Find Your Perfect Speaker: Which One Is the Best Fit for YOU?

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Erin's Audio Corner

Erin's Audio Corner

Күн бұрын

Here is a breakdown of the KEF Q11 Meta compared to the Polk R700 floorstanding speaker. Which one makes the most sense for your room?
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@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
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@Jason-sr3pr
@Jason-sr3pr 23 күн бұрын
Superb comparative review Erin. Really clear and comprehensive explanation of the differences between these two speakers, including their respective ‘use cases’. Please continue to do this kind of review as it reflects how many of us actually make purchasing decisions - comparing two or more reasonably similar types of speaker at reasonably similar prices. Thank you!!!
@ThomsonVarghese22
@ThomsonVarghese22 23 күн бұрын
I have the R700, Erin isn’t kidding about having to move them way off the wall. Otherwise it wasnt sounding right at all 😅. But once all the frustrating experimentation was done with spacing and eq and all, it sounds like heaven to me
@CarlosGomez-THX_1138
@CarlosGomez-THX_1138 23 күн бұрын
Ditto I love my R700 especially after running A1 Evo Neuron 1.6.
@SebastianH88
@SebastianH88 23 күн бұрын
Great explanation! We have the R700 and you got it right. I also want to mention that we have tried different apartments and rooms with them. Having lots of room on the sides of them sure sounds great, but the soundstage did not wander into the room as much as a "proper" placement, referring to the triangle, also, I don't ever push them up against the back wall. The way we have it set up now gives them the ability to make sounds "come from" the side walls as well, I mean like 120° soundstage from the listening position, and sounds in the middle of the room. It's amazing what can be done with proper placement. The sad part with the R700 is like mentioned, the beaming top end, but man, it sounds great sitting in the hot spot, everyone gets goosebumps!
@SebastianH88
@SebastianH88 23 күн бұрын
I forgot to mention that we do not eq, or use dsp when listening to music, only in movies. We have a REL 1508 and it takes over from 40hz and down.
@SebastianH88
@SebastianH88 23 күн бұрын
If anyone is tempted to try R700 in a smaller room, we did, but unfortunately the room was like a concrete bunker that we did what we could to stop the standing waves with bass traps and furniture. Comparing that sound with a more open room and normal walls, the speakers come more to life in the open because they want some power to wake up. It was not bad in the smaller room, still got good soundstage but with a hefty kick and rumble that quickly got overpowering, no subwoofer was needed 😅 What I'm trying to say is that the R700 sounds kinda good in a small room, especially if you like bass. In the open when they get more juice/volume they shake your body, even the midrange does that in a way, and the sound will be more "real/living". So Erin is right, as usual 😁🤘
@hondaphan4172
@hondaphan4172 23 күн бұрын
@@SebastianH88 Thanks for the feedback.
@BobbyBass-x6i
@BobbyBass-x6i 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I tried the Polk R700. The X-port bottom firing port and 2 8 inch woofers made the bass excellent with no placement issues in my listening room. The tweeter was rolled off if anything, not bright or boomy bass with each placed in a corner. I haven’t tried the KEF towers but did try the R3 Meta speakers with their matching stands. The KEF mids and highs were a little better but not even close in bass. The Polk had a buy, try and return for free policy so suggest trying first. With KEF you’d have to work with a local retailer like Best Buy to buy and try and return for free. Only way you’ll really know which sounds best to you in your room IMO. Rock on!
@marklloyd4153
@marklloyd4153 Күн бұрын
I don’t know if I’m wrong but I find it amazing that we are talking about a speaker released around 4 years ago that costs $1099 or onsale like mine for $879 . 🎉❤
@josephstark4944
@josephstark4944 23 күн бұрын
Super helpful. I’ve got the R700’s in a very large family room and love them. Close to the wall but EQ’d and bass passed to the subs. Side walls are about 6’ away on either side. Sounds great. Probably doing R200’s in my master bedroom though I’d like to hear those R3 Metas. Thanks again.
@MrCommunistGen
@MrCommunistGen 23 күн бұрын
Both great speakers at the price point, but very different use cases. Great explanation as to why you'd pick one over the other given your situation!
@whome8192
@whome8192 23 күн бұрын
I feel like you already said this. I have a wide room. The sidewalls are far away. The Polk R700s sound awesome.
@Boogie7910
@Boogie7910 23 күн бұрын
Hi Erin. I appreciate your reviews and detail very much. I'm trying to decide on the best speakers for a 2.1 movies/music setup in a medium room with uneven sidewalls and speakers will be close to the back wall. I prefer a warm or dark sound signature. My budget is $2k but could do up to 4k or so if there's a better bang for buck speaker that's worth it. I am interested in the Kef Q11 Meta after your review but I've also seen people say the Philharmonic BMR monintors punch way above their price point but saw you had issues with it. Also should I focus on bookshelf speakers instead of a tower since I'll have a sub? Thanks!
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 3 күн бұрын
Sorry I missed this earlier. Based on your sound preference and your room, I think the Kef makes more sense. I reviewed the BMR and it is a fantastic speaker, but I personally believe it needs a larger room because it radiates so widely that it impacts the imaging precision.
@Boogie7910
@Boogie7910 3 күн бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Hi, thanks for seeing it. I actually went a completely different direction and ordered the GR-Research Bullies
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 23 күн бұрын
I have a suggestion for a video. On the forum I frequent we have discovered that autamic room EQ systems can have very strange behavior regarding how the EQ is applied. For instance Dirac have a tendency to add up to 10dB at the high frequencies. Also how it manage the 200-500 Hz range also show strange corrections being applied. Even the lowest freq can get strange boosts that arent needed. I havent seen anyone do control measurements after these system corrections. It would make for an interesting and usedul video I think. What weve found is that one should(have to) do a control measurement of the corrected curve and that one probably have to manipulate the target curve (like pulling out those 10dBs mentioned) to actually arrive at the intended target curve.
@JJ-mustang5o
@JJ-mustang5o 20 күн бұрын
This type of video is great. Currently running bookshelves but when I get my living re-done I plan to upgrade to towers.
@hilde45
@hilde45 15 күн бұрын
Great review. I have to admit, I remain a huge fan of Fritz Heiler's Carbon 7 SE Mk. 2. He's a small maker and uses high quality Scanspeak drivers and a very elegant crossover. Music sounds positively intimate and live -- no harshness but plenty of details. Much better than speakers 3x the price in my experience.
@liamporter1137
@liamporter1137 21 күн бұрын
Great sharing. Thanks.
@feggelindh7584
@feggelindh7584 22 күн бұрын
Rally great information as a polk 700 owner. Thx Erin this just changed my hifilife. The video made me think as i have some problems with sharpness, centerimage and soundstage . I have mine well out and NO side Walls so should be ok. But like you said they are tricky with Treble. So i Was thinking that my Treble maybee shooting over me. So my back feets i extended them with the screws about 2 cm higher. Holey crap the sharpness is gone soundstage is perfect and the little basboom that on some songs was there is gone now i can crank it real high no issues at all. All the things that was frustration do i need a better dac bla bla is just gone. Use these with a advance paris 600 poweramp that is just amazing with these speaker ❤ These speakers just start flying with a good poweramp. They really need juice for sure .... Would be really cool to have a video with these speakers as we are many owners out there. Have a dac test what makes these speakers fly or not.
@rankcolour8780
@rankcolour8780 23 күн бұрын
I have a big room so wide it may as well not have side walls, that's why I chose the r700s.
@oohtob6685
@oohtob6685 23 күн бұрын
I have the Kef r3 metas for these reasons. Pretty small front room. Due to room shape I have same distance from the front wall but uneven from side wall's. Side wall's 1ft one speaker and 2ft to side wall with the other. I have no sound issues with this setup. 👍
@NosEL34
@NosEL34 23 күн бұрын
Good stuff. I used the R700's as living room mains for about a year. With 5 bands of PEQ & a sidewall of 6ft to heavy drapes & the other open to 10ft the R700's were very impressive to me. The R3 Meta with sub couldnt match the R700 overall to my ears. 1 or 2 aspects of the Meta's were better though.I had an interest in the Q11's because of the extra drivers but they don't look to be a good match with my room. They might even be too "dark" for me. I usually prefer that type of sound but going from the data it might be a bit much. Great job breaking the differences/measurements down for us. Very good comparison video.
@stickers6883
@stickers6883 23 күн бұрын
Cheers for answering my questions mate. Appreciate it
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 23 күн бұрын
I'd say, generally speaking, the polk for medium to large size rooms and the kef for small to medium size rooms.
@bridgey3706
@bridgey3706 23 күн бұрын
I have the Polk R600 and tried the R11 Meta. I liked the R11 better. Not a huge difference in sound, but I thought the R11 was better in midrange and highs. I didn’t keep the R11, because my room is too small. I went with the R3 Meta, which I like with a subwoofer. I would buy the R11 without hesitation.
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason
@TheTrueVoiceOfReason 23 күн бұрын
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: you have excellent taste in music. Had 6 out of the 7 immediately, but it took me a while to figure out the GOTG album cover. The 8th one is really hard, it looks like whatever shirt you're wearing. 😂
@peanutbutterjellyjam2179
@peanutbutterjellyjam2179 23 күн бұрын
Great advice, Erin. As always.
@tomreidy1237
@tomreidy1237 23 күн бұрын
Excellent video Erin.
@JohnSmith-qi6co
@JohnSmith-qi6co 8 күн бұрын
A big consideration when thinking about L and R is your choice of center speakers. Most center speakers have problems outlined in Erin's excellent video about why they can stink. KEF certainly knows how to make a pretty good center, so I'm starting from there with the Q6 Meta center and then getting the Q11's for timbre matching. Polk is prbably good too, but the KEF center is dragging me to the Q11's. Reasonable?
@MarkLloyd-yo4li
@MarkLloyd-yo4li 22 күн бұрын
I love my R700"s . The KEF"S LOOK NICE TO THOUGH
@billlashure2008
@billlashure2008 23 күн бұрын
Great video, Erin, Thank you!!!
@leonardiliong
@leonardiliong 23 күн бұрын
In my country considering the difference in price between R700 and Q11 Meta is more than $600 per pair, R700 seems to be much better deal so long as the room is adequately big.
@djmostwanted2001
@djmostwanted2001 23 күн бұрын
Awesome review Eric. I was really waiting for someone to compare these two. Another request would be the new Svs pb 17 ultra vs the jtr captivator rs1 would love to here you 2 cents on that
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 23 күн бұрын
Thanks Erin.. I was curious about the KEF-Polk differences on those 2 pairs of speakers myself. I happen to have a pair of Polks that definitely don't like to be closed in. Different model than the R700 though, but comparable to a degree. I wonder if Polk has always had a specific design philosophy for midprice floorstanders.
@OlaJustin
@OlaJustin 23 күн бұрын
Erin is killing it as usual! Upping the game of what a HiFi reviewer should be to called as such. Rock on!
@DeMorcan
@DeMorcan 23 күн бұрын
I wish every revieweer would discuss speaker placement. I cannot pull out 3 feet from the back wall and have wasted so much money on speakers that did not fit my room.
@paulc5389
@paulc5389 19 күн бұрын
Thanks Erin. Do you have any plans to review the Q4 on walls? Very curious to see how they actually perform.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 19 күн бұрын
Not currently. More than likely I will not because I don’t have my baffle wall set up that I used to have.
@IrenESorius
@IrenESorius 23 күн бұрын
Thx, Erin,, 👍‍‍🌟👍‍‍
@nathandaniels4823
@nathandaniels4823 23 күн бұрын
@ErinsAudioCorner Best fit for me? Bryston Mini T. Got them 6 months ago and it’s the first time in over a decade I have no interest in speakers I don’t own. Wide dispersion, beautiful soundstage, smooth on and off-axis drop off (horizontal AND vertical), usable bass well into the low ‘30s, and the best part: extremely low distortion to well over 100dB. I’m pretty sure I’ve found my forever speakers.
@NorthernAudionut
@NorthernAudionut 23 күн бұрын
Erin 1st i have to say i have watched plenty of your videos and have thoroughly enjoyed them all, however sometimes they can be over my head a little when you get technical however i also very much appreciate when you do as you are trying to further our technical understanding and only a few individuals such as yourself provide this so kudos to you for that!...However as someone less technically advanced as you i have a question without making matters all convoluted if you had a room treated with accousticly absorption panels specifically the side wall first reflections would this alter the effects of how either speaker performs in an open concept room versus one with four walls. once again thanks for the great videos
@richardgrant418
@richardgrant418 23 күн бұрын
Hey Erin, an * excellent comparison. Though,especially “on top of” your several reviews of Kef’s which have an EBS - leads to a request, please - Can you show us the measurements or simulation of the FR of any speaker with EBS * when they are positioned as you always recommend, * about a foot from the wall * That would be * very useful, because an EBS alignment is a characteristic of possibly all of the several Kef’s you’ve reviewed in the last year or so. this would “complete the picture” - what they are likely to sound like with your recommended placement Thanking you in anticipation and you always point out they’re intended to be positioned close to the wall where boundary reinforcement fills in the dip. In principle I think that’s a handy advantage, because if any speakers’ optimal position is closer to the wall they’re relatively out of the way. Vs eg the Polks which should be 2 feet further into your room ey’re more
@BehindthesafetyofLinux
@BehindthesafetyofLinux 23 күн бұрын
I'd like to hear the pink noise of the Polk, but it looks as if it would have a rather bright upper mid-range. This is just an octave shift from the problem in the KEF where it is bright in the lower mid-range. The Polk does have higher extension into the higher frequencies, which means the Polk could be brought around easier with a new crossover, where the KEF would be a challenge to fix. I would say the Polk, by measure, is the better speaker.
@Audio_Simon
@Audio_Simon 23 күн бұрын
IMO the Q11 is running in to the max output (sensitivity) of the small 19mm tweeter, trying to keep up with the 3 bass drivers. This gives it a top end that is a few dB lower than other models like the Concerto and especilly R3. Personally I'd choose the R3 Meta every day, but I have a small acoustically treated listening room and rarely crank the volume. (At least not in the way Erin clearly enjoys! ❤)
@ben23a31
@ben23a31 23 күн бұрын
I think they're both really good speakers. However, the Elac Uni-Fi UFR52's are a better comparison to the Kef's.
@sunwalker4017
@sunwalker4017 23 күн бұрын
excellent review. What do you think about Polk R600 in a smaller room close to a wall?
@oishikplays
@oishikplays 23 күн бұрын
What if you have a few meters on one side and 10 on the other? 😭
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
Hmmm... that's tough. I could answer that either way. I would honestly say that if you can try both in your room then that's the best way. On one hand I'd say the KEF because you won't have to worry about the brightness in the 4-6kHz region of the Polk and the suddenly narrowing dispersion it has in the HF. However, I could make the case that you'd be better off with the Polk and then EQ'ing the sidewall speaker down a bit in the HF to match it with the other speaker. Then again, you could do the same thing with the KEF and the KEF would actually work better with EQ because it has more consistent dispersion. Or, you'd use some HF absorption on the wall with the Polk and smooth out the dispersion on that side. Then there's the bass response; if you can bring the Polk off the wall then the bass may be smoother but the KEF can be placed closer to the wall if you don't have the space. Or... you use EQ to tame some of the boominess of the Polk on the one speaker. So, honestly, I don't know if there's a "for sure" answer here. This is a case of knowing what you're getting into and understanding how you can go about setting either speaker up for your room. TL;DR: It depends. LOL
@dan_hitchman007
@dan_hitchman007 23 күн бұрын
That's where you may need an acoustic gobo (or more than one) to create some symmetry in your imbalanced room at least near one of the two main speakers. A company like GIK have freestanding acoustic panels.
@losendos8963
@losendos8963 23 күн бұрын
Put a tower on one side and a bookshelf on the other, and do not hesitate to tell your friends, "Yeah - I'm a genius".
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
@ fantastic!
@danab7472
@danab7472 23 күн бұрын
I have a similar layout. I stagger the speakers slightly relative to the front wall (the speaker with the side wall further away is a bit closer to the front wall). That worked fairly well, but getting a better subwoofer (SVS SB-3000) with lots of controls, helped a lot. I have the polarity reversed, phase at 15 degrees, xover at 35Hz with a 12dB rolloff, room gain compensation at 30Hz (12dB rolloff).
@JoelHernandez-tz3vk
@JoelHernandez-tz3vk 21 күн бұрын
Wonder if I'd prefer the KEF for a narrow room then. It's about twice as long as it's wide.
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 18 күн бұрын
Yes narrow means more reflections which is a plus for the KEF
@antoniomarsicola8608
@antoniomarsicola8608 22 күн бұрын
Kef knows what they are doing with off-axis response, Polk R700 is sort of good "by chance" and the off-axis is a mess, but the sensation is that the company is not capable of the same level of R&D, many other speakers of them sound weird while Kef is constant in delivering excellent measured performance. The in room response must have a tilted down response.
@calvincurry8496
@calvincurry8496 23 күн бұрын
Erin the Cabasse Java vs the Kef Q 11 would be a good vs. Both are coaxal both a 3 ways ,Both reach deep and are similar. Ck it out!
@johnraven5093
@johnraven5093 23 күн бұрын
Nice review Eric ,any thoughts on the Sonus Faber lumina V greetings from the Netherlands
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 23 күн бұрын
another banger video
@Marco-cz7rb
@Marco-cz7rb 23 күн бұрын
Interesting that you said the polk is brighter i thought the polk was like the smoothest speakre to get. At least Andrew Robinson said that in his review
@williamkramer9069
@williamkramer9069 23 күн бұрын
I wish someone could find out what is going on with the discontinued Polk Legend line. A replacement would be nice.
@KarelSmout
@KarelSmout 23 күн бұрын
So the Kef for European / Asian listeners (hard walls, stone or concrete, in smaller rooms), and the Polk for American users (bigger rooms, cardboard walls). Or else the Polks will go boomy and shouty. As is often the reputation from American speakers like Zoo and Klipsch. Makes perfect sense to me considering the target audience. Reflected in the price: In EU the prices of the Polks are some 20% higher. Here the Polks are import. Over there the Kefs are
@kurtvanluven9351
@kurtvanluven9351 23 күн бұрын
The Polks. (Got a Denon and a set of Polk speakers.....$350 guy was moving to Thailand)
@kleankord
@kleankord 23 күн бұрын
Torn. I have no sidewalls and need to keep them close to the back wall
@jbergene
@jbergene 23 күн бұрын
You are awesome! didnt expect a full video
@rikhouben1019
@rikhouben1019 23 күн бұрын
@ErinsAudioCorner Do you think the same applies to the R500 vs Q7 Meta?
@xjetgaming4688
@xjetgaming4688 23 күн бұрын
You say the kef benefit from side walls and sidewall reflections. But what if i have side walls , but i have absobsion on them and a relative dead room with a lot of acustics ? Will the kef then lose its benefit of sidewalls reflections ? Thanks for all the videos you put out. Best channel about speakers :)
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 23 күн бұрын
You need diffusion panels not absorption if you're gonna use the KEF
@xjetgaming4688
@xjetgaming4688 23 күн бұрын
@ so diffusion on the sidewalls instead of absorbion ?
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 23 күн бұрын
@@xjetgaming4688 yes diffusion for the side walls and corners will need bass trapping
@xjetgaming4688
@xjetgaming4688 23 күн бұрын
@ Thanks for the tips man , been looking into the Kef q11 meta , but i Also want my room to sound good 👍🏻 and everybody is telling me to put absorbsion on the first reflection points , but with Kef q11 it seems thats an issue it seems
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 22 күн бұрын
@@xjetgaming4688 good luck with everything
@sadiquk6526
@sadiquk6526 10 күн бұрын
Hi. Please tell me which is the best kef q3 meta or polk r200?
@sadiquk6526
@sadiquk6526 6 күн бұрын
??
@sadiquk6526
@sadiquk6526 4 күн бұрын
Dude
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 3 күн бұрын
Elac Debut 3 DB63 rather than these two. Also Erin isn't going to see every comment
@markscreename
@markscreename 21 күн бұрын
I don't care much for the extended shelf response. I have the KEF R3 meta and the Polk R700s and others but the R700 are the first speakers I've owned that truly satisfied my love of deep bass. I have 4 subwoofers including a HSU VTF 3 mk5 but I often enjoy the Polks on their own.
@Muskyfishn84
@Muskyfishn84 23 күн бұрын
I assume you choose the r11meta over the 700 as well in the same situation as the q from this video?
@m_c_8656
@m_c_8656 23 күн бұрын
Id really like to know you assessment of ohm walsh 2000's or 1000s
@D00m3dHitm4n
@D00m3dHitm4n 23 күн бұрын
How does the KEF Q Concerto Meta compare to the Sonus Faber Lumina II?
@thillyard1
@thillyard1 23 күн бұрын
Erin I’ve been a fan and subscriber a long time. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you and all you do. I have a dedicated theater room 20’ deep, 13’ wide, with two rows of 3 seats (6 seats total). I have a an all JBL Studio setup. 3 JBL Studio 590’s behind an AT screen, and all the surrounds on the bed layer are JBL Studio 530’s (with my height Atmos speakers being JBL in ceiling coaxial speakers). It’s a 9.2.6 setup (two Monolith 15 subs). I’ve had the JBL’s for almost 9 years now and I’m starting to get the itch for something different. I like my speakers but I feel like I might something more dynamic. Kef is really interesting to me as I like the concentric design and I think they might be better suited to cover two rows of chairs. Any recommendation? $1K per main and maybe $300-500 for each surround is probably my budget limit. I have external Emotiva Amos to power everything.
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
I enjoy KEF. And I enjoy JBL. So either brand is quite good. I think with that budget you might want to look at the KEF Q Meta offerings. With coaxials you have more even dispersion horizontally but also vertically and this is important in multi-seat home theaters. When you say you have $1000 for your mains is that each or for the pair? If each, I say get the Q11 Meta or Q7 Meta. If pair then consider the Concerto Q Meta. It’s a bit more but it’s worth saving up for if you can swing it. A proper subwoofer will definitely be needed but I assume you already have one. Then you can get a matching center channel from the same lineup and use their smaller bookshelves for your surrounds. Personally, that’s what I would do giving your budget and current set up. There are certainly other options, but that’s the route I would go.
@thillyard1
@thillyard1 23 күн бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Thanks Erin. It would be $1K per speaker and I have an AT screen so I’d do three matching tower speakers for my mains. Really leaning Q11 Meta. I have two Monolith 15’s for bass so I’m covered there. Thank you so much :)
@dan_hitchman007
@dan_hitchman007 23 күн бұрын
How loud do you play your HT system? Near reference? I'm not sure if the lower KEF Meta line would be able to give you that kind of output with low distortion. At the price point you are dealing with you might consider the Ascend Acoustics CMT-340SE2's, which I was hoping Erin might run through its paces. Either way, they do have a good reputation, seem pretty neutral for their price point (moreso than the JBLs), rate higher than the Arendal THX monitors in tonality via Spinorama data (that's saying a lot since the Arendals cost quite a bit more), and can get fairly loud. If you do like horn loaded speakers with compression drivers and want to stick with that design again, take a look at Power Sound Audio. Either the Ascends or PSA's require subwoofers.
@andrewskaterrr
@andrewskaterrr 23 күн бұрын
I’m kinda in this boat too. I have 7x590s and 2x580 in the rear. The 590s have a decent wide dispersion, but obviously are brighter and need tamed, which I do with Dirac (JBL SDP-55). I’ve been wondering how these would compare, and was considering buying some to try. I heard Perlisten at MWAVW but they’re out of my price range, I’ve been told Revel were side by sided and people like Revels more and I like their measurements. I heard also heard Ascendo at MWAVE and liked them, but they aren’t as wide dispersion. So hard to pick.
@DDF1408
@DDF1408 23 күн бұрын
Once you have good eq (and any serious modern hifi should) then extra bass out of the speakers is a net benefit because then you can eq it down and then get free power from your amp because the eq significantly lowers power demands from the amp in the frequency range of eq cut. Because in the bass these are all minimum phase phenomena, any ringing from the speaker due to its boosted bass goes down to normal because it's the combined response that determines the ringing, and the compression of the bass goes down because there is less current heating the voice coil due to the eq cut. We keep designing systems like it's 1975 (ebs is a dinosaur) , it's time to rethink audio system design for the eq era
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
Yep!
@marcgallant5270
@marcgallant5270 23 күн бұрын
Erin review: The polks have exaggerated deep bass extension, move then away from the wall. Other reviewers: The polks have extra meat on bones, vava-voom.. extra weight.... they sound big... yeah they just sound big! The sense of scale just can't be explained. lol 😂
@rcstudio7026
@rcstudio7026 23 күн бұрын
How about Kef Q11 meta vs Mofi source point 8.Both is around the same price.
@johnyang799
@johnyang799 23 күн бұрын
sourcepoint8
@lau1812
@lau1812 19 күн бұрын
Cut the long story short, the Polk is for large rooms , the Kef for small rooms
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 19 күн бұрын
Not entirely. You still need to know how to place the speakers for desired bass. And you may still have a preference for the speaker spaciousness that one provides over the other (and even this varies depending on frequency).
@thehighcontemplator2200
@thehighcontemplator2200 23 күн бұрын
Good advice.
@MichelLinschoten
@MichelLinschoten 23 күн бұрын
Seems to me that erin hard walls or something, because I've haven't heard polk as being bright at allc
@frankloaf9510
@frankloaf9510 23 күн бұрын
The R700 seems like a less expensive Revel F208.
@harryburnett7086
@harryburnett7086 23 күн бұрын
Not optimal , I love hard rock , metal now what
@riffraff9000
@riffraff9000 23 күн бұрын
I'm cheap; Dayton Audio Classic T65 towers for the win. lol.
@marct9587
@marct9587 23 күн бұрын
Unless the Polk R700 ring radiator tweeter is better than the ring radiator tweeter in my Polk LSiM706c center speaker, I would not be interested in the R700. Unless I am right on axis with that 706c tweeter, there is a big drop in the highs and the clarity of dialog.
@garganega
@garganega 23 күн бұрын
GR Research Brute.
@Static_Age
@Static_Age 23 күн бұрын
Dang, KEF is getting their moneys worth paying you off! /s
@richardgrant418
@richardgrant418 23 күн бұрын
I hope you’re joking
@KofiBaffour-t8o
@KofiBaffour-t8o 23 күн бұрын
​@@richardgrant418that's what the /s at the end is for... Indicated sarcasm
@richardgrant418
@richardgrant418 22 күн бұрын
@ ah, thanks for telling me👍
@jonfoss3437
@jonfoss3437 23 күн бұрын
I have an old milaukee radio that puts alot of speakers to shame
@jhh764
@jhh764 23 күн бұрын
Trying to decide between Paradigm founder 100 or Philharmonic HT tower. Wrote this Kef off because I thought it was too cheap but you may have changed my mind. I like to have my speakers like 8 inches from the wall and facing straight
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
I can’t speak to the Founder 100 but those Philharmonic speakers are nice! They’re a different speaker than this KEF. Wider dispersion and different tuning profile. Hard to say which makes more sense for your setup and preferences, without knowing more. But I can vouch for either of them being good speakers.
@jhh764
@jhh764 23 күн бұрын
@ErinsAudioCorner Well I listen to a lot of bass music so I have a couple KEF KC92 subs that I'm pairing with and I like to play pretty loud for the most part. I'm coming from a Triangle Borea 8 so I know either would be a big improvement! Thanks for all the great content btw
@Roddy451
@Roddy451 23 күн бұрын
Wile E. Coyote says you are getting paid by Acme.
@BarryH54
@BarryH54 23 күн бұрын
Why isn't the title "find the best speaker for you" There is no "perfect speaker..."
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
Because this video is more than just about these particular two speakers. It’s about using data to help you choose the best speaker for your situation. And for many that would be the last speaker they may buy ever or for quite a while. That’s what it’s “your perfect” and not “the world’s most perfect”. 👌
@BarryH54
@BarryH54 20 күн бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Thank you Erin for the explanation!
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 23 күн бұрын
multiple people 3:14 :) our you could say many humans :P
@dentman67
@dentman67 23 күн бұрын
Funny. Every other reviewer says the folks are very laid back and maybe not bright enough for many folks. Funny
@ErinsAudioCorner
@ErinsAudioCorner 23 күн бұрын
Maybe they’re listening in large rooms. Maybe they’re half deaf. 🤷‍♂️
@youngwolfaxl
@youngwolfaxl 23 күн бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner or they compare them to even brighter speakers. I have Klipsch RP-600M and Polk R700, and the RP-600M are brighter.
@dentman67
@dentman67 23 күн бұрын
@ErinsAudioCorner Could be. That's I take reviews with a grain of salt. Your reviews are high on my list of being valid.
@NoNameStorm
@NoNameStorm 23 күн бұрын
Мне очень не нравится концепция KEF в плане басов. Их концепция плавного спада баса после 100Гц, которая присутствует у них почти во всей линейке. Они рассуждали так, что мы этим компенсируем подъём за счёт комнаты и тем самым выводим АЧХ в ровную линию. Интересная идея, не новая и провальная. Потому, что помимо рум-гейна есть обратная вещь - кривые равной громкости. Басы сильно падают при прослушивании на громкости ниже, чем реальная громкость звучания при звукозаписи. А это всегда так, разве что только рок слушают на громкостях близких к концертным. А значит бас будет по ощущениям всегда слабее, чем он есть в реальности. И Кефы его в данном случае ещё дополнительно ослабляют. Как результат - звучат они довольно сухо, по ощущениям баса не хватает. И напротив, акустика с обратной концепцией, где эта особенность учтена, типа Tannoy 637, звучит на невысокой громкости (нормальной) полновесно и потрясающе. Если навалить, то баса, конечно, лишнего, но так же никто не слушает.
@bridgey3706
@bridgey3706 23 күн бұрын
I have the Polk R600 and tried the R11 Meta. I liked the R11 better. Not a huge difference in sound, but I thought the R11 was better in midrange and highs. I didn’t keep the R11, because my room is too small. I went with the R3 Meta, which I like with a subwoofer. I would buy the R11 without hesitation.
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