Hanif in the Quran, Syriac Christians and Manicheans

The concept of Hanif in the Quran has long been a subject of scholarly debate and analysis. While some scholars view Hanif as an exclusively Islamic concept, others see it as part of a broader religious and cultural milieu. Hanif as a term is used in the Quran to describe individuals who have rejected polytheism and embraced monotheism, but who are not necessarily Muslim. This video provides several well-established theories about this enigmatic term, and connects the concept with a Manichean tradition.
Used Material:
The Creed of Abu Amir. ISRAEL ORIENTAL STUDIES XII, 1992. Gil, Moshe
FROM ‘PAGANISM’ TO ‘MONOTHEISM’ A Theory on the Semantic Reversal of the Semitic Root HNP, 2018. Ghassan Osmat
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[@moshekallam1070]

According to Al-Tabari, Hanifiyya were Monotheists who renounced both idolatry and the Judeo-Christian Bible simultaneously, and preceded Islam. Though, Roman Catholics called anyone outside the ecclesia in general, including pagans, a Hanpa (Heathen).

[@gnosticquran]

And Jews too, along with the Nestorians.

[@MrSparkums]

Not Judeo Christian.. Was Moses a Jew? Abraham Isaac Jacob Israel? How about Joseph the actual chosen son, to whose descendants the "fruitful" promises promised to Abraham pertain, Jew?

[@skepticseeker]

May I know the meaning and transliteration of your channel's Logo which is written in arabic?

[@ohamatchhams]

The connection of Patriarch Abraham and other believing gentiles (gentiles as being people of the Nations) with the Hanifs are of course remaining uncontested alongside the interesting proposition of the early Eastern Christian apologetics with their polemicists are accusing those whose excommunicated of their Faiths as "Hanputa" or any suspiciously cognate terms being very plausible Although this is to note regarding Bardaisan alleged dualism isn't even true considering that at these Church Fathers accusations also listed some of Bardaisan works includes treatises to criticises both Valentinus (Monist Christian) and Marcion (the actual radical dualist ala Mani kind of Christian), the alleged connection of Bardaisan to Hymn of The Pearl and Allogenes already signifies this as Bardaisan's experiences with early Christian Theologies in the "foreign" East unknowingly reflects of his personal journeys, much like how early """canonised""" 4/5 Imams of Islam were shaping the self-claimed "Orthodoxy" of Islam despite all of their traces and courses are running through personal experiences too, hence early Islam are as flexible as early Christianity all while being even way less centralised in it's process of spreading through far and wide, this alone proves of how Islam posits alluring rapid conversion (aside from intermarriages, trades, conquests, lenient taxing allures and various unmentioned citizenry beneficiary incentives) throughout history in different lands and regions in such early eras The Abraxas is clearly referencing Patriarch Abraham too in Celestial manner, creating 360/365 lesser Archons (including Jewish OT deity) as among pillars of The World to be consumed by Great Invisible Spirit in Basilidean Gnostic Theology (which Basilideans are also happens to believe in substitution of Jesus in Crucifixion, with Jesus possibly confused with Simon of Cyrene, akin to what so many Muslims believes and interpreted the destiny of Jesus to avoid Crucifixion and raised directly to Allah, some Sethian texts also believes this too in the almost unmentioned in youtube Gnostic spheres with NHL's own Coptic Apocalypse of Peter and Second Treatise of The Great Seth), Sethians also emphasize Seth over both Abel and Cain in similar manner to The Qur'an elevates Ishmael over Isaac and Jacob (whilst respecting them, contrary to even Ebionites veneration of Jewish Isaac and demotion of Gentile Ishmael in their Jewish-Christian themes) All and all, very good video, although I really hope you really explores avenues beyond of the radical dualism of Manichaeism, as "Gnosticism" is not monolithic and it's not just about Mani (even Manichaeism are pretty much being way latter iterations compared to others, the early Jewish Christians are Gnostics akin to Cerinthus to "Gnostic Justin" haven't been explored by yours in tandem to connection to Islam, just to my suggestions, ultimately it's your choices but to give you greater retrospectives beyond the limitation of perceptions)

[@gnosticquran]

I myself am very delicate about the dwaita-advaita issue, the line is sometimes very murky. However, I think it is extremely important to portray in the media sphere the presence of dualistic traditions in the Middle East. So the monstrous claims that the Middle East is one monistic soup, which I have already heard from some larping Zoroastrians, do not arise. Today the propaganda of monism is very strong, both on the part of new age pseudo-gurus and on the part of disingenuous scientists who camouflage their monistic philosophy of eliminative materialism as a science, which gives me the task of emphasizing dualism in my videos. Salaam.

[@ohamatchhams]

@@gnosticquran The problem with Dwaita and Adwaita issues are even murkied further by how Religious traditions derived to both dualism and monism are just viewed from the restriction of Hinduism per-se, despite there was a looot of developments of Religious and Philosophical traditions which Hinduism it"self" considers as "Nastika" to downright Sramana, some of them even downright are rejecting Vedas' systems, so the issues of Dvaita vs Advaita being shoved into Monism vs Dualism cases in Occidental and MENA (both Arabic, Persian to Transoxiana/Turkic) Religious tendencies are very limiting with it's perceptions, monism as tendencies in the Occidental world were also popularised by Rene Guenon's Perennialism which admits by his own volition to lack understanding of Sramana religions akin to Buddhism, in which Buddhism were emerges to claim it's own Religious tradition to against the dualism of "Eternalism" (something akin to Solipsism of Brahman-Atman discourses) and Annihilationism (a tendency which emerges in Indian's pure skepticism akin to Charvaka or else the more recent ones with modern rich tech Indian intellectuals blindly adapting Western atheistic/agnostic tendencies) Nonetheless Buddhism fails in India after centuries of Theological wars, while the victors gains the spoils even in Dharmic scenes, only for Buddhism to grow and retaining in mostly Mahayana and Vajrayana groups and sects in East Asia and Indo-China, hence the usage of "Advaita-Dvaita" to compare it with early Christianity and Apocryphal Judaic group splinters (akin to Mandaeism, Essenes, Samaritans, Dositheans, etc) are complete misnomer too, Salam

[@skepticseeker]

@@gnosticquran Monism is Unity... Dualism is Duality which is more like Monotheism like God/Evil, God/Creation etc.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

Hello Abu, i send you couple mails, please check them. I was guest on one of your lives. Can you sent me source where said that some gnostic lider claimed that he was wisited by angel inn a cave and that he sow real size of that angle, angel was huge. He called angel son of god or something?.

[@arturodepaudhon3133]

Thanks to the almighty creator Hw who give me little knowledge and i found the true and straight religion the religion of prophet abraham hanefan or hanif.thank you o lord .i am now one of the true believers.. A mumin..

[@Bei-Abedan]

NB Abraham was not a mushrik even though he was Hanifan (descended from a Hanif) not a Hanif (Apostate).

[@Bei-Abedan]

Hanif is Hebrew too. It does not mean goy.

[@Bei-Abedan]

Bema is also a Hebrew word.

[@skepticseeker]

he did not descend from any hanif, his father was idolater....

[@Bei-Abedan]

@@skepticseeker Since you clearly don't know anything about Noahite Judaism, what makes you think you are at all qualified to respond to a channel which teaches Noahite Judaism? A normal person who didn't understand would have written "what do you mean by that?" And would have gotten a very helpful answer.

[@skepticseeker]

@@Bei-Abedan noahite or noahide? who even knows if noah's name was noah, there was no hebrew back then...also abraham himself says his father was an idolater in both the bible and other books

[@aliij2538]

Why did the early moslems reverted to supposedly Abraham? I thought each new religion was supposed to abrogate the previous ones according to islam! This was a revolutionary act against those contemporaries and what better than to bring new-old theologies and such while teying to win new supporters by incorporating elements from various religions (twaheed i.e. unification of gods).

[@laithmughrabi8990]

All theologies from adam to mohammad had the same purpose, it's to worship god. Christians loved jesus much that they worshipped him(the same happened to many prophets before abraham), islam is to remind all the people of monotheism(judaisim has been practiced by one racial group)

[@aliij2538]

@@laithmughrabi8990 Islam's monotheism is actually about moon-thiesm. It's an ancient pagan cult that worshipped the black stone and has been resurrected with some twisted "Abrahamic" elements. The Kaaba itself was a pagan shrine from the beginning but over time the narrative has been rewritten. This word Tawheed was taken from another language (Ethiopic) which means unification but misunderstood by the illiterate pagans to mean something else. Same goes for the word "Ahad / أحد" Which in original Hebrew echad means one as in unity. Even in Arabic it means one of. Ironically, chapter of the Ahad is also called the chapter of Tawheed (mistakenly translated as monotheism) 😂 We have to blindly believe in the "last revelation" to reach your conclusion.

[@laithmughrabi8990]

@@aliij2538 lol "moon thiesm". We use the symbol of the crescent (moon) because we use it to determine the times of al Haj (otherwise it's not important). We don't worship a black stone nor a black cube. We believe the Kaba is the first place that adam built and worshipped god, then got destroyed by the Great flood, then Abraham rebuilt it with his son Ismael, when the people of arabic peninsula forgot the teachings of ismael to worship only one god, they started worshipping the good men who followed ismael (they considered them gods as the Christian did with Jesus), they made idols for each one inside Kaba, then when muslims conquered Meka they destroyed all of them. The black stone in one of the Kaba's corners marks the place to begin with Al haj. Fact: Kaba wasn't cube, it was a cube + a quarter sphere attached to it. fact: we used other symbols than crescent, like the Star of David (as in the flag of Barbarossa Brothers).

[@firatmengi5715]

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[@jaavaidhashim5845]

In QURANIC SCRIPTURE (HANIFAN MUSLIMAN

[@ahmedhashim2652]

Boring, pedantic and splitting hairs on the word “hanif” which simply means scissors gait, walking with legs bent slightly.

[@skepticseeker]

Hanifs existed before abraham too...the word hanif maybe new, but the concept was old and existed in all places in the world.

[@Bei-Abedan]

Not all places, the first Hanif (Heretic) was Serug, the great-grandfather of Abram.

[@jeon2744]

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[@Dominion-2018]

Abraham and Adam were muslims.

[@skepticseeker]

did they run around black cube and run between safa marwa? nope, so they are not muslims in the present religious sense ...

[@supersaiyanbluevegito4923]

@@skepticseeker do you know what the meaning of Muslim is? The Quran already has mention that the prophets of God submitted their will to God.

[@Dominion-2018]

@@skepticseeker I dont do that and i am muslim.

[@abdulharis9390]

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[@Sosarchives]

@@supersaiyanbluevegito4923anyone who proclaims shahada, if islam is just submission to the one god, why do you takfir others lol

[@jaavaidhashim5845]

IN QURANIC SCRIPTURE OF KALAM ALLAH KITABULLAH AND SUNNATULLAH OF MILLAT IBRAHIM'S HANIFS RELIGION WORSHIP AL RAHMAN IN QURANIC VERSES AND FOLLOW (HANIFIYYAH) YOU ARE A LIAR

[@TingTong2568]

Kalam itself is a copypaste of the Neoplatonism philosophy. Islam is a fake cult

[@Dominion-2018]

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