Hardest Puzzle Breaks Brains | Surviving Barstool S4 Ep. 8

[@MadMrMatter]

Francis has a lot more self control than i do, i woulda fucking lost it

[@djp1363]

“It will die if you get eliminated”. You were not clear at all Jeff

[@patrickryan7400]

It would have died if he had it when he got eliminated. For some reason he gave up possession of it before he got eliminated. It was a dumb. Move either way. It’s clear Dave and Ria understood . Not to mention Francis is probably toast here either way . Big cat already voted for him and if Ria voted for him they get Francis out and an idol for their alliance.

[@mikemartin5340]

@@patrickryan7400 Dave didn’t understand. He literally walked away without asking for it, because he understood it in exactly the same way Frances did. I’m sure ria watched survivor and that’s why she knew

[@gvlgw]

Knowing survivor I understood Jeff, but Jeff really fucked Francis by not telling him he has to be holding it when the votes are read for it to die.

[@BlizzKrieger]

CORRECT. if he kept his plan to use it on dave if he keeps him in the future. but instead he just gave him the idol.

[@patrickryan7400]

@@mikemartin5340no Dave very clearly understood he was shocked to see Francis was offering it. you can see that smirk on his face. If he understood it the same way as Francis then why did he still vote for Francis???? That would void the idol.

[@davidmccrae4497]

Jeff that was actually terrible. Francis did not deserve that. That was an absolute joke of an ending

[@Mims-ht1df]

Nah that’s on him allday

[@zeekot4064]

Francis fucked himself.. it was clear what the rule was

[@sherm11]

jeff's gotta go after that.. that was the worst thing i've seen in any survivor. very seriously considering stopping watching the show now. hats off to francis (one of the only likable people left) for handling it like a man. Disgraceful from every other party. ria and dave are scum, but jeff, seriously.. absolute embarrassment.

[@Sillygoose862]

Francis made so many dumb mistakes. That last one included. I def didn’t interpret that “clarification” the way he did. Nor would I have needed the clarification. It’s obvious.

[@Mims-ht1df]

@@sherm11 u clearly have never seen survivor

[@mitchellsoell7549]

Literally just screwed over the most fun personality in the game because Jeff can’t figure out how to speak

[@derekwustman2559]

Jeff is the absolute worst.

[@jcallie259888]

He was gonna be out regardless but Dave wouldn’t have ended up with the idol

[@michaelmorrissey3972]

Ria yelling about how the idol is still active after telling him not to play it was insufferable

[@cade7117]

Haven't consumed any of her content but this has made me really not like her

[@mikemoneyy2335]

Hank REALLY dodged a bullet with her

[@ed3124]

I hate her.

[@HAP3000]

She’s insufferable

[@tylerwade9123]

Ria is a walking red flag. Her fiance should dump her

[@J-M-E]

“It’s a tool that kindergartners use as an admission process”. FRANCIS is the MAN 😂😂😂😂

[@jm4446]

Funniest contestant the whole show. Got screwed but just wish he’d watched couple seasons of real survivor before going on. Definitely could’ve won it all

[@wittyname88]

And then proceeds to flub the idol play so hard it was excruciating to watch. Was one of my favorites in the series too. Poor rone is next.

[@njr5698]

Who is rones hat signed by

[@patrickryan7400]

@@J-M-E that was a funny line but his move at the end was one of the dumbest moves in any survivor game.

[@facetiousLemur]

Justice for Francis

[@GoBirdsss]

Had to hang onto it until after tribal. If he gets voted out with it, then obviously it's gone. He gave it up while he was still in the game. He literally said "i'll give it to you the next time your in trouble" which is to say he had no intention of giving it up in that moment but he did anyway. Pretty straightforward

[@breakerwizard302]

I dont understand why he wouldnt just use it? what was he going to gain by giving it to dave?

[@GoBirdsss]

@@breakerwizard302 he couldn’t use it after they tied. The idea was he’d give it to Dave AFTER he was safe. His pitch was if they kept him in the game even though they planned to vote him out in the revote, he’d give Dave the idol. But he fucked up by giving it away too early

[@nobodytooyou9225]

nah he's an idiot

[@mikegiordano1880]

Francis is a dummy

[@JordanBaileyMerkel]

I’m so mad Francis is out. He was my fav!

[@sherm11]

literally everyone's. he was the show.

[@tannerperkins_15]

@@sherm11facts. how can you not root for francis man. this sucks.

[@Yourabsyx7]

@@tannerperkins_15love Francis but he was playing by far the worst game

[@haileeeyscoupa1781]

I’m upset you spoiled it for me. But now I don’t even want to watch!!!!!!!!

[@tacotom3492]

​@@haileeeyscoupa1781why would you go to the comments 1st.. DF 😂

[@ginodigiovanni3516]

Jeff was supposed to say “If the idol is in your possession and you get voted out, the idol is dead. But if you give the idol to someone else and you still get voted out, then the idol stays alive to the new person with possession of it”

[@EliEnterprise]

That shouldn’t need to be explained. And that’s not what Francis asked.

[@jm62483]

Francis should have asked that question, then. Jeff 100% accurately answered the question he was asked, and then Francis made a completely idiotic move.

[@anon9025]

They are playing for $250,000. This was absolutely bush league. If someone is asking for the rules. You cant tell half truths.

[@jm62483]

@@anon9025 Literally not a half truth. Jeff answered the question he was asked correctly. Then Francis made a bone-headed move. It isn't Jeff's job to explain the repercussions of a move in the game. He answered the question he was asked. If Francis wanted further clarification, he should have asked a different question.

[@anon9025]

@jm62483 he knew the question he was really asking. Obviously Francis knew he if he got voted out with the idol it would die. Which is why he asked the question in the first place.

[@murph31221]

God I love Biz "Who turned on you?" "All of em" "Who turned on you the most?" "Dave and Dan didn't vote for me but they had everyone else do it" "Fuckin cowards couldn't even do it themselves"

[@thtswhtshesai6d9]

I will be so fucking happy if Biz wins

[@kylethumm2585]

Biz is a gem. He needs to win or at least be the reason that Dave/Cat get sent home

[@Singular_Opinion]

Spittin’ Chiclets has made this season electric.

[@CannonJack-tm6ow]

Jeff finds a way to involve himself in the actual game every year and that’s the worst thing you can do as a host.

[@hwcubs2012]

Jeff didn’t involve himself Francis is just dumb Harvard doesn’t teach common sense I guess

[@AidanCulverREAL]

@@hwcubs2012No lmao. Jeff was not clear at all. Jeff is the idiot he’s an awful host.

[@uneedamuracle]

“Mints tribe’s top right piece is moving a little bit!!!” Lol dude stfu

[@percyandrews3626]

Moobie crying from literal "survior's guilt" is absolutely hilarious

[@lastiheardpodcast]

I thought this exact statement lol

[@8bitbanana]

i like how she said it was an emotional game but i never see her talking to anyone to see who to vote out 😂

[@porkyrabbit]

Ria just signed her own death warrant

[@Mikehurts8349]

How?

[@Krow52]

​@@Mikehurts8349She literally backstabbed Francis within 5 mins and everyone at the house (who will get to vote for the winner) saw it. She exposed herself BAD

[@stevemygoodman7809]

@@Mikehurts8349she just played everyone. No one can trust her now

[@colingentry296]

She played one person who's now gone ​@stevemygoodman7809

[@Yourabsyx7]

@@stevemygoodman7809she has potentially two idols and her core alliance still trust her.

[@Yosef_Earnhardt]

Rico thinking he’s listening to Ria inside the room when she’s walking down the hallway behind him is straight out of a cartoon

[@GowDee]

Respect to Francis for not going out like Jerry when he had more of a reason to be upset.

[@randyfreshwater]

After offering the Idol: Francis: "If I'm eliminated from the game it's dead?" Jeff D Lowe: "It will die if you get eliminated, yes correct" JDL, you blew it man,

[@patrickryan7400]

Francis blew it. It’s exactly that if Francis got eliminated it dies with him. For some dumb reason Francis handed it to Dave before he got eliminated. All time blunder.

[@jamespeters771]

Facts he didn't say he had to be holding it, he just said it would die if he got eliminated Jeff sold that for Francis

[@randyfreshwater]

@@patrickryan7400 Yeah, but he was asking if he gave it to him, would it still die with him. Obviously it dies if he keeps it and is voted out.

[@TimJonesKnows]

100% facts Francis was clear about that

[@patrickryan7400]

@@randyfreshwater I don’t think anyone thought Francis was dumb enough to hand it over before the final vote. It really does t change much for Francis . Big cat had already voted for him and Ria had no reason not to vote for him. You can’t excuse Francis stupidity these last few episodes.

[@THEBILLYSOLSON]

Ria lost herself the game this episode.

[@TimJonesKnows]

Forsure. I think Rones eyes are gonna be wide open now. Idk why she’s been so obsessed w keeping Dave and Dan

[@wuwu428]

@@TimJonesKnowsno one will want to give Dave money because he’s rich and owns the company. Big Cat is one of her biggest alliances.

[@christerrell6575]

Rone is next then Dan and ria take down Dave. I see cat will and biz teaming up against Kirk . Rico is the key

[@bulldogsforeva]

@@THEBILLYSOLSON if her team is as stupid as they’ve been so far, she will win the whole thing. It’s ridiculous how bad her team is at this game

[@pierce6288]

I disagre.., ria, dave, big cat,rico has legs and if she can get that group towards the end she is the winner. Rone has no power in this game

[@hakalamusic]

If you can’t play the idol during a tie breaker then you shouldn’t be able to pass it

[@jgarcc]

i know. it made no sense it it’s a complete recount he should be able to use it after the count

[@clav3284]

100%. But also seems like francis was out either way whether he kept it or gave it to Dave. Francis shouldn’t have told anyone that he has an idol in the first place

[@UserUser77352]

Nah that’s be so broken. You got to play it before any votes are read. In the actual show Survivor its always been like that for many reasons. Itd be ridiculous if they can play an idol on a revote

[@uneedamuracle]

@@UserUser77352 Lol right? Imagine a tie between two people and one has an idol 😂. Can’t work that way.

[@Millenium2927]

But you also can’t give it away during a revote either. Cause then everyone would give it to their alliance on their way out and they’d be super hard to ‘flush’

[@devinfortman6082]

Biz finally starting to play the game, the three CTE specialists laying down and it just clicks that Kirk has the numbers

[@allen.senderson]

*every year Jeff does something controversial that shows how dumb he really is*

[@VicMob421]

Francis got screwed. He took it like a champ. But if I'm him I'm furious. Jeff dropped the ball on this one and I thought he's been great so far as the host. Dave understood exactly what he said that's why he walked away at first without grabbing the idol.

[@dayman5417]

No you're just slow.

[@VicMob421]

@dayman5417 your mom.

[@JustKG3]

Why he was out regardless. Doesn’t affect him at all if anything the rest of the contestants left should be furious. Plus he’s on the jury so he gets a say in who wins

[@VicMob421]

Because if I'm gonna get eliminated, and I didn't use the idol to keep myself from getting eliminated. I want it to die with me. I don't want the people who eliminated me to be able to use it. But also, Francis did completely misplay it, obviously. But I don't expect the host to tell me the wrong answer when I'm asking him if something is legal or how it works.

[@nicko4992]

Unfortunately dave played both of them, he knew he could get it from francis beacuse he's his boss, and he knew jeff wouldnt question him because he's his boss... Survivor is about politics and usually the guy in charge has the most sway politically...

[@ElKapitan6868]

That’s what you get for having Jeff run the game

[@GG45945]

Jeff is such a little shrimp loser. Seemed clear to me what Francis meant...

[@mikefierro3]

He’s so bad at these game shows

[@dilly2j]

‼️‼️‼️‼️ as bad as he wants to be the ultimate game show host, he is awful at it.

[@davemaynard3058]

JEFF IS STUPID

[@cadem.1017]

How can it be more clear

[@tarheelamos137]

Jeff D Lowe absolutely sucks at hosting, he definitely wasnt clear with Francis

[@N3ut]

@@tarheelamos137 francis should have asked a better question

[@N3ut]

@@tarheelamos137 he has no obligation to answer a question that wasn’t asked, if he wanted to know if dave were to get it if the idol would still be eliminated after he’s eliminated he should ask that. also no matter what he was getting eliminated so it doesn’t matter

[@spennyfras3866]

He asked the question and got an answer. Not his fault Jeff assumes everyone cranks their meat to survivor like he does and he took it literally. As a host he needs to take his time to explain and not try act like Jeff Probst. ​@@N3ut

[@N3ut]

@ they’ve had 3 seasons of this show and have never changed the rules on idols

[@N3ut]

@ maybe the guy who graduated from Harvard should take his degree and put it to use

[@matthewshoetay]

I think everyone in the world but Jeff understood what Francis said but they just gave Dave and idol is insane

[@Wahliou]

Dave asks “can he give it to me now?” And instead of Jeff clarifying that if Francis gives away the idol now it is officially no longer his whether he is voted off or not Jeff says “ to clarify the idol can not be used anymore now, but if he wants to give it to you now he can, it dies if you’re eliminated “ I don’t know how when important questions are asked about gameplay there isn’t like a time out and some thought about how to answer the question. It seems everytime there is a question all of the people running the game look around at each other with shoulders shrugged and then one person will make up an answer on the fly and say thats the rule… There’s a quarter of a million dollars on the line. Justice for Francis.

[@patrickryan7400]

@@Wahliou I think you’re mistaken it is not Jeff’s job to hold Francis’ hand and make sure he doesn’t make this truly idiotic move. The rule had already been explained and really shouldn’t need to be explained. The idea alone to try trade Dave ( of all people) the idol was really dumb. Didn’t matter anyway Francis was already going home Ria and big cat both voted for him.

[@scottryall]

@@patrickryan7400 How was it explained? He told it would die if Francis was eliminated. Without any additional context, that turned out to be false information.

[@Cobuh]

Ria literally can’t win this now

[@Mikehurts8349]

I hope you’re right, but how?

[@kylethumm2585]

@@Mikehurts8349 because she is making enemies with all the people that will be voting for the winner

[@tracelenny8572]

@@Mikehurts8349 Francis could easily tell the jury not to pick her

[@jz7109]

@@Mikehurts8349 She over played her hand. It's easy to do.

[@Yourabsyx7]

I don’t think people realize between her and fave they potentially have 3 idols lol. She’s been running the game in terms of the voting. And could go into the merger with a potential of 3 idols with Dave. If she carries him to a final she definitely should win

[@mikemartin5340]

HE WAS NOT CLEAR LOL. I understood it exactly the same way Frances did

[@noddy2slurps742]

Then your as dumb as he was 😂 it was clear as day

[@mikemartin5340]

Seems like you’re the only genius here brotha

[@jeffives1181]

I thought the same. Jeff is an idiot

[@davidmccrae4497]

@@mikemartin5340 dude Jeff absolutely choked there. Where the hell is the structure?! I can not believe what just happened. I thought exactly the same thing Francis did

[@mikemartin5340]

@@davidmccrae4497 “can i give it to him right now?” Paraphrased: yes, but it will die if you’re eliminated. What a flop. And it changes the entire game- now we’re destined for a ria, Dave, and big cat final if they play it right

[@dz1211]

So biased when you have Jeff and Tommy making up rules for things directly impacting their boss lmao Jeff was terrible at the end

[@mattgowans547]

What was biased?

[@cadem.1017]

Oh come the fuck on 😂 Francis thinking he can just add a condition to the idol for some reason is why he fucked up. It wouldn’t have changed the vote anyways

[@dz1211]

@ the fact that they knew exactly what Francis meant and just chose to ignore it. Then Tommy jumps in to officiate like he would ever say anything opposite of Dave. They’ve had rules broken every competition and Tommy isn’t even man enough to enforce them.

[@Mark-qc8hu]

@@mattgowans547are u retarrrrded?

[@justinthibault5823]

This is exactly how it would work in Survivor. Unless the idol is stolen, whoever holds it, has its power. Francis needed to wait to see what Dave did before giving him the idol. Francis' plan would have worked, and he could have given Dave the idol after. But he physically gave it up.

[@tg26089]

Big Cat having no loyalty to his OG yak brother Rone is honestly heartbreaking

[@eelriff14]

yea him siding with ria over rone is nuts man

[@Hector.Zeroni]

How are you not going to show the votes at the end of the episode!? It was a 3 way tie and we don't know who voted for who!!!?

[@philbox3productions]

I think it’s pretty obvious it didn’t matter the 4 of Ria, Big Cat, Dave, and Moobs split there votes between Rone and Francis in case Francis played the idol so then they would easily vote out Rone instead

[@Sneakyblessed]

Jeff totally mispoke, Francis even asked to clarify

[@pgrz281]

He would have been out regardless

[@Thelankiestwopster]

@@pgrz281dumb argument, Dave has an idol and they already bootlick for him

[@cade7117]

​@@pgrz281Yeah but Dave wouldn't have the idol

[@Tom_Swift]

Jeff answered his question, Francis should have asked a better question...

[@seanleary6516]

Too many people in the comments haven’t watched survivor. All time stupid move by Francis. But now Dave now has zero chance of a jury voting for him

[@kavinmendez7589]

Terrible terrible decision to screw Francis over cause you’re afraid of the boss.

[@brodywinrow9222]

100 percent.

[@cadem.1017]

There’s no way that’s what you got out of it 😂😂 Francis didn’t understand the rules and it didn’t fuck him over at all it just let Dave keep an idol. It wouldn’t have saved Francis he was already dead

[@danielle1713]

dude - she knows the jury wont choose dave if she makes it far with him....

[@Tom_Swift]

buddy, francis screwed himself you're like a little kid blaming the controller not working. he should have held onto the idol and let it die with him if he didn't want Dave to have it.

[@patrickryan7400]

@@kavinmendez7589 dude Francis gets eliminated this episode no matter what. Ria and big cat both voted for him. Even mentioning trading Dave the idol was a dumb play.

[@robmonroe635]

All 3 votes were for Francis so it wouldn't have mattered either way for him....but Jeff just handed his boss an idol with his absolute lack of understanding of what Francis wanted clarified and his total incompetence at making things clear for the contestants.

[@joemelchior5818]

If anything that idol just put a target on Dave. Francis had to know the other two votes were for him anyway

[@justinthibault5823]

Did we watch the same episode? Francis has mismanaged this idol since the second he got it.

[@erickmurashko1751]

He couldn't keep it a secret. Thats mistake number one. Then sharing it with people he had a wishy washy alliance with at best. The more people that know about, the more the advantage of having it goes down the toilet. Eventually the whole tribe knew about it, and he had no clue. Which opened him up to getting played. @@justinthibault5823

[@MrDodger3]

Ria voted for Francis because when Dave came back he said "I stuck with the plan and voted for Francis". If what Francis thought Jeff agreed with that if Francis is voted out, the idol dies, Ria and Dave would've voted Rone and he would've been out

[@jonlance1990]

​@justinthibault5823 Jeff literally said the idol is currently inactive until after the vote and if Francis gets voted out the idol is dead. This is 1000% on Jeff.

[@Sekots]

Man this show really makes you hate Jeff Lowe

[@tylercurtis1842]

Rico is doing so much of everything while doing absolutely nothing at all 😂😂😂

[@m4dec3nt31]

Jeff is an embarrassing amateur hour producer letting that happen like that. What a clown. No spine to stand up to Dave.

[@CannonJack-tm6ow]

Jeff’s go to reaction to people questioning the rules is to get super defensive and in the past unprofessional. PTSD from the dozen but he shouldn’t be doing this type of content.

[@jomarsantiago978]

JDL should be in prison. "If you get eliminated it will die..yes."

[@bftdsteve]

Sure, assuming he has it. He screwed himself by giving it away before he was safe.

[@Johnny-mo4xz]

100%

[@Tom_Swift]

Jeff answered his question How dumb can you be to not understand that....

[@beez9525]

@@bftdstevethe whole context behind it was if he gives it to Dave and he gets eliminated will it still die with him. The answer was yes. It was clear as day as to what the answer there was. They dropped the ball with the whole thing and someone not stepping in from the production team was complete bs.

[@andrewzelter4903]

literally didn't change the outcome of him getting voted off

[@mrgrinch2133]

Holy shit Jeff with an all time absolutely horrid performance at his job. Holy . Shit

[@Sonnynola123]

the big mistake was Francis telling anybody he had an idol in the first place

[@richardapollojr5764]

Jeff ruining the only good thing left at barstool…

[@tervkeh3426]

WTF WAS THAT. Just when I thought this was turning into a good show, you pull that at the end. Brutal.

[@Gfranny]

Exactly was liking the show until that bs. Literally making rules up and changing them for the boss is a scam. What's the script here now at this point.. Francis said it exactly right why would he even bother to offer the idol to him then?? What a buzz kill

[@jonlance1990]

Jeff never fails to fuck up the show mid season

[@grungeface]

@@Gfrannyare you slow? Have to be. How tf if it’s in someone else’s hand, it dies if a different person goes out?

[@jayandrusiak]

@@grungeface After re-watching a few times Jeff messed this up. They were speaking in the context of “if Francis gave it to him now” and Jeff said if Francis is eliminated the idol won’t work. He should have clarified that it only wouldn’t work if he holds onto it when he gets eliminated which is not what Francis asked because that’s obvious af. Jeff then changed the rules 30 seconds later and says the idol still works. Jeff wasn’t smart enough to even understand what Francis asked.

[@jayandrusiak]

@@grungeface After re-watching a few times Jeff messed this up. They were speaking in the context of “if Francis gave it to him now” and Jeff said if Francis is eliminated the idol won’t work. He should have clarified that it only wouldn’t work if he holds onto it when he gets eliminated which is not what Francis asked because that’s obvious af. Jeff then changed the rules 30 seconds later and says the idol still works. Jeff wasn’t smart enough to even understand what Francis asked.

[@glennrudolph]

Whoever made the release schedule over the holidays needs to be fired. Why the world would you give everyone 2 weeks to forget about barstool survivor…..and over CHRISTMAS?!? Smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@benjaminkennedy3913]

Incredible miscalculation on their part

[@2eggrollz]

so everyone can forget about how they jobbed Francis

[@Tom_Swift]

This might sound wild but people have lives outside of internet videos. For one, all of the employees have to engage on socials for the show but they're be on holiday with their families. HOW DARE THEY!

[@robertm3360]

The company finally has a production show that hasn't been spoiled and they don't air it the week the entire office in on vacation and the live shows don't exist.

[@DanDan-vq4qj]

the barstool way

[@LargeAaron]

Ria's mistake might be that she is playing like an actual survivor with people who respect the game and understand that it's a game. She is clearly the best player. I hope that she doesn't get a bitter jury, but she probably will

[@cade7117]

Zero chance she wins if she gets to the end. Her confessionals and brutal lying has made her come across SOOO unlikable

[@LargeAaron]

@@cade7117 It's funny because that has made me like her more. I had no idea who she was before this. I am also a big Survivor fan, so I probably am watching in a different way than a lot of people.

[@cade7117]

@@LargeAaron yeah, the audience might appreciate the "gamesmanship" or how she is playing but the jury sure as hell won't. She is screwed

[@brianb1888]

No she isn’t. Part of the game is not having everyone hate you. That’s why so many people are not trying to make these moves. She’s been lucky everyone on her team falls into that category and haven’t wanted to make big moves or else she wouldn’t have made it to day 2

[@gradygillum]

Francis got screwed

[@N3ut]

by himself

[@gunit8315]

By his own doing

[@qwerty112311]

@@gunit8315bad play listening to Ria. Jeff d lowest quality game show host sucking off Dave by allowing him to keep the idol after such a piss poor and misleading explanation is the real travesty here.

[@TFKK93]

He fd up when he didn’t use it right before the results so he got desperate

[@austincooksaveragefood]

No he wasn't. He was being voted out either way. He wasn't eligible to play the idol after the initial vote.

[@NCStateAlum]

Francis got absolutely hosed.

[@N3ut]

by himself

[@NCStateAlum]

@ Dave should’ve accepted it if he knew he was gonna vote for Francis. Just shady shit to say he wouldn’t to get the idol then vote for him 5 seconds later.

[@glmacewan]

@@NCStateAlum "Outwit, Outplay, Outlast". Welcome to Surviving.

[@JustKG3]

@@NCStateAlumthat’s the game baby!

[@gunit8315]

Wrong

[@danmark1731]

I would protest the idol ruling

[@benjaminsyse5626]

“You were holding the idol” Doesn’t change the fact that you should have explained the rules clearly and concisely. And Ria explaining the rule smug as shit because it benefits her. Cheering for Will and the boys because of her

[@annielawn9531]

I don’t understand these comments hating on Ria…She wanted to flush out the idol by getting Francis out so she made the strategic moves in order to do just that by telling him not to play it. Nobody could have predicted Francis giving away his idol before the vote was even finalized because it makes zero sense 😂 I was rooting for Francis but he can’t blame anyone but himself for not understanding how the game works.

[@bostonpride1717]

absolute BS ruling for the idol

[@yahir1018]

The only BS I see is Francis trusting ria As soon as she told him That she wants to keep Dave around because he is not going to win Francis should of used the idol !

[@gunit8315]

You’re dumb like Francis

[@Tom_Swift]

Francis is an idiot so cry about that buddy 😂

[@Cgrill95]

That’s how survivor works, Francis can give Dave the idol, but Dave is allowed to lie (and say he would not vote for Francis, but actually vote for him)

[@bostonpride1717]

@ that’s fine, but Jeff made it seem like if Francis died in that moment the idol was out of play

[@tylerkarstetter6451]

Jeff just screwed Francis so bad, he clearly knew what Francis was asking

[@cadem.1017]

Well he didnt screw Francis at all actually he was already being voted off. Francis not understanding the rules just gave Dave a free idol

[@thtswhtshesai6d9]

Maybe I’m confused but wouldn’t Francis have been screwed either way? It was too late to use his idol…the only thing he did was ensure Dave gets to use it now

[@JohnnyGingy]

Correct Francis missed his opportunity to use it. To save himself or anyone else on this vote…it would’ve been a dead idol if he didn’t give it to Dave. He word saladed himself when he asked Jeff that question, and got confused by the answer.

[@Stuu4158]

Kelly Keegs wine drunk crying in confessional lmaooooo

[@thejaggerrr]

Always liked Ria but I watched 57 minutes of Surviving Barstool tonight and I need her out of the show and out of my life forever

[@ItsDoubleJ22]

Why is everyone so outraged?? Francis couldn’t have played the idol on the revote even if he kept it

[@alexjordan9370]

Exactly. If he couldn't have played it at the re-vote, he was done either way. He should've gone with his gut and played it at the original vote, especially after Ria told him not to. How he didn't see that as a giant red flag is beyond me.

[@bucks7358]

Well the point is…Dave unfairly got a free idol lmao

[@bucks7358]

If you want to play by “real” survivor rules that is not allowed and on top of that Jeff said it would die if he handed it over and was voted out…

[@bucks7358]

Francis played it poorly, but he even clarified with Jeff

[@user-tn2ym5hd5g]

Jeff is such a bad host, dude has 0 alpha in him. Always looking for someone else with that dumb face to answer for him

[@Tom_Swift]

Jeff answered his question, Francis should have asked a better question 😂

[@Johnny-mo4xz]

His dad is turning in his grave!! My son is a dumb pus$y

[@jsha11113]

@@Tom_Swiftno he didn’t, he said it would die, the host should explain it better AS THE HOST

[@Tom_Swift]

@@jsha11113 53:17 watch that convo again sir, all of francis' questions are answered

[@keinonsmith8616]

@@Tom_Swift and they were answered poorly. L take

[@andrewsheridan24]

Ria is so done. She’s surviving rn but the TRIBE HATESSSSS RIA

[@jonathanolson9425]

Potential 2 idols and a strong alliance with another idol holder… she is making it to the merge :/

[@smurf232323]

@@jonathanolson9425 and everyone she got voted out will vote against her in the finals

[@sherm11]

yeah she might make it.. but 0 shot anyone gives her the money.. couldn't have played worse since the jury process started. she might be public enemy number one.

[@crutopiarecords4874]

Not just the tribes. Audience hates her guts

[@Yourabsyx7]

@@jonathanolson9425I don’t think people understand how the game works lol ria has the strongest chance to make it to the end now. She hasn’t backstabbed Dave or big car and moobie is just glad to be there. Only person who actually would want her gone now is tone

[@aliveguy1007]

“He’s built one of the most successful companies in the world and he doesn’t know how to assemble blocks”

[@beaufas68]

It’s just J money promoting J influence, barstool has been in the red for years. How else do you buy a company for a penny that was sold for hundreds of millions a couple years prior

[@unccusend]

I realllllly hope Ria goes home soon, she’s insufferable. Francis was the best content on this show, bummed he’s gone.

[@nwilliams38]

Dave immediately voting for Francis after getting his idol is an all-time classic

[@samhendricks7112]

Need a new host next season Jeff D Lowe STINKS

[@AroundHockey]

Let's have mintzy host it next season, would be a much greater host than jeff dirt bag lowe

[@samhendricks7112]

@ would be a huge upgrade from an IQ standpoint

[@KellyDM]

Give me a break. Jeff is a great host and works hard on these things, as well as the dozen.

[@WoatComments]

@@KellyDMwhat is this Jeff’s burner account?

[@jeremylowe2309]

I LOVE the way Jeff takes no blame. He literally does this on the dozen as well. Jeff D Lowe should be banned from these. Even the dozen.

[@oopsiedoodles]

Love Biz not putting up with Big Cat being fake. Fake nice guy vs real nice guy

[@Mark-qc8hu]

Exactly. Big cat should have zero following. He is a zero that recycles others jokes.

[@lo17107]

getting Whit out was absolutely the riight move. If him, Biz, Will, and Taylor got to the merger they would dominate the challenges and have an alliance. Dave literally told Whit it was between him and Moobs. Big Cat doesn't want the game to affect real world relationships with people he cares about so he tried to talk to Biz. How is that being a fake nice guy? Do you realize it's a game they're playing?

[@DirkCrew]

Exactly it’s a game

[@patrickryan7400]

@@oopsiedoodles buddy I don’t think you understand the concept of this game.

[@joelmorris32]

Whit and people who are voted off being able to walk through to the other team and tell people who betrayed them is pretty wild…

[@DM-zp3bb]

Why did Francis stop looking for keys/idols? Could have potentially stacked multiple and had a field day. Hope he is on next year! He was a riot!

[@andrewlincoln4127]

If that’s Rone in Francis’ place, he argues his way into the idol back. Which shows you how bad the organizational structure is on this show. Horrific by Jeff and tommy.

[@ArgieMina]

Right, why can’t you just give an idol to your friends when it’s a tie. Seems silly to be able to do that during eliminations

[@Drcook567]

The stream of the house with Whit, Mintz and Klemmer would’ve been awesome 😂😂

[@benschroeder382]

You know they had to be saying some egregious shit to not have any clips of it lmao

[@BrendenRice-c8i]

Jeff could not have worded that more poorly without outright lying

[@alexanderlewis1705]

Whit is hilarious 😂

[@dathies50]

Keegs is so competitive. I love that they keep putting her on these shows bc she is so passionate about the challenges

[@bingjohnsonw6580]

Jeff is so bad at hosting bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Tom_Swift]

when you realize Jeff answered his question... Francis should have asked a better question. 😂

[@gobirds8949]

Jeff explained that like an idiot

[@caseharrison80]

Bro that’s some crazy stuff. Lol semantics. They knew what Francis was asking and still screwed him haha come on now

[@CannonJack-tm6ow]

Going to Tommy the “impartial judge” to make a ruling on something that benefits Dave was rich.

[@skol-train]

That’s what I’m pissed about too. They knew what he meant and decided not to give him correct information. Moves like that will keep you from being able to sell the show.

[@gunit8315]

Francis is dumb

[@mattgowans547]

I'm confused, how did Francis get screwed?

[@Gfranny]

Were you watching the same ending as everyone else?? Dude clear as day asked if he is voted off does rhe idol die. Total bs ending.​@mattgowans547

[@MichaelDegener-m6v]

Francis with the kindergarten process was legendary

[@MELLYSWORLD100]

Honestly him telling that Francis has an idol shouldn’t be allowed when someone’s eliminated they should be escorted straight out and someone bring their stuff. Y’all have no structure and it shows especially in the challenges.

[@Maggot_Malore]

Jeff D Lowe does this with rules on all his shows. The guy is brain dead

[@dilly2j]

Correct, just changes/makes up rules as he sees fit.

[@davemaynard3058]

100% BRAIN DEAD

[@davemaynard3058]

I THINK JEFF JUST FLAT OUT LIED BECAUSE HES SCARED OF DAVE

[@Drcook567]

Big Cat saying you can’t just be sitting on the couch right before trial and the cut to him and Dave also sitting on the couch 😂😂

[@Yourabsyx7]

I really hope the jury understands the masterclass of a game ria is playing right now. You can tell she’s watched the show before.

[@thebigcheeseful]

Biz is a king

[@leonardomartinez7037]

Rico taking Whit’s golf clubs is diabolical. He’s off his meds lol

[@1der607]

Portnoy’s raw unathleticism is astonishing. In fact, Dave being so damn unathletic was more of a detriment to his team than his one bad shoulder…

[@jakemcpherson7085]

Francis got screwed, he said if he was eliminated the idol dies

[@dayman5417]

And he gave it to dave before he was eliminated meaning it wasnt his anymore so that rule doesn't matter. Wake up

[@cadem.1017]

How does that screw Francis?

[@burmyo1701]

@@dayman5417it’s crazy how ppl don’t get that. lol. Literally didnt think it needed that much explanation .

[@andrewzelter4903]

there's nothing he could've done in that moment that would've prevented him from getting voted off. You saying he got screwed implies he could've saved himself if he understood the rules but by not playing the idol before the first vote he was done for.

[@jakemcpherson7085]

@ because if the rule actually was what Jeff said it was, that the idol dies if Francis is eliminated, then Dave and Ria don’t vote Francis out so that Dave has a working idol. Jeff going back on what he says once the idol is handed to Dave screwed Francis.

[@amateurstanding]

It’s pretty clear these guys know survivor so well they didn’t take enough time to clearly explain the rules. I was stunned when Francis gave it to him but watched back and can understand how Francis would have been so confused.

[@restlessriver5870]

How is this better then a production that cost multi of millions of dollars. Best play I have ever seen. They went for the triple tie vote, Francis didn't play the idol, through the triple tie they got him out. Dumbest play I have ever seen was Francis giving Dave the idol before Dave voting. Fantastic episode.

[@gabejones3500]

I can’t lie me and Jeff would have to fight I need at least my 60 seconds

[@bcozzy8537]

Jeff should’ve been more clear on the rules when he said it will die if you’re eliminated.

[@JR-nq7mc]

There's no way the jury is going pay for Marty's wedding by letting Ria win this. No way.

[@mikefierro3]

The sad thing is she’s going to win. You can see it all falling into place especially cause Jeff is an idiot and can’t run/host any show with his brain

[@sherm11]

@@mikefierro3 there is literally zero chance.

[@PissMissiles]

@@mikefierro3 most of the council will be against her in the end

[@danielle1713]

you're mad she's just smarter than all of them lol

[@cade7117]

​@@danielle1713but thats like being smarter than a bunch of star fish. Not saying much. Also, smart or not she is coming across VERY unlikable

[@codyokriv6942]

It's clearly rone or ria at this point. Both are playing head and shoulders above the rest of the field.

[@wkassab1]

Agree it was unclear and Francis’ interpretation was reasonable… But Dave and Ria understood what Jeff explained. In the context of whether Francis needed to give Dave the idol before he was voted off, that was clear. It’s also not on Jeff to enforce Francis’ agreement with Dave or ensure Francis understood the dynamic. Francis messed up by giving Dave the idol before he voted - period

[@ryanlombardi9208]

stop showing the confessionals during challenges it spoils it everytime.

[@KeeganSaben-j8s]

Jeff Lowe is actually moronic for the end of this episode. Also - Ria told Francis not to play the idol and then looked directly in the camera while voting for him and said it was to pull his idol.. she’s lying for fun out there

[@thtswhtshesai6d9]

I mean that’s not really for fun 🤨 she just convinced the person getting voted off to not use the only thing that would save them.

[@KeeganSaben-j8s]

Correct but that’s not what I’m talking about. She didn’t expect the cameras to pick that up. She wanted the audience to think she was innocent and just getting his idol played when she was really stabbing him in the back

[@MaximumOutdoor]

Jeff is such a push over. He was not clear AT ALL and then got ran over by Dave

[@logantrafton3104]

It’s make me so angry that Ria looks like a damn genius on this game but in reality, everyone else is just so damn stupid

[@brettfitzgerald7827]

I dont know why you cant just admit ria is good at this

[@lynnkingpin]

Her name is never being brought up in any convo .. clearly shes running it why tell her

[@meatballsportstalk6297]

Ria is tuning the show the rest of them are just falling in line

[@lynnkingpin]

@@brettfitzgerald7827 she is ... They should took out Dave a long time ago

[@brettfitzgerald7827]

@@lynnkingpin dave is her strongest alliance

[@TylerNomadic]

Yeah, I mean the ending left a bad taste. However, even if Dave honored the agreement with Francis, Big Cat and Ria would've still voted out Francis so it's moot. Ria deceived Francis before the vote and Francis made the mistake of not playing it on himself. His desperation when the vote was tied wouldn't have helped. Now I'm excited to see how Dave plays the game out with the advantageous idol.

[@dylanmoore5138]

Francis trying to use his Harvard brain to try and create a loophole.

[@zachbrock9350]

Jeff WAS NOT CLEAR…Francis just got screwed!! That was BS!!!

[@randomidiot6278]

Now Francis knows how Hank felt

[@andrewsheridan24]

Jeff sucks too. Worst game host of all time

[@davemaynard3058]

HES TERRIBLE....WHY CANT WE VOTE JEFF OFF

[@Wuwux244]

Bro I learned Ria is a cold hearted person i the game and life lmao

[@brandoncarpenter9681]

There is no emotions in survivor. It’s a brutal game. It will probably be forgotten on how much of an overplay it was in a couple episodes. She has the numbers.

[@mnormplays]

It’s dumb that you can’t play an Idol after the tie since it would be useless in the first place if he played it

[@joemelchior5818]

If there is another vote- the revote the opportunity to use the idol should be allowed

[@shannonmary5993]

Wow. I don’t think I’m watching anymore after that. Francis got screwed over big time. Unbelievable!!

[@kobelover101]

I think Barstool will do ok without “shannonmary5993’s” support lmao adios! Learn how survivor works in the meantime!