Hardware Store Muzzle Loading Pistol Part 1

[@thebeyondwordser]

i recently met a few hipsters at a bar who loved shakey graves. It was quite interesting when i explained i learned about him from a video about a man building a gun in the garage. Excellent work btw.

[@بلوتبلوت-ظ7خ]

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[@aaronmonico8574]

Rewatching to years later. This is what got me into them. Good times

[@snowscape]

I love this story haha shakey graves is a amazing

[@SugarcreekForge]

So cool!

[@rustylugnut755]

I love this build. Reminds me of my youth spent building the things that 12 year olds were restricted in having. Guns, cannons and rockets! Oh my! The local hardware store was my constant source of imagination as well as materials. Now I have a prototype machine shop. I know what I'm doing in my retirement!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you for letting me know that and leaving me an encouraging comment. I suspect we would be friends!

[@danieljones6617]

Awesome work, sir. I've been wanting to build one for a long time now. I live in Germany, so this is the only type of pistol, I'm allowed to own, without going through the hassle of getting a license

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for your comment. I am really glad that you like the video. Good luck to you! Cheers, Tim

[@bluemoondiadochi]

...when it's way too late and you need to sleep but the video is so very satisfying and calming so you just continue to watch.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha - glad to be the pilot of that airplane for you, bluemoondadochi. Sleep well. :-)

[@maplehouseknives]

A true master craftsman indeed. Can't wait for part 2! Thanks for sharing Tim! Greetings from Germany!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Maplehouse Knives and Bushcraft Danke mein Freund! Ich hoffe, es geht dir gut :-) You are very welcome

[@kiwiflare]

Not the first time I've heard this song but last time I heard it I was really into it at like 3am...turns out it was on THIS video and I'm still debating doing a build like this & ended up at your video I'm so happy I did because not only did you help me nail down the song/artist but you also helped me figure out exactly what action I want to use for me beautiful (almost free) gun to keep in the barn at the summer home...cheap enough that if it breaks/dies then I don't feel bad yet impractical enough that if it goes missing I also don't feel bad since it doesn't use center or rimfire bullets so if some idiot DOES try that, it'll go click without doing anything Truly your build is amazing to look at

[@SugarcreekForge]

I am so glad to help with both :-) Thanks for your encouragement.

[@sergeantbigmac]

Great work, I like how literally everything on the gun is from hardware parts. Just goes to show how simple firearms are.... And I like your idea of 2 pipes inside each other, which solves any questionable strength issues. Please make more gun videos like this!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+sergeantbigmac Thanks for the kind words. It was fun to make. I am sure that I will mess around with some other gun making in the future. I will post them for sure.

[@tibeh4178]

2 pipes inside each other?

[@deetoxinz7252]

Omg the shakey graves song I love them!!! Awesome build!!

[@grenouillesscent]

I think I will use an extension spring like you did next time because it reduces the parts count, and the operation of the spring doesn’t have to count on a sloppily made spring guide. Good idea.

[@pyrobunny5155]

I love these videos because not only do you make some awesome stuff, but you show off some great techniques that are incredibly useful. Thanks for another awesome video!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+pyrobunny Thanks for the kind words and for taking time to leave a comment. I appreciate it. :-)

[@tylerb293]

Man gotta say if u just do this as a hobby, then fine job, u might look into gun smithing as a fall back career, that lock work was the best hardware store style ive seen

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for the kind words, Tyler. That is a great compliment. Have a good week!

[@akcustom7838]

very cool build, I watched part 1 and 2.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy. I am glad you liked it.

[@--rashid--1956]

@Ak Customs:I really like your videos and I would love to see new ones coming, especially for firearms making.

[@AJKungFuu]

that's bad ass tim, can't wait for part 2.

[@SugarcreekForge]

+A.J. Rusinek Thanks, A.J. :-)

[@professorpewpuew]

That's in ingenious way of carving a barrel channel and well engineering the lock. I hope that coil spring will be strong enough to set off caps!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+mark3smle Thanks, buddy. It worked out good. I have fired off some caps with it and they went "bang". But I had some misfires and will be using a stronger spring.

[@VS-ff4ez]

Awesome build and good music... this video was a win win! Well done

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for your kind words. I am glad that you liked it.

[@sonsofmccormick1296]

Excellent job man! On to part 2 now... 👍

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy. I apprectiate it :-)

[@Llamadosalvaje]

Beautiful art! Congrats!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, NomadA! I appreciate you taking time to leave me a comment.

[@justincosgrove9782]

Freaking awesome choice of music, there's a group from NZ with a similar sound. Love the pistol.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Justin!

[@큰괭이]

Thank you very much. I'm going to make a toy musket(percussion) rifle for my son's cosplay. (My son is going to play a 20th centry Korean empire (1897 ~ 1910) soldier at the cosplay party) I had found the perfect drawing of trigger-hammer set for toy gun. Thank you again (sorry, that My english is poor).

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome. That is very interesting and I understand your English very well. Good luck to you and to your son :-)

[@adolphsfather4834]

Yer English is better than mine.

[@ianbastienoutdoors1801]

Better grammar than most.

[@thomasdillon6838]

Very interesting! I've been wanting a pirate pistol on the cheap. This could really be decorated with carvings and inlays to fill that niche.

[@SugarcreekForge]

I think that could work very nicely as a pirate pistol!

[@delbertplouff9266]

This ole boy can build I could watch this all day

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for the kind words, Delbert. I appreciate it

[@Dav5529]

My dad on his way to Home Depo to get the exact same place as this guy

[@RobbsHomemadeLife]

This is how YT used to be. I loved the music and want to make this pistol. I subscribed twice.

[@SugarcreekForge]

I know exactly what you mean, Robb :-) Thanks for the sub!

[@triumphmanful]

Looks great, but how did you put a breech plug on the end of that pipe ? That's where the most pressure is when the powder goes boom ! From the look of your jigs, I would say you have done this before. Unlike so many you tubes that fumble around unprepared , showing how to do something. You wasted no time and I appreciate that immensely ! Thanks again ! I am a Gunsmith (retired) and Firearms Safety Instructor, (teaching safe hunting to kids and new bees). Black Powder is one of my specialties !

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

That is really super. I am ready for part 2.

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Amateur Redneck Workshop Thanks :-)

[@mccullenj]

Always impressed with your various talents

[@SugarcreekForge]

+McCullen Knives Thanks, Jeremy. You are very kind, buddy. Have a great rest of the weekend.

[@oshiezz]

sick dude

[@Jebochannel]

Wow, looks really amazing! Can´t wait for part two. :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Jebochannel Thanks for taking the time to let me know that.

[@sebadioli2665]

@@SugarcreekForge Man, it looks amazing, and i would love to copy this project of yours, but the links in the description seem to take to a deleted page...is there any chance you would mind to share the drawings of your parts again?

[@Graysonemory]

good video! I love watching people work and not listing to them ramble on about how they made it

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@craigchartier877]

Great video. very inspiring. Anyone ever tell you that you look exactly like Barry Corbin from Northern Exposure. Thanks for putting this up.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Craig! I will have to look up Barry Corbin :-)

[@yaniekwensvoort995]

could you put out a link to the template you used for the mechanism?The pistol looks great!

[@SugarcreekForge]

drive.google.com/file/d/0B08bJJ0V4Kn3Q3Zfc2swd2NuNGc/view?usp=sharing

[@yaniekwensvoort995]

thanks man, keep up the awesome work!

[@yugio1971]

That's really cool can't wait for part 2..

[@SugarcreekForge]

+paul Turnock Thanks, Paul

[@bluesboydude]

Thank you for the drawings of the parts! I was looking for this for some time :-)

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome :-)

[@SugarcreekForge]

It is about 10mm in real life :-)

[@69Matjaz]

Hello from Slovenia.An interesting project.Can somebody send me drawings of the parts?Thank you.

[@bluesboydude]

It's in the description mate!

[@69Matjaz]

Thank you. I found a link to the description.This link does not work.Is there any other way to get drawings?

[@captainkenzie6873]

This is something i can technically own here in the UK so long as it's modelled off of a pre 18th century firearm. I probably will never build one but i just thought I'd let other people know that as long as you don't threaten anyone with it the police can't legally take it from you.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for that comment and for letting UK people know that! Have a great week

[@lawrencethemain3343]

ahh hahaaa i love how you drill bored where the barrel goes instead of hand carving/file it. genius!!!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks so much, buddy :-) It really worked well

[@TheFirearmEnthusiast]

Wish my crappy store had hydraulic tubing and springs.

[@SugarcreekForge]

lol

[@JohnDoe-np6lb]

we meet again

[@iamkarma4819]

TheFirearmEnthusiast how many springs do they have? mine has about 4

[@SugarcreekForge]

Patrick and TFE, you should shop in Sugarcreek, OH. Little town, big hardware store :-)

[@jonathanstevens9652]

SugarcreekForge how much was the entire build?

[@vonthrasher7809]

Guauuuu!!! This magnificent creative mind has earned a 👍🏻

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha - thanks so much for your kind words and I love that I earned a thumbs up!

[@margovallen]

Enjoying the music.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks :-)

[@garybiggs9010]

Thinking about building my own. The price for the kits are insane.!

[@imhigh0013]

What a great hardware store. Home Depots are shitty. This one is organized and clean.

[@SugarcreekForge]

True. It is an old school hardware store in my little town

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks. It is a nice old school small town store. The people are helpful too.

[@tedrobinson5743]

Thank you,you did A Nice I've made A 50 & 45 from kit's I think I'll try your way next.Can't wait for#2

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Ted

[@mps81a]

That's a cool project Tim!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Ægir Bladeworks Thanks :-)

[@kurisushiro7377]

Song? And btw I followed ur every step now I’ve got four of em fully working thnx!

[@SugarcreekForge]

That is so cool Kurisu! Do you have photos posted anywhere on line? I would love to see them.

[@rigemortis]

Nice trigger and hammer build.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you!

[@harrylime8077]

Pipe in different schedules, lengths and inside diameters, springs of multiple sizes and some look tempered. What hardware store do you patronize? All I have around here is Lowes, Home Depot and Ace. They have nothing like that selection.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hi Harry - I live in a small town with a hardware store that has been around for a long time. They serve a lot of contractors in our area and have a lot of cool stuff. There is actually an even better one in a small town about 5 miles from me. They are disappearing fast with the advent of the large stores you mentioned...

[@mrfrostie1740]

cant wait to make this

[@fattboyzz1355]

looking forward to the finish up on this :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Joseph Barge Thanks - I am finished with it. I just need to take it out and test fire it.

[@josephthomas8318]

Funny thing is that looks like the type of hardware store that still sells guns and ammo

[@SugarcreekForge]

Unfortunately, they do not... but the old hardware store in town (now closed) did. Happy New Year

[@kaziklu79]

Awesome! Can't wait for part II :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

+kaziklu79 Thanks! Coming soon :-)

[@kaziklu79]

:)

[@juanmanuelmarchioli]

Love it!... dont forget to make a knife brother for that fine pistol. Stay safe ;-)

[@SugarcreekForge]

+juan manuel marchioli Hi Juan! Good idea :-)

[@JohnSmith-dd1bl]

With a bit more sanding and a bit of varnish, that could be a very nice firearm.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, John

[@BigD-jc6rj]

What kind of bandsaw is that? By the way, I absolutely LOVE the drill as the poor man’s lathe. For all the folks who want to try this at home, be sure to wear safety glasses. Getting a piece of metal stuck in your eye is NOT a fun experience. I had one hit my cornea, missing my pupil by about a millimeter. The eye doctor put my head in what was basically a vise, and used some special tools to pull it out. She said that she picks foreign objects out of people’s eyes at least 2 to 3 times per month.

[@SugarcreekForge]

It is a Milwaukee porta band. A little metal cutting bandsaw. I am glad that you liked that homemade tool, buddy. And, that is a very good warning for all of us!

[@vasilybasyuk3908]

Very nice video ! I'm looking exactly that ....

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hi Vasily. Thank you for leaving me a comment, my friend. I am glad that you liked the video :-)

[@duybear4023]

Old school! None of that new fangled 3D printer nonsense...

[@SugarcreekForge]

I heard a guy say that his anvil is a 3D printer for steel :-)

[@cb3391]

Well done

[@Aodenge]

I enjoyed both videos nice work and thanks for the template

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome, Eddie

[@darkswami]

Careful with those long sleeves and that beltsander!

[@mr.meowgi9876]

Yoink

[@owainrichards4372]

Really? he would have to grind through his hand up to his wrist before it caught the belt

[@Paid2Win]

@@owainrichards4372 or just accidentally touch his shirt to the belt while adjusting his stance :| Not trying to be a prick, just don't wear gloves or long sleeves when working with rotary tools. Seen too many guys lose shit to ever do that again.

[@Robert_Keel]

Nicely done!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Robert :-)

[@CapnJackSB]

Before you try making this lock from plan, build a mock up out of wood and try it. If you try to do a direct copy of of the lock parts from the drawing...Nothing fits and it will not work without a lot of extra filing. Building these parts is a, "Ball Buster" unless you have access to a metal cutting bandsaw.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for the comments CapnJackSB. If you made a lock, I would love to see it. I hope you post a video. I think making a mock-up so that you have a template to scribe around is a very good idea for making anything with small parts by hand. The parts are drawn to fit together perfectly, but like you said... a ball buster if you don't have a metal cutting bandsaw. Also, having a belt grinder makes it very easy to grind exactly to the lines of the drawing. Have a great weekend.

[@dayum_taytum6989]

man your a great tinker and and awesome blacksmith good job... liked the vid

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks very much, buddy. I appreciate the encouragement. :-)

[@Odood19]

I appreciate the folk music here

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for letting me know.

[@glauciogv5225]

Nice music. Good work !

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Glaucio GV :-)

[@clintonthe4th245]

Shakey Graves are great!

[@SugarcreekForge]

:-)

[@krb5292]

No mention of what caliber it is. Guessing 50-ish, since 1/2inch black nipples are common. ( I used to work in a hardware store similar to the one you showed. Pity it went out of business.)I was wondering on that first shot of the square tubing. Then I thought, "hmm...heat, twist, rifling? Eh, maybe not."

[@SugarcreekForge]

I shot a .357 bullet out of it and it was too small for the barrel. I am guessing that it is in 40-ish range. The inner barrel liner narrows the barrel. Have a great week!

[@ElenaIorga-l8o]

Excellent work. Can you give us the templates for the mechanism parts?

[@SugarcreekForge]

Check the description for the link

[@Hissatsu5]

Cool looking forward to the next video

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Hissatsu5 Thanks. I hope you will like it.

[@kinnikuzero]

You sir are a genius!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha, thank you, Ash. It was fun to make :-)

[@cjm9860]

I think I'm more impressed by your damn shop dude

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks :-)

[@CUBETechie]

need building plans for example the hammer and trigger a 1:1

[@SugarcreekForge]

Look through the comments on both videos for a link

[@geomondiale1768]

Wow, a real hardware store

[@SugarcreekForge]

;-)

[@knifenforge]

that is awesome Tim

[@SugarcreekForge]

+knifenforge Thanks, knifenforge :-)

[@the_fixer2593]

This is a very late comment, and one that will almost certainly never get seen; but 1) amazing job. and 2) is it possible to adapt this design to make a muzzle loading musket? got to prepare for the zombie apocalypse somehow. Joking of course, but it making one promises to be great fun.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hey anyone named "The Fixer" needs to be listened to in my book. 1) Thanks very much for taking the time to leave an encouraging comment. Cheers 2) Yes. The same lock would work equally well in a musket. I happen to know that zombies give a wide berth to a man carrying a musket he made with his own hands! They know he is self-sufficient and not to be messed with :-)

[@nonamemcgillicutty9585]

I love Shakey Graves

[@SugarcreekForge]

d(-_-)b

[@ajeje1996]

The quality of this build is insane... great job on the wooden stock, that jig was a really smart idea!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for your kind words! It was fun making it.

[@thegreatoutdoors7610]

Do you know the inside diameter of the pipe? The video is awesome brother amazing craftsmanship.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for your kind words. I do not remember the exact inside diameter, but I am guessing it is in the neighborhood of .40

[@sosteve9113]

very Nice Made,well done sir

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you!

[@johnted6843]

Great video!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy!

[@paullytle246]

Honesty looks like something from the English civil war

[@SugarcreekForge]

Great eye, Paul! I loved the pistols in "A Field In England" a movie set in that time.

[@troystutsman1400]

Hello: I just found your channel and subscribed...! Thank you for sharing this information with us. Have a great day and Be Blessed...!

[@claytonharper2323]

Great work! Can't wait to see it fire!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Clayton Harper Thanks, Clayton :-)

[@texaslonestarrider]

That is awesome Tim! Can't wait for part 2! BTW: love the music with the video!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+lonestarrider Thanks, Rex!!

[@Preyhawk81]

Can the same mechanic used in an rifle?

[@SugarcreekForge]

Yes for sure!

[@granch4211]

Looks awsome

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you sir :-)

[@Two_cans]

So sorry for the late comment but I have been meaning to try this for myself. The link for the template isn't working. Any way you can send them my way? Also love the video and great content.

[@SugarcreekForge]

A comment anytime is nice to get, buddy. Thanks very much for the encouragement. Let me see what I can do with the link.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Try the link now and see if it works

[@Two_cans]

@@SugarcreekForge The link works, thanks a million. Looking forward to your next video.

[@SugarcreekForge]

@@Two_cans Yay! Thanks, buffy

[@iowafarmhandonajohndeere5902]

I’m going to do a project like this pistol and a rifle model

[@blargiefarg93]

Mind furnishing a list of required tools? I'd like to start building up my supply and skills so I can eventually do my own build.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hmmm... Drill, bits, files, bandsaw, grinder, would be a good start.

[@timsherman9908]

do you think i could do this but as a flintlock instead, that could be one of your videos perhaps. Also what caliber is that ball

[@KilnFirelink]

How thick is the steel for the mechanism and what type did you use? was it mild or something like 1060 or 1095

[@RMOFILMS]

Thanks for all. 😀

[@jefft5175]

Awesome video from a bad ass dude. You got yourself one more sub. Keep the cool videos coming!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha - You are too cool. Thanks man. I subbed you and I am going to bug you to upload more videos. Have a great weekend, buddy.

[@jefft5175]

haha thanks ! You too!

[@asznam]

Great work, Tim! Nice music choice also

[@SugarcreekForge]

+asznam Thanks, my friend! I am glad that you like it.

[@LayZeeDawg]

Very cool. Is that The Gray Havens or someone else?

[@navalnegi7478]

+MrHeraclioFournier hj kg gg hi

[@dickscratcher3040]

really ? the gun is great , the music is utterly shite

[@2dividedby3equals666]

Absolutely awesome!!!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+2dividedby3 :-) Thanks!

[@FUNSTUF456]

ooh, love shakey.

[@firstnamelastname8865]

If you'd like to make a slightly better trigger /hammer, just use a piece of leafspring

[@THX..1138]

Bonus points for the Shakey Graves sound track :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks :-)

[@bluesboydude]

what is the thickness of the steel you used for the mechanism? 6 mm?

[@SugarcreekForge]

Yes, sir. Some approximately 6mm and some 3mm

[@Preyhawk81]

Could an Doublebarrel Percussion Shotgun made with this template?

[@hansvonburgun-hc1gh]

What kind of pipe did you use for the barrel

[@theodorekaczynski8147]

I thought of putting one pipe inside the other to make up for the thinness, I didn't think it would actually work

[@grenouillesscent]

How do you secure the tumbler and hammer to the axle? I don't understand how you drilled the holes for the pins that secure the tumbler and hammer to the axle, while simultaneously maintaing the proper orientation of the two parts, and then inserting the pins. The instructions for the Jaco Kentucky BP rifle on scribd do not go into detail on this process. If you are uncomfortable divulging instructions on the construction of this gun, I would appreciate tips on how to fix two propellers blades in an identical configuration with an identical process. This would be for a model airplane I am working on.

[@SugarcreekForge]

I drilled through tumbler first. Then I assembled the lock, mounted the tumbler in the correct place and clamped it securely with a pair of vice grips. Then I drilled through the hole in the tumbler into the axle and then pinned it.

[@grenouillesscent]

@@SugarcreekForge Thanks. I could see that you would clamp the tumbler to the lock-plate to secure its proper orientation, but how did you stop the axle from moving around?

[@SugarcreekForge]

@@grenouillesscent The vice grip is pressing the head of the axle against the lock plate on one side and the tumbler on the other. It didn't take much to keep it from spinning.

[@SugarcreekForge]

@@grenouillesscent The vice grip is pressing the head of the axle against the lock plate on one side and the tumbler on the other. It didn't take much to keep it from spinning.

[@grenouillesscent]

SugarcreekForge I see. Thanks for the info.