -Armor coatings and features NEED to be able to equip throughout ALL armor cores -Match and performance based xp, more common if you win and do good -a normal progression system -A way to earn credits in-game, such as through a battle pass,even, or matches -high end vehicles in BTB need to spawn sooner, banshee needs a buff -We need more game modes, maps, and weapons -cut store prices in half -less specific challenges -slayer only playlist -player collision That’s about it. Amazing gameplay but with these addition it would literally be the best halo game to exist, period. Remember to spread the word so 343 can make halo great again! (FYI 343 themselves had said this is all day 1 content)

[@drew5637]

dont forget reducing the damage snipers do to vehicles, you get shot 3 times with a sniper in a warthog or anything else and youre done yet you can put an entire clip from the hydra into a warthog and it doesnt blow up

[@tyler20647brad]

To be fair I feel like half your issues will be fixed before drop. Like the play list issue to me is just a beta thing I’m sure they have it set up that way so they can get a good sample size on each game mode

[@otherZinc]

All other FTP Games cost more than Halo Infinite! If I were 343 Industries,I'd tell you guys to play PS5s Multiplayer Games.

[@Apears117]

Some of that is hopefully on the way but at the end of the day this is still the free multiplayer beta they released 3 weeks early for us.

[@swaztm]

Also Cross Core Customisation for armour pieces earned or payed for

[@timelordmagnums357]

They need to lower the price on stuff. People don't mind shelling out money as long as they feel they are getting their money worth. Hidden says it's 10 bucks for a couple knives. That's insane.

[@boiboibuddy9343]

10 bucks for a sword that can be only used on one armor set.

[@larrybrander9116]

@@boiboibuddy9343 see, they need to at least make things interchangeable.

[@XArctracerX]

@@larrybrander9116 See I've seen when things are interchangeable on armour cores thanks to the waypoint glitch and it might just be me but those look ugly when you have them interchangeable, but having the option would be great even if you dont use it

[@sandwichdude97]

@@boiboibuddy9343 $15 actually. It’s insanity.

[@soggyfirewood1090]

You forgot the fact that there is literally nothing significant you can ONLY UNLOCK like they promised in the trailers. You can buy tiers in the pass and items in the store, and anything unlockable in game is too easy to get like the yoroi core. This disrespects the fact that in old halo, when someone had good armor, they earned it. And most of the monetization issues are fixed by just making the game paid, this is a triple A title in a long running series, not an iphone game. Make the game 60 dollars and let the player UNLOCK most if not all of the gear so it actually feels earned, and whenever you see someone with good armor you don't just scoff it off as "They must've had a lot of money." That's just my 2 cents.

[@willtrautman6243]

Microsoft knows that by making the game freemium, they are expecting to make well more than 60 bucks a player in the long haul

[@BlindOWLL]

@@willtrautman6243 Exactly. It's so shady.

[@utahtyrant2747]

Going into halo infinite's advertisements, I thought the armor customization would be more inspiring. Where individual armor pieces could mixed and matched into one spartan; like a creating a japanese and halo reach armor combo hybrid. Instead they are sperated by the spartan core system. Personally, this limited customization, greatly disappoints me.

[@BrightNeonYellow]

I understand the controversial topic that is monetization in free to play games, but I agree. I personally think there should've been at least 2 options (default + one more) for the three major armor customization options that affect your looks the most (helmet, chest, shoulders), for free, right out of the gate. If you don't buy the battlepass (which I have BTW, so I'm not whining for myself, but for other players who can't afford it), then you have to grind until TIER 80-ISH just to get a helmet that isn't the default one. Which wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't also compounded with the slow progression touched on in this video.

[@goobawhoba]

Man I miss the Reach system so much. It will never exist in todays industry.

[@garretttekampe9564]

It's really sad. Halo deserves better than a battle pass system. Halo is not even close to call of duty or battle royal games so I can't support the decision to bring it to Halo. They should have just tried keeping the $60 for the campaign and multiplayer with an expandable inventory of unlocks.

[@willtrautman6243]

@@garretttekampe9564 Unfortunately, the reason they don't just say screw it and charge 60 bucks for the game is because they are expecting each player to shell out well above that during the life of the game

[@garretttekampe9564]

@@willtrautman6243 that makes sense. If it works why do anything different.

[@lewislewis4240]

This game has been in the making for 7 years now and the question on my mind is who decided the MP was f2p? 343 or Microsoft. I think it’s Microsoft that made the call for infinite go f2p and i guess that Microsoft was the one who told 343 to put most of the cosmetic and colours behind a BP/ paywall because let’s be honest this is 343 last chance with the fan base to prove that they know halo and I think this game is “the ONE” to bring the fans back together so they don’t have the privilege to be this greedy but Microsoft they are greedy and I hope they change the systems for the best of the players

[@TheBatman39]

My thoughts exactly, i also suspect this is Microsoft's doing (oh boy xbox fanboys are going to spam quite the damage control)

[@theoneand0nly874]

At least you don’t need Xbox live gold to play

[@wolfsden6479]

Yup, it should have just been you buy the game. Now if they let the beta be free then you had to buy it whould make sense.

[@awesomesource12]

My problem is the armours and paint jobs being limited to cores for no reason as the bots mix and match as they like, aswell as the stupidly overpriced cosmetics. The argument of they need to make money from it as it's free to play doesnt justify a colour and two armour pieces costing 30 dollars which is the same price as full games, I would've been fine to drop a little bit of cash here and there for a armour set If it was priced fairly but this is just stupidly expensive. Not to mention the xp system meaning you won't really progress the battle pass without buying challenge skips and xp boosts, they've just monetised something you already have to pay for (season passes). It's halo we are talking about, if they gave us a little extra value for money they wouldn't be hurting in the slightest. Not to mention a colour wheel and set of free armours unlocked at the start wouldn't cost them much, they have already made countless armours before the game even released. We should be buying unique armours and skins that are worth money. The reason I'm upset with this is how predatory the whole system is set up, challenges are functionally lootboxes with little to no reward, shop items are overpriced low effort cash grabs and season passes are advertisements for something I might never be able to fully unlock, the lack of reward has made the gameplay not feel rewarding, and the constant cash grabbing doesn't make me feel like a valued customer

[@SlipspaceEntertainment]

Yea wish there was more motivation to winning. The challenges that I hate are to get kills with certain weapons which really sucks because sometimes that weapon just doesn’t spawn on that map or you’re forced to use a weapon you don’t want to use. I don’t really have a problem with the monetization of armor and stuff because they do need to make money for a free to play game but I wish there was someway to obtain Halo Credits by playing like through the battle pass or seasonal challenges or something

[@DJDawsonEdge]

Based

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

yeah there's no incentive to win.

[@doootuz]

“ Controversial”

[@VictorECaplon]

From my perspective, everything and I mean everything should be earnable in the season pass without too much grind and pay walls. Its not free but its like DLC’s that you can buy and use at any time. No pay wall, just incentives, pay each season and you get everything it has to offer. Progress at your own pace and earn what you get. I don’t want to see players and think they bought that, I want to know they earned it!

[@KingindaNorf]

Man I just wanted to recreate my halo reach Spartan in 2021 graphics without breaking the bank 🤕

[@Msflammer]

Halo infinite monetization feels like something apple would make up. Split everything as much as possible and then sell each piece separately, overpriced. At least that's how I feel with infinite's store (the BP is meh but I don't have an issue with it). Just look how they split everything for the Tenrai event and selling a single katana + emblem for at least 15€. Not even the warzone or fortnite stores are that greedy. It's more akin to mobile gacha games with overpriced currency and selling the product by creating a need for it.

[@DJWoozie]

Still on the hill that while the maps feel alright, they feel less like halo than ever.

[@brycevo]

We need gameplay XP. Give each medal an XP value, then up the XP value of weekly challenges. Should help make things feel and work better

[@Goodjuiced]

Controversial is a massive understatement, the stores fractured into transactions for the most basic colour/armor choices. Talking like $20 for a colour, the battle pass is great in theory however the coatings etc need to go unless theyre actually impressive. At minimum i should be able to equip my coatings to all armors. Ridiculous.

[@zavagezealot1187]

In fortnite, you can buy individual items from a pack. Ex Instead of paying 15 dollars for a coating, chest piece and emblem, you can pay 5 dollars for the specific item you want. Halo infinite should do this.

[@simply4k938]

Yea fortnite has kinda perfected the fp2 type games

[@Duvirii]

The battle pass means NOTHING the instant you let people buy their way through it. Idk how anyone could feel accomplished having something that can just be bought outright. There is no customization. There is nothing to unlock through gameplay. I really wish I could go back and revert my battle pass purchase because it has no earned value and they're just reselling us the same garbage we got for free ELEVEN YEARS AGO. Yeah 343, way to come at this from a 'player first' perspective like how out of touch are they?

[@TheGoldNShadow]

I only dislike the price of credits. If they half the price of all credits, you’d be surprised how much better the store would be.

[@brendenjohnson5509]

I see your sentiment that this system is not bad in comparison to others. My rebuttle would be to look at apex legends progression and customization system. That game is free as well and has many advantages over halo infinite's system while being very profitable. Here are a few of those advantages... In terms of progression -Weekly challenges are given all at once -Weekly challenges can be completed on separate weeks than they are given in -Challenges are more broad rather than specific -Challenges can be completed in every game you load into -Three week events are not separated but consecutive unlike the current fracture in which the weeks arent consecutive. In terms of customization -Offers a crafting currency so you can choose a cosmetic you like -You earn premium currency in the battle pass to spend at your will -Battle Pass and event passes have more cosmetics as compared to Halo infinite's passes being filled with boosts and swaps If one free to play shooter can prove this model to be lucrative, then I'm sure halo can adopt some of these principles and be a very profitable product

[@livingfire1]

It's funny that Halo infinite have everything good except for the lack of mode and maps and the monetization

[@John-it3wn]

Modes will be added on launch and i hope a filter option as well

[@Masternaldo]

Lack of current gen graphics

[@Masternaldo]

Titanfall 1, destiny 1 almost looked the same in 2014 and I'd say Crysis 2, also from that looked 10 times better than this garbage

[@drew5637]

sniper does way too much damage to vehicles, melees are inconsistent due to the "soft" player collision with enemies, and the game kicks you out whenever steam has maintenance on Tuesdays even tho the servers are not hosted on steam and you are logged into the game with your microsoft account lol

[@ooblah10]

@@Masternaldo maybe on your system, halo infinite is the best looking Halo so far. Shits all over those games

[@crimson1443]

The worst thing about all of this, is that the bots clearly show cross core customization! Not only is the monetary system predatory, but there’s not illustrious excuse for most of the decisions.

[@splat-a-tat6780]

I don’t think they’re customizing cross-core as there are different variants of the same armor for each core you buy separately.

[@crimson1443]

@@splat-a-tat6780 Regardless; it’s kind of scummy that we would have to unlock the same armor piece for every core, because I feel like they push that given what we’ve seen thus far. It would be cool to have the same armor on most cores, but not if it includes padded grind.

[@crimson1443]

Errr, well, separate pieces that you might have to grind/purchase. I don’t mind buying unique, reasonable priced cosmetics, but that’s clearly not what they’re going for at the moment. I have faith for now, but we’ll have to wait for 343’s response after thanksgiving

[@gtrblackhawk]

Still perplexed that white is $20

[@sasquatchgaming8102]

I am loving Halo Infinite! As an old halo head who grew up with Halo 1 and Halo 2, I am used to only having a tiny bit of customization in Halo and it means very little to me. In the original games you could only select your armor color. Today’s games are different with being able to customize everything in order to maximize micro transaction profits. Which is understandable, you just have to make content people want to buy and keep it affordable. I personally am Diamond 2 right now and I will probably always use my original armor.

[@kristiankoski3908]

Same here! CE being my favorite Halo multiplayer of all time, all I could do was to change my Spartan to purple! :D Oh time flies, the simplicity back then...

[@sasquatchgaming8102]

@@kristiankoski3908 a fellow Purple! 🤣🙌🏼 I also LOVED Halo CE. So many LAN nights.

[@kristiankoski3908]

@@sasquatchgaming8102 Hahah nice man! 😂 Team purple for the win! Yeah same here, it also introduced me fully to online gaming with its 2003 PC release.

[@TelosBudo]

OG Halo local split screen with friends, then Halo 2 online was a game changer

[@theoneand0nly874]

It’s halo 3 for me I remember all achievements gave you the katana sword to show off letting everyone know u beat the game on legendary and did all the vidmasters

[@ubasperez9991]

08:00 Am I the only one who kinda "heard" all those explosions and impacts? I swear I could hear all of them exploding against the razorback by just looking at the screen

[@tkmoore6657]

So that’s what it looks like when you hit someone with a Skewer 🤔

[@oklahomaroserock6904]

Anyone else think that having to get 5 killing sprees in fiesta is stupid? I hate fiesta and it's all rng

[@Brandon.S.Brooker]

This system has taken away my motivation to customize my character. Besides the offerings of Reach (which I have no desire in wearing), there isn't much in this Battle Pass that clamours my attention. The Coatings are straight up bad and have limited the armor customization system. There are like 10 color options and I would feel more liberated in Halo CE. I don't care if shiny gold looks better, I would like to have Green as a primary and Red as a secondary even if I was unable to change armor texture. Is it too much to ask for both?

[@STRONTIumMuffin]

Second Year UX student and long time halo fan here to say you can easily have your cake and eat it too. Money and progress. People want a good progression system make them pay for one, don't make them pay NOT to use the progression system that what 343 are doing rn. the whole point of progression was to be a reward in the first placed for desired moments and rewards. This can be done easily with red route challenge packs. You buy a challenge pack you get a permanent pass for that area of desirable gameplay, for example lets say theirs a big team themed battle pass and it gives you pilot set armour modularly as you play it through, no conflicting items, 10 games of big team / or 5 wins to get the gloves, then the arms, then helmet, then legs. that way your paying for what you want and it's a measure of how good you are at the game and not hope much money you are willing to fork over. and thus it gives replayability for someone who wants to come back to different modes and get different armours from actual desired behaviour,

[@sofaking1627]

I love how we're all pretty much on the same page on this one. It'll get fixed, and it'll be amazing.

[@UnraveledDreams]

But if they gave us a color wheel... How could they sell us different colors? lmao

[@kieran6417]

Just got disconnected in a game I was top player and about to win. Pretty salty rn ngl.

[@machina5]

I completed 3 challenges in a single match yesterday and it lagged out with 3 minutes left, and it didn't give me credit for any of them. I feel you.

[@Twenty4hourPharmacy]

I can imagine it will be changed soon, atleast we got some communication from sketch

[@Jorary209]

See other games have systems with battlepasses and cosmetics that are better implemented. Games like for honor and warframe have content where you can pay, but also content where you grind for. Both have in game currency that you can farm for and get from missions, challenges that are more doable. For example, for honor has in-game currency where you can buy said currency, but you can earn a heft amount by doing challenges that are doable. They offer daily challenges and longer challenges that refresh every 2 days (dailies reward more currency while the 2 days offer more XP). Also 90% of the cosmetics related to your character are unlockable and only a few are time lomited (event and per season stuff). The only thing that would make it better is if it followed Halo's system where you could buy previous passes and go along with them. So the argument of "well its all cosmetics so it doesn't affect the game" is a poor one. Other games have implemented battlepasses that are, in alot of ways, better and reward players by playing the game, not playing the challenge. Other games are learning from halo and trying to implement them, such as Apex, so why can Halo? And I am of the perspective that this isn't 343's fault more of Microsoft as others have stated.

[@dahgoatgang]

I liked the idea of just more challenges of winning matches, getting kills in general, and getting to the top of the leaderboard. I want to play and have fun and not have to do chores. It's okay to have challenges that make you play a certain way but when most of the challenges are that that's when it becomes an issue. Overall I think Halo Infinite is such a great game and maybe one of the best Halo games ever made. I think they just need to make some improvements to the battle pass system.

[@itstheKT]

What’s the outro song called? It’s so soothing

[@elheroedeltiempo7308]

How can you activate the red pointer? Almost noone has it

[@Jimothy-DeMan]

What Halo Needs. Great Customization and progression system from Halo Reach. Halo 3 story. Halo 1 huge landscapes.

[@creativecorner2071]

I think a solution to at least one of these problems would be to add armor pieces you unlock through long-term achievements and/or very hard to complete tasks. Something like the Hayabusa armor from Halo 2 where you had to find all the hidden skulls. There were many others tied to hard-to-earn achievements, so when you saw that person in the game with the really hard to achieve armor, you recognize the player’s efforts to get it and it makes you want to go earn it too. Having some of those items in addition to the existing ones in the battle pass/store would be a good step in the right direction for customization. Also something cool would be to earn premium credits through ranked every week (the better rank you are, the more currency you unlock) which would allow players to purchase armor pieces. Or better yet, armor that is only achieved by reaching a certain rank like Onyx.

[@derickvenegas]

If 343 does change the prices of the microtransactions I think they should refund the price change difference via Halo Credits to those already paid. Ex. If they initially charge for a bundle 1,000 Halo Credits ($10 USD) and end up changing it to 700 Halo Credits ($7 USD), then 343 would give 300 Halo Credits $3 USD worth) back to the player. That’s my suggestion but seems too generous for Microsoft to approve.

[@samuelskinny]

This video encompasses how I feel tbh. But with changing the progression system I think I know a way it could be fixed. 1. In the free battle pass add more gear in general but make it the bad gray tier stuff.. You still get something but it's not great. 2. In the premium battle pass add infinite coins in the mix. Throughout the whole battle pass add enough coins to buy 2 full bundles in the shop over the whole season. This means you can buy armor pieces along the way or save up for a big purchase. 3. Add skill/achievement based points but cap at like 200 ish xp per match. But make the daily challenges harder. Not more grindy ( like bumping required kills of a weapon from 3 to 50 kills) but harder in general. And have them give like 300xp. (given each tier is 1k xp that means 10 games is a rank up if you are an average player and it will decrease 1/3 by completing hard challenges. This is how you could change it to work in my opinion and I have thought about it a lot

[@_X1M_]

…I keep getting “get kills with commando” I… *🔥HATE THAT GUN!🔥*

[@IanThatMetalBassist]

Oh buddy you think that's bad? Try getting 15 kills with the Gungoose...

[@epsilon3274]

@@IanThatMetalBassist Pain, I love playing the game, but holy shit the customization is horrible 😂

[@machina5]

"Get 1 kill with the Disruptor" I'd rather die.

[@epsilon3274]

@@machina5 same here 😂😂😂

[@bestdogshadow383]

@@machina5 Disruptor is unironically good though. It only takes 6 shots to guarantee a kill.

[@ttv_jc__117]

Thank you for your perspective, as always, articulately put and fairly balanced. Mint Blurz and Hidden Experia just whinging about it was getting on my nerves, I needed this. Imagine complaining that a free to play game is trying to sustain itself. Anyone played F1 games? FIFA? Same garbage reworked with the same bugs every year. Infinite is a long term investment, spend some of your hard earned to show your commitment.

[@Dahly3889]

Personally I think the current system stinks for long time Halo players and that they're just trying to wait out the negative feedback to let the new system establish itself as the new norm.

[@RareCandyTCG]

Short term solutions: ⚫ Add a reoccurring daily "Win a Match" challenge for an additional 50-100 XP ⚫ Remove ALL weekly challenges that distort player behavior in-game. No "Get 10 kills with the sentinel beam" and instead double down on broad ones such as "Win 10 BTB Matches," "Get 50 kills," etc. ⚫ Slash prices for all store items by 50% OR keep the absurd prices but allow small amounts of currency to be earned in-game. ⚫ Limit store items to over-the-top and special non-canon cosmetics such as the HCS skins, holiday items, fractures, etc and allow players to earn normal canon pieces in-game or via Battle Pass ⚫ Allow armor coatings to be used across armor cores ⚫ Allow players to mix and match armor between canon armor cores and only apply the current limitation to fractures and other non-canon sets ⚫ Allow players to earn credit towards next season's Battle Pass

[@jeffjberry]

What mic are you using? Sounds good.

[@grahamjohnson4259]

My biggest problem with skins is I can't customize anything if that skin is equipped. Why can't I put a different logo on my spartan or customize the armor while keeping the paint scheme

[@owenlloyd3903]

I feel that we should get more cosmetic upgrades by playing the game, I know from a corporate standpoint and it being a free game it would suicide for the company and I wouldn’t mind if they still kept the majority of customizations in the battle pass but there are a lot of people who can’t spend to much on a video game but I can still see the corporate side of the story but still if you have a piece of cool armor that you worked hard for it makes it even cooler to wear. I will keep a open mind and none of this has to do with the game, I love the gameplay and I have hope for the future of halo. As a final note thank you for making this video it opened my view to all points of the story, have a nice day.

[@InfernoPhilM]

Bounties or challenges should always contribute to playing the objective and winning. I’m surprised 343 didn’t learn from Bungie’s bounty system from Destiny. Players do whatever is necessary to check the box, whether it’s backing out from a match that won’t complete their challenge or camping the power weapon spawn to get that certain weapon type kill rather than being a good Spartan and playing the obj.

[@jasonmorris9330]

The worse part about this monetization? Microsoft doesn't need to do it

[@V1CT1MIZED]

Money is one hell of a drug

[@simply4k938]

The most potent of them all

[@Kloxterz]

One of the best "game pass - progress" systems that I know about is the one in Rocket league: 3 weekly challenges (6 with game pass) And like 10 or 15 harder challenges each month or so that will give more stuff. Some challenges give items, others just give exp to accelerate the progression in the "battle pass". You get to also gain exp each match (50% extra with battle pass). I find myself leveling as fast as I want to and I love it. You can also buy items if you want to, so they still make money aside the battle pass. This monetization system should be used for more games, just like Halo cause I love the game indeed, but I hate its customization system. I would love to have a Spartan looking just like the one I had in reach, but I don't think that will happen soon...

[@isaacfrand3824]

Perfect world idea here - halo 5’s REQ system for customization and infinite gameplay

[@matthewdaub]

Are there plans for a Halo reach retrospective?

[@radioactive5882]

3 suggestions, remove paint locks, make all armor interchangable (includes visors), and add more challenges/raise xp per match (add performance bonus)

[@ryanhamstra49]

I wish that the campaign came with the battle pass. If you are going to buy the full game then you should get the full game. It still wouldn’t be pay to win, I just feel that the $60 spent on the game should be complete.

[@garretttekampe9564]

Armor was kind of the main goal of ranking up. That can't be lumped in the same category for non essential cosmetics like it could be for other games because it's really different for Halo, even though it doesn't affect gameplay. Now that it's locked up with payment is a huge slap in the face and it's extremely manipulative. Everything other than armor can be a paid thing as far as I'm concerned. Also the players really need to be and to mix and match things as well as colors, there's really no reason at all that they need to be defined with coatings and cores.

[@kanishksingh5146]

One possible solution could be - Keeping the price tags on all things as they are (or reducing a bit), but also make them earnable through good gameplay. For this they would also have to implement xp rewards for good gameplay (medals, score etc). The more expensive an item is, it could be made equally harder to earn. This would also take care of people who were quick on their wallet to buy some items already. A possible outcry over this could be people saying "now I can't tell if this person with this armor core earned it or bought it". Well, that's a very small issue imo and people will just get used to the change.

[@kanishksingh5146]

If they can't implement the xp rewards for good gameplay without a complete overhaul, then there is the alternative of what Same Token suggested in this video about daily challenges to "win the game as a team" etc.

[@Doommaster677]

Absolutely loving the multiplayer so far and I'm glad to see 343 acknowledging the issues quickly but let's see what steps they take to rectify the issue

[@xXLtCHEESYXx]

I love this guys voice makes the videos x100 better than they already were

[@jhrandomvidsofficial]

Me and my friend played this a few days ago spent probably about 3 hours of matches just for one of us to reach rank 1. The unlocks if any weren't that good and it feels like when you go to customise your spartan theres not that much for options. Colour swatches that are predetermined and often locked behind money but with only a few showing. My guess is they'll release more armour pieces and colour swatches in the future. However one thing I did enjoy was seeing the use of prosthetics which isnt locked behind money.

[@gameroxi]

The fact that getting back my old look from Reach will cost me tons of time *and* money makes me not want to play

[@lunchbox997]

I do not have a problem with paid cosmetics as long as they're cheap, but I do not like how: A.) Expensive the ones in Halo Infinite are. B.) Some armor that is from Halo Reach is not on the Reach battle pass and not earnable without paying. C.) Rotating in and out of the store creating a FOMO atmosphere, even though they said the core tenet of Halo Infinites design is to not have FOMO.

[@liltyking25]

I would love to go back to the color wheel and armor customization from Reach

[@fishclaspers361]

This is definitely due to Microsoft. I am willing to bet Microsoft mandated that 343 implement this into the game.

[@larrybrander9116]

Love that word "mandated" .......NOT !

[@garretttekampe9564]

I'm sure it was. I hope they can see what damage it does verses what to the player base and knock it off. Unfortunately it makes more money per player than a standard $60 even if there are less players there might be more income from the shop and battle pass purchases. Halo never deserved to suffer a battle pass system.

[@simply4k938]

It’s the Wales man

[@HeySweaterBoy]

I hate how much time and work this guy puts into his videos and he doesn’t get enough ATTENTION!!! these are so good!

[@jonathandear4914]

I feel you've missed out on the topic of armour coatings being unnecessarily restrictive in application, which is another major source of contention when it comes to armour customisation what they've done is taken Destiny's shader system (preset colours you can apply on your guardian no matter the class you play) and made it excessively restrictive, limiting our customisation options even more than we initially thought. a good bandaid for that is to make all Coatings universal, rather than restrictions which may result in a situation where you have to buy the same colour twice or more cause you can't use it on the core you want. Warframe's pallet system would've been preferable to this even more restrictive system.

[@sloan791]

My problem with infinite (it's why i'm still playing Reach and wanna have 5 on pc now) is where are the female in Halo ? Like in 5 and Reach female were female now we have like in 3 only male spartan with female voice...

[@thawkade]

There's differing body types, it's just not very obvious. It only really affects waist and chest size slightly.

[@tshoty]

Great vid man 👍🏻. Def would like to see some daily’s like that, but also really want a core xp progression rank, like halo reaches. Cuz for context if we’re being honest seeing someone with “purchased” armor can make them feel lame, cuz of the inherent “this guys a shill, or they don’t even play” factor, so having the reach xp rank would at least for me incentivize not only playing more, but being more willing to mabes buy a store set once ina blue moon, knowing people will see my rank, and not associated me with someone who doesn’t even play.

[@cynobi4696]

I wish the armor system didn't restrict you to armor cores. I'm convinced it's just a way to reuse content to sell in the store. The lore/immersion argument is redundant because there are are loads of pre-existing content to disprove it. The bots and mods we've seen disprove the clipping argument. This issue contributes to the poor monetization and I feel like it's a bigger issue than the store. Segregated armor means each piece is inherently worth less, because it's not flexible in application.

[@nitroundertaker]

I’ve gotten to the point where I’m skipping the battle passes just to get the Anubis armor.

[@sergiogonzalezbellido3865]

I think the solution would be to have a general nucleus for everything and improve that customization, and the system now requires us to do some exploitation so that they understand me. In this pass, for example, Carter's armor is not complete, they give you a pack that you must use as it is, you cannot change even the color and if you want to assemble it separatelyIt is filtered what you can not and you will have to buy it separately. It is the same married to Emil Kate that not all his pieces are in the pass, let's say that tomorrow a package with a member of the blue team Then they charge you at an amount but that character will not be customizable but if you want to use his helmet and his visor Andres, you have to pay for a package that brings the helmet another package that brings the The chest and so on so it is that they are you and so on so it is that they are selling you a character in three different parts or in a single useless having skins that way they are not a Player friendly

[@juantsu2000]

A lot of this could be solved (regarding the f2p thing) by just giving people that buy the campaign enough credits to buy the first two Battlepasses.

[@matthewlopez3091]

Reach style customization with purchasable credits and a few whole armor sets for sale

[@SadboiShinobi22]

i mean to be fair half of the objectives are literally "win a game, play 3 of this game, get 10 kills" its not like insannnely out of the realm of just what is going to happen when you play in general

[@XArctracerX]

I always felt there should be roughly three daily challenges somewhere along the lines of get five kills or win two matches which would help with progression

[@teneesh3376]

They really do need to fix the monetisation. Player count is going down, and I think part of the issue is the monetisation. A lot of people want to be rewarded when winning a match or doing something worth being rewarded for. But we are given nothing for doing this. Personally, I just want something for winning a match. Just anything. And with the prices being way too much, I just stopped playing the multiplayer

[@saeseetiin5585]

It's unfortunate that the armor is ludicrously expensive. 20 bucks is more than an entire DLC in some games.

[@d.a1882]

They need to bring back the match selection of Halo 5 or TMCC. The selection system of this game is broken. If the core of the progression system are the challenges, maybe they can bring back the classic menu of match selection and don’t play 917273728 matches of CTF when you don’t need to. The time of the people is important, and they didn’t think on that.

[@GueyDuck13]

Kind of wish they would use warframe colour palette system and have patterns as a monetization extra

[@huevocartoonable]

Dude i just can't wait until you talk about Halo Infinite's campaign, it was so amazing!

[@antoniorios3856]

the whole system needs a rework, basically what reach had, challenges and a ranking system. What infinite adds is more customization

[@MariNate1016]

Having colours be locked behind a battlepass is ridiculous.

[@maraudershields283]

I think there’s so thing to be said about earning cosmetics over simply buying them. Back when customisation was first introduced, we sported our armour to show how much time and effort we put into being good. But now it’s an indication of how much money we’re willing to spend. Case in point; I used to rock the Katana because because on some level, I knew players would see it and know I’d managed to get all the Achievements, and view me positively. In Infinite, I’ve pretty much stopped using the one HCS kit that I bought, because I know some players will see its and view me negatively, as just another whale propping up the unfriendly system. It’s a weird pickle of a situation I find myself in, and I’m sure there are others who feel this way.

[@saint2564]

My viewpoint on the store is as follows: 1. Armor/colors/visors should be free and earned via gameplay since that had always been a free feature to halo previously. Also, when assassinations are added to the game they also should be free. 2. I understand that a F2P model needs to make money and 343 could do this by monetizing cosmetics that are new to the franchise (ai colors/voices, weapon/vehicle customization, player stances, and emotes). 3. The store is definitely overpriced and needs to be reworked.

[@h0gheadS]

The rotating store bundles need to go. Everything that's been released should be purchasable individually at any time. They can have discounts and promos, but if I want the color white I shouldn't have to wait for months if I missed a bundle in the first week. That's the definition of FOMO, and it's kind of predatory here. Also, it would be really nice to be able to earn premium credits just by playing the game, even if it's at a pretty slow pace. That would give long-term players personal goals to strive for once they're done with a season pass.

[@volt8ge]

Yes! Give players more reason to play the objective! That’s what’s sadly missing from most games now a days. The weekly challenges definitely need another overhaul. I completed them but it feel it took waaaay to long to do so. There is too much RNG involved and not skill with these challenges. I do believe the Mist unfortunate part of customizing your player is the colors. Luckily I’ve got armor I like so far. But I think the newest terien (so) armor needs better colors and I’d rather just color it myself.

[@emmanuelmorales1428]

I like challenges.. but honestly these challenges can really be off putting. Like “get 10 heatwave kills” and I primarily play ranked so I’m not going to throw the game for a few challenges.. they should add medal challenges and milestones

[@blightedblue2762]

I appreciate the suggestion of more daily bounties focused on skill. It is some what frustrating to go 12 -2 and then get 50 xp.

[@jrock3805]

I think a good way to go about XP would be to give players 100 XP for finishing a match. Getting kills should be 10 XP and assist should be 5 XP. For a example you get 15 kills with 5 assist and with finishing the match you get 275 XP all together. You get rewarded for your performance and whatever challenges you complete. Going through the battle pass wouldn't feel so dreadful and long. I think this is fair.

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

I'm fine with the monetization. It's a bit expensive and just being slightly cheaper would be good, but like I am happy to shell out a bit of money to my favorite game for guaranteed unlocks

[@beleagueredbeluga5228]

Yeah, I got a revolutionary solution here for the monetization problem in Infinite. Make it so that you get more base xp for just playing matches (and even more xp for better performances) to seriously cut down on the grind, rework the challenge system so that the thing is just secondary for progression, and ffs slash all the ridiculous prices in the store by at least 50%. There, all these basic and positive changes were thought about in all of 10 seconds right now. Really big brain stuff. But I can already hear the nut hugging 343 apologists say, ''oh its so impossibly difficult to implement such changes now'', welp, I have simple questions for those people. Is 343 staffed with video game developers? Are there any creative video game developers at 343 that we can speak to so that they can figure it out here? Because if they were the ones that fucked it up in the first place, then im sure that they can figure out a way unfuck it. "B-but muh free to play". STFU. The suits will still get their money, they just wont get ALL the money.

[@colepryor8651]

Simple solution, lessen the cost of the packs, and once you get it you should have all the armor unlocked rather than buying it and having to unlock it

[@JohnJones-yk5qk]

I’m half way through the campaign and I’m torn between loving it and feeling core things we’re screwed up, the driving is beyond broken, sad to see cause was so much fun in all halo games…like how they are trying new things like open world, not sure if it worked, still it’s better than 4/5 that’s for sure

[@ROOSTER333]

343 did good. We all work hard for our money and anyone wanting to pay to look cool is more than able too. I don't really care about multi player, I just want a rich and epic campaign with chief. I'm just a halo fan that's been playing since 2001, and 343 has done some good for once

[@FrostsorrowGaming]

..... If you consider the amount of time that this has been in development and the cost involved in that time.. I dont really think this is a bad call. If we want games to be awesome and well crafted and be FREE to play they have to recoup costs somehow. Also we most likely will see changes made as this progresses and they just need USEFUL feedback. Also we might see some integration to the battle pass for those of us that have game pass.... ohh yea and the regular halo infinite campaign will be available for game pass owners... and not have to drop the additional cost to purchase. I think people have to look at the big picture here, a lot of games and companies behind these games are turning things into a Software as a Service model. SaaS can be good and bad depending on the users needs, but mostly works out since you are getting access to MORE overall vs a single one and done purchase. Anyhow, give it time.. let them tweak it and it will turn out to probably be one of the best offerings out there.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

Gameplay is good needs a couple tweaks, but the monatization needs some fixing, customization really needs some changes, But the biggest problem i see right now is there is no incentive for winning. another big problem is armor cores... not the cores themselves but the options for them. I would really like to see more mK VII customization. If they give away some of those credits for free say in an event to intice people to get more, that could work for them...

[@Marcraftification]

i tried to watch this but all i heard was the sound of someone choking on something.

[@KillerTacos54]

Honestly 343 nailed the Battle Pass in that there’s no time limit and you can choose which one you want to get. Of course there are a lot of other things they need to work on though