How to Do The Muay Thai Clinch

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[@hard2hurt]

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[@davidguymon1673]

Not to be confused with the Taco Bell butt clench.

[@SenseiSeth]

Woah late night release for Icicle Michael

[@rudramajumder1949]

IcyMikesicle

[@saure22]

What does that make you then Seth?

[@redmetalpanda9051]

That's right, Sensei SethGodOfWarAndChaos

[@simonrn8311]

Clearly Icicle Mikesicle

[@MrJustinpatrick16]

RIGHT !! 😂 HE NEVER DOSE LATE NIGHT POSTS

[@hard2hurt]

At 6:30 Natalia expertly saves you from a long tangent!

[@DaveElwoodCutter]

Great video and very detailed. As a side note/anecdote: I found the open hands not to be as common as some "muay thai nerds" may wanna make us believe. It's often taught like that especially in the west (and probably the most common one in the west like you said) but most Thais I've seen and trained with will immediately go for a gable grip or another hand lock once they get both arms on the inside. Back during the golden age the open hands were more common as clinch was generally more of a flow while exchanging knees and elbows. Nowadays they lock up pretty quickly and refs separate fighters much quicker as well.

[@suhribzevolution645]

Thank you from Thailand 🇹🇭🙏

[@whorton1978]

Can confirm. Just started muay thai and by the second class we were doing double collar drills. It is *extremely* hard to come up with a plan when you're staring at somebody's t-shirt while you're getting shaken around and kneed in the liver.

[@alias0449]

Instructions unclear; my neck is broken from clinching

[@hard2hurt]

That was fast...

[@Elliot882]

@@hard2hurtwhen you post a video they start practicing mike.

[@denisl2760]

well, it could've been worse

[@MyZ001]

How did you break your own neck while applying the clinch😆

[@Joe_C.]

I've several times found myself inadvertently doing the muay Thai clinch on the drive home from eating some Pad Thai at 'questionable' restaurants

[@amrey3628]

Awesome demonstration. Funny this notification got my eye when it did. I've been studying, practicing, training with Muy Thai ever since I found your channel a couple years ago. It sounds corny but you did motivate me to want to learn practical self defense. And, yeah that clinch is a headache and a half it somebody gets it on you lol. Congrats on the channel being so successful and all the work you do. Major respect and best wishes to you.

[@DoodlesBee]

I agree

[@hard2hurt]

Pretty ballsy move.

[@Dbdilly]

Grabbing testicles is the best escape from this 😂

[@cainabel2009]

lol, grab anyone testicles and you can bring the biggest guy to their knees unless you one off those guys who can take a kick to the nuts. There was a KZbin video I saw were a guy had taken hundred of kicks to the nuts he had developed a nutsack that was incredible strong. The sack was so strong he could taken a kick from a 6 ft 5 man who was 300 pounds. Here is the video if you want to watch it just past it on youtube "World Record Kick to the Groin [Documentary]" With this guy grabbing his testicles won't do any good since he can literally take a kick.

[@josecano326]

I can see you know a lot about grabbing testicles

[@billyg.personaltraining]

Video requests Overhand right Sprawls Solo room clearing What it was like sparring Sanchai

[@isaacvalentin4786]

Wrist watch to elbow, lift from there with the wrist, go the direction they take you and change levels then either shove or strike depending on the distance they create by attempting to counter! 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@fetube7750]

the look on her face when mike casual says: "we try to seperate their head from their body"

[@rockmanxja]

Good explanations that all the clinching positions are good as long as they apply enough control to the opponent. One thing I want to point out though, the control is not by applying force through squeezing. The clinch is to break the opponent's structure with your structure enough that you can manipulate it. The control should be established by having a good body structure not muscles. Once good control is established, manipulation of the opponent's body is through projecting power through the grapple (again with structure and gravity not muscles) and moving your entire body. Once the proper clinch is established If the opponent doesn't have 100 lbs over you, he or she should feel like a rag doll every single time, because his or her structure is broken, so no power can be used. This is how golden age muay thai fighters could clinch and tossed much bigger people like it was nothing.

[@gw1357]

Someone once explained to me that it's called the "plum" because you're holding the guy's head in front of your face the way a monkey holds a plum when he eats it. Elbows bent and down, two hands on the plum, close to your face, etc. Protecting the plum so another monkey doesn't take it. I have no idea if that is remotely accurate, but I thought it at least made some intuitive sense.

[@someirishkid9241]

I don't remember where I saw this, and I haven't been able to find anyone talking about it, but I was under the impression that it's not actually the English word 'plum' at all, it's a Thai word that's pronounced more like the English 'plume'. Idk what it actually means, though.

[@jackstretch-jones1430]

@Natalia, Try gripping the skin of the under arm with the thumb an 2nd knuckle of 1st finger

[@eliotquintana9802]

Icy show muay thai techniques grabs

[@suhribzevolution645]

Wow kru muay Falang Sawaddee kab kru 🙏🙏🇹🇭🇹🇭

[@thagrifster594]

Why did this video take so long. Great info.

[@Rai3]

I think of this position like mount in jits. Not even the best clinch position, like how back mount is better, and a lot of grapplers feel better in top side control than mount.

[@kevinmurphy5878]

Based

[@texanborn7747]

Towards the end of the video you ended up kneeing while in the clinch…when you said not to. I think it’s useful

[@hard2hurt]

You're confused.

[@texanborn7747]

@@hard2hurtI was, my bad. My A.D.D. Got caught in the window of not paying attention. Sorry Sir.

[@g8trg8tr30]

Mike, as a shorter dude, don’t you prefer the top of the head underneath pressed against their jaw/face then gable grip to close it clinch? Equally as hard to escape from, less effort to get, easier to make and take space with the hips AND it turns their head sideways so they don’t have access to much of their strength anymore PLUS they literally cannot move up or down. I don’t like this one pulling people down to that finishing posture is hard+they have access to my lower back and legs with their arms. The only downside is it fucking hurts on your training partner. Am I just too stupid or am I onto something here?

[@gotredeemed]

That's not a Beacon, it's a heliport. Thanks.

[@simonbut8062]

“You motor boating SOB” lol

[@ThePaper1]

Mike! You never get someone in a clinch after they laid their edges. That's just disrespectful 😥

[@G17-k6f]

Have you seen the keychain extension whip? You need to do a breakdown of that. Thats right up your alley.

[@crossfitmolokai]

"Plaam" is the Thai word for wrestling...

[@megamanx766]

Anderson Silva annihilated Rich Franklin with this technique.

[@atomicalien4]

THE SKULLDASAC XD

[@andrewcain6518]

She should just go to the body.😂

[@pubjitsuguy8596]

Triangle - she needs to press her head into your chest and double leg u pushing forward fast and hard before you can turn her. Don’t you think thats a really dangerous street move? Maybe ok if just trying to control but not hurt a drunk

[@pubjitsuguy8596]

The triangle of head on chest two hands behind legs. Three control points I mean sorry

[@Rai3]

Could work if they suck. But the forearm frame on their collar is a line of defense in wrestling. You’ll see that with wrestling collar ties. So they have to clear that in order to shoot. That frame should be active and your hips should be back, but if you suck they can do a lot of shit to you. They could even just pry your face away if you suck.

[@jmw611]

👍correct technique on youtube???? NOOO WAAAY!

[@KyeCreates]

The best clinch is the hug my parents give me before i go outside. Its inescapable 😂

[@Mattseak]

Can they throw knees from that position though?

[@KyeCreates]

@@Mattseak Probably 😂

[@Mattseak]

😂@@KyeCreates

[@Joru0906]

I miss seeing Jay, where is the big guy?

[@thepants1450]

Seth ate him

[@Alekth85]

He got tired of being pepper sprayed and beat up with a wip.

[@daniellanczi-wilson9549]

"Apex of the skull du sac" is possibly my favourite Icy Mike line ever! As a fellow baldy, I'm definitely stealing that one.

[@atomicalien4]

''we look like nasty dirt asses'' was a close 2nd.

[@SUP3RM4N_73]

"You can be learning this while we're doing this." 💯 TELL 'EM, COACH! 🤣

[@gw1357]

Great stuff. Finding someone who likes to clinch to practice with is key. Then you can work on snaking between different clinch positions so that you're always one step ahead of the captured.

[@_NguyenMinh967]

hey mike can you do a video about the monkey fist or the watch dogs2 thunder ball

[@jacobstewart2235]

You mentioned how to use this clinch in breifly another video a long time ago, and it really helped me get a lot better in this position. I'm glad to see it covered in more detail.

[@cerberuscombatmma]

I like this channel, but Mike literally said never do a neck tie. 😂😂😂 A neck tie is one of the best clinches (Interlocking the fingers).

[@hardcorecampinggear]

Seems like she'd have some pretty knarly rib shots, no?

[@tpolo2050]

Not if he’s keeping u off balance by turning u…then he’ll be shooting knees so more than likely ur hands will be occupied trying to block and eventually u will get swept from clinch

[@denisl2760]

She could punch, but if you're trading punches for knees its a losing battle.

[@IHateHandleNames]

Good details, as always. And getting snatched around like that is brutal in a long fight. It will wear someone out. Even without the knees, just jarring someone like that will take a little bit out of their neck and upper back after a while.

[@BMO_Creative]

Yeah man! a Muay Thai clinch is any clinch while doing Muay Thai! LOL

[@Sprite7778iron]

Mike do you think thai clinch is good for self-defence?

[@lucasfelipe-ze5sy]

In my opinion, it is awesome, but you should have some grappling skill just in case the other person knows grappling

[@ahmedalp3531]

Learn bjj. Muay thai techniques are good for it but clinch is not

[@ancientdarkness3102]

​@@ahmedalp3531it is, Its very effective if the opponent aint a greco Roman or a freestyle wrestler or a judoka or a grappler. But against most strikers and oc untrained people it works just fine

[@lucasfelipe-ze5sy]

@@ahmedalp3531 The "Muay Thai clinch" was used successfully many times in UFC against excellent jiu jitsu guys. Anderson Silva is the best example

[@rudramajumder1949]

Agreed

[@MFL11111]

Your feet need to be squared

[@jolier1313]

How do we get into and out of the clinch now?

[@perceptioninception2739]

W

[@hard2hurt]

Maybe.

[@brownsey1]

Funnily enough, my instant reaction was, that is a muay thai clinch, wtf!!! But then, yeah, took a split second to think, and you're right. The "traditional" idea of a muay thai clinch is rarely utilised by pros. You see the back of the neck clinch in amateur fights a lot, and it usually descends into a sh*t show, but the pros control the arms through underhooks and overhooks etc., to land knees.

[@4xdblack]

You don't want to ruffle too many feathers in one video? That's a lie...

[@official_liberal_chungus7825]

Hey mike can you do a how to do saenchai's cartwheel kick he does

[@noahlinhart1344]

Just curious: Where'd Jay go?

[@Jay-ho9io]

Dude this is disrespectful. You can't put "skull de sac" *and* "angle of moment" in the same video. I'm trapped between which deserves the most recognition.

[@atomicalien4]

i enjoyed ''dirt asses''

[@u45.-]

I've been waiting for no nonsense detail oriented clinch video like this for a while to complement my judo ashiwaza (foot trips) game as and potentially set up even a throw. The reason is because I'd love to incorporate knees and elbows in tty o my no gi judo and to be able to make this a really it need the kasushi (off balance) ! Thanks icy m.. .

[@NemanjaNislija]

Check out Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu - just search her channel for "clinch". She's a professional fighter living and fighting in Thailand for like a decade now, training with a host of Golden Era greats. There's an hour-long video on clinch, which is also her specialty as a knee fighter.

[@Squisky]

Oh Spiciest of the Iciest Mikes; please bring back the podcast my liege.

[@9lomas]

Agreed

[@briane9238]

Good stuff. I am decent at clinch and Dieselnoi helped me too. I thought you might miss something, but I have nothing to add.

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

You studied under Dieselnoi? Lucky you.

[@briane9238]

@@CyclingMartialartswithMusic Just a bit and to hang out. Also Petchboonchu for clinch. I’ll be back to see those guys soon…it’s more just for fun and to hang now than hard training.

[@CyclingMartialartswithMusic]

@@briane9238 i envy you. Those are my heroes. Dieselnoi, Petchboonchu, Yodkhunpon, Yodwicha and Thanadet. Clinch Masters. Haha. I know Im being too much here.

[@briane9238]

@@CyclingMartialartswithMusic I know Yodkhunpon too. He is super fun to train with. Me and my buddy trained with him and he was always smiling and laughing. And he didn’t mind getting taken down…we were all playing like kids. The legends are all really cool.

[@wgnwBash]

Very uncomfortable to watch. Feel like I know what she was thinking

[@swerv8809]

4:29 she saw her maker

[@turboblenderofficial4684]

watch Joe Moncayo vs Dieselnoi to find how devastating the double collar is

[@videogamesprod373]

Corny bro, you do better by yourself in the videos

[@june2friday]

Wow

[@BoSijuwade]

I only watch the videos she’s in. She’s so beautiful to me

[@tbone6203]

Was talkin to my bro who was a co at a fed pen- he said same shit u showed - i asked him did they teach u that shit he said he watched the og old dogs on the yard- martial arts training no - prison fig it out quick n fast no yt no training just shit that works

[@kenmercer8112]

Is muay how you spell moi thai?? lol

[@aranhamacaco9425]

Smh

[@John.Doe-OG]

Mike, you need to get some color on those ghastly legs. They are neon white.

[@JasonLaveKnotts]

No.

[@heartofsteel8808]

How to get out of it , please

[@Jedi_Jed]

Would you advise to not do this outside of sport? It seems high risk because it occupies both your hands and the opponent has full access to the belt line with both hands. Sorry I tend to be knife centric

[@Alekth85]

Once youre in the clinch you dont just stand there. The knees work and elbows work too, as well as trips. Muay thai fighters are more dangerous in the clinch then on the outside. You do not want to get full power knee into your ribcage. Its game over.

[@cantap9566]

❤🙏👍

[@RiccardoThai]

Nn è che sia un gran lavoro per un video così lungo..cose che si spigano e si dimostrano in 5 minuti

[@alexanderren1097]

Mike I know Karate Kata isn’t really your thing but I find it to be great timing that you made this video while I’ve been researching the real applications for the kata I started learning 20 tears ago. Turns out that Tekki Shodan (Naihanchi Shodan in some styles) is all about clinch fighting and the very opening move represents getting this exact clinch. The kata also has the under hook “Muay Thai” clinch too. Thanks!

[@wearedisturbed]

Tekki shodan is never used in shotokan in kumite tho.

[@alexanderren1097]

@@wearedisturbed Yes I’m aware. That’s why I’m no longer a member of any Shotokan organization. Most modern karate styles don’t understand the movements in kata nor do they apply anything in a practical way. That’s why I’ve been looking at Patrick McCarthy, Iain Abernathy, and others’ videos and other content on practical karate applications

[@NickPilmeyer]

"Skull-de-sac" 🤣

[@victorhesseling1520]

Great video. Nice and clearly explainend. Can’t wait for the next one to come out. Greetings from the netherlands

[@denizwieteck]

it's called Muay Plum /Plam because that's how the Thais call it, Plum means wrestling/ pummeling ... all gribs u showed are part of Muay Plam, best advice was don't lean your head towards your opponent, always head up, shoulders back, knees slightly bend, legs parallel and on the balls of your foot, the double collar tie is the best position you could get but a skilled fighter won't allow u to get it, in my opinion best hand position is grabbing my wrist and my thumb of the other hand on the back of ya head, my head under the chin, strong arm pulling down with forearm on your shoulder or let's say between shoulder and brest, palm facing towards me that's very important, also it's very important to grab the back of the head not neck if you do it with both hands, with one you grab the neck on the opposite side for example using left hand your fingers are on the ride side the other hand is controlling the left arm of the opponent... love your content Mike keep it up... greets from Germany (+20 years in Muay Thai) 😁✌🏼🙏🏼

[@babybopkidsrock5713]

Just walk around with a fly in your hair.....

[@humptydumty6629]

He is literally Saul Goodman 😂

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I think mike should probably have someone else to show the clinch escape. Lol.

[@EggShen905]

She puts one hand under her own face and grabs over your bicep from the inside, then repeats on the other side. She then uses this brace the push up on her own forehead and force your grip open, or stop you from pushing down.

[@rabidrjmma1211]

Stood up and danced for joy seeing this in my recommended

[@dirtpoorchris]

The way ur doing it looks more like a heads wrench and twisting the head might be fatty illegal in most sports. You can face check and choke but I don't think you can wrench the neck.

[@AntonioNoll-lw2rg]

Hey I think they should change it to for the white belt get not give away of the sparring aspect but make it farther away like put them under the lemon tree basically you know when everybody's Barney they're the learning how to use the move on a training partner but also the train far is not going to 100 and 85 mi an hour is just going five of his BJJ baby the instructor if he has like five new students than five or on a tree and as he gets more and more students you know when I'm on the living tree and then a year down the line or two years down the line the test for the blue belt by then they're already know every position in Jiu-Jitsu and they should be able to defend a blue belt or a purple

[@hb9145]

Eight years of Muay Thai here: I don't mean to be rude, but you are not doing it completely right. 1. Lock four fingers to your open hand as close to the thumb on as you can. 2. Don't grab the neck; grab the top back of the head. You'll need much less leverage to control your opponent. 3. Rest your elbows on the collar bones 4. Squeeze your elbows tightly together 5. Always keep your opponent off balance (twist, turn, bend to avoid counters) and land knees To get out of the clinch: 1. Never ever try to duck out of it. You'll duck into a knee. 2. Straighten your back and keep your hips close to his. Never give him distance to land a knee. 3. Open your hand, lay it across your opponent's eyes to take away his vision. Just give him a good push with your open hand, and he will let go. 4. Give him a good teep or a flying knee once he lets go. Keep your hands up if you try the latter. Don't drop them on the way in.

[@ziphy_6471]

But he said most of those

[@hb9145]

@@ziphy_6471 Yes, it was OK, but not optimal. That is why I wrote it.

[@factsondeck1552]

I need a sparing partner like that 😂

[@gnarlywagner8171]

The full plume is a reference to plume (frill) of a tuxedo

[@chrisjordan6432]

small detail that im not sure actually makes a real difference. I was always taught to rotate my hands so that my fingers are pointing at my face.

[@neilturner3305]

Motorboat 😂😂😂

[@kevindiaz8583]

Can you make a how to counter knees and Muay Thai clinch video next !

[@hardydownunder]

Always love your content Icy Mike. tho where is Cliff? miss his scary smile haha

[@MB-wp2px]

When you close the lid and your opponent is trying to escape, it's a great opportunity to compliment them on their shampoo.

[@4-a-e]

Stupid question how do know if you're the winner of the rev gear gift card?

[@dannydagerous]

hi mike

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

You should do a video exploring the benefits of kneeing an opponent in the head vs to the body. And id also mention the head position being important, so your opponent or training partner doesn't accidently headbutt you in the face.

[@namphon]

Both points very valid and correct:)

[@alexbdagger]

I can't wait for the what to do with your hands video.

[@manuelzapata1192]

👍

[@I_Magni_I]

Ummm how would you defend a double or single leg take down ? In that position. I’ve never really tested that type of clinch . I guess you'd just try and sprawl but thay get a good head start if your not expecting it .

[@hard2hurt]

Same way I would defend if they did a backflip with me still holding on

[@I_Magni_I]

Yes belittle my simple question. You should thank me I’m giving you a video idea…..

[@atomicalien4]

what the fuck are u on about?

[@someirishkid9241]

​@@I_Magni_Iyeah, Mike has... Extremely low patience for 'what if they did this' questions, probably because they're so common and kind of rarely asked in good faith. Asking those kinds of questions in the comments of his videos is a pretty surefire way to get a dismissive answer. To actually answer your question, though, the answer is that the position itself should be a defence to the takedown. He mentioned that the clinch should be secure enough that they can't move their head up, left, right, or crucially, *down*. If your opponent can't get their shoulder to your hip, they won't be able to make a real, threatening takedown attempt.

[@andredubbs4854]

Please do a video on how to get to the clinch

[@hb9145]

Once you start seeing hooks, just grab them. ;)

[@malkomalkavian]

What do you do with your hands?

[@Rai3]

Work inside their arms.