The Heretic Terminals

[@FreemanicParacusia]

“Anything still alive in orbit is our enemy. The humans have very good cause to kill us on sight, and the knowledge you share with me casts doubt on the entire purpose of our Covenant. If any of our ships remain above us, they are not the help you seek.” Can we take a moment to appreciate just how adaptable this guy was? He grasped QUICKLY the implications of the situation he found himself in and reformulated his plans accordingly.

[@LORRANANASTÁCIO-i9i]

YES

[@rhysnichols8608]

Would love to have seen him talk to some humans and try and forge some alliance.

[@lumboah3922]

He was such a cool character, I wish he hadn't had opened fire on the arbiter

[@dragonslayer9547]

I do not understand I do not understand i do not understand 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sayaka1408]

He did not have the time to explain. He had to escape the free falling gas mine

[@tfw8738]

@@sayaka1408 I’m sure if 343 explained what the rings did, the arbiter would of not killed the heretic leader.

[@4_Low_Off_Road]

Bro my poop comes out of my ass and onto the kitchen floor 😂😂

[@gabethebabe3337]

@@tfw8738 yeah but Tartarus likely would afterwards and he likely would have reported Arbiter as a heretic for not killing the leader.

[@alduinfr]

"Greetings! I'm 343 Guilty Spark! :)" Jackals: *he is too dangerous to be kept alive*

[@Ro-Ghost]

You're not very smart "Mind your tongue" Oh I wasn't meaning you just your whole species Isn't that even more of an insult?

[@feiht9872]

“I’m starting to fear that your not very smart.” “Mind your tongue, Oracle.” “Oh, I mean no offense, I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about your species

[@troppie7823]

He’s so cute

[@orangypteco8858]

He's not really insulting them, moreso hes pointing out the ignorance of the Sangheili and Covenant as a whole. Of course, 343 doesn't really have understanding of subtlety and he doesn't hesitate to be direct.

[@halopro8958]

“I do not understand” -40% of Sesa Rufamee’s dialogue

[@TheSpartanboy10]

Well hey he was lied to his entire life what do you expect?

[@Chuked]

@@TheSpartanboy10 everything he ever did was for nothing 😪

[@Albert_EGGsker]

In the words of an arbiter: “THE JOURNEY IS A LIE!”

[@inquisitorialstormtrooper2084]

He wanted to free his people, to free Sanghelios from the Prophets. He died trying to tell the truth, and yet it was carried on by his people’s champion, Thel Vadam, the Arbiter

[@briansmith2739]

At least his death was not in vain. The Arbiter did find the truth later in the game.

[@explosivedolphinz8710]

I could watch this over and over again. Two very intelligent characters just simply having a conversation and collecting answers. It really shows how manipulative and dictating the prophets were.

[@mannyoommen2768]

The heretic leader was right the whole time

[@dragonlord1997]

The prophets has done a great job brainwashing arbiter and his comrades.

[@TheSchemer1]

8:31 I don't know what's more savage, the fact that he said it or the fact that he sees no issue with insulting someone's species in such a casual tone XD

[@hambok3714]

"I shall cast them all into the mists below for daring such a blasphemy" If I remember correctly there wasn't a single jackal when you are sent to take out the heretics he was not kidding

[@rhysnichols8608]

But spark said to chill out so it’s highly unlikely he would’ve actually done that to the jackals

[@cycoticmongoose]

Something really cool that I hadn’t realized about the Heretic elite faction is that they painted all their stuff in the colors of Sanghelios, to represent their split from the Covenant. I had always just assumed that they were a special covenant detachment that painted equipment in those colors.

[@actualdalek715]

it is sad he didnt last long i would like to see his story continue but it is what it is

[@HalosHeretic]

Oh definitely. But think of it this way: He wanted the Sangheili to see through the lies of the Prophets, and he knew Thel 'Vadam would be the best candidate to lead the Sangheili. Most Sangheili know the truth and Thel 'Vadam is leading the Swords of Sanghelios. Sesa may not have lived to see it, but his message saved the Sangheili ;)

[@actualdalek715]

yep and he made a wise choice i hope thel made mention of him someday in the history of his story or even a stature tribute him :)

[@actualdalek715]

been knowing so but may the hereti- i mean the true hero rest in peices in thels name

[@HalosHeretic]

Actual Dalek A statue probably won't happen, but a line from Thel would be pretty awesome. Something like ''He was right all along, and i was too blind to see"

[@aqworldshayabusa1114]

He was a framing device more or less. He was a great character, dont get me wrong, but the only purpose he served within the story was planting the seeds of doubt in Thel. The Prophets had no reason to believe Thel would return from Threshold as ,for all intents and purposes, it was meant to be a suicide mission. That way, the heretics would be out of their way, and even if Thel had begun to realize the true nature of the Halo's he would be long dead before he could do anything about it. I believe that, thanks to the doubt placed in him by Sesa, the entirety of the Great Schism happened. I believe that the Prophets panicked when the Arbiter returned from the gas mine, because they would have plenty of reason to believe that he would hear plenty of heretical words there. And after that point, dispatching of Thel wouldnt be enough, the entirety of the Sangheili had to be dealt with. So, Truth pulled back the fleet on Delta Halo just before they could save Regret from the Chief, blamed the entire Sangheili race for his death, and thus instituted the changing of the guard. And the rest is history, all thanks to Sesa.

[@Chuked]

I hate how instead of explaining to Arbiter that everything he ever knew was a lie, he just taunts him and you kill him as arbiter

[@aussieman4791]

Probably due to the way og Halo 2 went, can't change it too much without severally impacting the overall Story

[@woodrubber4538]

9:30 You can see Ripa Moramee from Halo Wars.

[@ray-0249]

So that’s what happened to all the jackals stationed on that platform.

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

But what about the one that lost his hands, in pretty sure they can survive that, also there had to be more at least

[@S113Productions]

@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 Pretty sure they were all killed. The Jackals being with Sesa's fleet was retconed by 343 in the CE terminals, but if we're going by their lore, most likely the Jackals were all killed weeks before the Arbiter showed up since the Jackals were extremely loyal to the Prophets... well, not really, they just sided with whatever side benefited them most; they didn't care between right or wrong. But if we're going by real world logic... well, it wasn't in Halo 2's development, only through 343's storytelling. During the Great Schism, a majority of the Jackals sided with Truth, but some did end up siding with the Elites. Siding with Sesa after the truth being revealed by Guilty Spark served no benefit for them, and the Jackals are pirates after all and they aren't getting paid on Sesa's time. If the Jackals were getting paid, they probably would've stayed with them. The Jackals were also not an honorable race like the Elites and Grunts are, so that's why Sesa's faction had no Jackals, only moral Elites and Grunts. I actually don't know why 343 added Jackals with them, that's kind of a plot hole because not a single Jackal was seen or mentioned in Halo 2 when you invade the gas mine. 343 could've fixed this by adding a new line in Halo 2 Anniversary with an Elite saying, "Where are the Jackals? We were informed some would be with these Heretics!"

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

@@S113Productions yeah I know on how jackals sided with them only due to money or benefits, and how they weren’t honorable. But that plot hole is confusing, since no jackals were even there, there had to be at least some survivors, and spark only killed 2, and the one that had its hands cut off, should’ve been able to live

[@deagle.2]

How i would have had The Heretic to go: Given that Sesa Refumee has deemed Thel Vadam his friend, it would be more fitting if he hadn't shot at Arby first. When the Arbiter sees Guilty Spark, the Heretic and Spark explain begin to explain to Arby about the Halo array and how the Great Journey is a lie. However, mid way through, Tartarus appears and opens fire on The Heretic. The Heretic, enraged and thinking that his friend, the Arbiter, has betrayed him and led Covenant reinforcements over, proceeds to open fire on the Arbiter and Tartarus's phantom. Tartarus flies away and the Heretic and Arbiter engage in the same mini boss fight they have in the game. In his dying breath, he warns Arbiter on the Prophets' true intent, and to be wary of the validity of the Great Journey. Guilty Spark repeats his same lines as in the cutscene before being magnetised by Tartarus's hammer, who has now landed his Phantom. Tartarus drags the Heretic's body, and throws him over the platform. The story continues the same exact way, just that this expands the "friendship" between Sesa and Thel, as the former mentioned in the cutscene. Additionally, the Arbiter has more of a reason to doubt the great Journey, and doesn't simply switch sides jsut because the Gravemind told him to

[@azarishere6442]

This is now my head canon

[@simplycomplicated2357]

If only the writers had such sense.

[@Southhs]

You seem to say this under the assumption that Sesa recognized Thel?

[@deagle.2]

@@Southhs bro the arbiter wears a helmet not a balaclava how tf do you not recognise your own pals lmao

[@Southhs]

@@deagle.2 cos a) the arbiter helmet covers practically 5/6s one's face, b) there doesn't seem to be much that distincts Thel from other sangheili when it comes to faces, and c) Rtas is wearing what looks to be goggles over his eyes

[@onetailedjin]

In starting to fear that your not very smart....guilty spark is a badass😂

[@flashn00b]

He has an energy emitter that's roughly the strength of a Spartan Laser.

[@GodyP]

Damn that voice actor for that first elite really dropped the ball

[@bleachthatisdirty8938]

Is the Heretic your favorite character??

[@HalosHeretic]

Jason Voorhees 8 He is ;), who's your favorite character?

[@bleachthatisdirty8938]

Halo's Heretic my favorite halo character is the Arbiter from Halo Wars!!

[@lumboah3922]

Jason Voorhees 8 ripa moramee, good choice

[@lucaspeck7995]

Mine is the heretic arbiter

[@samuraigaming4975]

Yup

[@lastfirst5863]

I wish the Humans had found Sesa instead of the Arbiter...

[@bossshun9]

That would have been a hard conversation to have with him given the fact that he had a small faction at his back.

[@bossshun9]

If only he had kept this knowledge a secret and spread it to others in various ways, Sesa would have been quite the hero of his people. In the end, he still was.

[@rustyfool3740]

At least they attempted to explain why sessa tried to kill Arbiter without letting spark explain

[@FreemanicParacusia]

Might have worked better if he had just tossed down his weapons and let Spark do the talking. Then again they might have just killed the Arbiter if he came back with any inkling of what he would have learned. Maybe the whole point was to simply plant the seeds of doubt in the hope that they would grow in time.

[@catwithagun7410]

God I just realized that Miguel Ferrer voiced a colorful range of characters from heretic leader to A god of Death

[@SpartanGeppy]

This was one of the best halo videos I've ever watched. If onl y he let the Oracle tell the full story to th e arbiter.

[@lumboah3922]

You've been doing exceptionally well with making great content, definitely got my sub

[@lumboah3922]

And notifications on

[@HalosHeretic]

Thank you so much! I'll definitely continue to do my best to make great content for you guys

[@lumboah3922]

Halo's Heretic that's ok And thanks for the great content, your channel will blow up soon I'm sure of it :)

[@GodyP]

The heretic leader had so much potential they really should’ve done more with him

[@williamoldaker5348]

I am 100% happier too own his Mega Construx fig.

[@Sinn0100]

I simply don't have the words...who made this video? I mean the story, art, graphics, and voice work? It is absolutely breathtaking.

[@GodyP]

Except for that first elite, the voice acting is insanely good especially for a video game

[@DE0.01]

when everyone said legends wasn't cannon, now it is

[@matthewrhodes3804]

8:32 = 90% of the population

[@gsamalot]

one of the thing I loved about these terminals that it gave us some insight to how blinded the religion the covenant had around the forunners and how the prophets used that to stay in power

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

What's the lore behind the armour "The Heretics" wear? I always assumed it was a modified version of the Ranger armor designed for hazardous operations

[@stealthSGMB]

Is it ever stated why the Heretic Elites wear that style of armor? It’s very different from the standard elite armor and it seems they were originally deployed to the platform in that armor, so does it denote and certain role or unit?

[@crylec6534]

They are wearing a special harness to be used for mining. Judging how all of them have a rebreather system.

[@Psychosomatic63]

Gameplay reasons: to differentiate them from ally elites and grunts Possible lore reasons: it is stated they were sent to the gasmine on an expedition and from looking at the armor it appears to be a modified variant of the ranger set, and rangers are sent on the more shall we say... gruesome missions, often times failure of these missions meant the most painful of deaths and rangers were volunteers meaning they risked these terrible deaths for pride and honour, now as I said it appears to be a modified version of the ranger set so perhaps a spec ops (special operations) variant for even worse missions? Or considering the rebreathers they wear perhaps a hazop (hazardous operations) variant for compromised zones (flood outbreak and various other bio hazards)and it uses the ranger set as a base for greater mobility in these compromised zones, they were sent to the presumed gasmine on an expedition to glean info of how it operates and learn of it's purpose, aswell as search it for anything the covenant considers a holy relic, considering the gasmine was unknown and mysterious it would make sense to send a hazop squad there just in case it was compromised by bio hazards. now personally I think it's a hazop variant of the ranger set for compromised zones but it could be any number of things, apologies for the long reply but I do hope you at least got some form of an answer from it.

[@CuriousityFTW]

The selection of the Arbiter sounds really familiar to a certain someone...

[@tycario43.keyblade-master.4]

I do understand him and his race it was sad to hear but now the prophet are long gone now

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

Well, at least the grunts didn’t die, freaking jackals, but even though we see some here, how come none are in the levels, we clearly see that not all jackals died

[@lukethelegend6370]

Idk, halo 2 was pretty rushed and they probably didn't have enough time to come up with heretic jackal designs

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

@@lukethelegend6370 oh, that makes sense. The game was still good, even if its was rushed and not everything they wanted. Also, since jackals and jackal snipers were a real pain in the ass in halo 2, maybe them not being here was a good idea

[@mauriciolizarbe4835]

Our prophets are false, open your eyes, my brothers, they would use the faith of our forefathers to bring ruin to us all, the great journey is a ????

[@rhysnichols8608]

is a LIE!! Halo is nothing but a galaxy purging weapon built by the forerunners to wipe out the flood and all that they might feast on! None other than the oracle has revealed this information to me.

[@undefinedindefinitely2904]

This....this explains much. Is there anymore lore on the prophets? If so please share.

[@DirectorOfTheMultiverse]

Thel Vadamee the commander who lead the fleet of particular justice after he failed to prevent master chief from decimating and damaging the ring was ordered to return to high charity but since after his objective was disrupted the prophets made a example of him brandishing him a heretic striping him and his titles and ranks than delivered to the prophets to take up the mantle of the arbiter and you know the rest. This is just for any fans who are new to the series and wanted to know how the events came about during halo 2s story

[@kobthetroll]

1:43 sounded like a lightsaber

[@ericprint3576]

To think I remember Miguel ferrer the most for his role in robocop and he had a lighter voice back then

[@darryljones3009]

He didn't do the voice in the Terminals since he was suffering from throat cancer. John DiMaggio (Bender) did.

[@Cabula1977]

1:06 poor grunt :( i prefer that desing of heretic grunt

[@yapyapthedestroyer2562]

Right, at least the grunts survived, but the jackals that lived, what happened to them, we never see them

[@danielturner9681]

How come there was not heretic jackals on the Arbiter missing or heretic hunters be awesome

[@vladimirrashkovsky6274]

My therory: the San Shyuuum knew the truth about the Halo rings but after Forerunner tech turned their people from “beautiful Godlike beings” into feeble diseased testicles they became Efilists due to having absolute power and still having a 1/10 as their most memorable intimate experience

[@Xamsims]

Tfw you spent time killing the actual good guys.

[@theone-tg4ey]

I was the good guy idiots

[@NixMaster3k]

Tiktok: creates corona virus challenge God: 8:32

[@spacepirate9055]

So what was that grunt doing, that he got hit by that jackle? The way hes breathing sounds like he was hording idk oxygen or something which then the jackle found him or maybe he was just doing his job and the jackle was being mean to him like any other jackle do to any grunts

[@KatarinaBohtana]

Sesa best character in all of Halo.

[@jonathanz.9675]

I love the heretics. So cool

[@kageyoshi37]

I rate this guy, hes a g

[@Nolongerhereanymore]

O no...

[@laertsujindeathstick]

Only works in Crystal Cave when (Sans) [Scales]

[@vladimirrashkovsky6274]

10:54 ok but if so then why did you shoot him in the middle of 343 Guilty Spark explaining it? He was clearly listening until then.

[@CheezSamuri]

who shot 1st? Han Solo and This Guy

[@ethankerr05]

I Do not understand

[@troppie7823]

“Im starting to fear that your really fucking dumb”

[@ethankerr05]

@@troppie7823 mind your tongue oracle

[@troppie7823]

Flip “Oh, I mean no offense, I am not talking about U, I am talking about your species......and you 😈 “

[@Redkodiak1994]

Don't remember this part of the game

[@oglthecaptain]

make more

[@TheDevilHydraProdsXXII]

343rd like 😂

[@Indra_fahri_redfield]

4:55

[@marihitaingobernable2236]

I have a theory I believe that the elites in Halo 4 though 5 are actually heretic terminals because of there teeth on their lips the elites in Halo 4 have teeth on their lips

[@chimerasuchus]

Some Sangheili have teeth on their mandibles, some don't. It has nothing to do with which factions they are a part of.

[@scar2871]

"Heteric Terminals" Lmao

[@Ro-Ghost]

You do realise they're the same species in different armour right?

[@TerryLestrange]

You have 666 likes, I wanted to give another like but I just cannot change it. I love Sesa Refumee, the heretic leader. I wished Halo Infinite had more of these kind of story telling. Right now it does miss that a lot. The Banished is awesome but the story telling is very bad. Thanks for the upload!

[@tobsmonster2]

Microsoft sink millions intoa piece of shit game like Halo 5, but can't find a decent animation budget for this. Looking like early 2000's CG out here.