Hand Panning Micro Fine Gold 2019

[@timgrant8729]

As a true greenhorn this was the most informative video I've seen! Thanks for sharing this info! It's definitely going to help my panning and gold recovery skills!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Remember, this reveal only works for micro fine gold. At the last step, any gold over about 50 mesh will slide to the near side of the pan instead of staying up top. By holding the pan pretty close to flat you can keep the coarse gold up high also.

[@rigel1176]

First of all ..... I start learn to pan in July 1980 ,- and was so fascinated ,- and start with a frying pan ( without the handle 😉 ) Few days later , one of the old gold miner went to town for supplies ... Come back and give me my first real gold pan ( he gev it to me ,- and say :" I can't see that anymore " 😂) It was a brandnew Estwing 14" without any riffles ..... Good size centerspace for work with the water in the pan ,- space on the rim to work with special panning technique ..... I learn that 14" is the right size for good panning performance ( not so heavy ....) All smaler pans are to small in the panning space ! And these "green salat bowls " with the big riffles ar useless and end in a "one arm bandit technique " 😉😂 People trust them riffles to much and don't know what happend in the pan with different material ..... And then it comes ,- I saw lot of different panning technique ,- to handle any kind of material .... classified ,- non classified ,- lot of black sand or heavy minerals ,- quick shots ,- clean wash ,- and x differend pan motion for any purpose ........ and and For a prospector it is necessary to have a wide panning repertoire ..... Even production is possible ( In B.C. Canada ,- if you claim panning work for assessment work for you anual report ,- the dep. of mining and minerals ask for one Cubic meter per 10 hour shift ......... app 220 pans ...... and the result of it ! I did it twice ....... There ar just three tutorial on youtube who show the basic in a good way .... Gary from "Two toe" mining ( panning for gold ) California USA Gerry Smith 40 + years panning " Barkerville Historic side " B.C. Canada WalnLiz Tutorial "How to pan for gold" Australia Your knowledge for hard rock mining is highly appreciated ! kzbin.infogaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f602.png

[@GrooberNedJardine]

Great example you've shown here ,iv'e seen all the fancy stuff before ,shaker tables ,gold cubes ,etc, but for those of us that don't have that sort of money to throw around , you can pan down to micron gold with the pan ,it just takes a bit of time and patience ,and of course skill , to achieve the same results ,thanks for showing this .cheers .

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're very welcome. Glad I could help.

[@magicmountainharpist]

pure genius thank you so much for passing on youre valuable knowledge from geoff winder in tasmania

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're welcome. Be aware that the gold larger than 50 mesh will probably be in the bottom of the pan with the other coarse heavies. I won't stick to the pan like the micro fine does.

[@magicmountainharpist]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 thanks have had a few goes but certainly need more practice cheers

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@magicmountainharpist Remember this only works for very fine gold. When you tip the pan and tap, gold over about 50 mesh will slide down to the low side of the pan. For that you would need to use a standard reveal. Keith

[@jamesbutcher338]

That pan is called the Black 10 inch Gold Rush Gravity Trap Gold Pan. I just bought one on Amazon. Thanks for the tip I'm looking for ways to recover the micro gold found here in Western NY. Great video. I appreciate it.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're very welcome. I'm glad I could help. If you ever need a strong helper, I know a person in NY who runs a fence business and is really enthusiastic about gold mining. Keith

[@jamesbutcher338]

Hi Keith, I commented about the Black 10in Gravity Trap gold pan. I bought one and it showed up today. When viewing on Amazon it looked identical to the pan you used and asked about. However when I opened the package it clearly has a vertical lip before the angel. I don’t know if it is an updated version or just a really bad photo by the seller on Amazon. I apologize for the wrong answer to your question. Seller will not get a good review.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@jamesbutcher338 I found some duplicates of mine at Sportsman's Warehouse. They were made by Stansport. Thank you for the effort.

[@loosefish9889]

Thanks for the video! All the gold I find here in New Mexico is super fine, I think this will help me recover more gold!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

I hope it works well for you. The 30 mesh screen really makes it easy.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Let me know how it works out for you. still learning here too.

[@levimichael9425]

Don’t forget to go gangsta style if you wear a hat!

[@binnielynn1528]

Thank you, just started few months ago to pan. Very frustrating, but You give me some hope. I was making some mistakes in technique. I will go out today and try again.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Once you intuitively understand what's going on, it will be easy. Just remember, micro fine gold behaves differently in the reveal, but not in the concentration. You can also practice on small pieces of metal to start with if you don't have gold readily available.

[@emandejnozka1369]

Keep tryin’, Bubba. Just like with welding or gettin’ to Carnegie Hall, ya gotta Practice, Practice Practice.

[@maxstephens815]

I guess an old dog CAN learn a new trick! Thanks Kieth!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Eva! Max called me old! :-)

[@morrisrustan8493]

nice technique,I'll try it,you can really see the yellow on the fine gold thank you for posting.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're welcome.

[@ctking100]

Great video! I also like Docs video from Goldhog on micro fine panning. Very similar approach. I've watched most of your videos, they have been a great resource for me. Thank you

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're welcome. He uses much higher concentrations of coarser gold. :-) Take a look at the granulation in his pan.

[@ctking100]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 I think he did that so he could get it on camera better. I've had exceptional results doing it just like he does. Just need to be very light about everything and not to aggressive at all. I like your way as well. I'll probably integrate what I learned from him and you into my own processes

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@ctking100 The basic segregation physics is the same. It is just in the reveal we do things a little different. It would be fun to go side by side sometime. :-)

[@DaBigBananaChief]

One day, maybe.... I'll have your skills. TY for the vid

[@oscarmarinmarin6170]

Excellent lesson!!! Thanks! Oscar

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@alvinuselton912]

Thank you I knew I was losing really fine gold but not anymore!!!!! 👍🤠

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Glad to help.

[@jjmbeausoleil]

All the gold in Edmonton Alberta is super fine. Thank you for the tips

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Glad I can help.

[@paulcoover9197]

This is such a good video. Thank you so much. You rock!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@alvinjastrzebski3270]

Hi. I greatly enjoy your shows. I have a trick that works well too. I have epoxied a rare earth magnet to the underside and center of my pan. By swirling and shaking left to right, the black sand collects in a ball in the center of the pan. This means I am effectively only dealing with panning light materials over the side of the pan and it's easy to see the difference between that and any gold. Another tip I have is that I paint all my tools bright red so that I can't loose any. Smaller tools also have a piece of surveyors tape that moves in a breeze to further reduce the chance of loss.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

When panning the really fine gold from hard rock, I usually wait til the last to remove the magnetics s they seem to help cover and protect the micro fine a bit. The brightly painted tools is definitely a good idea- especially as I get older. I swear there are poltergeists in my shop that hide things from my work bench and then put them back in plain sight when I turn my back. Getting old sucks!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@FullBlownSkeptic They seem to be more active the older I get. :-)

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@FullBlownSkeptic I'll take any credit I can.

[@rreedone3674]

Another great video. I am still trying to get this technique to work as well as it does for you. My son seems to have the knack but I am still fumbling.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Try screening to 30 mesh or so, keep the pan fairly flat, and tap gently. That seems to work pretty reliably. Keith

[@No.15mining]

Great video, thanks for the lesson!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're welcome. Like the state you come from. :-) Wonder why congress isn't pushing for that one?

[@No.15mining]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 I’m not sure my friend, but the State of Jefferson surely exists in our hearts.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@No.15mining Nurture that love.

[@No.15mining]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 is there any good mining groups or blog type websites? I left most social media’s but would love to find a way to connect and learn from other prospectors.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@No.15mining There should be some local prospecting clubs near you. If you drop in on tomorrow's livestream (6PM MST start) and ask the question, I will put it out there and we should get some good tips for you. Where are you located in general?

[@snailmailtrail4230]

I'm definitely buying a goldcube and blue bowl. I'm hoping those are the silver bullet for the placer gold I found. Lots of fine gold every pan, but the only way to seperate it easy for me is a dry sift. Then spread it over a clear rubbermaid bin lid and dab the pieces of with the end of a paintbrush. Ok its torturous and the only benefit is the gold is clean at that point and it adds up quickly. Thanks I will practice panning more.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

The blue bowl will need the material screened so that the particles are near the same size. I have seen good results with the gold cube. It will run material faster also.

[@snailmailtrail4230]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 Ok sounds good, I can't really afford them but I'd say its still worth it since I have no other interests and by all accounts they will work with patience and skill. Now to go get some money.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@snailmailtrail4230 Make sure to reduce the flow on the gold cube by reversing the polarity on the motor when going for the really fine gold.

[@snailmailtrail4230]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 OK definitely, I know you can get pump controller for it too and that makes it easier. If I am gonna go in I'm going all the way.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@snailmailtrail4230 Roger that

[@zheeyhanajamjilani2817]

You are a great video Mr hard rock.,

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@donnywagers8736]

thank you for sharing and I appreciate it

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You're welcome. I hope it proves useful.

[@xenaguy01]

*SKIP TO **2:30**!*

[@paulcoover9197]

That is one fine video. The most important info for me is to classify under 30 . Also that 50 minus gold will slide down in the tappping.. i'm thinking classify to 50 minus. And then plus 50 to 30 and finally plus 30. I have little fine stuff and I have had bigger pieces come flying out of my pan when tilting. It is shocking and heartbreaking. thank you very very much. Now I'll give you a little tip. Go see Roger over at Mudfossil University on You Tube. See his shows with gold in the title. Where gold really comes from. they have these gold items called a rams horn I think. You will give birth to kittens when you figure this out. Hint The blood of the Titans was reputed to be gold. you'll probably shit a gold nugget from cognative dissonance. (the mind wrestling with new differant ideas. ideas that disagree with ideas already in your head) thank you again. You Rock brother!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Glad to help

[@ProspectorTripp]

The unknown pans I believe are the same pans I buy from the Army Navy Store in Boise Idaho. They are light, inexpensive and like you said have a good surface plastic texture. I’ll ask them where they get these pans from so maybe others can find them in there area.. or maybe can order from the Army Navy store in Boise? I’ll send you a few and you can compare to see if they are the same pan. Thanks Keith for your very helpful information and educational videos! PT

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you for the help. They really seem optimal for this technique.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thanks for the call and the pans. I will have some info on Montana in the next few weeks.

[@anthonybrown618]

I am working with -100 to -500 fine beach gold in black sand. I will give your method a try thank you for sharing this video. I have my cons classified to -30 should I go smaller?

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

That should be fine enough

[@Mr_badjoke]

man I was really wondering on the soap test I've seen a bunch of them but nobody has seemed to try Castile soap. Have you done it? Castile soap is in liquid now but it's the same as the old school block its suds free.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Never heard of it. If I see some I'll try it.

[@RockingJOffroad]

Wow your channel is growing! Congratulations!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you. Just trying to do my job right. Helped a guy avoid a bad claim purchase last month and it made my day.

[@KowboyUSA]

Catching that micro-fine gold is a task.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

This works pretty good in SMALL quantities. Getting something that works at 1 TPH is a different matter! :-)

[@utahavalanch]

I have been buying those black pans like you are looking for on EBay. The one you have there is the old version and getting harder to find. The new version has the drop bottom like the green one. SE was one company that I bought mine from. Hope this helps.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you. Prospector Tripp thinks he found some also. I'll check it out.

[@cwagner122]

Dunno who makes the pan but was gifted on by a buddie that is identical so I'm stoked lol

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Turns out they are Stansport 10" pans, available at Sportsman's Warehouse.

[@MOHAMMED-OBAIDAT184]

Great 👍🏻 Is gold available in every sand??

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

No. Very little sand has gold. Only in certain places.

[@MOHAMMED-OBAIDAT184]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 thank you 🌺🌺🌺

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You are most welcome.

[@MOHAMMED-OBAIDAT184]

​@@hardrockuniversity7283 Sir .. Is gold found in any water stream...or is it in specific Streams also??

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Only in specific streams. There are many such streams but only in limited areas.

[@Cromagnon94]

Does Tiny gold dust can broke if we poke it with finger nail...

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

In general it will BEND. It is a metal and will act like one. A gold flake CAN tear, but will normally bend and stay bent.

[@Cromagnon94]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 ok thanks for the explaination Sir..i'm a newbie gold panner greeting from Malaysia...

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@Cromagnon94 Welcome. We also do monday evening live streams at 6PM local time (right now it is 9:30 AM for your reference). We always like questions during the live streams. If you have any, tune it.

[@justa.seeker4558]

Outstanding!!!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@HYEpower]

someone sold me 50 mesh magnetite 50 pounds of it. I used n52 magnet on a tiny scoop and after removing magnetite it had lots of sand! I panned it and it is filled with a ton of super micro fine gold. I was thinking about using hash bags so glad i saw this video. idk this guy sold me tons of gold dust and i cant figure out why or maybe he is looking for big honkers and needs to rid of the mine waste?

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

It is probably black sand left over after he got what gold he could out of dredge concentrates. Check out my video 147 quickly cleaning micro fine gold concentrates. Keith

[@rickdees251]

Have you any experience or opinion on a "fluid bed" separation.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

I think a jig would fit that definition. I think it might work very well, but I have no experience with it. I do have a Keene Hydramatic jig that is basically a pure fluid bed as opposed to say, a Denver Jig. I will make videos once I get to try it.

[@shaunmace9574]

How do you feel about using the gold Cube on micro-fine gold?

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

At this point I am not sure. I have seen it do very well on some difficult flakey gold from the middle fork of the Boise River. I have had less success with hard rock gold separation, but only two attempts. I would guess it would depend greatly on the actual size of the gold and what you are trying to separate it from. Be sure to classify fine, use a surfactant, and reverse the polarity on the motor to slow down the flow.

[@rickfranklin1933]

I think the pan you are looking for maybe these on amazon its a 4 pack , SE GP1001BL 10-Inch Plastic Gold Mining Pan Black (4-pack)

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Nope. Close, but no seeegar! Note the small vertical portion just above the bottom before the side? Probably does good to catch the gold, but not to reveal the gold. Some odd hydrodynamics happens compared to a simpler pan.

[@rickfranklin1933]

​@@hardrockuniversity7283 I didn't see what you were talking about in your note, It might be my glasses but look up part number B00LAEYF4C on Amazon, thats the one Im talking about.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@rickfranklin1933 I did, and thank you for the tip. However, these pans have the same style bottom to side transition as the green pan in the video. That small vertical surface does something that interferes with the last separation and reveal step of the technique. It turns out the pans I was looking for are made by Stansport. Thank you for the help. Keith

[@rickfranklin1933]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 Glad you figured it out, I will have to order me a couple, Im heading over to Cap Disappointment come month ends and will try them out on that micro gold there, I enjoy your channel.Good job.

[@arne6787]

I'm gonna check today, but I'm pretty sure I saw this pan at Big Five sporting goods. I have a pan just like yours, I think I got it at big 5.

[@HappyHermitt]

Also, I cannot seem to get the mucro gold to get to the bottom of the pan. I can shake it all day. Doesn't matter

[@greatbasingoldrush]

Good gold video

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@martinj.bauwens7420]

Using a loupe 10, how do you differentiate gold from pyrite? Thank you.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Generally by the shape. Pyrite will generally be cubic in nature while gold will generally be in flakes or small nuggets. Pyrites are brittle while gold is malleable and that results in different shapes. Pyrite also breaks down at red heat while gold does not.

[@martinj.bauwens7420]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 Thank you very much Keith.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@martinj.bauwens7420 You're welcome.

[@patrickjobling8676]

Super fantastics as usaul..😁

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you.

[@cordellhathaway3671]

If you have a Sportsmen Wearhouse they have the black pans .

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

We do here, but last time I had to order them.

[@MOHAMMED-OBAIDAT184]

Good morning Sir Health and wealth for you Can mercury hunt this fine gold

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Only some of it. The finest gold is too small to stick to the mercury. The gold that is even finer than what you see needs to be dissolved to be recovered. That is why the sluice box empties into a tank. What is not obvious is that I am not using plain water to run the sluice, but a solution.

[@MOHAMMED-OBAIDAT184]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 thank you so much

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You are most welcome.

[@powder384]

Jobe prospecting makes a pan like that. Made in USA.

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Turns out the Stansport 10 1/2" pan is what I was looking for.

[@LloydBlake89]

How to pan for gold with ocd for beginners

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

LOL. Thanks

[@BullProspecting]

That pan came from Field and Stream!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

They have a catalog?

[@helenc1054]

I bought that brand on ebay

[@markyounger1240]

I didn't realize so much tedious work was involved for so little gold

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Testing is not production. The equation involves costs, throughput, and recoveries. At one mine I worked at we only averaged 3/100ths of an ounce of gold per ton of rock. But we ran 14,000 tons per day, made 3000 ounces per month, and eventually got listed on the New York Stock Exchange. We would have been very happy with the grades I am working in this video. A bit light for a micro scale operation though.

[@mychannelrace]

Great

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Thank you

[@CountryClarissa]

Gangster style lol please be my mentor

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

That's what the channel is all about. why not drop in tonight at 6PM Mountain time for the weekly live stream. We encourage questions.

[@TheDeepDiveLLC]

Gangster style hat position

[@seriseriom8445]

Huhm. Seems like i need to invest into a new pan ... i only own the not-so-good-for-this-tech kind :o(

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

I'm glad I just happened to be using the right kind when I started playing around with this idea. I think the vertical wall would work great capturing gold, just not for this reveal.

[@seriseriom8445]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 Yes, the vertical "normal" (?) ones work for capturing even the super fine stuff. But the way you showed us with the pan you used in the video is so much more nice for this. Thank you again for teaching us ... and as always condensed and with no endless repeats of what allready has been said. Ps. i think my last mail landed in your spam folder again ;oP

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@seriseriom8445 Sure did. I usually answer in a day or two. If it takes longer, don't hesitate to comment.

[@seriseriom8445]

@@hardrockuniversity7283 I know you are not lazy with replying ;o) Must cost you hours every day!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@seriseriom8445 You tube comments usually less than 1/2 hr. Emails can get longer- I don't type nearly as fast as my wife. Saved a guy from getting possibly scammed last week. It's worth it to me.

[@HappyHermitt]

I bought a bag of paydirt and its full.of this super fine gold. I can't even get the gravel out without losing gold. Pissin me off

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

Did this help?

[@lynndeecoomer7519]

I have 150 of those pans

[@lynndeecoomer7519]

I'll send u a stack of u send me some paydirt

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

@@lynndeecoomer7519 I have some crushed hard rock ore running about 1/3 Oz/T. There is not much gold value in it, but it is good for practicing panning micro fine gold.

[@nathanmidgett3492]

Please reach out to me! I think I have a lot of gold in my yard!!