Hands-On with the HP Reverb VR Headset!

[@HybridEnergy]

I like how the HP project manager was straight forward and to the point. No BSing around and excuses. Just this is a high res panel headset with other things you've seen before. The end.

[@RC-1290]

It looks like it was a long day ^_^ He did well :)

[@gurisler3622]

This is what all I value in VR. When watching Oculus people it is just about marketing. However for VR to flourish we need both parties.

[@HybridEnergy]

@Johan Very true, extremely impressive screens this early in the market for this price. Of course the wmr 1.0 tracking it is or it would hit a grand in pricing.

[@elev8dity]

Yeah he made it clear certain choices are held back by Microsoft (tracking/controllers) and won’t be updated until WMR2 is released by them. I was interested in the higher FOV and lower binocular overlap. The sweet spot discussion was good, but I wanted to hear more about those features.

[@MrRourk]

There is a battle brewing for the VR Workplace Headset. HP and Pimax RE are neck and neck. Price war going HP while the battle for ruggedness going to Pimax.

[@VirtualRealityOasis]

Excellent coverage as always! []-)

[@yaymckay]

[]-)

[@pacolyn88]

Are you waiting for them to salute you xD

[@casavr360]

Can both you guys do a Pico G2 4K review? It seems to be a good option for enterprise. www.pico-interactive.com/g2-4k

[@Nekminute]

This is the one for me i believe, ill check out the valve index specs once its known till then HP it is !!!EDIT!!! ordered the Valve Index, better tracking can go up to 144hz and better audio.

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

It's more expensive than the vive lmao

[@axiom1650]

@@littlesnowflakepunk855 The resolution is higher than the vive pro so makes sense?

[@Nekminute]

@@littlesnowflakepunk855 600 $ for the Vive ? Lol ur dreaming

[@dasboom7133]

Hopefully they adopt a halo strap, so much more comfortable.

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

@@Nekminute I legit just googled it, it's avaliable at Best Buy for $500

[@coppermine64]

Maybe the best VR hmd for simmers out there.

[@tested]

That’d be a great use case!

[@yfva123]

​@@tested Is the sound quality equal to the original Oculus Rift?

[@Bambeakz]

Yeah. I will keep my rift for movement games but need something like this on my rig. So i dont care about the controllers shipping with this headset.

[@chuckmakesit]

My thoughts exactly. Sim users will be seated in one place and won't spend much time with the controllers. However they have instruments and details inside the sim where the resolution will come in handy. The price tag is easier to swallow if you've already got a much more expensive cockpit setup.

[@gothicvillasgaming]

Knowing Index is coming out in weeks, I honestly don't see why anyone would consider HP Reverb

[@TechWizMaster]

i buy day one! thanks HP!! finally Ultra HD for VR.

[@TMERUNNR]

Definitely interested in this headset for my sim racing setup. Thanks guys, great job as always!

[@mpwave]

yep agree this could be perfect for sim racing, cockpit elite dangerous, all seated type off games very interesting great review

[@TMERUNNR]

@@mpwave 👍

[@aerith784]

Wow, HP Reverb is a perfect HMD for me. 4K and 114FOV. I mostly play Sims, use virtual desktop and watch movies in virtual cinema. So, controllers tracking issues no deal for me. My IPD is 65, so no problem with lack of IPD adjustment. Waiting passionately :)

[@BaranNCTMB]

if yo ujust want to watch movies in VC and use VD do i need a new video card or can I just use my rx580? im not going to be gaming

[@karrotop]

@@BaranNCTMB someone with more experience than me might be able to be more specific, but I'm pretty sure a 580 would be fine for a cinema

[@kraenk12]

Twice 2K is not 4K

[@colhapablap]

may 1st can't come soon enough for valve index info.

[@cr4zyw3ld3r]

Mostly excited for knuckles release.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

It's out, it's good, but the resolution could be higher imo. On the other hand, the Index focus is on gaming so

[@cr4zyw3ld3r]

@@RabbitConfirmed I would imagine index is worse due to 1440x1600 and same LCD subpixel layout

[@NarwhalGamingTV]

@@cr4zyw3ld3r BUT, the Index has 120hz or 144hz refresh rate. Which is a first.

[@cr4zyw3ld3r]

@@NarwhalGamingTV this is true, but in the case of either headset you need an epic rig to run these. My Vega FE cannot cope. Tested suggested that 1080TI does fine with the INdex in their hand on, but they seem to have played mostly low geometry games. So time will tell.

[@remelin75]

I was just listening instead of looking at the screen and then I heard that sound. 19:13 I didn't know if it came from the video or some cat snuck in to my home. Great video as always!

[@pumpuppthevolume]

reverb is double the pixels of the odyssey and of course more subpixels too

[@mattle3]

Double the price?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@mattle3 normally the Odyssey is 500... 300 on sale.... reverb is 600

[@mattle3]

@@pumpuppthevolume well I didn't knew the price till now so thx but 600 is double of 300 right?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@mattle3 300 is rare sales u have to wait for... it's 500 99% of the time

[@mattle3]

@@pumpuppthevolume ok well then it's still too expensive xD

[@MrAntimationStudios]

"If you move the controllers outside of the field of view you lose all tracking immediately" I understand why people think that given the camera setup, but the accelerometers in the controllers do a pretty good job of tracking when they're outside the camera's FOV. With first-hand experience in WMR with VRchat, onward, Superhot and Beatsaber, I can say WMR has never struggled with reaching outside of my FOV. Maybe it's a Steam VR thing because it has definitely gotten better with updates.

[@MrAntimationStudios]

@@lostecho4394 Up until a few months ago that was my experience. But recently I've been able to maintain 6DOF outside of my FOV almost indefinitely, however after 10 seconds the drift does become noticeable. It may be the case that some mod I have installed is causing this behavior.

[@Sevendogtags]

I have WMR as well and it is definitely does not last 10 seconds outside camera's view. It can predict your trajectory for 1-2 seconds outside of camera's view and then after that it turns into a 3DOF controller until it's back in view. Of course this is enough for any game that requires you grab a weapon/arrow etc.. from your back. And the improvements have nothing to do with SteamVR. It's the "Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR" app that has improved a lot and Windows updates.

[@flowsolo]

Props to HP for aiming to tackle common VR problems 👍🏼

[@ReckonerVR]

Very tempted.... I think I have analysis paralysis and can't make a decision on where to hedge my bets for my next HMD. Maybe the Valve Index specs on May 1st (hopefully) will sway me one way or another.

[@inceptional]

Funny that Microsoft's tracking, the one thing they're not really allowed to touch, is the one thing that now seems a bit out of date compared to all the other recently announced VR headsets like the Rift S, Quest and Index.

[@larrykozlowski6305]

I thought someone wrote a program that let you use Vive controllers with WMR? It still required you to have the dongles and light houses, but it seemed to work.

[@Eekary2]

I miss the Projections intro.

[@ValentineC137]

The WMR tracking only fails when it comes to bows you have to pull out past your shoulders.. :(

[@glenquagmire7724]

The MRTV review with Sebastian demonstrates for FPS games and Bow and Arrow games is just fine with the HP Reverb

[@ValentineC137]

​@@glenquagmire7724 as a HP WMR user, i'll be amazed if there aren't problems when taking aim and holding your hand still outside of the FOV of the headset. that's kinda the problem, if you just pull back and release you're fine but trying to aim then the hand looses tracking

[@posthumanistpotato]

@@glenquagmire7724 I... Don't believe you. I've used 5 different MR headsets and own an Odyssey+ and an Asus MR headset and THEY ALL HAVE THIS ISSUE. The HP VR1000 also has this issue. So.. Yeah, the only way it could be true is if the game dev added some productive motion stuff which won't be perfect, because the cameras just don't have the coverage. Hand tracking sucks with MR compared to Oculus or Vive.

[@RenderedReality]

I want that screen, in a headset with a better tracking system and better controllers.

[@janred94]

Yep, spot on. The tracking is not good enough to compete with the other devices. Microsoft should not abandon the VR market yet. They made it to 10% and more on Steam which is not bad. They should refine their products with more cameras etc. For the Rift S halo, I heard you can actually smush it onto your face pretty good, so it wont wobble as much.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3TTiXyImb57f8k it will cost u

[@CameronRule]

The headset is surprisingly small and it just looks so comfy and a great build quality

[@mikVR]

I am definitively buying it!

[@illgottengains1314]

This is the one. Thanks my dudes

[@scoobysnacks209]

its an exciting time for vr and the whole " its just the in thing it will die off " has been quashed. really great to see all these companys bringing out hmd's which makes the market very competitive which drives prices down for us .

[@Rhizix]

No IPD adjust is very dissapointing :/

[@brickman409]

It's so funny looking at all these cool new headsets coming out this year after hearing so many people saying "VR is dead"

[@snatcher420]

It's only dead for those who can't afford them or don't have one.

[@runi5413]

Seeing this makes me feel optimistic about the future of VR Get some competition going in that market, it's gonna be great for the tech and for us consumers

[@MatchTerm]

Good headset, great work from HP. But I'll wait for the valve index and index (knuckles) controllers: that's what I'm most looking for this year, as I'm not interested in standalone.

[@fiberop635]

You can use vive controllers and base station with the WMR headsets I use mine on the odyssey plus. It works with steam vr look into it.

[@adrianjaroszewski8955]

The base stations and controllers are pretty expensive tho

[@fiberop635]

@@adrianjaroszewski8955 buy a used vive like I did for 275 and then sell your windows controllers for 80 to 100 bucks.... you are only out 175ish I dont think that's bad vs terrible screens on a oculus or the price of a vice pro....

[@fiberop635]

@@lostecho4394 by every means terrible man. First the optics are the worst... God rays galore and the screens are very low resolution. I own rift, vive, lenovo explorer, odyssey, and odyssey plus and out of all of them vive and rift are really sub part in visual fidelity. This is why I'm excited about the hp reverb and why I'm so disappointed and pissed off at oculus/Facebook. The new valve index I really dont think that's going to have any better screens then a vive pro since its only display port 1.2 so inherent limitations on bandwidth.

[@fiberop635]

My issue is that many games are very much hindered or unplayable with the rift. Pretty much any sim or any first person shooter gets extremely blurry with distance. Sims are all terrible unless they are made cartoony which helps but then not much of a sim. Even the odyssey plus isnt enough to have a crisp image for simulations and it's by far surpasses anything oculus has. And honestly with how bad the God rays are on the rift I really dont like using it. I havent sold it yet because I'm just a bit too tied up to deal with having to.

[@fiberop635]

@@lostecho4394 I dont have anything wrong it's just i have used better displays and if you once again play any sim will notice how bad it really is. When you cant read gauges because the resolution is so low that it's more of a reference point vs a actual guage that's bad. Like I said the odyssey plus is way ahead but even still it's not there I'm hoping the reverb will be closer. On normal displays I normally play on a 4k panel or a 3440x1440 100hz so maybe I'm just useto better clarity. I hineslty think the rift is subpar and everyone that I have shown it too says the same thing its blurry (they dont know what resolution is) and then I give them the odyssey or the odyssey plus and they notice a huge difference but also still note that it's still not like a monitor. If you are flying a war bird and have to lean in to check manifold pressure or oil ect then you know the headset isnt really good enough. On the other side is if you cant spot planes due to the resolution being so muddy then once again. Afterwards you put on a better display and its day and night then well the evidence is clear....

[@BaseRealityVR]

HP If you are reading this , Please also make a non WMR version of this headset that works with steam VR lighthouse system INSTEAD. Nice to have some more options. Just the Headset as will be using Knukkles controllers

[@brianschwarm8267]

It sounds like it won’t have as much binocular overlap, since they are smaller screens moved outwards. Also the WMR controllers just suuuuuck once you’re spoiled by touch controllers or knuckles (now known as index controllers).

[@metathiasmetathias1721]

One of the unmentioned perks. Is the Bluetooth controller now being embedded in the device. Unlike first gen WMR devices (samsung odyssey+ has integrated BT). While it may seem like a trivial aspect. It in fact does make for a much more consistent experience with the controllers. The bluetooth communication between the game controllers head unit is critical to maintaining proper positioning and behavior of the controllers in-game. Having personally had to work with multiple bluetooth devices (some have horrible signal performance) Even good ones can have a difficult time maintaining consistent communication 100% of the time. nearby RF interference from other electronics. Can he a highly deleterious effect on BT. now that the bluetooth device is going to always be no more then 2 to 3 feet from it. Will significantly help the performance of this controller type. That said more camera's would be a most welcome addition to the tech. And all that really stands in the way of inside out tracking being the clear adopter standard in the future of VR.

[@toecutterjenkins]

I believe there's a way to use vive lighthouses and controllers with a wmr headset. I've seen a KZbinr do it. I have a Lenovo and use it regularly to play games. Tracking is rarely an issue. It may be in fast shooters which I don't really play so I can't comment on. It would be nice to see wmr start using more camera's though.

[@archlocker]

HP reverb G2! Woooo Thanks for your work Mr. Ludwig.

[@tree447]

Loved the to the point approach of the demo. It looks comfortable, lightweight and affordable. Can see a lot of testing went into it.

[@azaralamouri5140]

Will Reverb operate racing sims at 90Hz with 1080ti?

[@mycroft77]

There's literally no way. You're talking about pushing 9.3m pixels WITHOUT any super sampling/scaling. A 2080ti won't be able to do 90Hz in modern titles.

[@Corn8Bit]

Absolutely, and if not then just downsample a little bit. If you want to know if you can run a game at native res, then just use your rift and fire up GPU-Z, and if your GPU usage is under 30% then you're good.

[@bliglum]

Good question! I'd say Yes, with caveats. Turning settings down massively would help.. Could probably run oldies like Live for Speed well enough, maybe at high settings! Assetto Corsa and iRacing maybe medium low settings? But newer harder to run stuff like Pcars2 probably wouldn't run at all lol!

[@ShishakliAus]

@@mycroft77 nonsense. You can turn down graphic detail you know

[@TedThomasTT]

@@mycroft77 haha don't post if you don't have a clue

[@davidfishlock1968]

Sound quality wasn't talked about or the ear phones, how is it?

[@tested]

Unfortunately didn’t get to use them long enough to make a judgement. Will have to wait for the shipping unit for testing!

[@davidfishlock1968]

Thanks for reply, certainly interesting for sim racing and flying 2080ti definately needed for this type of game I think, think this will replace my odyssey plus for sims and the valve index will replace my rift for room scale stuff. Thanks for video

[@FischiPiSti]

Is Asgards Wrath really physics based? Because from the footage the sword looks wiggly. When I think of physics based, I'm thinking Blade&Sorcery, the weapons have weight, and lag behind to smooth it out and make it more tactical

[@Lean_Dad]

FischiPiSti o

[@vegtersbaas]

I fly DCS World in VR which is great for immersion but my Vice suxx in resolution. A huge priority in VR is able to see wtf is going on on the ground. I'm definitely gonna investigate the HP headset.

[@goebann4856]

I'm going to wait for news about the Valve Index and later this year the XTAL.

[@computethis1533]

never heard of the XTAL, enlighten me please

[@MS-1994]

Rift S simplicity and tracking + higher resolution displays is what I was hoping for this generation. Hasn't happened yet.

[@brentanthony6038]

same

[@Adnegoo]

Its amazing how every new gear improves a little bit of the VR technology.

[@magzire]

Agree these new gears do amazing things

[@MultiDreamer1979]

I love how you guys do reviews and testing stuff, very in depth and understandable!

[@fllavixgaming]

Flip up visor is gone... that was very useful for me.

[@phareliandawn9048]

am very tempted to get this when i already had the O+ but, the other part of my brain is saying I should keep the O+ and start saving for a certain powerful pc to use it with Google/LG (1000+ ppi resolution) vr hmd that will be available in the future..lol

[@lexx8650]

Valve Index and HP Reverb. The only headsets I have interest right now.

[@CAPTAINCAPSLOCK111]

Kudos to Norman for properly pronouncing "Fresnel"... guys, it is a french name!

[@95TurboSol]

Cool but good lord will any company do wide field of view already? Pimax did it but I hear they have issues with their optics. This is 4 years into commercial VR, we need high res wide FOV, I still haven't bought a headset for those reasons.

[@invrs3dcinematicreality67]

Excellent coverage, guys!

[@zenithquasar9623]

I'll wait for the Valve Index reveal, if it is underwhelming, then I will get this guy.

[@MadJackChurchill1312]

It won’t be.

[@manecronik]

Those controllers are nice as hell

[@zengrath]

Cool, glad you guys covered this one. I was curious what you guys thought about it :)

[@computethis1533]

i have a 1060......... welp cant get this one, ill probably just get a quest.

[@Clifton100]

Bruh, that's silly. if you've to the 6gb version, you'll just turn down the textures and resolution and play ANY vr game on the market. whereas with quest, you're constrained by that crappy processor to lowest textures and shaders turned down all the way. You'll get better fidelity and clarity even with a 1060. The 'minimum' 1080 is NOT the same as minimum for other headsets. Look at other reviews before getting teh quest.

[@computethis1533]

I already have a HP mixed reality (not the reverbe) and it runs crappy, I play vacation sim and everything I do gets the game/headset to freeze for a second Plus the quest and be played anywhere......

[@MartykanT]

The WMR headsets are actually quite good, I don't get why they are mentioned so little compared to others

[@5chr4pn3ll]

So will this be locked to a software launcher, or is it free to use on whatever game you have on steam for example? Also that Die by the Sword reference

[@bradley3549]

All Windows Mixed Reality headsets - including the HP Reverb, are Steam VR compatible. Official support varies on a game by game basis but it works pretty well in a lot of cases.

[@Tiv3e]

My ideal oculus rift upgrade would be reverbs resolution, oled rgb panel, psvr type lenses (no god rays) Rift S style headband cameras and controlers or original rift controllers with sensors, original rift headphones, volume and manual ipd adjustment on the headset. And maybe make the headband replacable with the overhead strap type for people who prefer it.

[@ViperVenoM13]

build it your self 😂 industry seems to not care about us

[@stachowi]

Love these videos, you guys do an amazing job!

[@weightlessempty]

“On a 1070, it gets downscaled and uprezzed.” Is there a scaler in the HMD, or is this just regular subsampling? Since DP 1.4 is a requirement for 90Hz, I’d have assumed there’s no scaler onboard, but if you have a direct line to ask HP, I’d be very curious, thanks!

[@michaeltran4948]

Norm, Jeremy, you mention that tracking isn’t as good as the Vive or Rift but your video showed you in a room with blank white and teal walls. My understanding is that inside-out tracking works like DSLR autofocus - it needs points of contrast to lock onto. Did tracking improve in rooms with lots of stationary furniture?

[@98Zai]

Shadowpoint sounds awesome! :D Hope it's not exclusive for long.

[@toastweek3745]

Love you two guys and Kishore! Thoroughly enjoy the pod am very excited about VR :)

[@serv3322]

The knuckles will work with this, you'll just need a Steam Controller USB dongle and a couple Lighthouses. Best of both worlds.

[@whydoesgoogleruinyoutube724]

That would be awesome since I already have the og lighthouses. If the Index doesn't deliver, this could be the way to go. HYPE!

[@henryyopp9094]

@@whydoesgoogleruinyoutube724 I am seriously considering this setup, depends on Index specs.

[@robsmith5434]

Henry Yopp - Ditto. That could be great but I’m going to wait to see the specs of the Valve Index.

[@theobald123]

Cant wait for the Reverb. This resolution is what Ive been waiting for since I bought the Gear VR years ago.

[@Hephera]

Did y'all forget to make this an episode of projections? theres no intro

[@shaunmadden545]

oh yeah, man i miss that intro. The song is the best!!

[@RoyPeaks]

Waiting to shelf the Vive-Pro for this one...no more setting up tripods on opposite corners of the room.

[@martinomovies]

What was the comfort like for the HP Reverb? Did it feel noticeably lighter?

[@cpf7894]

Have you guys covered any of the Pimax products. 5K Xr looks interesting.

[@SheepAmongG.O.A.T]

Rift S is my only short term option. I'm already invested in oculus, which isnt enough by itself to feel locked in, but I dont want anything to do with WMRs weak tracking, nor am I interested in lighthouse or any external sensing. Rift S inside out looks damn good

[@peterpensi9478]

lol, he’s thinking of Index all the time that’s why he’s straight forward 😂

[@LightningAussie]

Love to see headset size and style with headphones with Touch style controllers and outside in tracking

[@kenshiromilesvt.7037]

Watchin with my google cardboard 😊

[@xAlexDarkx]

Hope for HP Reverb sales in Europe.

[@AK-jt7ug]

U can use vive controllers with a mod

[@jordanmackay6746]

Is their "sweet spot test" actually effective? Most headsets run with fixed foveated rendering so the clarity is going to diminish as you look away from the middle

[@francescofazio3518]

My only concern is about the tracking really. I mean I am a Rift user with a GTX 1080ti and i7-8700k, 4 sensors ceiling mounted and the tracking is absolutely perfect I cant recall the last time my Oculus touch controllers lost tracking. Now the HP reverb is extremely interesting not to say it is the most interesting headset about to be release but the tracking ..... I play a lot of FPS but also Skyrim and other games where you certainly have to go with your hands on your back. Before spending 599 euros I would like to be sure I won't have tracking issues ... any comment is welcome

[@HATEregelt]

Yea im kinda disappointed as well that they still only use 2 cameras for a new gen of theirs. I'll check the Rift s out because they said it will have 5 cameras? But the resolution will prob. suck in comparison.

[@MsHojat]

*Die by the Sword* yes! I feel like hardly anyone has heard of that or remembers that, but ever since VR was budding out I made mention of it several times. Developers became lazy and focused more and more on art and sound rather than cool gameplay mechanics like Die by the Sword. At least VR is forcing it in some ways. There's still other games that have mechanics that have gone completely abandoned though (ex. Westwood's _Nox_)

[@AstroFerko]

I would get this headset if I could use the oculus touch controllers. I wonder if there is a somewhat simple workaround... I really want that res

[@S0K0N0MI]

The only question I care about; Will this be compatible with steamVR, and will it bust Vives hump?

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Inside out tracking seems to be the way the industry is going its easy to set up and makes the system over $100 to $200 cheaper.

[@gothicvillasgaming]

I played around with Odyssey and have to say it wasnt great. After owning Vive for the past 2 years, trying Odyssey was immediate input downgrade noticeable.

[@patrickfain9318]

So would this headset be the best for someone that just loves watching movies in theater environments? I'm really tired of stand alone cause they are so heavy on my face and run hot all the time. Thanks for the helpful video

[@chrisc3825]

Nice Asteroids wallpaper. Great video also, thanks :)

[@janred94]

Maybe I have missed it but did you guys tell your IPD? Because for fixed lenses that would be good to know.

[@tested]

Norm: 65, Jeremy: 61

[@AstroFerko]

HP knows what's up

[@bobtheshow24]

Congrats for the review, I need help I have oculus rift, I only Play games like IRacing, X-plane 11, and Elite Dangerous. What VR headset could be the best for me to buy in 2019. Thx you To help.

[@simynille]

what does high resolution mean in 2019? do you still see this kind of grid or not?

[@dhaupert]

I love this channel and the videos but this one leaves me puzzled. Why not mention and review the audio headphones- that’s a major feature in light of how much time you spent discussing the step backwards on the Rift S- rumor is that these are a step up from the rift because they are removable. Also what about the LCD screen? How is the contrast and black levels? We rely on you guys for the honest scoop. Please don’t leave this out! Finally no IPD adjustment is a huge flaw and it would be good to know whether that’s going to be a problem on this device or not.

[@williamcousert]

Will HP have any standalone headsets to compete with the Oculus Quest?

[@TheOGjarilo]

They have a great product on their hands with screens that are going to be a privilege to use till the end of 2019. Perhaps later in the year the Cosmos may enter with a 4k screen but with it's 4 camera tracking I'd guess a $799. At only 2.9" diameter per eye we are talking about some high ppi here. Damn, I want to add it to my collection. Windows tracking was a no brainer for cost cutting I guess, it's not that great but otherwise it would a $900+ HMD. Of course, tested guys always have great questions.

[@guardiancreator]

Like it has higher resolution but don't like the lens or the controllers or outside tracking. Feels Like headsets are only getting one thing better and keeping everything else the same

[@burger1113]

Hmm interesting... My ipd is kinda small but if that works that would be nice... The tracking is still a deal breaker for me though. They really need to get it to track a little further behind the body. At least upto where the controller is directly above the head or above the shoulder. Many games specifically require players to reach up over the shoulder to grab stuff, so...

[@MsHojat]

I like the strait-shooting sincere HP rep. "rep" is hardly even an accurate reflection of his title, but I suppose it's still not wrong.

[@donkeydem2824]

Awesome video ! TY.... You guys do an exceptional job in presenting this new information.

[@Adnegoo]

Hey, a miss a lot or this should be a episode of "PROJECTIONS"? I love that format..

[@m0rph3u5.]

Loved Jeremy's reference @ 19:59 was actually thinking about that as well ;) .. 22:25 was waiting for somebody to quote Resident Evil 7 lol.. As usual great coverage thanks guys

[@joshuaszeto]

i thought HP said that the steam controllers were compatible with this headset... unless they explicitly told you otherwise.. is that the case?

[@bradley3549]

They said the controllers were compatible with Steam VR. That means the controller and models are built into Steam VR (Same as all over windows mixed reality based VR headsets). Different statement.

[@joshuaszeto]

@@bradley3549I heard it from a few other videos doing a first look at it. so I guess the question is... does the steam vr controllers use a tracking system that is separate from the headset?

[@bradley3549]

@@joshuaszeto If by "Steam VR" controllers you mean "HTC Vive" controllers, then yes. They use the lighthouse tracking system that requires external boxes that is separate from the headset. Allegedly you can get the Vive controllers working with WMR headsets so long as you have the lighthouses. I have not personally tried this myself. Steam VR itself is controller agnostic. It has support for HTC Vive, Windows Mixed Reality, Oculus Rift Touch and of course the Valve Knuckles controllers for sure, maybe others. As new controllers come out they will certainly be added.

[@joshuaszeto]

@@bradley3549 i was more referring to their upcoming ones that can track individual fingers on the controller.

[@bradley3549]

@@joshuaszeto I doubt anybody knows the answer to that question at the moment, but given the fact that the Knuckles/Index controllers use lighthouse technology just like the Vive controllers, I bet it will be possible to make that combination work as well. I'm hoping the Valve Index is released with good enough visual quality to make that pointless.

[@johntheux9238]

Tracking? As good as lighthouse?

[@timmontanus4311]

Nope not at all, wmr is known for not so great tracking. There are only 2 camera's for the inside- outtracking, in comparison quest has 4 camera's and rift S 5.

[@JamesCobalt]

Feels as good to me when it’s within view and batteries are fresh. Really falls off when batteries are around half capacity. Totally falls apart when you’re outside the view of the cameras.

[@SuperScottschannel]

It's mid june and this HP reverb headset is still not available anywhere what the h*** is going on at HP????????

[@kevinisawake]

How I wish the Reverb Resolution was in the Quest - that would have been the Ultimate Wireless VR Headset of all time. I will still buy the Quest - I don't have a 1080 GPU in sight.

[@GummyBearRacing]

Well they are only like $300 used right now

[@CameronRule]

How good is the reprojection software vs let's say the new oculus asw 2.0? I wonder... 🤔🤪

[@spyro440]

If they just could upgrade this to 4+ cameras for imporoved tracking volume like Rift Quest or S, this would definitely be my new headset :(

[@sguploads9601]

the main markt is corporate - they dont need it.

[@izagury]

I want one!

[@ECAstack]

So how was the SDE? I assume its gone but would like to know for sure.

[@tested]

Basically gone

[@ECAstack]

@@tested Nice