The Underdogs Of Raiding #5 - Enhancement Shaman

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Hamsterwheel

Hamsterwheel

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@MyViolador
@MyViolador 6 жыл бұрын
as a shaman main it really pissed me off that they gave bloodlust to almost every class.
@Benzon30
@Benzon30 6 жыл бұрын
ikr. that was cruel man
@SeriousFoxPwnz
@SeriousFoxPwnz 6 жыл бұрын
you mean mages and a specific hunterpet?
@Sean-df3dv
@Sean-df3dv 6 жыл бұрын
Drums
@newtondamon
@newtondamon 6 жыл бұрын
the point is bloodlust was shamans thing
@genertec
@genertec 5 жыл бұрын
@Noob Master it's not almost every class but EVERY class since u can simply buy bloodlust in form of drums from the auction house.
@DagothDaddy
@DagothDaddy 4 жыл бұрын
I wish twohander enhancement Shamans come back. I loved the flavor of being this baddass Warrior powered by the elements swinging around a giant hammer. It fit well with Ret Pallys being twohander wielding warriors powered by the light.
@OrcBit
@OrcBit 6 жыл бұрын
Shaman. Best Class.
@weeabooshunter4759
@weeabooshunter4759 6 жыл бұрын
*In your opinion
@orec1424
@orec1424 6 жыл бұрын
no, best class
@FecalMatador
@FecalMatador 5 жыл бұрын
Orec in wotlk, it was the best
@van7915
@van7915 5 жыл бұрын
Paladin is the best class
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 5 жыл бұрын
As it turned out, every spec I wanted to play in WoW turned out to be a meme spec.
@aleksadmitrovic6347
@aleksadmitrovic6347 5 жыл бұрын
Lol same bro 😂
@bombatheshaman408
@bombatheshaman408 6 жыл бұрын
I mained enhance during vanilla and tbc era, there are couple of things worth mentioning. In TBC, ever since it launched all the way to Black Temple patch, there was a bugg that enabled you to ignore the internal cooldown of windfury, therefore boosting your dps by considerable amount. You see, even though you could dual-wield, you still had that 3 second hidden CD, during which you were locked out of the proc chance, (this existed in vanilla aswell, but only from patch 1,4 or 1,5) BUT, if you would down-rank your windfury spell on the off-hand weapon, while keeping your main hand with highest rank ( like this main hand windfury rank 5, off-hand rank 4) this would override the 3sec cooldown, causing in a dps gain beein alot more then Blizzard had intended, this was actually well known to highly ranked shamans, but virtually unheard of to most 'casuals' and other classes. Obviously, you can't see this on private servers, as they only emulate the 2.4.3 version, as this was to about 2.3.x
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was gonna say my DPS in TBC was way higher with enhance than elem. I was consistently top of the meters without much effort. And then wrath came along and I don't remember much other than being pissed off every patch
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
And I'd regularly run around with a 2h still in pvp wearing just a Santa outfit blowing people up. Good times.
@kevinbelden
@kevinbelden 5 жыл бұрын
I remember coming to know this without finding out about it anywhere and watched the numbers grow like “do I want to exploit this glitch?”
@MrVanhoden
@MrVanhoden 5 жыл бұрын
Hamsterwheel is off so many times. I raided in Kharazan on retail with a lvl 70 troll enhancement shaman and fuck me but bloodlust from the get go buffed the whole raid, it was never limited to your group. See when you're trying to be a past time historian at least get your fucking facts straight. Enhancement shamans were also pretty huge at the beginning of tbc as there was a bugg that allowed you to endlessly procc windfury on itself without any eternal cd if you put wf rank max on your main and a lower wf rank on your off hand. That made quadruple proccs happening and enhancement shamans were actually topping dps charts, being infront of even fury warriors and such. I just generally dislike that even though there is a lot right stuff being said by hamsterwheel it still creates a wrong image. It's cool that you've played on private servers with older patches and raided there but fuck off if you haven't played these times for reals in retail. The private servers I played on where dogshit compared to the real ones. Even the best on private servers where skillless idiots in comparison to the retail servers. When the arena came out there deffo was skill to be found on the retail servers. Imo only guys who wouldn't be taken by high end pvp or pve guilds would end up playing on privates, they wanted it all, success the best gear, name it. BUT they were not willing to put the effort behind it.
@gammelhund
@gammelhund 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, those were the days. Though it was common knowledge on my server (shattered hand EU)
@hadrianmyers
@hadrianmyers 6 жыл бұрын
Enhancement is indeed an underdog spec and never had extended time in the sun like fire mages or aff locks, but I definitely remember them being extremely scary in Sunwell. I think the highest DPS I saw in TBC was an Enh Shaman pulling ~3400DPS consistently in there, which was astonishing at the time. It's always been an interesting, beautiful, sadly niche spec.
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right. I didn't quite get to fully sunwell geared but I was high 2k, low 3k by the end of TBC. Idk what he's talking about with not being on top. TBC was one of the best periods for enhance shaman
@mlaurence08
@mlaurence08 6 жыл бұрын
The death of the support class; thank you Blizzard.
@kevinbelden
@kevinbelden 5 жыл бұрын
The beginning of burning crusade was the best time for enhancement shaman, raiding, stability, and versatility considered.
@bass-dc9175
@bass-dc9175 6 жыл бұрын
One crucial thing you missed: Vanilla respecing. A small tallent in the enhancement tree was 2hand wielding. And no I do not mean being able to wield 2 weaponds. I mean: being able to equip 2 handed axed and maces. Which means: You forget the 2handed Axe and Mace skills as you respec. Meaning: as you spec to a enhancement shaman: relearn the weapon and skill it up all the way. *EACH TIME YOU RESPEC* Which put a MASSIVE cockblock on any shaman even daring to try the enhancement spec.
@MisterSaturnDX
@MisterSaturnDX 6 жыл бұрын
@@Navak_ Yes, you absolutely did have to re-level your two-handed weapon skills every single time you respec in Vanilla. I played Shaman through all of Vanilla and lost countless hours of my life to this, and I REALLY hope they don't leave this in for WoW Classic. :(
@Verrulz
@Verrulz 6 жыл бұрын
The problem with dualwielding was that winfury had an internal cooldown, so if your offhand procced your windfury, your mainhand couldnt procc it for a short amount of time. The fact that most offhand weapons were attacking faster than mainhand weapons made it even worse since you obviously want your mainhand to procc windfury. Anyway, BC was a great expansion for enhancement shamans. it was a ton of fun to play it.
@Walkeraish
@Walkeraish 6 жыл бұрын
Thats why you went with 2x slow 1handers.
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't have an internal cooldown if you downranked offhand wf
@Apemopo
@Apemopo 5 жыл бұрын
wasn't there a bug when they first implemented that change that your off hand and main hand weapons had separate cooldowns? i wonder would it have been too imba if it had been that way :3
@MrMhtmht
@MrMhtmht 6 жыл бұрын
There is simply no better feeling than windfury one-hitting mages and priests in vanilla and bc pvp
@gammelhund
@gammelhund 4 жыл бұрын
I made a draenei shaman first day tbc dropped, played it the whole expansion - it was glorious.
@jordogey5751
@jordogey5751 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do feral druid next?
@samjer
@samjer 6 жыл бұрын
ohh feral had really hard time for a very long time but it would be fun to see it =)!
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I already have another spec lined up that I'm working on but don't worry, Feral Druid is definitely on the to do list!
@emmaaadrdxd8595
@emmaaadrdxd8595 6 жыл бұрын
feral druids are not underdogs. many good guilds use ferals as 3rd/4th tank. you have to be pretty clueless to think ferals can't perform considering they outthreat warriors by a TON from aq onwards.
@zeratulrus142
@zeratulrus142 6 жыл бұрын
nigel, feral is two specs in one though, there are much less cats than there are bears
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 жыл бұрын
So feral druids are just tanks? They're not kitty dps as well?
@ExecutusGaming
@ExecutusGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with Enhancement being an underdog spec, great vid!
@peacetreaty86
@peacetreaty86 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who started playing in cata, that was the last time I truly enjoyed the spec. Started playing classic and I’m enjoying the original play style of enhance. I feel like I’m getting in touch with my roots lol
@cameronsammons8709
@cameronsammons8709 6 жыл бұрын
I love your underdogs series!
@J-Mello
@J-Mello 6 жыл бұрын
Enh shaman was my Vanilla Main. It was my favorite by far.. Challenging & fun.
@Drew57720
@Drew57720 5 жыл бұрын
When windfury procced off of itself it was an instant win save for pally bubble
@andyfranco100
@andyfranco100 6 жыл бұрын
Watching your underdogs of raiding videos, makes me feel like going back to play in private servers. I miss playing already
@smithers4420
@smithers4420 6 жыл бұрын
I think he is underestimating the dps of a properly geared enh shaman in wotlk? I remember pulling insane numbers with lots of haste and the right weapons/trinkets because of all the on hit effects and instant lightning bolts proccing all the time.
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
At the beginning yeah. Blizzard was constantly nerfing shaman because plebs kept complaining even though it was one of the least represented classes. They mistook knowledge of the class and a firm grasp on rotation and gear requirements as being op. I was constantly pissed off during wrath every time I saw a new set of patch notes.
@mariolungolov4213
@mariolungolov4213 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please revisit the enhancement shaman in wotlk, because the talents and the gear are wrong that you shown!
@Egregious_
@Egregious_ 6 жыл бұрын
I'm working on generating a calculator aimed at attributing the presumed increase in DPS from members of a Shaman's party to that Shaman in order dispel some of the pervasive "Enh Shaman are Nightfall bots" prejudice.
@NeevoA52
@NeevoA52 6 жыл бұрын
you didnt't mention totem dance at all in tbc? wow.
@MrUlf1337
@MrUlf1337 6 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention that winfury could prog of windfury, which was later changed
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I forgot to put that in, good point!
@MrUlf1337
@MrUlf1337 6 жыл бұрын
wow i am possitively surprised of your fast reply. really appreciate it :) shows your dedication to your videos and your community
@Ytinasniiable
@Ytinasniiable 5 жыл бұрын
And also in the beginning of BC both weapons could proc at the same time until they added a shared 3 second internal cooldown
@kevinbelden
@kevinbelden 5 жыл бұрын
Ytinasniiable both weapons procing at the same time was euphoria
@olov244
@olov244 6 жыл бұрын
I know in TBC enhancement was really good for short boss fights, they frontload damage really well. and their rotation is very active, in TBC and WOTLK, if you mess it up your dps drops really quickly - I hear feral druid was similar but with an even crazier rotation
@pokeyerface
@pokeyerface 6 жыл бұрын
hey Hamsterwheel , what monitor do you have? I am asking because everytime I watch your videos , your character's movements and spellcasts seem soo much more fluid then mine....
@ArchangelV11
@ArchangelV11 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention arena in wotlk beast cleave, rank 1 teams
@barneypanofsky1957
@barneypanofsky1957 6 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned the insane rotation thay had on wotlk. I mean, it was a pain in the ass just to deal a decent amount of damage.
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't at first. It's because they kept fucking with the spec. I remember being constantly pissed off every time they released new patch notes and my buddy rubbing it in my face because he was salty about me getting further raiding during TBC than him.
@someguy3508
@someguy3508 5 жыл бұрын
That insane rotations was what made enha the most fun to play spec. It needed concentration and good response time and it was fantastic. It was similar to elemental in later patches of Legion. It was magnificent
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
@@someguy3508 they kept nerfing enhance every patch during wrath cata and panda
@someguy3508
@someguy3508 5 жыл бұрын
@@hermeticascetic i only played ele after wrath. But shaman was always the most fun to play
@havarija2075
@havarija2075 5 жыл бұрын
the rotation is easy when u figure it out, pure priority spec
@nelprincipe
@nelprincipe 6 жыл бұрын
forgot to mention that small time in bc when ppl would spec enhancement for dual wield + elemental for damage only to be able to equip 2 casters main weapon and play as ele. It was overpowered and blizz was quick to nerf not the talents, but change all casters weapons from one-handed to main-handed. fun times tho
@DrPluton
@DrPluton 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about that on the forums at the time.
@eibadjamil1049
@eibadjamil1049 4 жыл бұрын
Towards the end of wotlk enh was actually a really strong dps class
@skater90255
@skater90255 5 жыл бұрын
i dont know, when i played vanilla all the way to wrath my shaman was solid DPS. In vanilla it was a struggle but BC and wrath i had not issues always was at the top. but shrug.
@jacobk4n3
@jacobk4n3 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one!
@gustav-no5ij
@gustav-no5ij 6 жыл бұрын
I want to start playing WOTLK. Should I go with Warmane or Sunwell?
@argusroth3269
@argusroth3269 5 жыл бұрын
See what I don't get is that Enhancement Shaman was extremely useful to a raid. I was the Nightfall Totem bot for my guild and we made it all the way up to the four horsemen before burning crusade came out. Sure I never came close to top DPS but that wasn't my job, my job was to make sure that Nightfall debuff was on and that I rotated my totem buffs so the actual DPS could do their job better. Not to mention all the other stuff I could do. I think when classic comes out, we will see Horde guilds taking 1-2 Enhancement Shaman depending on how many melee groups there are and at least 2 Resto Shamans in the caster groups because Mana Tide Totem and Chain Heal are fantastic.
@psychologybear6846
@psychologybear6846 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, shaman nightfall uptime is about half that of ret pallys, and even further behind warriors and melee hunters
@riklaunim
@riklaunim 6 жыл бұрын
As a shaman on pserver I was pretty much needed a lot for totems in melee group. Only once when we had 2 shamans in group for Ossi one shaman was placed in healers group for mana tide totem. Some PUGs or even more serious guild runs place like gear requirements with the exception of Shamans that only requirement is to put a totem and go AFK if they want to :) After getting some ZG and AQ20 gear I had to say bye bye to enhancement for mob farming and stuff out of group content. To avoid constant respecs I made elemental-resto hybrid without mana tide (as I was constantly in melee groups). Surprisingly elemental works quite well on those twilight cultists which most of them are casters or caster shamans and on long range their lightning shield won't trigger (or they don't cast it then?).
@novat9731
@novat9731 6 жыл бұрын
Classic wow - Why specc the nightfall shaman into enhancement talents? It's better to simply specc restoration, and heal on a swing timer. TBC - Every single hybrid class received some form of group or raid buff, inaccessible to the base class without speccing deep into the talents. Paladin got 3% crit to all DPS in the raid on their judge target and refreshed all judgements with crusader strike. Enhancement shaman increased the attack power of everyone in their group by 10%, every time they crit, while the improved wind fury totem talent returned and was made significantly more powerful. It's funny that you mention warlocks doing more damage. Going a bit more in depth on the subject of TBC warlock damage, you will find that the most optimal way of dealing damage past t4 content is simply spamming shadow bolt over and over. While Enhancement shamans would need to cast storm strike, shock spells put down 4 totems and alternate between agility totem and wind fury totem to maximize personal and group DPS. Meanwhile, Warlocks spamming 1 button over and over beat them. If you're not sure what i'm talking about with alternating totem. The wind fury totem applies a 10 second buff to the weapon of everyone in range, it's possible and optimal to drop wind fury and have it tick once so that the parties weapons are buffed for 10 seconds. Then drop the agility totem for roughly 6-10 seconds, juggling global cool downs on 2 damaging abilities and 2 totems.
@Reps1991
@Reps1991 6 жыл бұрын
I rly have to say that i miss it... when i was raiding with my combat rogue i was so happy when i could have an enhancement in my grp... just all over to keep an eye on " what is the group constelation ...for example that you would do more dmg as a melee when u got a warry tank cause of the armor shred
@broncojones3146
@broncojones3146 6 жыл бұрын
I think you should have mentioned one important factor at the beginning of TBC. Before the 3 sec internal cool down for windfury was introduced Enhancement Shamans did insane DPS. With no cool down windfury was able to proc on an exta windfury attack. Sometimes i couldn't see shit because my screen was littered with numbers. Unfortunately the dmg spikes you produced generated an incredible amount of aggro so that for the beginning of Kara it was basically impossible to raid as Enhancement Shaman, since Tanks couldn't handle the aggro. Obviously that was the reason for the 3 sec internal cool down(well they where oneshotting mages/priest in BGs left and right as well).
@mipmip8
@mipmip8 6 жыл бұрын
Enh shamans topped dps on any fights with haste buffs, e.g. Hodir, in WotLK
@mSeabass
@mSeabass 6 жыл бұрын
man looking back i must have been in shit guilds in BC and Wrath cause i was topping charts as enhancement lolol. We were good on our server though.
@Walkeraish
@Walkeraish 6 жыл бұрын
Enhance was doing way more than 800dps back in TBC.
@roguewriting
@roguewriting 5 жыл бұрын
@@Walkeraish I agree, I remember doing 1k+ before even starting raids, then once I got the World Breaker (2h) my DPS was ridiculous. I remember burst lady vashj for 12k dps for the first 10-15seconds of the fight and dying an oh so glorious death when the tanks couldn't hold threat.
@marshallbridgeman
@marshallbridgeman 6 жыл бұрын
you'd think enchancement woulda been more popular in vanilla, sense most of its damage is auto attack not spell they'd have extra mana for side healing with their buffs...
@rzk9995
@rzk9995 5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing on netherwing and we have enhance shams in our 25 man doing like 1200-1400 dps, not bad at all. Expertise is KEY. ie ( Flesh Handler's Gloves and Clefthoof Hide Leggings )
@anonimas12
@anonimas12 6 жыл бұрын
If only Enh kept the core of its mechanics for legion :/ I can no longer play my former main because of what it has become :(
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Enhance was actually pretty enjoyable in legion. And it had good damage.
@MrGoogle87
@MrGoogle87 5 жыл бұрын
Could you explain? I quit playing my shaman main after wrath of the lich king. Maybe there is a video you can reccomend?
@hvdiv17
@hvdiv17 4 жыл бұрын
enhancement shaman were so good until legion then bfa just killed them they are getting a re work finally in shadowlands but it has the same issues no defense and its middle of the pact in damage. im so excited to play enhancement shaman in classic tbc when it launches.
@ryguy108
@ryguy108 6 жыл бұрын
Enhancment shaman's in TBC are super gear reliant. They need the dragon strike maces from BS Crafting and then their dps sky rockets, they can easily be top 5 with the right gear.
@stiglets528
@stiglets528 4 жыл бұрын
Fillion .Ryan I know this is a 2 year old comment but I was wondering if you would do the maces still even if you are an orc would the axes be better or no?
@ryguy108
@ryguy108 4 жыл бұрын
@@stiglets528 I think for orc they sim the same, but the haste maces are just so sick. I was bursting 2.4k dps in t5 content
@stiglets528
@stiglets528 4 жыл бұрын
Fillion .Ryan yeah I’ve been getting conflicting info from everyone. I got my shaman to 70 at the end of tbc so I didn’t have a huge amount of exp on him then. But I know wotlk I was a master. But bc is a little bit of an question for me. I blasted heroics and ZA in tbc but that was about it.
@chicometalsic3977
@chicometalsic3977 5 жыл бұрын
Enha shaman on LK was sooo good i literally carry any raid always top dps
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 6 жыл бұрын
What is that npc at 8:23
@Todefy91
@Todefy91 6 жыл бұрын
betarage Liron from the Smolderforge server. He teleports/reset talents and cooldowns/vendors
@asambi69
@asambi69 6 жыл бұрын
I thought enhance were bought just for the WF totem?.
@deutsch31
@deutsch31 6 жыл бұрын
No experienced shaman featured for the vanilla era? ....disapointment
@waterDrinker13
@waterDrinker13 6 жыл бұрын
unbreakable was mentioned
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get one in time. Also Unbreakable has quit wow a long time ago.
@diego_chang9580
@diego_chang9580 5 жыл бұрын
tbh in retail Enh Shaman it's so rng based (Windfury AND Stormbringer procs) i wouldn't mind having those raid buffs, even if that means i don't get to be top dps or heal be a support class would be really awesome.
@SuperN0vaNexus
@SuperN0vaNexus 5 жыл бұрын
played a shamn for ages, current one feels like my hands are going to get carpeltunnel, Classic 2h is my love :D
@space5476
@space5476 6 жыл бұрын
can you do sub rogue next?
@gregormcnugget4866
@gregormcnugget4866 6 жыл бұрын
playing enchancement shaman in vanilla/tbc/wotlk/cata/panda i can tell in wotlk with good gear i was in the top four dps all the time
@EpictheEpicest
@EpictheEpicest 6 жыл бұрын
Would be fun to see enhance shamans viable with a 2hander again.
@roguewriting
@roguewriting 6 жыл бұрын
There was a point in TBC where I swapped back to 2h, after clearing SSC I picked up the World Breaker... it had a crazy Crit chance proc on it with no ICD (That I could see), and in raids the 2h out DPS'd DW by a ridiculous amount.
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
@@roguewriting because the +hit requirement was lower for 2h. It was still plenty viable in PVP. Honestly it was better in PVP than dw. Plus it freed up talents to move elsewhere.
@raven_vae
@raven_vae 6 жыл бұрын
i used to be a shaman class leader in my guild on Light's Hope. i'm the token enhancement shaman, and i still get whispers from lower level shaman often about how i raid as enhancement and why i'm even allowed to raid with nightfall lol great video, and i really need to know the name of the last song before the outro (for scientific purposes)
@mladenstankovic3148
@mladenstankovic3148 6 жыл бұрын
scrungle l70etc - power of the horde, if im not mistaken. If you havent heard of the band before you are missing out.
@nathancasey7712
@nathancasey7712 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you allowed to raid with nightfall? That's the only reason you are allowed to raid lmao. Btw get eye to drop yet?
@PaulyT999
@PaulyT999 5 жыл бұрын
I am sorry but... I was a enhancement shaman from BC to Wrath. During that time I was top of the dps meters in that timeframe
@sku440
@sku440 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I played in Vanilla a resto Shaman. But when i got Nightfall it was a ton of fun going melee :D
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
How are you going to completely pass over shaman tanking?
@MCrants0
@MCrants0 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@plussix5517
@plussix5517 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video mate but you could've not been more wrong according to the damage output in tbc / wotlk - tbc were dominated sure by warriors / mages and warlocks - but during wotlk, this is not the case - people just played the class completely wrong in all possible ways. I've played enhancement shamans since I started playing wow in vanilla. Enhancement shamans can be the top over all other classes if played correctly
@Epicdps
@Epicdps 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. HW really didn't do the research on the WOTLK parts of this series. Enhancement Shaman is one of the tier 1 dps specs in the final patch of WOTLK that if played correctly will do over 20k dps in ICC just like the ass. rogues, fire mages, fury warriors, marksman hunters and frost dks
@krowaswieta7944
@krowaswieta7944 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, TBC was dominated by Rogues, Hunters and locks. Mages and warriors were no match to them. And guess you did 20k dps as enha on some private server, huh? It just doesnt count.
@AtrumRes
@AtrumRes 5 жыл бұрын
It would be so easy to make enhance viable in vanilla and tbc. Just make windfury a higher chance 80-100% or let their windfury/flametounge totems stack with their weapon enchant.
@Immagonko
@Immagonko 5 жыл бұрын
My very first character was ench shaman, good times
@dominikzvinek2453
@dominikzvinek2453 6 жыл бұрын
I have a guildie on WOTLK private server warmane who can pull off 12k dps on halion, 15k dps on saurfang with 6.1k gs (no bis trinkets) so i dont agree with your statement that enchantmen shamans didnt do good dps in wotlk.
@Neran280
@Neran280 6 жыл бұрын
thats true. i went through my old screenshots few month ago and was surprised noticing that enhancer were not that bad at dps during icc content.
@KimmoKM
@KimmoKM 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at Worldoflogs top parses from retail averaged from relevant bosses (i35.tinypic.com/2lkqubn.png), enhancement did 75% of the #1 DPS. Given that they also perform worse than MM hunters and Frost DKs that would offer the same buffs, you definitely don't want to have enhancement in a min/max raid, and they're at threshold of being a major liability, especially considering they're also one of the least survivable specs and one of the toughest specs to play to their maximum potential (not a factor for this kind of stats but definitely a factor for most of the raiding population). Interestingly, enhancement did 75% of the personal DPS of legendary-carriers in Sunwell as well. The difference being, of course, that their corresponding raid DPS contribution was ~130% instead 75% (WotLK has no unique buffs besides a pittance of strength from Enhancing Totems so personal DPS is all you've got). Which is a pity since 3.3.5 enhancement is my favorite spec to play in WoW. It's a good mix of offering a more active playstyle while also having the sort of limitations and inconveniences you'd have to work around, characterizing pre-WotLK classes.
@moyofication
@moyofication 6 жыл бұрын
I pulled 15k at toc25 Valkyrs before even I got my TaJ, I was just nm Bis at that time, raped nearly 3 paladins lol who were doing 12-13k
@srenclement5781
@srenclement5781 6 жыл бұрын
Agree .. I had a ton of fun as enhance in WOTLK and did some decent top dps on Yoggy for instance 🙂
@smallpseudonym2844
@smallpseudonym2844 6 жыл бұрын
Hint: when trying to sound authoritative on a subject, _at least use the right word._ It's an enhancement shaman. Not a fucking "enchantment" shaman. If you have an enhancement shaman, he destroys people with his big 2h (vanilla) or flurry of 1h strikes. If you have an "enchantment" shaman, he's DEing your blues. Also known as "Rouges are overpowdered".
@Aj9Livess
@Aj9Livess 6 жыл бұрын
power of the horde, nice addition haha
@_yiggy
@_yiggy 6 жыл бұрын
Do demonology locks.
@93siguy
@93siguy 6 жыл бұрын
Back In wrath I was probably the 2/3 geared enhance shaman on my server, and was always in top 3 dps of my guild.
@thebeardedbear565
@thebeardedbear565 4 жыл бұрын
Move the 30% threat reduction from parry to a different dual wielding talent
@moonlitgaming9056
@moonlitgaming9056 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely wrong about Wotlk with Enhance Shamans being Mid tier, especially towards the end of the expansion. Once Ulduar came out, Shamans outshined most classes on the dps meters, given they were stacking enough haste to get white hits in as much as possible to get more MWx5 LBs off. Yes they still provided the best support, but they were a high tier dps later on in the expansion.
@ZakPrestor
@ZakPrestor 6 жыл бұрын
feral druids next, please?
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 6 жыл бұрын
And now in Legion, Enh Shamans are in the top 3 best dps of the game.
@Hscaper
@Hscaper 6 жыл бұрын
I don't like when people rate support classes on where they sit on the dps meters... I think it's unfair as a comparison. Utility class that can Also dps.. mandatory
@oinchadoomandwolfboy
@oinchadoomandwolfboy 5 жыл бұрын
Should’ve done an Enhance Stock spec build in classic.
@sethamtsberg2609
@sethamtsberg2609 5 жыл бұрын
That's the point of enhancement.. to enhance to party or raid overall...not to be the top dps.
@LizardoiL
@LizardoiL 5 жыл бұрын
I wish they would bring back 2h enh shamans
@thejurkshot
@thejurkshot 5 жыл бұрын
In Wrath, my Enhance Sham was always top dps in ICC heroic and I loved Enh the best.
@Dansil_12
@Dansil_12 5 жыл бұрын
So it's kind of a balance druid right?
@keigpvp7877
@keigpvp7877 6 жыл бұрын
I love my spec since tbc :PP
@larrylonghang1356
@larrylonghang1356 6 жыл бұрын
Enh was highest parsing spec in the first tier of Wrath. I agree with everything you've said, but for at least that tier you are misinformed.
@ahnoldshort5500
@ahnoldshort5500 6 жыл бұрын
Larry Longhang they fell off hard in ICC and were amongst the worst dps in the game
@dusk1999
@dusk1999 6 жыл бұрын
Arcane Mage next please!
@R3dux7933
@R3dux7933 6 жыл бұрын
Dps protection warrior!
@bacontv9423
@bacontv9423 5 жыл бұрын
Do u know a good classic private servers
@Takujaki
@Takujaki 5 жыл бұрын
Underdog indeed but in wotlk your info is incomplete, the reason why shamans dps seem to never top was the vast majority of players could'nt handle the complicated priority system as they had to press maany different buttons at gcd speed (yes like every caster, but there was no strict order as you had to react to rng in split seconds, keeping up a dot with randomly chaniging lenghts during the fights while managing the cooldowns being used properly and in advance change it up the right way in order to preserve mana) like 1 misinput could cut off an entire sequence leading to a hard punish in the dmg done department tldr: they had the tools to be top 3 in any 25man, but imo they had the most dificult dps prio
@Cromas92
@Cromas92 6 жыл бұрын
Encha shaman can do like 400dps in raids, you couldnt find experienced vanilla encha shaman ?
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Not in the limited amount of time I had
@xynaptic
@xynaptic 6 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, at what gear level?
@Klu88
@Klu88 6 жыл бұрын
Man I don't know why it bugs me but can you spell enhancement for me? And explain where Encha fits in?
@J-Mello
@J-Mello 6 жыл бұрын
Satbeer K Lol relax. Enha is heavily reliant on both elemental and profession enchanting to reach respectable dps, so ur comment is irrelevant tbh.
@MrTamaman89
@MrTamaman89 6 жыл бұрын
the encha is just a joke. It alludes to how people call enhancement "enchancement". Similar how people call moonkins boomkin/oomkin.
@drews1071
@drews1071 5 жыл бұрын
pppppppsh only 11 min. dedicated to #1 underdog class/spec??
@weeabooshunter4759
@weeabooshunter4759 6 жыл бұрын
11:06 Not the power of the horde, its the power of rng
@patagarro91
@patagarro91 6 жыл бұрын
so many memories bro :'(
@ns-tech1304
@ns-tech1304 6 жыл бұрын
Hope u doing good my friend
@rickandrygel913
@rickandrygel913 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't even talk about enh tanking...
@masumasumasu
@masumasumasu 6 жыл бұрын
Basically every hybrid class was stuck in mediocricy in terms of every aspect back then
@stevanmiric5816
@stevanmiric5816 6 жыл бұрын
Do a fury warrior next
@Corrupted
@Corrupted 5 жыл бұрын
Fury was really good lol
@ellypsis603
@ellypsis603 6 жыл бұрын
Ele in PvP was so op tho
@kaistia496
@kaistia496 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@emreoberheide1874
@emreoberheide1874 6 жыл бұрын
Woah that skill Tree in wrotlk is completely wrong and the best weapons were imho the gauntlets from molten core cause the procc of them could trigger swift cast and would boost your dps by some degree with instant chain lightning or lightning bold also in PvP in combination with blood frost dk and fury warrior in arena you had enough proccs to one hit most leather wealders and could easily spam chain healing to keep your group up.
@hartosaarinen221
@hartosaarinen221 6 жыл бұрын
1. The spec isn't completely wrong, it's mostly right 2. Gauntlets weren't the best for the whole raid, only for you 3. This video was not about pvp, it was about raiding. So you got all wrong, not him.
@AzereusMumko
@AzereusMumko 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT ;)
@Epicdps
@Epicdps 6 жыл бұрын
So yeah. Like a few people have said, you didn't do your research on WotLK Enhancement raiding. :P 1 point out of improved stormstrike and 2 points out of improved windfury totem into improved fire nova and the level 20 elemental 1 point mana reduction talent when you crit with a spell (elemental focus I believe it's called) is the best spec. Frost DKs provided the 20% (not 16% like the shitty WF totem) attack speed buff. Wasting two points on it is bad. Improved STR of Earth totem should be picked up by Elemental Shamans. Enh in Wrath required A LOT of finesse and experience to reach the tier 1 DPS potential it was capable of alongside Rogues, Mages, Feral and Balance Druids, Fury and Arms Warriors, etc. That is why Elemental which was a three button spec would more consistently do higher DPS. Because noobs on private servers who roll Enhancement don't really know what they are doing and spamming Chain Lightning, Lava Burst and Lightning Bolt is just SO much easier. There are also very few good guides on Enhancement DPS in Wrath available on the internet as well which doesn't do much to help that issue. You could also have mentioned with the addition of 10 man raids to Wrath as a baseline difficulty, Maelstrom weapon was immensely useful as an off-healing tool. =)
@hermeticascetic
@hermeticascetic 5 жыл бұрын
Enhance was only good at the beginning of wrath. It took a lot of work to be in the top end. But people mistook skill for imbalance. So basically every patch there was a shaman Nerf.
@_Leouch
@_Leouch 6 жыл бұрын
I remember 1shoting as enha in pvp in wotlk :D
@lordofnothing255
@lordofnothing255 5 жыл бұрын
A mana eater but brutal burst damage.
@DanielFernandes-nn8fn
@DanielFernandes-nn8fn 6 жыл бұрын
next do survival hunter
@marcostadeudamata453
@marcostadeudamata453 6 жыл бұрын
Compreendo pouco do que fala mas assisto todos seus vídeos ❤️
@jordogey5751
@jordogey5751 6 жыл бұрын
Marcos Tadeu da Mata uhm i dont think he can understand you he is from the netherlands
@Shooky47
@Shooky47 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordogey5751 He wrote 'I don't understand much from what you're saying but I watch all your videos'
@vonnerseite
@vonnerseite 6 жыл бұрын
1 Procc every 5 Meleeattack and People still cried abot Wf Proccs....
@SrGonzalezme-mide-100cm
@SrGonzalezme-mide-100cm 6 жыл бұрын
Prot pally!
@olle6da6low
@olle6da6low 6 жыл бұрын
Finally :P
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