Question for Viewers: Same side gang or opposite side gang?
@GourmetBurrito2 жыл бұрын
My coach definitely preferred same side. But I'm bad and my body does what it wants. If I can get a block, I'll take it
@ynghuch2 жыл бұрын
Yo Mike. You’re doing a lot of combat sports stuff lately. Can we get some self defence (no weapons) stuff and maybe some general fitness?
@Beeruswon2 жыл бұрын
I do opposite side but I do enjoy using same side when I know it's possible.
@awesomezombie45652 жыл бұрын
I have particular combos I like from both sides range definitely effects it though
@reidtaylor50192 жыл бұрын
Generally opposite. It depends on how I’m countering. If it’s a parry, I usually use same side, but opposite side for blocks.
@beelzebootthecanadiandevil96002 жыл бұрын
"He explains things in a way that even an idiot can understand, and that appeals to me." -Icy Mike
@JehuMartin2 жыл бұрын
“When I get a client who is struggling, like you are”… 😂
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
That hurt.
@MisterJayEm2 жыл бұрын
If you're not struggling, you're slacking.
@SunTzuMedia2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt nah man, respect to the grind, open mind, and willingness to always keep learning. Respect from Boston, Mike 🇺🇲👊🤙
@memebigboy69072 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt apparently it's not hard 2 hurt your feelings
@FrodeFalch2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt and coming from someone hard to hurt.. that make it even worse.
@metrolinamartialarts2 жыл бұрын
Jared is such a good coach. I picked up a lot of fun drills from this video that is Def going back to the lab.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
everytime i come back from him everyone is like "oh so we're boxers now?"
@kinauki52652 жыл бұрын
I don't leave the lab lol
@bladecommando2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being willing to be vulnerable. It makes the channel a thousand times better.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
i would very quickly run out of ideas if i relied solely on my expertise
@Rex-golf_player8102 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt lmao humble statement
@MisterJayEm2 жыл бұрын
"I don't prefer that." Such a gentleman!
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
he really takes it easy on me
@GourmetBurrito2 жыл бұрын
Dude seems like a great coach. Imma have to try that no-eyes exercise.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
he's the best
@EvolveNowYoga2 жыл бұрын
Love your chemistry. Jared seems lika a great teacher💪🏾
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
He is really good. He has put a lot of time and thought into each thing that he does.
@marcz29032 жыл бұрын
Same side has certain benefits. Specifically, their hand can't simultaneously be striking and defending, so they're open on the side they're striking with, so it makes sense to attack them where they're open. Also, since they just attacked, you're unlikely to get hit with a powerful counter to that side. However, countering from the opposite side means you can shift your weight and throw more of your body mass into the punch, so it'll be more powerful.
@MostlyPeacefulNinja Жыл бұрын
I like that idea of closing the eyes to internalize these blocks and counters. Nice! 🤔
@nathantheophilus48562 жыл бұрын
Congratz on 400k mike 💪💪💪💪
@Jamoni12 жыл бұрын
50/50. Depends on my balance, head movement, yada yada. It was great seeing both of you at hard ready. Great coaches with two very different styles.
@vicentealencar91322 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best discussions on martial arts I ve ever see
@stephenellis66012 жыл бұрын
Jared and his brother are amazing. I love their content/knowledge
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on how you have your upper body loaded up and which way you plan on going with your bodyweight and how the enemies punches are coming in. I usually prefer same side in quick responsive balance stance, or squared off balance stance with constant forward invasion cutting off their escape footwork and try to jam them up. Its super important to learn switch stance so you can invade and clam people up when they run.
@fujimartin11212 жыл бұрын
Great stuff..totally makes sense especially being of short stature. Video well done!!
@justinsnow39792 жыл бұрын
I’m an opposite hand guy, but I see the great value in doing same side now! Thanks for the great video!
@engredz2 жыл бұрын
Same side. Usually, they drop that arm after a connection that leaves the head open. But this video have some new insights
@granden20772 жыл бұрын
Yes. A bucket of knowledge. Excellent. Thank you.
@StonaPersona420 Жыл бұрын
I love same side counters simply because it makes fighting less stressful, you kinda get the info from your attacker when and where to hit. Makes thinking about defense less stressful too, atleast for me.
@WillytheAsian2 жыл бұрын
The way Mike responds to the body jab is actually similar to how MIkey Garcia tends to. The elbow parry(?) loads it up well into a left hook or a jab/left straight.
@mikelundun2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic coaching! So much to unpack here!
@hgv852 жыл бұрын
Love both of y’all’s work. It’s no surprise that you both looked like you had a lot of fun on this collab. Your knowledge, coaching skills, and complementary energy all make for a great dynamic. Hope to see more collabs with Jared in the future!
@DareBizarre2 жыл бұрын
Point is, opposite side could react faster. If you receive strong punch, you first need to absorb it, ready your arm and hit. But in the same motion, you could both absorb the hit and deliver it with opposite. Now, for sure, if you block with front, distance is further if you hit with back(unless if you are slugging in the infight). But def depends on the situation, i could see myself receiving fake jab, or weaker jab and doing gazelle with my front(and even that might be risky since it could be a trap for the opponent's cross).
@thatguygsanchez53182 жыл бұрын
I love the concept of range and catch counters. Good stuff. Yup and the sense of using your eyes or feeling.
@ahhhhh21752 жыл бұрын
Same side. Nice video helped me very much
@grailknight67942 жыл бұрын
He is a good coach, but also seems like a pretty chill dude.
@MarkBlairs-Stooge-Channel2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid guys! Thanks.
@kcwonder2 жыл бұрын
Great video! As a beginner boxer I learned a ton from this
@dynamic75 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you for sharing.
@mortalkomment80282 жыл бұрын
Fun and educational. Gotta love it!
@angeltower92 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about it cause I constantly train evasion over blocking but instinctually... I do prefer to counter off a block with the same side
@joeberger34412 жыл бұрын
First time i saw "reaction punches" was from an old Kenny Weldon video on KZbin 8 years ago. He was teaching same side back then as well.
@andrewtanczyk40092 жыл бұрын
Learning from a pro boxer? That’s awesome 👏🏼! Fantastic! Marvelous!
@rjreliv2 жыл бұрын
Love the detail! Wow!
@diligentsun11542 жыл бұрын
reminiscent of the Great Kenny Weldon! thanks for the discussion
@jonathancurbis81692 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!!! I follow him on Instagram and didn’t realize Mike knew him. I even tagged Mike in one of his posts!!!
@althill74072 жыл бұрын
Mike's over here trying to become a Jedi
@niekbinnekamp49882 жыл бұрын
same side because that's where the opening is. but sometimes it's hard to get enough power out of it. so we learn standard combos from a block or slip
@allenharrelliii74242 жыл бұрын
If your in a dutch style gym you will see same side, just like you are dutch blocking a kick. If your boxing you will see more opposite side rolling counters. In kick fighting the hook, kick or hook knee is a staple. If you roll to counter with the opposite side it becomes easy to rool into an incoming kick or knee
@9usuck02 жыл бұрын
There is a traditional practice in eastern arts called sticking. I usually close my eyes when doing that. Makes it way easier if I don't focus on what I see. Makes feeling way easier.
@jacquedegatineau90372 жыл бұрын
this was great fellas. thank you.
@johnl26482 жыл бұрын
Both! Ranged shots higher up for me it's easier to do opposite side, one side block or roll then other side strike. For body shots the elbow blocking to the ribs or abdomen in a way is like a chamber for a uppercut reply for me.
@jacobdehahn11632 жыл бұрын
I do same side most often but I do agree that you need both
@Laneganification2 жыл бұрын
I personally do opposite side in muay thai sparring. I think it's because I try to almost grab the back of my head (rather than keep the glove at my forehead) when blocking hooks to eliminate the gap that an ungloved fist could fit through and makes a solid "arm shield". As a result I find the same side punch is more difficult to throw compared to when I use a standard, touch-forehead high guard. When I do this more exaggerate block I tend to rotate a little so my guard/arm shield thing can cover both hooks and straight punches on the side I'm defending, which nicely loads up my other arm for the reaction punch. Blocking the way I do isn't really necessary since we train with boxing gloves, but a good habit for self defense. You see it a lot in muay thai styles from before the introduction of boxing gloves.
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
That sounds scarey. I think if I saw someone grabbing the back of their head to do an elbow block id power straight the back of their elbow to stretch their tricep and armpit shoulder muscles out of wonk. I always put my palm half on my forehead and half of it over my temple and then flare the pointy part of the elbow to meet the punch.
@juliansanderson8392 жыл бұрын
@@dirtpoorchris I guarantee you that tactic won’t be effective. It would take several full commitment haymakers from the worlds hardest hitters to even come close to damaging the blocking arm in any meaningful way. You’d be lucky if it worked in a sanctioned fight, and that’s after rounds of losing the fight to be sidetracked by their guard. Twenty shots to the arm isn’t worth a single shot to a vital point.
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
@@juliansanderson839 If someone has their knee check in the wrong position with their leg lifted you can literally kick stomp kick the top of their shin and push their femur back and possibly disolocate it. You can do this with the arm socket too if the arm is too much lifted and blocks the wrong way way too high above the head kinda like when grabbing the back of your own head.
@Laneganification2 жыл бұрын
@@dirtpoorchris I've been trying to see how you would do this to my arm and I can't seem to make it work. I think I might have explained poorly and made you picture my elbow pointing straight up in the air? In reality, the elbow points nearly horizontally and across the line between me and my opponent. So to hurt my shoulder and tricep by punching the back of my elbow you'd have to feint a hook and then (because of the angle of my arm) use your OTHER arm to uppercut/hook the back of my elbow diagonally and force it more than 90 degrees upward before I feel a stretch in my muscles. Which seems unlikely. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean. Either way, it hasn't ever come up as an issue in sparring so far. An easier way to take advantage is to feint a hook and then "GO TO THE BODY", but yeah every block leaves you open somewhere.
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
ya I was kinda imagining it being too high in the air
@xxxag17682 жыл бұрын
Been seeing you with this guy on ig since I follow em. I was surprised to know you knew em when I started seeing you on his ig and now I see him on your page. Thats dope
@fireeaglefitnessmartialart9352 жыл бұрын
I did learn same side and opposite side from my coach. My coach trains fighters in Mayweathers gym. And learned from Mayweather Sr. I don't remember about the block from the body punch, except we did learn to parry the jab.
@sparkyy28902 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 400k mike!
@misterydream2 жыл бұрын
Really, again, so good explained! Thanks for sharing :)
@hadizabihi81285 ай бұрын
Amazing video.
@davybigfly2 жыл бұрын
Mike I'm loving the collabs. You are the nick fury of KZbin martial arts.
@johnmachner64502 жыл бұрын
Good stuff thank you
@9usuck02 жыл бұрын
I want what Mike has, his channel just let's him "create content" by just learning from guys who have stuff he wants. I need to start a martial arts KZbin channel. Lol
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
ssshhhhh don't tell my secret.
@weefunkster2 жыл бұрын
We are taught same side for shots that are caught early or short, opposite side if they are reaching
@martialartsunlimited012 жыл бұрын
Oh man, broke that 400k mark! Congratulations
@absimusmaximus39212 жыл бұрын
Love this coach nice work 💯🥊💙🙏🏾
@HeavyHardDrive2 жыл бұрын
Icy Mike giving me those Rocky 1 vibes ! C'mon champ !
@richardbrown49932 жыл бұрын
I try to do same side for the blocks to the body but when I’m in the ring I tend to just use my lead hand side for all blocks to the body lol
@joetorres18612 жыл бұрын
I do both but I prefer cross side on most but I do the same side more on the high guard.
@danielk35302 жыл бұрын
Trained opposite side in kickboxing and same side in boxing. Were different coaches with different backgrounds though. I instinctively use opposite side more often (bc I started with kickboxing) but land a lot more punches when concentrating on same side attacks.
@nunninkav2 жыл бұрын
I commented the drill will likely not hurt different disciplines, but as you add in more variables, things change. What is textbook in boxing, may not be text book in thai where you can strike with anything.
@ives35722 жыл бұрын
"Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee
@GOBRAGH22 жыл бұрын
Effective defense as a beginner can be challenging as the action you are in can be fast and punishing. I work on defense way more than offense. I then do a lot of counter punching against partners that are faster, or more skilled than I am. The first thing I was taught when I went to learn boxing was a lot of defense and footwork. When I first started my partner would go right for the face as much as possible and I had to hold up my left arm like a shield. I do the opposite side because of the partners I had, since the majority would go aggressively to the face.
@ryancarlsen52032 жыл бұрын
I was not trained to do same side or opposite side. We always practiced to throw whichever shoulder was further back or cocked and ready to go.
@OniBoiXD2 жыл бұрын
these are great... only issue with countering with the same hand its easier to read I believe 🤔
@jackbuckley892 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 400k, here's to another :)
@benjaminpujols19142 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would have to stay for me personally I could go either way because it all depends on the Heat of the Moment regardless if it's a match or somebody just starts attacking out of the blue or something like that you just never know so I could be same side I could be opposite side it all depends on my mentality at the moment of being attacked or hit I don't train anymore because I'm tired and busy with work but I will say that in an altercation is very important to be trained and ready
@The31st2 жыл бұрын
Same side squad - Dutch blocks bb!
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
gang gang
@Almosteasyese Жыл бұрын
Idea: if you could get in Lyteburly (52blocksinfo) on the channel he would be great to talk about bareknuckle blocking, plus alot of the blocks you implement yourself and how 52 teaches them. If you got him in a room with Jared and had them talk anything that would be a Harvard course in pugilism
@scottvangasbeck94312 жыл бұрын
That was cool 😎
@253MC2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 400k Mike
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@SenseiofChicago2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@danielordonez4122 жыл бұрын
Hands are faster than eyes. Thats a true statement.
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
The thumb thing seemed kinda silly but I started testing jamming my thumb back with the elbow block and you can definitely jam their thumb back into its own socket but its kinda hard to catch it on right on the 2nd thumb knuckle and get the jamming leverage but definitely doable. Im like Mike my initial instinct is to same side block and wave the hit away and then punch after stealing the inside arm gates.
@supune2 жыл бұрын
That was good. I had trouble following on the first view, and I had to watch it a couple times more. But I did like how you disagreed and kept talking through it even though it. There were times where your style of communication was cutting off Jared before we got his complete sentence. The one thing I really liked about JKD is the guys that I met doing that is that they talked about feeling things out in the context of defense first and then reacting from there. I think that's why I get a kick out of Light Burley and his style of 52 Blocks and how that style starts with blocks and moving with them into counters.
@pyroseed132 жыл бұрын
Same side gang. We were doing opposite side drills earlier tonight and something just felt...off
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
your coach is just a hard2hurt hater and wants to be contrary
@_jbrockk39202 жыл бұрын
I feel like opposite side is more effective in terms of being more of a significant strike. Say if you block a strike one side and roll with the shot, you’re already loaded up for that power shot off the opposite side. Could see both ways being effective in their own ways though.
@dirtpoorchris2 жыл бұрын
hooks are hard to counter man. I got a little trick where I footwork in and land my forearm or wrist on their inner elbow area and they cant hook but sometimes It misses or they end up angling their body and jamming your fingers (without gloves), or you miss the stuffer palm and get hooked.
@dominikussss5522 Жыл бұрын
Love the bromance going on haha I'm doing 5x a week Thai/boxing One of the coaches has this weird jab that you just can't avoid.. you know it's coming, he tells you it's coming..and still it lands on your face.m trying to find a way to fast counter that 😂
@juan33562 жыл бұрын
Please Mike you need to do some videos with Tony Jeffries! IMO one of the best teachers in boxing
@lorenstickler44822 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I was a am skateboarder and every trick I learned, I learned switch. I tell myself I prefer both lol
@ericr261710 ай бұрын
Let the man teach
@necromancer06162 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with J.R. 50/50 allowing you to take advantage of different situations.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just need to spend more time on my other side.
@AugustMMA2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on getting 400K.
@TheNhhs20082 жыл бұрын
I think I do opposite side more but sometimes do same side. probably like a 60/40 split
@phillskinner86712 жыл бұрын
I feel like it depends for me, if I want to circle out or move my opponent I like same side, if I've trying to clean their clock I like opposite side
@chucknorris2022 жыл бұрын
I find myself using the type where you block with one hand, and strike with the hand that isnt occupied. Though like Jared says here; you do need BOTH depending on the situation. And my regular sparring partner is 6 foot 4 and 240lbs lol. I myself am 6'0 even, and around 190lbs or so(I SHOULD weigh about 175-180lbs; I'm overweight right now). I have a massive experience and skill advantage over him; but he's not exactly new himself and has been training about 2 to 3 years or so; he cant handle me when I get close but hes VERY GOOD at keeping his distance using his jab and teep. He has a very powerful right cross the strongest I've ever faced, too. I can't ever slack on my defense against this guy. Damn I wish I was as tall as my brother was(he was 6'4 as well). Because I am usually sparring guys much bigger than myself, my style developed into one where I'm doing a TON of forward leaping motions when I begin a combination; or for single shot leaping hooks. Its less of a leap and more like I just step really hard and glide across the floor quickly throwing my shot. When I spar someone my own height and size, or even someone smaller than me; its quite a bit different, FAR easier in every way. But because its muay thai I have more options even against tall guys like my regular sparring partner. And even vs him I usually out score him in sparring, and def land more head shots. I do not "win" every match though, far from it. Its about 70-30 in my favor; and perhaps lately its even as high as 60-40 because my stamina has gotten worse(my own damned fault, that one). And some days he "wins" more of our sparring matches than I do. It can be incredibly frustrating sparring someone whose several weight classes bigger than him and 4 inches taller with a proportionately greater reach. You gotta be WAY MORE ACTIVE in those types of matches. And to be more active requires more stamina than the other guy..
@rolandotillit28672 жыл бұрын
Same side opposite side depends on how you have your momentum in that moment.
@tripphines4322 жыл бұрын
Same side gang represent!!!
@Summer_Tea2 жыл бұрын
I always liked opposite side because I tend to crazy monkey block for hooks. That means my lead hand is way behind my head and I'm blocking with my entire arm. No real way to same side hook with that hand with any kind of speed. But the cross comes out strong because that block loads up your opposite side anyways. This is all more of an MMA consideration though where you can't just leave your hand on your temple to block a hook.
@SJ_Jordan2 жыл бұрын
Hey mike, love the content, my one critique is to let your guest talk alittle more since we already see you talk in your other vids
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader2 жыл бұрын
Been following him for a while. NEver heard his voice till today lmao
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
Yeah his IG reels are all silent movies.
@antonym002 жыл бұрын
Same! I liked it. He should do a KZbin channel, I'd be the first to follow.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
@@antonym00 he has a youtube channel
@antonym002 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt what 😬
@derekvandenburg66892 жыл бұрын
Great video good sir. I am going to check his channel out and subscribe
@MasculineSpace2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see you spar him boxing and then kick boxing to see how he deals with the kicks that would be a great video anyways great video as always mike!
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. You trying to get me beat up?
@muggoganerva2512 жыл бұрын
the intro: "Real QUIck"
@FrodeFalch2 жыл бұрын
Let the man talk Mike.. 🤫
@garveydj918710 ай бұрын
Catch and shoot with same hand / counter with opposite hand. Pretty standard stuff.
@alvarocabrera83322 жыл бұрын
so my dirty boxing moves just increased, lubed jab, knee to knee in the clinch and now this thumb breaking stuff
@takitonamase56832 жыл бұрын
i don't do this kind of stuff but i just like to watch Mike . _ .
@lesbubka2 жыл бұрын
Opposite for me, I like training with closed eyes. Never tried with boxing, but we do that a lot with wrestling.
@hard2hurt2 жыл бұрын
Weirdos!
@lesbubka2 жыл бұрын
@@hard2hurt that’s how I was taught, will try your way too 🤔
@alexshtyn63362 жыл бұрын
I'm short and opposite side counters make me feel vulnerable for some reason so same side gang.