Hard as Hell 2 Gun - Introduction & Stage 1

InRangeTV attended the first ever Hard as Hell 2 gun at the Southern Utah Practical Shooting range recently and we recorded this important event in the growth of 2 gun as a venue. This is the same facility and staff that brought us the first Rifle Dynamics Red Oktober AK match in 2016.
This first HaH 2 gun was a success and plans are already afoot for 2018 with lessons learned from this first effort. 2 gun isn't 3 gun and the demographics are the same but also different.
We have content regarding each and every stage, 1 through 9, as well as some conclusions at the end about the match and the gear.
We hope you enjoy this series and find it entertaining as well as educational.
Each stage had a sci-fi theme to throw a little fun into the mix. Our first stage, this one, was by far the most physically challenging one of the entire event!
Stage 1:
Icon of Sin
You’ve driven back the hordes of hell that arrived through the portal on earth. It is time to confront the ultimate evil and close the portal for good. You must retrieve ammo from the respawn point when empty. Engage the Icon of Sin from the platform (steel), then eliminate the demons and imps (paper).
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[@DMStraylight]

It's not a stretch to say the WWSD project is the coolest thing InRange has ever done, and actually seeing the proof of concept in a match as brutal as this seals the deal, I think, that you guys are on-point with your theories about, well, what Stoner would do. You're making me want to build an AR, and I don't have the money for that. Dammit. Cars are overrated, right..?

[@jameshealy4594]

Cars are really useful and cool, but they're money pits on a whole different order to guns. I'm not saying don't have a nice car, but consider how much you're actually putting into it, and what it will likely be worth at the end. That said, I think if you're just needing to buy one for basic transport then the AR can wait.

[@HolweckStage89]

It's part of what made me build one myself, you can do it a lot cheaper than you think and it'll end up being exactly the way you like it.. you can save a butt load buying it piece by piece during certain sales (keep an eye on slickguns), particularly for bits like stripped lowers and uppers. You won't regret it!

[@possiblycrazy442]

Cars as a hobby, specifically hot-rodding them, has left me with a total numbness to seeing anything "expensive" in the gun hobby short of buying a light machine gun. I have spent a disturbing amount of money on my car which, though cool, is no faster than an '05 Mustang GT. I could have instead built the exotic rifle of my dreams with all gunsmithing/machining and legal costs included, and probably would still have enough left over for a nice handgun and a simple shotgun project.

[@thesoggycheeseburgerincide7401]

I've come to the conclusion that Ian is part squirrel.

[@nicholascunningham3927]

Half man, half bear, half pig.

[@ldobehardcore]

As a big ol' fatty boombaladdy who watches graceful people do their thing, I'm astounded at how the culvert doesn't even slow Ian down. They might as well have just let him run straight back to the table with his pistol and ammo.

[@dnbuk3111]

The Soggy Cheeseburger Incident lol agreed

[@Shanezkool]

Squirrel!

[@FirstDagger]

I love the conclusion part of these vids, certainly would not be as good without it.

[@fakemail4suckers]

Agreed. The breakdown of how their gear preformed for them, and the concept/ideas behind their set up is interesting.

[@jonathanhartley7028]

I have to compliment Karl on his clever mic positioning. Using your right sleeve to get the best of one mic. I believe it was the introduction of the WWSD project where you had the mic clipped onto a tree branch between you guys. Keep it up!

[@survivalcomms]

That stage was no joke. Lots of dots to connect. You guys really did great . I cannot wait to see the rest of the match.

[@HuckOrris]

I got a good laugh every time Karl bumped his head on the plastic pipe.

[@InrangeTv]

Bonk.

[@ALRinaldi]

That is impressive... Wow! Also, buckle your helmet, Ian! :D

[@IRMentat]

chin straps are there for a reason :)

[@philips.5563]

Somebody played DooM, I see.

[@Mewyabby]

Doom 2, dear. Icon of Sin was John Romero's head in the wall.

[@TheBitwise]

Thankfully, a rocket launcher was not required for the HaH version.

[@derekdziobek5998]

Your guts are huge! You must have huge guts!

[@HaqqAttak]

Round targets should have been pinkies.

[@HaloFTW55]

Knee deep in the dead.

[@HarrysHolsters]

Ian should be named the Jackrabbit! Man can he move!

[@BACCHUS777]

Complex cognitive tasks under hard physical duress is damn hard! Your rifle theory and training have really paid dividends in this event.

[@sammojave5285]

I'm impressed that you both finished under par. This stage just about made me want to take up golf. It really threw me off kilter on the next stage or two.

[@triksixer749]

Just commenting to help support. Keep it up!

[@nikku13]

Great video & thanks for all the hard work getting it to us. Cheers!

[@kenhelmers2603]

Great series of videos! Thanks guys

[@annairinastoll2960]

This looks really fun! Nice Video!

[@ieatkittenswspicymustard5089]

It sounds like the door kicker carbine could be an AR version of Coopers scout rifle.

[@ilovethatkatielovesclassic8771]

dying for more WWSD gun vids

[@mreditor321]

"Oremor nhoj em llik tsum uoy emag eht niw ot"

[@wadekirby8575]

Karl, can you hear your break making that tuning fork sound when shooting?

[@InrangeTv]

Yeah. The production version of the same flash hider fixed that problem, if you consider it a problem. It doesn't bother me.

[@DRay-or4tc]

Biggest hurdle for me would be remembering what order the shooting is in. Confusing as Hell.

[@WolfMother603]

Ian, it's so weird to see you using a 'normal' 'mainstream' pistol.

[@SuperiorAutocraft]

To win the game, you must kill me, John Romero.

[@SinistralRifleman]

The stage really isn't as complicated as people here seem to think. Here's my run: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGq3ipaja7WBnaM

[@desroin]

This shit should be olympic o_o

[@Kyks2244]

i feel this would be alot less confusing whit black out fence/walls. like this from the camera perspective its really confusing

[@chadpunte1731]

WELL, WELL, WELL, LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE THINKS THEY'RE JOHN WAYNE! In all seriousness that range looks incredibly frustrating.

[@CobraMustang]

I find it totally unacceptable to make course that confusing on where to go.

[@lukejolley8354]

The timers giving bad info

[@onoes9646]

It's a shame that there isn't some way to securely fasten that helmet to the wearer's head.

[@jamesjones2002]

O NOES hes just doing it john wayne style lol

[@plastic14407]

I can't be the only one who just gets super confused when they explain the rules for these stages. I can't imagine how they remember all that shit while under pressure

[@Str4ng3F0lk]

They dont really - notice they guy talking them through it

[@kyleleeson4498]

Bless the RSO

[@proteus2103]

icon of sin like in doom? that points in my book

[@InrangeTv]

Yes. ~Karl

[@fakemail4suckers]

"To win the game you must kill me, John Romero"

[@MrMorganQuinn]

This reminds me of some infantry school drills, where trigger and safety discipline is really important. You've got a range officer in close proximity, it's high stress, muzzle discipline is essential. This looks like good training, and good fun.

[@Menhadien]

Y'all should do some "What Would Kalashnikov Do?" AKs.... No idea how or why, but it'd be cool.

[@thespartanmk1]

Hmm. You would probably just have an AK.

[@krakendeamon]

No, you'd have a lawnmower.

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

krakendeamon Or a tractor.

[@SpaceGhost1984]

Find some other German engineer to design the rifle and take credit?

[@PaulMauser]

Menhadien Don't you mean just the AK-12? He didn't die that long ago.

[@alexdemoya2119]

Ian is Rusty Shackleford, SQUIRREL TACTICS!

[@SgtKOnyx]

"I'm not saying I'm great, I'm not". Your humbleness is noticed Karl. But we know the truth.

[@gretah3969]

I'm loving 2 gun. When I first heard of 3 gun, I was like cool, a practical modern "combat simulation" competition. Then I looked in to it and was like fuuuu.... another sporty shooting sport competition. Nothing wrong with sporty competitions, I'd like to get into them myself for fun, but as something billed as a "practical" competition, well it seems like BS. Then watching Forgotten Weapons, I learn of 2 gun, a more practically focused competition. Too bad it seems like it's focused in the Southwest, unlike 3 gun which is nationwide now. Still a little sporty (I think that is necessitated by the range safety, the military has a lot less liability when it comes to training range design). I like the idea of trooper, as a former Marine I live by the maxim "train as you fight", I'd love to see dynamic targets included in 2 gun (they're becoming cheap enough for not just military or law enforcement to purchase), and maybe even multi shooter stages.

[@drmaudio]

Stoner would taste blood and victory! Classic! I could never get through that with all the paper clean. Some would be shot six times, and some not at all. On the other hand, the fact that misses cause pain would lend to the "Make every shot count" mentality I can't seem to shake.

[@josiahgibson6373]

That helmet flip at 11:05 was pretty interesting to watch in split screen.

[@Theoarma]

Don't let sgt. maj Sixta catch you without your strap on... that hemlet isn't yours to lose!

[@tsuhobbs]

Sweet, I picked up a Larue PredatAR 556 and is a 1:8 twist. Wasn't sure if 1:7 was better. I vaguely have an idea of what is better and why after a lot of reading. Can't wait to see that video. You guys have the best content on KZbin by the way.

[@InrangeTv]

1:7 and 1:8 are essentially interchangeable for *most* shooters. I woudn't fret about it. ~Karl

[@JonathanChappell]

I had trouble understanding this stage as a spectator, never mind trying to shoot it on the clock.

[@snipermakedonski]

I am loving this content. I cant wait for more. Very impressive you both came in top 5 of the stage!

[@atilliar]

BLOOD and VICTORY!!!!

[@againstthemodernworld3253]

Went out"Tasting blood and victory..." Damn, I need that on my tombstone.

[@sinkrust1]

Wait, your RED laser is visible at 250 yards in broad daylight?!?! Wow! This reminds me a little bit of an Olympic bi-athalon. It's one thing to shoot straight; it's quite another to shoot accurately in the middle of an athletic event. Nicely done fellas!

[@tropixMw2]

It was a joke

[@InrangeTv]

No, that red laser is useless in daylight. I was just kidding. :) ~Karl

[@icepoof]

Texas Run and Gun is a similar difficulty. 6 miles total run/walk distance. Shooters carry everything needed for the day. Some really difficult rifle targets.

[@johnfloyd8199]

OPEN?! REALLY IAN?! nah just kidding why is there a stigma with that anyway?

[@The_New_IKB]

carl, would you consider putting the hide site that you reviewed on the door kicker carbine?

[@InrangeTv]

+The_New_IKB 4472 That certainly would be applicable to this rifle. ~Karl

[@The_New_IKB]

I think that there is a equivalent device for pistols

[@Hawaii_NoKaOi]

This stage should be called STUPID AS HELL !

[@Jesses001]

Damn. Well it is not called Hard as Hell for nothing. The biggest issue I see is after a TON of running and jumping around, you then have to remember what you have shot and where you are in the stage, while also concentrating on marksmanship. Hey, good training though. If you can keep your brain running on all cylinders during all of that, you are golden. Icon of Sin...did someone model this after the last stage in that video game I played back in the early 90s? It is kind of similar actually, only with a rifle instead of a rocket launcher.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

I'm tired just watching Ian! LOL!!! -Jen

[@nates9536]

4:05 Inconspicuous wooden block is inconspicuous

[@DrEisenhower]

TIL, Karl only needs about two-fiddy.

[@falutinfree1101]

I wonder if the Sony style action cameras would be better since they can be mouted on the rails on the side of the helmet above the ears. It wouldn't get bumped and catch on stuff like the top mounted camera seems to.

[@ArgonZavious]

What would the downsides of a wrist mounted camera for recording?

[@tangero3462]

Can you guys do a brief talk about the 75 grain ammo you're using? There really isn't much out there on it. I like the idea of the stuff but would like a little more info about it before I commit to buying a case of it

[@Tobascodagama]

Yikes. This stage must be almost as hard on the scorekeepers as the shooters.

[@MrGad1]

jesus could walk on water gun jesus can float up stairs

[@siestatime4638]

Brutal. And it's just the first stage...

[@Rupan-rx]

Fasten that chin strap John Wayne! Awesome video guys!

[@Dreska_]

Helmet isn't much good if its not on your head

[@Jazzman-bj9fq]

Hard as hell to comprehend the course of fire 😕

[@jaychen887]

Lol that flash hider ringing like a tuning fork.

[@lajemac]

Ian almost called the stage stupid LOL

[@grren1782]

Icon of sin, now that's a reference a lot of people won't get

[@tacticool_weeb8450]

Wish this would come to Florida

[@dougdukes1039]

would be interested in hearing about your belts and how they are configured.

[@tylershaffer4487]

my knees watched this and said fuck that

[@FFFF-x9i]

Holosun… trash.

[@krazylarry]

What movie is icon of evil from?

[@Bwukki]

Holy shit that stage looked hard as hell

[@garyjohns4711]

do you the have 180 rule?

[@GreenDayFanMT]

so vr like this videos... I like it

[@somedude3766]

Wow HAH indeed!!!

[@gnarshread]

I would be sooooo lost.

[@haydnjenkins7607]

As a Spinal Injured exshooter I love watching the videos, but I couldn't do the running anymore.

[@jumperharz6270]

Just literally saw it beeing uploaded. Wanted to put down my phone and start working again. Quess i can stretch my break a little for this!

[@MegaBeartrap]

They need a VR mod for Onward for these stages. Ian's acquisition time past 100 yards though :S.

[@jakejerome4936]

This WWSD project is honestly one of THE most entertaining series on KZbin right now! It has made me completely reconsider what I would build as a "tactical" rifle. It is a complete paradigm shift for me. Thank you for everything y'all do for the firearms community!

[@shocktroop0351]

Excellent work gentlemen. I'm glad to see your hard work paying off so well. I believe I overheard on the arms room that you guys have these rifles shooting the 77 grain SMK, at what distance did you zero your optics? Also, do you feel that the better ballistics of that bullet versus a 55 grain FMJ-BT were a definitive factor in your success, or do you feel you could have achieved similar results with the 55s? Thanks!

[@WellDressedCaveman]

Good work

[@TheJakal87]

@11:06, all I hear is SgtMaj Sixta from Generation Kill screaming about losing helmets

[@troy9477]

Wow. I would be huffing and puffing like crazy. The rifle steel would be challenging with that crosswind. We'll see how the other stages are. I'm just starting the series

[@caninedrill_instructor5861]

Mr. McCollum, Mr. Kasarda, I really like the individual stage video series.

[@tsuhobbs]

What twist are yalls barrels? 1:7 or 1:8?

[@InrangeTv]

1:8. We have videos specifically about the barrels coming. ~Karl

[@althill7407]

That stage seemed a little too unclear to be fun. But the concept of challenging mind and body seemed to be the goal, and you guys kicked ass. Cool stuff

[@IRMentat]

looks like they need to colour code the shooting points with the targets you need to aim at. paint the head green foe 1st corner, red, blue, pink, yellow, etc. otherwise looks like an interesting course, moving down a ladder with a loaded rifle does not look particularly safe either. Sounds like the rifle point needs some shoring up for a steadier aim.

[@MrMorganQuinn]

I would love to do this with my AMD-65 and Tokarev.

[@Erikreaver]

Loving this! I'm really looking forward to more. It's nice seeing all of agility, endurance, presence of mind and shooting skill in these matches. I hope strength gets thrown in to the mix as well.

[@brandonmaples]

I don't know how u guys remember all that crap with those stages😂

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

This really sounds like the shooting match version of an Iron Man triathalon.Holy hell this looks hard.

[@engar-dug5197]

You both did so well on the pistol after all that running! All that practical experience on 2 gun is showing.

[@chrislowes1335]

Big up to the RO for telling the shooter which targets that they still had to shoot and which they had already engaged.

[@sanjosesharkrock]

Icon of sin reminds me of VIOS from DoomRPG2

[@skinywtboy]

buckle that chin strap John Wayne

[@Funhog29]

Ian, helmets have chinstraps for a reason. :)

[@MrSmith336]

3rd in one class and 4th in another, granted it is the first day but still a great showing. That stage was intense. Eugene is happy.

[@glennpettersson9002]

Nice to see you two gun slingers really challenged.🖖

[@a.c.m.4548]

I would take a penalty to not have to go first on this stage just so I could see someone else do it first.

[@lim3lif3]

Is that an Arizona patch I see?

[@InrangeTv]

Yep.