New Ruger made Marlin 1895 SBL load development and Review

In this episode of Handloader TV we put the new Ruger made Marlin 1895 SBL through a full load development and review it along the way. If you would like more information on the rifle be sure to check out Rifle magazine issue No. 322 and read Brian Pearce's article as well.

[@shaunspies1108]

Hello there from a Boer in South Africa. Just baught mine, now to get it licenced, and that will be a couple of weeks. But, having said that, ever since I saw this model, I wanted it. Thank you for your informative program, I am sharing it on my lever action group. Needless to say, I liked and signed up as well. May God continue to bless your wonderful country.

[@HandloaderTV]

Best of luck to you in your adventures with your new Marlin I am sure that you will love it! Thank you very much for sharing the videos that greatly helps us out and helps spread good information to those who are interested in learning. Thank you for all the kind words and God bless you and your country as well! --Jeremiah

[@Lawraven]

As usual a wonderfully thorough video! I also load a great deal for my Henry all weather 45-70. However, because I like my shoulder, I’ve developed a light and inexpensive load that I would like to share. It uses the Berry’s plated round shoulder 350 grain bullet over a 16.5 gr charge of Trail Boss and Starline brass. Cartridge overall length 2.525”. 1200 ft./s on average. Excellent 1” inch groups at approximately 35 yards (the limit of my indoor range). The Berry’s bullets are inexpensive and the load allows me to spend an afternoon shooting one of my favorite rifles without worrying so much about cost or an appointment with my orthopedic doctor. As always, use at your own risk but it’s such a light load practically any 45-70 rifle could handle it. Happy shooting!

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words and the feedback, it is greatly appreciated! That sounds like a great load, I am a big fan of trail boss as well and use it quite a bit. I only wish I could find some more! Thank you for taking the time to share your load and experience with everyone I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section and is a place where folks can come and read and learn more from others! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! Happy shooting to you as well!! --Jeremiah

[@andrewpearce3608]

13gr Unique and any cast lead bullet you want. Pretty much the same velocity. Some of us put a little shred of 1 ply TP down the case to hold the powder down, but it isn't totally necessary.

[@Lawraven]

@@andrewpearce3608 Thanks for that info! One reason I like the Trail Boss is that it’s such a “fluffy” powder that a 16.5 gr load pretty much fills the space below the fully seated bullet.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@andrewpearce3608 I have used unique in the 45-70 in the past with good results as well, I have not tried the TP filler but I have heard of folks doing it. Perhaps something I could do more research on and experiment with. I do love the 45-70! Thanks for sharing your experience with everyone in the comments! --Jeremiah

[@TheCowboyfromhell87]

That was a great and informative video. I've handloaded for my 45-70's for a few years now, but never get tired of watching others do the process. Also your horse is one handsome and very well trained guy. I can see that he trusts you very well. Thanks for the video.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much for the kind words, to be honest I felt like I struggled and stumbled a lot with this video but I am glad that you still found it informative and enjoyable to watch! Thank you, that horse is the best I have ever owned, he's my partner lot's of miles and lot's of lead downrange. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! It is greatly appreciated! --Jeremiah

[@MoN-fs8om]

The Civil War ended in 1865 and the 45-70 was not introduced until 1873. So it was not “at the peak of the Civil War,” but in time for the western expansion of the United States frontier and the Indian Wars. Not meant as criticism, but for historical accuracy. By the way, this was the same year the Colt Peacemaker and the 45 Colt cartridge were introduced.

[@HandloaderTV]

I appreciate that correction and I am ashamed I did not catch that while reviewing the footage!! I got the introduction date correct of 1873 and I knew the civil war ended in 1865! I was supposed to be talking about the other metallic cartridges that were being used at that time and not the 45-70 specifically! I appreciate the correction I wish there was a way I could correct that in a video that is already posted! Thank you for pointing that out! I should have caught that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on that correction it is greatly appreciated!

[@darylnd]

The .44-40 and Winchester 1873 also came out that year. It was a good year!

[@Larryw-o2k]

Your off by a few years

[@Larryw-o2k]

Sharps 4579 wiped out a bunch of Buffalo wanna explain that

[@daveknowles3055]

I just finished re-watching this video. I am now the proud owner of the Ruger/Marlin 45-70 Trapper, and for Christmas received a set of reloading dies for this cartridge. I really like the Hornady 250 grain bullets and as soon as I can find some up here in Canada that's what I'll be developing my first load for. I definitely need the ballistic advantage of the LeverRevolution bullets. Thanks again for a great video.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words and congratulations on your new rifle! I have been very pleased with mine, when not in the saddle it resides in a rack in my bedroom. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@roustabout4458]

Excellent presentation, as usual Ruger seems like a perfect fit to carry on the Marlin name. The price is a bit shocking but, quality isn't cheap. The trigger, alas, also isn't much of a surprise. Ruger has always had rather stiff triggers in my experience. I appreciate that you didn't try to hot-rod the cartridge. For that sort of thing, the very comparable 450 Marlin is a better candidate. Additionally, I think two inch groups are plenty fine with a rifle like this. Remember, with a two inch group you have just removed an inch of paper. That's a lot of daylight. Finally, these big busters really make a guy question the fascination with velocity.. Anyone who has shot a deer with a 223 caliber and also shot one with a 45-70 quickly realizes that old, fat, and slow can still get the job done ps ... Your horse flinches less than I do! Very impressive

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much for the kind words and feedback it is always appreciated! To be honest I was really struggling with this one to get it finished on time and to try and cover everything I wanted to without getting mixed up there are a few minor mistakes on my part if you watch closely enough but nothing that would effect the results! Just myself tripping over my words! I agree I am very pleased with Ruger and what they have done with the Marlin name and products! The price is a bit high MSRP is $1,400 at the time of this filming however I do think that is fair given the quality put into the gun. However the dealers and online sales of the rifle are extremely inflated I have seen them on websites for over $2,000!! That is outrageous in my opinion. Hopefully as these rifles trickle out those prices come down below MSRP in time. Honestly I am not a huge fan of hyping up velocities in this cartridge while I think the rifle is capable of handling it why would I want to? I also find that accuracy can fall of when you hype it up near max pressure. Indeed, I have a simple answer to that, never discount the size of the hole you are putting through your target a .50 caliber or even .45 caliber hole makes up for a lot in terms of energy. There are a lot of factors that go into a kill other than velocity and energy. expansion, hydro static shock, even twist rate can play a small factor. It is certainly food for thought! Thank you the ear plugs he wears certainly helps with that, he is my pride and joy we have put on many miles together and we have certainly done a lot of shooting together. Some days I think he flinches less than I do as well! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@artr8285]

Wow - Those lightweight 45-70 Marlins can really spank your shoulder from a bench. Thanks for the all that testing! Now at 70, I can only shoot mine from a lead sled if I want to get any sleep at night. It's a little sad to see the prices of these once very affordable All American guns so high. I have several original Marlins purchased from Big5 back in the day for $299, $275 on sale! Two 1894s (.38 and .44), an 1895 45-70 and a 336 30-30. I used the 1894s for SASS competition, at least 1000 rounds each, no problems. A fellow SASS member Marauder had an excellent website on slicking up the actions and triggers of the originals, don't know if the new ones would respond the same. I love my Marlins and I'm glad they ended up at Ruger, but damn! those prices have moved them into the premium catagory. Maybe there will be a Ruger All American version some day.

[@HandloaderTV]

Indeed and these were not even maximum pressure loads! The recoil of the 45-70 can be stout that is for sure! You are very welcome, we are just glad to hear that you enjoy the videos! I don't blame you by the end of filming my shoulder was pretty sore! It is a little sad but, I am thankful the quality was maintained though. Sadly I don't think we'll ever see prices like that again. Cherish those days and those guns! Hmmm might be something to look into in the future. I am a sucker for a slicked up action and trigger. I love them as well and am grateful Ruger is continuing the legacy. I hear you on the prices though MSRP is not terrible comparing it to what other guns are going for these days. However I am hoping that as demand slows and these guns trickle out prices will fall below MSRP. At any rate thank you for taking the time to watch and for sharing your experience, I feel it adds a lot of value to these videos. Folks can read what others have done and how their reloading adventures have gone. --Jeremiah

[@colins5142]

I don’t understand why nobody ever factors in inflation whenever they talk about how they bought something “back in the day” for cheaper. Now, I don’t know what year you purchased your $299 rifle was, but for the hell of it I just did an inflation converter for 1975:2023. $299 = $1,698.91 in 2023. This is a huge reason why boomers/older people do not understand why people disregard everything they say about financial-related stuff when they pull the “back in my day I paid 78cents per gallon of gas”. It’s almost like they don’t know inflation exists or what it even means. Anyways, I think the MSRP on the 1895 SBL is fair. I found mine new for $1219 last week. Most of the ones I can find are $1600+.

[@artr8285]

@@colins5142 Since you felt compelled to be critical of my comment for no reason: Sorry to burst your bubble, but I bought my Marlins about 2001 to compete in SASS. They were much more affordable than the Winchesters of the day (over $1000) The 1895 and a .357 1894 were $299, a year earlier I got a .44 1894 for $275 and grabbed an in the box SKS for $125. All from Big 5 sporting goods. Put that in your inflation calculator and whine some more. He he he.

[@colins5142]

@@artr8285 okay well that’s still over $500 in 2023, so that seems linear to me. Plenty of lever actions in the $500-600 range. Just not going to be as particularly nice as the 1895 SBL.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

​@colins5142 can't find anything even muzzle loaders for $500. Everything is highly inflated today.

[@slimfire5475]

Awesome video on the Marlin SBL and some great shooting also .I'm glad that Ruger has marlin in its line up of great firearms. Its a beautiful rifle to and thanks for the video ,Slim.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words and the feedback it is greatly appreciated! I felt like I was stumbling a bit over my words trying to get this thing done so it is always nice to hear that others enjoyed this video! I agree I am very glad Ruger picked them up and have done a great job of bringing them back into the market as well! Thanks for watching and for your continued support! --Jeremiah

[@876mpr]

Great rifle and horse too! I’m jealous. I’ve settled on 37 grains of RX-7 with bullets from RCBS mould 45-405. Velocity is 1510 and pressure is well below 20,000 psi/CUP. It shoots really well with a Skinner aperture sight and doesn’t beat me up too badly from the bench. Took it hog hunting last fall, but decided to leave it behind and go with my old Ruger SBH instead.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much, that horse has been my buddy for a very long time. He is a good one, I would love to have him guest star again! That sounds like a great load! I do like Reloder 7 it is a great powder for the 45-70. I also love those Skinner sights and may be something I'll have to get for this rifle at some point. Thanks for the kind words and continued support!

[@MoN-fs8om]

Just noticed the confusion between psi (pounds per square inch) and cup (copper units of pressure). It would be helpful to note that the methods of measurement are different and not interchangeable. By the way, the safe pressure limits in the Ruger #1 and #3 rifles in 45-70 are much higher than in the modern 45-70 levers. Beyond the greater strength of the solid falling breech block design of the Ruger single shots, there are problems with extraction in the levers once you exceed the 40K PSI level in the levers.

[@HandloaderTV]

I probably should have explained a little bit better, I struggled to put this video together a little bit much more than usual. There is just a lot to talk about and not a lot of time to do it in! I should have stated this in the video that Most cartridges do not have a straight line conversion from CUP’s to PSI, but conveniently, the 45-70 is a cartridge that basically does. So, regardless, 28,000 CUP’s will be roughly the same pressure as 28,000 PSI, in 45-70 cartridges. This can be verified through SAAMI and Buffalo Bore ammunition as well. Which I will leave a link to at the end of this comment. There is just a lot of confusion over this point and that is why at times I will say CUP or PSI when referring to the 45-70 it really depends on what tests I am data source I am referencing. Indeed I think the Ruger #1 and #3 rifles can handle a great deal of pressure probably more so than the Marlin 1895. While I don't advocate loading 45-70 much past 40K PSI as stated in the video I do know the Marlin rifles can handle it. They are extremely strong actions for what they are and I have seen loads exceeding that figure fired safely in these guns. Extraction can certainly become an issue as you approach and exceed that pressure level. Very few powders are suitable and cases must be of good quality as well. This will certainly help with extraction in the lever actions. I appreciate you taking the time to comment all of these things I will certainly be more mindful of these things in the future and hopefully improve my presentations for future videos. I should have paid more attention reviewing the footage and made a couple of corrections especially knowing how much I was struggling to put this all together. Thanks again! --Jeremiah www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=382

[@chipsterb4946]

Mo - don’t remember which reloading manual it is, but I remember 3 different sets of load data for 45-70: 1873 Trapdoor, Marlin lever action rifles, and Marlin single shot/TC Contender data.

[@semtech30]

Nice work out. You remind me of me ! I sold my JB Marlin and bought a new R-Marlin 45/70. Rem. did a good job on mine. It's slimmer, 5lb trigger and I don't use a scope. Good action. H4198 works for me. Thanks for your detailed review.

[@HandloaderTV]

H 4198 is a great powder in teh 45-70 no doubt I use it quite a bit as well. Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences and provide us with good feedback! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@bengoniea8920]

I have a Marlin 1895SS made in the 1990's. Marlin started making micro groove barrels in the 1970's. I don't know if Remington continued that process, but they didn't start it.

[@HandloaderTV]

That is very true and I did skip around a lot in the history part of this video, and there were a couple of slip ups there and I greatly apologize for that I did not intend to make it sound like Remington started that process but rather just help folks be aware of the micro groove rifling. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment that bit of information. --Jeremiah

[@deej9367]

Thank you. Anyone that doesn't know Marlin made the micro Groove barrel is someone not worth listening to about marlin firearms

[@davidgood1699]

For reduced loads you can use Unique those guys at Sagebrush longshots shoot that light load at long ranges unbelievable until you watch and see for yourself.Ihave 3 45-70 the powder I use is 5744,4198,RL-7 I noticed the other powders on the table never thought to use them nice to see young guys doing the load data so us older guy's don't have to get beat up with all that shooting great videos and don't worry about messing up we all make mistakes and don't worry about the guys that point it out remember when you point a finger at someone 3 are pointing back you are doing a find job youngman keep up the good work and God Bless you and your family, I also had a horse you could shoot around didn't bother him at all.GREAT JOB!!

[@HandloaderTV]

I have heard both good things and bad things about using unique and it is certainly something that I want to try in the future alogn with RL-7 as well. I have watched their stuff and have enjoyed their channel. He even commented on my video with the Pedersoli sharps rifle. I love the 45-70 it is one of my favorite cartridges and is something I routinely carry in the field. I greatly appreciate the kind words and the encouragement it means a lot to me. That horse has been my best friend we have put a lot of miles on and sent a lot of rounds downrange together. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! God Bless you and yours as well! --Jeremiah

[@aarons307]

Well done video. Lots of information to packed into it. Good job!!

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much for the kind words and the feedback! To be honest I really felt like I was struggling with this one a little bit trying not to trip over my words! So it is very nice to hear that you still enjoyed the video!! Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah

[@8626John]

Nice job on the video, Jeremiah! I call that pretty good shooting. And a nice job of covering the history of the cartridge and of Marlin.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much I appreciate the kind words and the feedback, especially on the shooting. I was a little worried that folks would want to see sub MOA groups at 100 yards and while I think it's possible it isn't what you can expect right out the gate with one of these rifles I feel this was a much more realistic representation of what you can expect! To be honest I was really struggling with this video to get it done in time and I did trip over my words a few times but thankfully nothing too major! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment and for all of the continued support it means a lot to us! --Jeremiah

[@8626John]

@@HandloaderTV I have found lever guns to be challenging to shoot from a bench rest and get tight groups. I don't think they are designed for that type of shooting. That being said, your groups were excellent, particularly with the wind. Where I shoot, wind is almost always a big factor.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@8626John Indeed they certainly can be and I am still not entirely satisfied with my bench setup. They really are not designed for that type of shooting, they are brush guns and at that job they excel at. Partly why I put so much time carrying, riding and using this gun in the field. I appreciate that I think I get hung up on group size a little too much at times but I agree given the winds we were dealing with it was quite challenging to produce good groups at 100 yards. We do our best to show the results exactly as we get them so folks can know what to actually expect with the firearms we test. The wind is certainly challenging but the only way to get good at shooting in the wind is to do it. It is interesting to see the drift differences between different cartridges. The 45-70 is certainly more susceptible to wind than many other cartridges. --Jeremiah

[@keithalbrecht4785]

Very timely video, in the last two weeks I started messing with some plinking loads. My Glenfield 30A in 30/30, I got Berry's 150gr. bullets & A2015 26.5grs. @ 2,000fps. Fun plinking load, 1.25-1.50" groups. I'm playing around with setting depths, see if I can tighten them up! The trigger is very heavy too, Midway has a trigger kit I'm looking at! Good video!!!

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words it is always nice to hear what others are working on I am glad that the video came out at a good time for you! That sounds like a lot of fun best of luck in your shooting and loading! That may be something I should look into in the future! I would like to see a little lighter trigger in this gun at some point! Thanks for watching and taking the time to share what you are working on! --Jeremiah

[@maxshooter8530]

Great job and amazing video! Beautiful Rifle! Bye bye from Italy

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@rre9121]

Your horse didn't even seem to notice when you shot. That is impressive

[@HandloaderTV]

He does have earplugs in but he's a pretty amazing horse, I have had him a long time and we have hunted and shot a lot together over the years. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

[@DanielFrankHoffman]

Pretty cool shooting from the horse!

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much!! He is a fantastic horse we have put a lot of miles together and thrown a lot of lead downrange as well! --Jeremiah

[@scottzipperer6146]

I t00k mine and slicked up the action myself and it cycles like a dream I put a vortex crossfire 2. 3 x9x40ilumateded red dot I put this scope on all my lever guns33

[@HandloaderTV]

That sounds like a great idea, I'd love to slick mine up a little bit as well, the action isn't bad but I am a sucker for buttery smooth lever actions, as nontraditional as it is I also like optics on my lever guns. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@mxbishop]

Excellent, informative video. This is the rifle I want to buy. However, your concerns about the trigger give me pause. I hope Ruger takes some corrective action here. A loose, floppy trigger, and then, on top of that, a heavy trigger pull - are enough to make me wait. Also, hoping the inflated MSRP+ prices come back down to Earth. Watching and waiting for now.

[@HandloaderTV]

I completely understand that the prices are indeed high way above MSRP and I too hope that they come down. I do think the MSRP is reasonable for what you are getting. The heavy trigger was a little concerning and the floppy trigger for lack of better wording was a little annoying but it is certainly not a deal breaker for me personally. The price currently is the biggest thing. I wish you best of luck in your search and hope that you can find one for a reasonable price. Perhaps you could even get your hands on one and feel the trigger for yourself. I know the one that our writer, Brian Pearce got had a better trigger than this rifle. At any rate thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@redteam9881]

IMR 4198 and Reloader 7 340/350 Gr Hardcast FNGC My favorite in Alaska at 1900 to 2000 FPS in Marlin

[@TheRotorhound]

Super professional video. Thank you.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much the feedback is greatly appreciated to be honest I felt like I was struggling a little with this video to get it done in time and I found myself tripping over my words a bit. I am glad that you still enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching!! --Jeremiah

[@alexo1226]

Great video !! Thank you

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much it was a lot of fun putting this together!! We appreciate the feedback and you taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@articjackal]

I finally seen one in a local shop. $1250 Now I need to try and find some sub sonic load data for jacketed projectiles . Great video, thanks wor the work.

[@HandloaderTV]

Oh that is really good news! I am glad to hear that the prices may be starting to come down to reasonable levels once again. I used Trail boss for my plinking loads and it was subsonic and it works really well. Perhaps that should be the subject of a future video! Glad you enjoyed the video, to be honest this one was a little rough around the edges. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@articjackal]

@@HandloaderTV No problem, don't worry about the roughness. I would rather see great content like this rather then no one making it. I was able to get one container of trail boss from a friend, but I heard that it's currently not being produced. So getting any more would be difficult in the current times. What I would ideally like to find for Subsonic loads, is powder compatibility with 300 blackout. And weather or not magnum primers would be needed for reduced powder loads. I haven't tried Subsonic reloading besides in 300 blackout. Thanks again for the time and effort that is put into these videos.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@articjackal Well I appreciate that, thank you. We do our best, and try to make these videos as factual and informative as possible but every now and then we make a few mistakes. Glad to hear you don't hold it against us! That is sadly true, I have not seen trail boss come through the doors here in over 2 years! I have a feeling it will be awhile before it is being imported again. So treasure that Trail Boss that you do have, I myself am currently looking for some for light loads and specialty loads. As far as subsonic 45-70 goes that is a little bit of a different animal and you do have to be very careful with reduced loads. There are some powders, in particular slower burning powders that are unsafe to use for reduced loads or subsonic loads. As always stick to published data. I can tell you off the top of my head the only powder I can think of that would have crossover between 45-70 Govt. and .300 BLK would be Accurate 5744 (A-5744) It is a fantastic powder in the 45-70 for duplicating black powder velocities and with heavier bullets you can safely get it down to subsonic velocities. The same is true in the .300 Blackout and heavy bullets for subsonic loads however I have not had a chance to experiment with it very much in that cartridge due to the shortages. I have also found that powder to work quite well with cast bullets in the 45-70 I would suggest checking out our video on the Pedersoli rifle chambered in 45-70 to get an idea on how well that powder works and just how versatile it is. I will link to it at the end of this comment. Hopefully that helps you out and at least gives you a starting point. I know we have lot's of data on our loaddata website. You can see the velocities for free and search through the loads we have. It might help give you an idea of what you can and can't use. Thanks again for the kind words we are always happy to help out Handloaders any way we can! Thank you for your support of the channel and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2HEd6KqpttoeZo Pedersoli 45-70 video.

[@jeffreylocke8808]

I prefer the Henry Steel receiver. And transfer bar safety and side load and tube load/unload feature is the best design in my opinion. In traditional 45/70 but Garret Cartridges of Texas and Buffalo Bore approved.

[@HandloaderTV]

You are not the first person to tell me that, perhaps one of these days I can get my hands on a Henery and run a similar test and be able to share my own results with the Henry. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@stevefisher2121]

Excellent video!!!! Looks like you could have used a caldwell lead sled with this one!!!! LOL - probably the best "bush round" I've ever shot - A lot of power behind that bullet.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words. I probably could have used the Lead Sled with this one, it is a thumper!! I agree it is an excellent brush round, it packs a punch! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@claiborneeastjr4129]

I have Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70 which I like very much. It wears a Skinner aperture sight. Great gun, great cartridge! I like your video - very informative.

[@HandloaderTV]

I do love those rifles, and I especially love the Skinner aperture sights, some of the best made in the business! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah

[@JamesWilliams-cc1ow]

Among several Marlins of various vintage that I own, I have both a Ruger Marlin and a Remington Marlin SBL. The Remington in some ways is better and a closer interpretation of a JM. The Ruger does make some improvements (over both JM and Remington) and the finish work inside and out is exemplary. And neither of them have Microgroove rifling.

[@HandloaderTV]

That is very interesting thank you for taking the time to comment your experiences with each of those rifles here, I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section and we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah

[@trumpie5399]

Easy load for Marlin 48gr IMR 4198 with 350gr Speer FN WW Cases and Fed 210M primer Great hunting load

[@HandloaderTV]

I do like that powder and it's a go to powder of mine in the 45-70 as well. Thank you for taking the time to share that bit of information with everyone we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah

[@jamesbutton233]

You have a really good horse👍

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much, he is my partner! We have put a lot of miles and rounds downrange together. --Jeremiah

[@northcountryoutlaw9704]

I love how ruger owns Marlin now hopefully the quality control goes up, my Remington made Marlin was a POS

[@nick4872]

Incredibly useful video. Just about to start loading for that exact rifle. Can I use Lee factory crimp for all projectiles? What scope/rings do you have? Thanks from British Columbia

[@dt9094]

Please bring them to Canada🇨🇦👍

[@HandloaderTV]

I imagine they would do well up there, hard to go wrong with the 45-70. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

[@MrTacklebury]

I have a pre-Ruger 1895 Guide Gun in .45-70. I personally love Alliant Reloader #7 and find it to be the perfect poweder for .45-70. I load from 31gr. for plinkers (350 gr. Cast without gas check), 34 gr. (Gould 330gr HP lead) and 47 gr. for my favorite 350 gr. Hornady RNFP bullet. Love the fit/finish of the new Rugers, but the pricing is a bit ridiculous. I would love to have that barrel with the threads.

[@HandloaderTV]

I do love the Guide Guns in 45-70 they have a special place in my heart. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and your load data with everyone here I feel it adds a lot of value to the comments section here. I agree the pricing has been high I actually think the MSRP is reasonable but good luck finding one for that price these days. It is amazing how popular these rifles have become. --Jeremiah

[@curtislong1987]

What an awesome video brother.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much I appreciate the kind words! --Jeremiah

[@rogermorrill4700]

Hornady’s load with the FTX 325 gr bullet should be called 45-70 Hornady. Instead of Gov as the case IS NOT STANDARD LENGTH. It’s inconvenient to have to change the settings of seating die every time change bullets for crimping

[@HandloaderTV]

That is true, it is a very large modification to the cartridge and it also changes the pressure levels for the 45-70 as well. It is inconvenient but if you are looking for a high BC 45-70 bullet and are shooting at long range it does work well. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

[@kevinrollman3101]

The 2017 Remington made Marlin 1895 CB 45-70 had a trigger pull of 4 lbs. 10 ounces!! What is wrong with Ruger? That is 2 lbs. 10 ounces heavier!! Whoa!!

[@HandloaderTV]

Indeed it surprised me as well, I have heard from others that their trigger pull weights were lighter, so I am not sure if it is just the one we got for testing or what but I thought that was worth making a point of. I know I would want to know before I committed. It might be worth it to inspect it at the gun shop prior to purchasing just to be sure. At any rate thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@kevinrollman3101]

@@HandloaderTV the information I gave you on the 1895 was in the 2017 issue of Rifle magazine. I have a digital subscription. Really interesting rifle magazine. It has a lot of technical info about various firearms. I have gone to the range with that year 1895 CB 45-70 and I wondered why the trigger pull seemed lighter than what I had heard it was. This model in 2017 had the 18.5” barrel, octagonal. Really nice. Later on Remington called the 26” barrel model the CB and the 18.5” model the CBA.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@kevinrollman3101 Thank you for sending that over to me I greatly appreciate it and thank you for your longstanding support it is because of good folks like you that we can produce videos like this. That is very interesting thanks for sharing that little bit of information on the subject! --Jeremiah

[@nmelkhunter1]

Neat rifle and your cohost was certainly dog gentle. 🤠

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much, I was impressed with the rifle, very nice overall. The cohost never ceases to impress me, I am convinced he'll do just about anything! We certainly have had a lot of fun together over the years. Thank you for the kind words and the continued support! --Jeremiah

[@lawrencehudson9939]

Another thing Ruger did that you did not mention was the addition of the rail. It would have been nice to mention the sights that come with the rifle instead of just slapping a scope on the rifle. Now for plinking I recommend two cast bullets, Lyman's 454190 and 457130. Great fun just keep the bullets soft and add Trail Boss powder.

[@HandloaderTV]

Actually I did mention the rail and sights at 13:02 and I comment on how nice it was that the front sight was tritium lit and easy to pick up at night. I did also put 200 rounds through the rifle prior to mounting the scope and there was some plinking at steel done with the ghost ring sights as well. I do like both of those bullets for plinking I was using Lyman mould 457193 but I have had success as well with both of those moulds as well in particular the 457130, trail boss is a go to powder of mine for plinking. I really need to get some more sadly it is extremely hard to find these days! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment and share your experience with everyone it is greatly appreciated! --Jeremiah

[@jims9249]

Nice job and review.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you very much I really appreciate the feedback and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@WoodrowWoods2007]

whats that whirling noise after each shot at the range? LOL

[@HandloaderTV]

Ha Ha great question! That is our chronograph printing out each velocity and calculating standard deviation and extreme spread. Thank you for watching! --Jeremiah

[@SpudOutdoors]

Group size can improve with just a better target. A crosssection would help. No super fine points to aim at

[@HandloaderTV]

We actually have a library of Custom Targets we use here on the channel and depending on sights, optics or apertures we select different targets. It certainly can make a difference in accuracy and help with shooting small groups. I actually don't like the cross sections on targets, I find them distracting. I prefer a single dot that my crosshair covers completely at the distance I am shooting at. However that does make these targets less than ideal with this particular rifle sadly. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@IWatchedWhat]

Um, microgroove was before Remington, I have one made in the mid 80's that is microgroove. You can get a microgroove barrel to shoot cast bullets just fine, mine only shoots cast. The ballard rifling came in the 90's to some models due to cowboy action shooting wanting it for cast bullets and the incorrect rumor that you couldn't get a microgroove to shoot cast. You should try the Lyman 457122, it is what I hunt with all the time in mine, nothing I have shot with it has ever ran off.

[@HandloaderTV]

I must apologize for that I did stumble over my words a bit there and you are correct that the microgroove was started prior to Remington and in the 90s was slowly replaced by cut rifling or ballard style rifling. I was supposed to add the microgroove barrel comment while I was talking about Marlin in 1972. I wish I would have caught that, I apologize for the error!! That is true you can get cast bullets to shoot in the microgroove rifling you just need to use a slightly oversized cast bullet and some experimentation that to figure out what your rifle likes. I do believe that I have that very mould. I will certainly check and give it a try in this Marlin! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. And for the correction! --Jeremiah

[@IWatchedWhat]

@@HandloaderTV With that bullet I am shooting them unsized, I use the White Label Carnauba Blue lube and it works very well in the microgroove barrel. I use IMR-3031 powder with the 457122 HP bullet and get good accuracy and no leading.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@IWatchedWhat That is very good to know, leaving the bullets unsized makes a lot of sense to me in the Microgroove barrel it seems like they do like larger than than what would be considered standard. Thank you for taking the time to share your load with everyone!! --Jeremiah

[@mattlord2906]

It took 2 years almost to the day, but it came yesterday. My 45/70 just like yours. Except Ruger made mine.

[@HandloaderTV]

Congratulations on your new rifle! I am sure you'll enjoy it as much as I have been enjoying mine, which is also made by Ruger as well. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@mattlord2906]

I have it in my hands. I just lubed it. Finally, I picked it up this morning

[@danieltustison822]

Ruger should chamber one in .480 ruger be great rifle/ rev combo

[@HandloaderTV]

Now that is a great idea!! I would love to see that and I would be happy to have that combination myself! That is a great suggestion, perhaps one day we will get that. --Jeremiah

[@stevecochran9078]

I hope they are going to offer it with a 22" barrel.

[@HandloaderTV]

I hope so too the more options the better I say! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@mdrichardson4]

Where was your shooting bench purchased or made that is a damn good looking bench

[@HandloaderTV]

Great question, It is a Konig Jager Super Bench, Sadly they are no longer making shooting benches like this and they seem to be very rare these days but you may be able to find a used one online but they are quite rare. These days I recommend Stukey's Sturdy Shooting benches as an alternative and they are also more portable. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@CS-xo4kh]

The threaded muzzle makes it illegal to buy in Washington state due to our gov/king .

[@chevy4240]

Great video , I was looking at your test load number 2 with the hornady FTX 325grain bullets how did you get your COAL to 2.560 ? did you trim the case to 2.010 ? With the case trimmed to 2.040 and seating the bullet to crimp line mine comes in at 2.590 ..

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the kind words, I did trim the cases to 2.100 inches and then seated the bullet to 2.560" if I am remembering correctly that is. I believe I was at the top of the cannelure but it still was crimping within the cannelure. I do remember that being a little tricky though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. If you have further questions I can look at my notes and see if I can't narrow that down more for you. --Jeremiah

[@glenncabot7994]

48.5 gr of imr 4198 with federal bench rest primer and 325 gr hornady.

[@HandloaderTV]

Sounds like a great load to me! I do love IMR 4198 powder in the 45-70! Thanks for taking the time to share your load, watch and comment! reach

[@gclaytony]

Trijicon Accupoint 1-6x are, IMO, a better match for hte lever gun if a red dot isn't sufficient. At 1x they are like a huge red dot (I have a 1-8 in the older AccuPower series on my 375 HH), which makes them more than good enough for close-in/dangerous game, yet gives enough magnification to match well to the ballistics of this cartridge. I'd love to see some loading information w/400gr bullets for this rifle which would be closer to the original bullet for this cartridge. The COLlimits might reduce the case capacity, but this action should be more than good for it based on what the discontined 450 Marlin was loaded to. IMO - YMMV Do you use gas checks on your lead bullets?

[@HandloaderTV]

I do like the Trijicon LPVO optics, and they certainly are more conducive for up close work and things of that nature. I probably should feature more Trijicon optics on here as my results with them thus far has been very very good. I think those LPVO optics make a lot of sense for these big bore cartridges. As far as the 400ish grain bullets go I did test some 405 grain bullets from HSM and you can find the results of those tests at our website loadData . com, I would encourage you to check that out. It just didn't make the cut for the video. I actually ran that load at Gunsite though and it performed very well on targets out to 250ish yards. Indeed the actions are extremely strong and the pressures they can handle is really quite impressive. I do and don't it really depends on what velocity I am shooting very broadly speaking if I am going over 1,300-1,400 FPS I usually start thinking about a Gas Check so it really depends upon the load and velocity I am shooting for. Great question, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@tonymoore5568]

I like the stand up reloaded stand but i have no idea where to get one. Can you pls put up a full picture and the measurements? Thank you so much. Tony

[@reestablishusa]

Thanks for your highly-informative material on handloading for the .45-70. I myself have not attempted such but may in the future, and what you say here is invaluable. As a minor incidental note, I think you are confusing two words in your speech, namely, "conducive" (pronounced CON-DOO-SIVE) and "conductive (CON-DUCT-IVE)" The context of your usage repeatedly suggests the first word, and not the second, even though your usage, for all I know, may have an inherent etymological correctness attached to it! :-)

[@nakoawarrior3186]

As I recall marlins problem was microgroove barrels. You were held to factory ammo,....well if you shot lead,....your barrel clogged,... it was the same with 30-30. I had to buy a Winchester to shoot lead. Marlins were always accurate and felt so much better. My friend had a marlin in the 1980's,........he killed all kinds of shit with his Marlin 45-70. I couldn't take the plunge I bought the Winchester 444 Marlin. I shoot lead. OOPS I was out side and missed most of this video. But My Winchester 444marlin shoots better than his. Just less load possibilities. 444 was always on the shelf and 45-70 was rarely on the shelf* Ruger should add a Marlin Loading rod on the end like marlin 22's have then it makes it loadable in many position's,..... it would up date the design.

[@HandloaderTV]

Indeed, a lot of folks did not like the microgroove barrels myself included, I like shooting cast bullets. I would love to get my hands on both the microgroove and cut rifled barrels and compare it to the Ruger but sadly those old marlins are a little outside of my budget these days. I have been a longstanding Marlin fan. I also would love to cover the .444 Marlin and run a full load development on that as well hopefully Ruger will add that cartridge to the line up once they are caught up. In regards to the loading rod at the end of the magazine tube I actually prefer the sidegate loading but I suppose the option would be nice just like Henry does I know they offer a 45-70 in both configurations. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@mdrichardson4]

Late model jm model 1895 guns used Ballard style rifling and mine shoots 1 1/4 “ groups with Skinner ghost ring sight at 100 yds

[@nakoawarrior3186]

@@mdrichardson4 Like I said Marlins always felt better than Winchesters,......So I know you enjoy yours more.

[@brianlee6849]

I know this is hand loaders magazine but I think it would be interesting to know how it shoots with factory ammo also. And what about black powder? I've heard guys say that black powder is lower velocity but very consistent and can be very accurate but you have to clean up. I thought that the trigger on that rifle was adjustable? If you could adjust that seven down to four or less that would be too bad for hunting rifle. Thank you

[@HandloaderTV]

I honestly agree in full with you and I have started to incorporate more factory ammo in our testing I think that is a great idea and it is something that we will be doing more of in the future as we can get out hands on different types of factory ammo. I do have some Black powder stuff planned for 2023 and we will be taking a deep dive into it with both 45 Colt and 45-70 as well but i'll be shooting a Pedersoli Sharps reproduction for the 45-70 black powder stuff. So keep an eye out for that in the future. In regards to the trigger sadly it is not adjustable from the factory without modification or buying a replacement trigger, If I could have lightened it without altering the parts or taking a stone to engagement surfaces I would have happily done it. Thank you for the suggestions and the question we greatly appreciate the feedback and take it seriously. We want to show you the things you want to see and provide good honest, informative and easy to follow content. --Jeremiah

[@brianlee6849]

@@HandloaderTV I just subscribed. I'm looking forward to your 45 call 4570 and the Pedersoli this is all very interesting to me. As I have thought about getting a 1873 in either 45 colt or the original 4440. I think just old stuff is very interesting and fun. Thank you 👍

[@benbaker2893]

Good for high wind and a 7lb trigger.

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for the feedback it is greatly appreciated! I would love to continue testing this rifle and perhaps work up some more loads for it and see what it can do without the wind and perhaps with a lighter trigger as well! Thanks! --Jeremiah

[@jeffboyd7780]

What height of rings did you use?

[@descalf]

It would be a miss? Remiss is the word you are looking for!

[@HandloaderTV]

On occasion I mix up my words, I appreciate the catch and I will certainly try to do better in the future. This was such a long video and there was so much to talk about and cover there were a few slip ups and mistakes made. I apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you for watching though and taking the time to comment we do appreciate it! --Jeremiah

[@wideningcarrot6]

mate, did you know people mix up their words? Give the bloke a break, you knew what he meant and I bet so did the rest of the audience.

[@descalf]

@@wideningcarrot6 so, what you are saying is its acceptable to be wrong when publicly giving advice, instructions or information?

[@wonderguyalive]

I know the max pressure of Marlins was 43000 psi. What's the max for this ruger marlin 45'-70 GBL? I'ven't fired mine yer. I've some handliads in starline brass with cci200 and 4198 fly at 1850. Ruger marlin manual says +p ammo not recommended. However henry manual doesn't say no such thing and I shot hsm 430 grn with my Henry.

[@HandloaderTV]

You can load to approximately 40,000 psi in these new Ruger Marlins from what I understand based on our testing however I wouldn't recommend going much past it. I'm honestly surprised they say not to use +P ammunition for the Marlin they are essentially the same strength as the Ruger made Marlins based on our testing. However Ruger also doesn't recommend handloads in their guns and it could be a liability thing. All loads shown in this video are under 40,000 psi. Great question and I hope that helps you out thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. --Jeremiah

[@janevanzanten4561]

Maybe,some time do a review on the henry 44-40. Load once shoot all week.Probaly more game has been got with the caliiber ,botth with Henry and a pistol.

[@HandloaderTV]

I do have plans to cover the 44-40 both in a revolver and in a lever action. I don't know if it will be a Henry but certainly a lever action. I do love the caliber and would love to cover loading for it in great detail. Great suggestion, it is always nice to know what other folks want to see. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@michaelyoung9753]

Quick question, does anybody have word on when these will be more readily available? From my understanding there are very few out there and they're selling for way above suggested retail.

[@HandloaderTV]

Great question, they are shipping out in limited quantity right now. I am not sure when they will be more readily available as it really depends when demand will start to taper off. Since the time of this filming Lipsey's has these on their website listed at MSRP. I would suggest checking out their website and seeing if you can order one through Lipsey's using your local gun store. Most of the online retailers such as Grab A Gun still have inflated prices. I hope that helps you out, thank you for watching and great question! --Jeremiah

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

Honestly the price needs to drop by 45 to 50%. I love the rifle, and had a pre remington version. I am excited to get a ruger version, but I honestly am not a player for more than 800

[@HandloaderTV]

I understand where you are coming from, who wouldn't want a cheaper gun. However, if that is at the cost of quality I would gladly pay more for a quality made gun that shoots as good as it looks and is rugged and reliable. This rifle I personally believe is worth every penny, I don't think you could buy a used Remington owned Marlin for $800.00 these days. I understand where you are coming from though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

@@HandloaderTV I can see a definate value increase from remington to ruger ownership. But I paid $650 for NIB pre Remington Guide Gun. I just don't see any advancements between pre remington to ruger that justify a tag almost 3x's original purchase price. Don't get me wrong, I am excited they are now owned by Ruger, and my collection would show that I have an afinity and complete confidence in Ruger, I'm just saying for 1600 +, that shoot $2.00+ ammo, I expect sub moa results. Theres a strong possibility I am asking too much, but thats just my view on it. Still I love the Marlin 45/70 so much, I will not fault anyone for getting one. I am simply not a player for more than $800, and you are 100% correct. The price inflated exponentially from the time Remington took over to current. It will probably stay there until people stop paying that price for them. I am hoping a bunch will be purchased by poeple who have no clue what they are getting themselves into and possibly snake one closer to my prefered price point. Unlikely, but a man can dream lol The only reason I no longer have mine is the same old story, Im a combat vet, times got tough, and she had to go to help get the groceries for the family. Happens. Some day Ill have a reason to reload 45/70 again :) As far as your content. It's rock solid, and a joy to watch. Thank YOU for being who you are and doing what you do.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@billy_h_bonney2097 A very well put statement that I can absolutely understand and get behind. Very well said and given your situation I can completely understand what you are saying and where you are coming from. I too hope the price will come down at some point, I think sub MOA is possible with a really good load and keeping everything super consistent. However, I still can understand your situation you bring up very good and valid points. I am a not here to push gun sales but rather educate and help equip others. That is exactly what you are doing here in your comment explaining your reasons which are completely reasonable and this is the conclusion you came to after watching the video. That means I am doing my job and I greatly appreciate the kind words and all the support watching and sharing our videos with others every little bit helps and we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah

[@billy_h_bonney2097]

@@HandloaderTV lol thank you very much. If my va check was a little more "generous" I would probably just pay the current asking price for one. They really are a must have for big bore rifle enthusiasts.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@billy_h_bonney2097 No problem, I appreciate commentary with good sound reasoning and folks that are cordial. I feel it is what the comments section is all about and we greatly appreciate your contributions to it! --Jeremiah

[@bigwillie2051]

Jeremiah, with what scope is your rifle fitted?

[@HandloaderTV]

Great question at 14:56 we start talking about the optic, it is a Leupold VX-3 HD 2.5-8x36 CDS-ZL with a Duplex reticle, I believe I incorrectly stated as 2-6 power optic. My apologies for that. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@bigwillie2051]

@@HandloaderTV Thanks a million. I truly appreciate you taking the time to speak with me.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@bigwillie2051 You are very welcome, sometimes it takes me a while to get around to replying to these comments but I do my best to read and respond to everyone! --Jeremiah

[@bigwillie2051]

@@HandloaderTV No worries. 🙂

[@rongaliene1055]

31.5 grains 3031 over lead cast 405 gr. Is the magic ticket

[@rangered2010]

In reference to the start of the video, what was the range and were you able to move that group onto the bullseye?

[@HandloaderTV]

We were shooting at 100 yards as stated in the video and the scope does track and we were easily able to zero the rifle with the load we settled on. We were not rezeroing the scope to hit the bullseye for every load we were more concerned with showing group sizes for each of the loads so you can see how accurate the rifle and load combination is. Good question and thank you for watching! --Jeremiah

[@chadcowman6293]

I was thinking of putting on the vortex crossfire 2 straight wall scope with vortex high hunter rings so I can still use the ghost ring under the scope

[@HandloaderTV]

I do wish I would have picked slightly higher rings so I could leave the ghost ring sight mounted but hindsight is always 20/20 perhaps something I will do in the future. I do like the setup with the scope though and have had great success with it so far. Thanks for watching and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@elj4673]

⁠what height rings did you use???

[@mattyallen3396]

If you want a reloading challenge.... 303 Brit

[@stevepuyear2738]

303 Brit. A fine cartridge in it's own right!

[@HandloaderTV]

@@stevepuyear2738 We have covered the .303 Brit in videos with Mike Venturino but have not done a load development video on it as of yet. I would love to provided I can find a rifle for a reasonable cost! I would love to cover the challenges associated with the cartridge at some point! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment! The suggestions are always appreciated! --Jeremiah

[@peterray5935]

@@HandloaderTV Ruger made a special run of their Number 1 in 303 British, many if not all of them went to Canada as it was our service cartridge for a lot of years.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@peterray5935 Now that would be a very cool and fun cartridge to play around with in the Number 1! --Jeremiah

[@peterray5935]

@@HandloaderTV Yes it would, I waffled on it when they were available new several years ago and ultimately passed on it, sort of regret it now.

[@rdizzo1313]

Just curious does your horse hear? 🧐 Asking for a friend…

[@HandloaderTV]

Yes he actually has his own set of hearing protection believe it or not. It's just difficult to see in the video because they are black and horses have deep ears. Great question though thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@CS-xo4kh]

The cross bolt safety is unnecessary and a disadvantage. There is a safety cock hammer position. The cross bolt is a lawyers idea of an idiot gun safety. I do not appreciate it’s implication.

[@chipsterb4946]

Edit to add: as you can see from the comments below, Jeremiah knows what he is talking about. This video isn’t perfect … but neither am I and I was too harsh in my criticism. - you lose credibility when you get facts egregiously wrong. Marlin filed patents for “micro groove rifling” in 1953. The 1895 was initially manufactured with micro groove rifling. (Source: Ranger Point Precision) When I was shopping for an 1895 some years ago, I had to be careful to get a limited edition that had Ballard rifling. I stopped watching this video.

[@HandloaderTV]

I will admit I did make a few mistakes in this video and some things certainly should have been clarified better and explained better. However, it is not false information according to Marlin Firearms, a History of the guns and company that made them, can be quoted as "July 1987 change from Micro-Groove to Ballard on 1895 only guns." This Microgroove rifling was used from 1953 to 1987 from what I gather. I never said they didn't use micro-groove rifling in those rifles but from 1987 on they were using Ballard style rifling when Remington bought them they made the switch back to the micro groove rifling and it without a doubt hurt them among the cast bullet shooters. This is not false information, you are taking my words out of context. There were a few mix ups with dates on this video but that information presented there is in fact correct. There were a few exceptions to this microgroove rifling and some were made without it which makes it all the more challenging to figure it out but I did a lot of research on the company for this video and I do my very best to get my facts straight and present them in an easy to follow manner but they are condensed for times sake and I could see how that could be confusing at times. And I am only human and I make mistakes from time to time and I am more than happy to correct them as I can. This is not false information though and it is not a mistake. Thank you for watching what you did and If you decide to finish the video I think you will find the information interesting. If not no hard feelings, we do our best to present the facts and unbiased opinions but are not perfect. --Jeremiah

[@chipsterb4946]

@@HandloaderTV Jeremiah - I know that the history of Marlin 1895s and “micro groove” rifling is confusing. The video sounded like that only appeared with the Remington takeover but you know it was earlier. I apologize for my harsh comment. Handloading requires precision and attention to details.

[@chipsterb4946]

@@HandloaderTV I am watching your video now. A load gate that doesn’t try to bite your fingers off is an improvement. My 1990s Marlin 1895 LTD is a fine rifle except for a load gate with a very bad attitude.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@chipsterb4946 I appreciate you taking the time to read my response and I hope it did not come off as too brash, it is a very large subject and unfortunately I only have so much time for these videos so condensing down large bits of history can be somewhat challenging. No need to apologize, it is good to have such things pointed out we certainly do not want to be giving folks the wrong impression with our presentations. The attention to details is critical for these videos to do well. I think we are some of the only ones presenting good factual information in an unbiased manner on the subject of Handloading. Indeed the loading gate is a very nice improvement on the rifle itself and I can greatly appreciate that especially while working on the back of a horse! Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and I apologize for any misconceptions in the video. Good shooting and happy handloading! --Jeremiah

[@bobmedic3214]

conducive not conductive. Two different words with two different meanings.

[@HandloaderTV]

Indeed they are very different, there were a few mistakes I made in this video and unfortunely they were all caught after it had been posted. That is a mistake I hope not to make again. Good catch and thank you for watching! --Jeremiah

[@timothyspence3408]

I think the Ruger SDL 4570 government is a piece of junk if that's the best grouping you shoot at 100 yd I can do better with my 444 Marlin pre 64

[@HandloaderTV]

I think a lot of folks overestimate how accurate a rifle actually is by small sample size testing. When we test we put hundreds of rounds through a rifle and a lever action is not as accurate as your modern bolt action rifle. While you may get a handful of Sub MOA loads I do think the results shown here are pretty typical of what kind of accuracy you can expect. With that said I have had no problems hitting 10" plates at 300 yards with this rifle. But of course as we always say in our videos we showcase the results for you exactly as we get them and we don't pull any punches and we post all of the results on our website LoadData. We strive for unbiased and honest reviews and providing the best and most accurate information possible. We appreciate you taking the time to watch and for taking the time to comment we appreciate it and hope to see you in the next video! --Jeremiah

[@descalf]

not conductive to accuracy? Pretty sure you mean conducive!

[@HandloaderTV]

On occasion I mix up my words, I appreciate the catch and I will certainly try to do better in the future. This was such a long video and there was so much to talk about and cover there were a few slip ups and mistakes made. I apologize for the inconvience. I did correct this in our video on the 7mm PRC so I appreciate you taking the time to point these out, We are always looking to improve our video and production quality. Thanks again, --Jeremiah

[@descalf]

@@HandloaderTV I'm glad you are not offended. I pay attention. 😊

[@HandloaderTV]

@@descalf I am on KZbin after all it wouldn't be very good for my mental health if I was easily offended. I appreciate constructive criticism when it's constructive. I am truly always trying to make these videos as good as I possibly can. Thanks for your help with this! --Jeremiah

[@mc4056]

Save your horses ears! They have ear plugs and muffs for horses

[@HandloaderTV]

Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. It's probably extremely difficult to see the black ear plugs on a black horse but I assure you they are in there. That horse has perfect hearing thanks to the earplug. If he didn't have earplugs in his involuntarily reaction to 45-70 would have been much greater. Thanks for watching. --Jeremiah

[@mc4056]

@@HandloaderTV Oh OK wow this is the first video I've seen shooting from horseback super cool video!

[@HandloaderTV]

@@mc4056 That was a lot of fun, I am very proud of that horse. He has been my buddy for a long time and kept me out of trouble as a teenager. He's the real deal, been there done that kinda horse. Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

[@masterofpuppets2004]

did that poor horse have hearing protection ? or have you already made him deaf ? lol....just joking. kind of....

[@HandloaderTV]

That is actually a great question and something I forgot to mention in the video, I thought you would be able to see them but upon reviewing the video you really can't but he did have hearing protection. He has special horse sized ear plugs that work very well. His hearing is actually much better than mine, so wear your ears. perhaps one day someone will make hearing protection for bird dogs, there is a million dollar idea if implemented correctly. At any rate thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@josephgomes8543]

From the brand new pressed shirt to the huge belt buckle and the goofy hat on, indoors, this whole channel smacks of hokey hollywood TV. I'm sure the info is good but the package puts me WAY off. Reloaders don't need hokey costumes and pristine TV sets, and shiny jewelry to attract our attention and viewership. I'll check back later, maybe you'll come to your senses. Meantime I'll be reading Handloader magazine as I have for many many years. I won't be watching here though.

[@HandloaderTV]

I assure you it's not a costume and it's actually what I am wearing today as I am in the office typing this reply, when I get out of the office I will be wearing the same thing and going to tend to my horses. It may look hokey but it's not a show it's just simply what I wear, at 49:05 or so you can even see the horse I trained and grew up riding. There are not many good horseman around these days and plenty of fake ones, so I can understand how you could be put off by it all. Before I worked at Wolfe that was how I made my living and I really enjoyed working horses and training them. The fact that I can incorporate my love and passion for firearms, handloading and horses together it a dream come true. I felt that it made it more genuine and personal, in addition to showcasing the rifle as a saddle gun and it's handiness on the back of a horse and it also makes for a very interesting test of the rifle in my humble opinion. While not every episode features my horse I do look the same in pretty much all the videos. To be honest with you I don't see myself changing how I dress anytime soon. I don't tell others how they should dress and I don't let others do the same with me. I do appreciate you taking the time to check out the videos though and hope that perhaps you would reconsider watching them now that you know a little more of the backstory. If you have any further questions or doubts don't hesitate to voice them here. I am happy to explain things or chat with our subscribers on here. I think that is what this is really all about to connect with our subscribers and viewers and offer good sound information and to do so in an an easy to follow manner. We greatly appreciate your subscription to Handloader and you taking the time to watch and comment. --Jeremiah

[@knuckledustaz]

@@HandloaderTVwell done for being genuine mate. Plenty of haters out there with nothing better to do.

[@HandloaderTV]

@@knuckledustaz Thank you for the kind words, I greatly appreciate it. Sad but true how many folks are highly critical of others without any justification to back it up or any facts to lay down other than their own opinions and we all know what is said about that. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

[@timjordan969]

I love these videos but….. it drives me crazy every time he says conductive and not conducive. Read the definition in the dictionary .

[@HandloaderTV]

That is certainly a problem of mine there are a few things that I know I mispronounce from time to time, I apologize, It is something that I would like to correct and will make a conscious effort to correct. Keep reminding me and hopefully it'll stick at some point. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah