Cross Fire Rigging

[@TracyWessel]

I've seen a number of videos on this rigging from the near side, but would love to see how you've set up your off side. I mean it's a bit different to hold the stability of a long billet on the off side. Could you show us?

[@hummbird69]

That looks a lot like my Imus 4-Beat saddle. The rigging always confuses me if I don't use it often enough. Always need to watch a video like this to refresh my memory. Thanks for the good demonstration!

[@EricCraig-km4sb]

Lots to address here. Fundamentally an excellent video, as in this gentleman is dispensing nothing but good information. I previously only have heard of rigging your cinch (girth for English folks) like this referred to as "Hope" rigging. "Hope" saddles were a type from 19th century Texas. I have never seen an original, so can't say if this is actually correct. Rigging a cinch in this fashion can be done with double rigged western saddles, and can be beneficial for many horses. Particularly with production saddles. Crossfire seems a reasonable term for this. It is not center fire rigging. As for the saddle, it's some kinda mix of english, Australian, and western. Maybe a little Hope saddle thrown in there. I think Tucker Trail saddles may be similar. I see some good stuff in this saddle. In case anyone is interested, I've cowboyed, packed, and am an old school saddle maker, retired.

[@msheza]

My mare is 15 hand, short backed, high withered, and has baby belly from having 3 babies when she was with someone else. She sometimes galls in her elbow/armpit. I have tried several cinches, including mohair & also a neoprene with elbow cut outs. I've also had a center fire rigging adapter made...which has been the only thing I have found that keeps her from galling. The bummer about the adapter is that it's bulky. I'd love to try the set up in this video of yours!! I've seen this a few times now and I really think it'll help with the problem. Question: how long of strap/latigo do you need for this? And if I normally use a 32" cinch do I use maybe a 28" or30" since it looks to be in a lower position? Thank you in advance!

[@HandyHorsemanOhio]

+michelle hooper send me a pic of you horses back and I'll have a look too see what can be done [e-mail] Thx Ted

[@JRMny-nl4ut]

I like that. Glad found this channel.

[@gail2283]

Love this saddle - thanks for the explanation - Is that a nylon or leather Latigo? Thanks you - love your videos - I have learned so much

[@barryedwardchadwick8162]

The regular method of cinching is called rim fire,I have rigged my horses this way for 40 years and it’s called centre fire

[@travfreak]

My treeless western saddle keeps tip in the back even when we shim the pad and it’s cause of my horses confirmation in his body so this might be something for us as it makes the saddle slip back because of the gap in the back .. but my saddle only has slots in the back so how do I attach the ring ?

[@degraham9198]

Who makes this saddle?

[@sierra818]

Can you give exact name and maker of this saddle? Thanks

[@tennesseegirl5539]

I was going to ask. Looks like an Eli Miller.

[@robinstrong5811]

must be a big secret .....

[@barbaradick4021]

Can I please ask, what is the name of your saddle. Thank you

[@HandyHorsemanOhio]

I call it a trooper

[@blizzardsandwizards3134]

Could you do this with a western saddle also?

[@cantbebothered112]

Umm.... That is a western saddle.

[@verona1016]

As a primarily English rider I see nothing English style about that saddle... do you say that only because it doesn't use a separate back cinch? Or because there's a long flap underneath the front ring? Or for some other reason?

[@HandyHorsemanOhio]

This rigging works very well for us

[@dragally1]

@@HandyHorsemanOhio Youre kind of a smart alek arent you?

[@payntpot7623]

No point asking why you label this saddle as you do. (statement not question) Some have already commented about how this saddle in no way resembles an english (or even colonial) saddle, yet their questions have been thus ignored.

[@HandyHorsemanOhio]

This saddle works very well for the folks we serve call it anything you like Thanks

[@payntpot7623]

@@HandyHorsemanOhio I think people were asking to learn; not to criticise. This way, we still have no understanding of your reasoning; which may have been useful to us.

[@msheza]

+Handy Horseman I will send you the pics right now! Thank you! :)

[@lostthepart]

There is nothing English about this saddle. Except they are both made from leather.

[@kennedymartin2804]

Not to hate or anything, but it's not a " western girth," it's a cinch when you are referring to western disciplines. Like when riding English it's called a girth. When western it's a cinch.