HAPPY PRIDE!!! Pride (2014) || Movie Commentary & Reaction || FIRST TIME WATCHING

[@stufour]

Singing in harmony is a huge part of Welsh culture. This spontaneous singing does happen. There is a corpus of songs everyone grows up singing.

[@bunnyslippers5183]

This is such a beautiful movie, my grandad grew up in a Welsh mining town so I heard a lot about the strikes- Margaret Thatcher really did just decide to try and starve them all out, it was awful. Some things to note, the random singing? The Welsh are known for their choirs, honestly they were probably made to sing that song at least once a week in school so they’d all know it. And from my Welsh side of the family I can say that randomly bursting into song when they’ve had a couple of drinks isn’t surprising. Mark Ashton started to spiral in the film after seeing that guy in the club; the guy said he was on a farewell tour… and was a gay man in the 80s, he was saying without saying that he’d been diagnosed with AIDS and Mark, having been *with* him was concerned that he might have caught it too, that’s why he was getting at Bromley about “life being short.” The miners turning their backs after that was just another blow. With Welsh blood and being a member of the alphabet club myself this movie always moves me to tears. Thank you for a great reaction to a beautiful film.

[@kattahj]

I love this film so much! Most of the characters are real people, though Joe is fictional - he's meant to represent that "new to the movement" gay that we've all been at some point. So when you get out there to meet your community, remember, we've all been new and nervous! When the film came out, there were text or video interviews with some of the people involved: Sian, Mike, Jonathan and Dai I remember seeing. They said the film is about 80% factual. 😀 And if you want footage from the time it happened, there's a documentary called "All out! Dancing in Dulais", which is up on KZbin and which really started the filmmakers' journey with this story.

[@kattahj]

One thing I remember was that the filmmakers said people in Wales still speak about Mark Ashton like he's Joan of Arc. RIP 😢

[@GodlessScummer]

I went to see this movie in the cinema when it came out. I can tell you that there wasn't a dry eye in the whole movie theater when "Bread and Roses" was sung. I've been fortunate enough to meet some people that were involved in LGSM and their story is inspiring.

[@lowriebean8140]

To be fair in Wales they probably do sporadically burst into song! Loved this from the first time I saw it in 2014. Fabulous cast and a funny & moving film. 💕

[@morganetches3749]

It didn’t go back to the way it was before. The pits shut down and a whole way of life was destroyed

[@meronr74]

I grew up in a mining community in the 1980s and am half Welsh and this film has me sobbing every single time. I've met Mike (played by Joe Gilgun) and he is still an activist, and still has his Pits& Perverts t shirt. He's in the march sequence at the end of the film. A truly remarkable true story.

[@agenttheater5]

1:16:23 Rumour has it there are parts of whales where they talk about Marc Ashton as if he were Joan of Arc. Apparently when he died the miners all came back in their buses with their banners and bands to honour him, tears everywhere. I think it was better to end it with seeing him alive and enjoying himself. The song they play in the credits - 'For A Friend'. I think that was written for him.

[@cassandrabellingham8486]

It’s Wales, they really do burst into song regularly. Especially national pride songs like this one. Pretty much every town will have mutiple choirs and it’s a big part of the school curriculum to sing.

[@Chant2627]

Absolutely love your reaction to this film, one of my favourite films, I cry every time.

[@lisannebaumholz5028]

The song "Bread and Roses" was actually based on a poem by an American in 1911. It was later set to music by an American woman in 1917. It has long been an anthem to workers, the women's movement and acts of solidarity everywhere. So, not unusual for people involved in a labour struggle to break into this song in particular. It's just a bonus that this was in Wales, home of people who seem to born with amazing voices. Why? Who knows but thanks for giving us Dylan Thomas, Richard Burton, Tom Jones, Anthony Hopkins, etc. etc. etc. A short history of the song (from Wikipedia): "Bread and Roses" is a political slogan as well as the name of an associated poem and song. It originated in a speech given by American women's suffrage activist Helen Todd; a line in that speech about "bread for all, and roses too"[1] inspired the title of the poem Bread and Roses by James Oppenheim.[2] The poem was first published in The American Magazine in December 1911, with the attribution line "'Bread for all, and Roses, too'-a slogan of the women in the West."[3] The poem has been translated into other languages and has been set to music by at least three composers. "As we come marching, marching, in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill-lofts gray"-first lines of Bread and Roses. Image of workers marching during the Lawrence textile strike. The phrase is commonly associated with the textile strike in Lawrence, Massachusetts, between January and March 1912, now often referred to as the "Bread and Roses strike". The slogan pairing bread and roses, appealing for both fair wages and dignified conditions, found resonance as transcending "the sometimes tedious struggles for marginal economic advances" in the "light of labor struggles as based on striving for dignity and respect", as Robert J. S. Ross wrote in 2013.[4]

[@CB-kh8lr]

Anywhere else and I'd fully agree the singing scene was unrealistic, but they're Welsh, the country of song. They'd be in choirs - and would sing together every night.

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Love this movie! Solidarity fuck yeah ✊🏳‍🌈

[@GoddessOfWhatnot]

Fecking love this movie 🏳️‍🌈✊

[@blanketsquares7607]

I adore this movie because it's not just a history lesson on the gay movement in Britain but also on the miner's strike and the labour movement. There's a short documentary on KZbin about these people and events that they made at the time, it's called all out dancing in dulais.

[@sussex33]

I guess you didn’t get that the guy who kissed Mark and told him he was a beautiful man, said he was on a “farewell tour”. He was dying from AIDS:

[@mikejackson1870]

A friend recommended I watch this channel. I have now watched it and really enjoyed watching this viewer's reactions. Didn't catch his name but clearly a lovely, sincere guy.

[@lisannebaumholz5028]

This is a great movie, on so many levels... thanks for reacting to it!

[@Gill3D]

SSR, your comments at the end of the film moved me so deeply. Know you are not alone in your hesitations. I should imagine most of us on the LGBT+ spectrum can relate to your misgivings. No course through the turbulent currents of our lifestyles has ever been charted. No universal solution has ever been plotted. All you can do is try to live your best life, knowing that it will be an adventure you'll be able to share with some but not with others. Sometimes that will be painful but mostly it will be joyous. Bon voyage!

[@SmallScreenReactions]

❤️❤️❤️

[@Raskolnikov32]

I'm from this area. It didn't go back to how it was before. Industries closed, the Valleys were filled (and still are filled) with ghost towns. High unemployment meant a rise in crime, and generations grew up without hope, ambition or aspirations; nihilistic degeneracy became the norm, because sod it all. Socialism and Christianity once united a people in their shared struggles, but now people teeter on the brink of fascism. Also, this film does a bit of a disservice to the Welsh people in the town. The folks involved in the leadership of the movement had far left views, they'd been involved with 'Ban the Bomb' protests, not exactly the type of people to be shocked by the existence of gay people.

[@lauradawson7964]

Wonderful movie. Happy pride! So happy to have found my community.

[@agenttheater5]

1:16:01 And last I checked in 2024 he's still alive.

[@jacquie2004]

Nothing was like it was before the miners strike. Families, communities were torn apart by it, and the pits were closed down anyway.

[@supuchan]

I love this movie so much! Great reaction

[@StephenHitchens]

I always ugly cry watching this movie

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

And happy pride!!

[@brasschick4214]

Pretty much every character except Bromley were real people. The 1980s was a very different time- ingrained prejudice, scary time with the emergence of AIDS, rather like Covid. Also the miner’s strike and riots in working class areas were happening in Britain- Murdoch press (same owner as FOX) were Margaret Thatcher’s attack dog along with all the others. There is another British movie - Brassed Off! The movie is based on a real Colliery band and it’s mine during the miner’s strike. Stars Ewan McGregor.

[@RCanadian]

This is loosely based on the support of Wales Miners by the LGB community kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnXFZ2dpdt2Inqc. In the UK the legal age to be gay is 21 and this is occurring during the AIDS crisis.

[@johnd6487]

what you've said is largely correct, but i feel it necessary to point out that the age of consent *was* 21, in the 1980's and early 90's, at the time this was set. It was finally reduced to 18 (the year i turned 21, thanks UK government!) and is now actually 16 for all (16 is only the age you can consent to sex, I hasten to add...).

[@chevychase]

The movie itself is too tiny to see it. And with that big heart on top of it, it's hopeless. You should be in a tiny box in the corner, and the movie should fill up the rest of the screen.

[@sussex33]

You talk too much lol. Gethin told Sian that Jonathan was positive but you were yapping 😂

[@silentminority2342]

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