Bad Boy Scag ExMark Kubota Best Zero Turn Mowers 2024!

[@resdid805]

Excellent video! I had thought I’ve watched every mower video available. Then I found yours. You covered every single thing I wanted. And you were unbiased. Gem of a video and info. Thank you for providing it to us!❤️

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@kylemichaelson7878]

Sure do appreciate the time spent throwing something like this together.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, it was a lot of work but we do what we can to help others and I thought it was neat with all the data that we received. Sometimes it’s hard to get partial opinions on Equipment these days with all the sponsorships, etc. when we work with a company we pride ourselves and being honest and impartial.

[@DLTJR1959]

Saw your first video a long time ago and just now saw your 2nd video. 6 years ago we bought a Snapper Pro s200xt. 350 trouble free hours now. I'm happy. Fabricated deck, Kawasaki engine, 2-5 gallon tanks, 5400 hydro gear units, etc. Great mower. Not a lot of pub on them. Ferris unit without the suspension system at a lower cost. Great video. Thanks.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You’re welcome, I’m sure you got a great deal on that mower too! The costs have gone up a lot!

[@scottmurray2961]

I'm on my second year with my Toro. 50 inch residential, easy ride mower, and I absolutely absolutely love it. That suspension system is phenomenal. I feel like a kid riding a go cart. You can't hardly get me off of it.I absolutely love to mow

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Toro does make a nice mower. We went with the Bad Boy Rogue and a Yakta YXR710.

[@davidshay4773]

I just bought a bad boy rogue because I was so impressed with the mower deck and the suspension the whole mower was well thought out and designed 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I bet you love it David, that rogue was a sweet riding mower for sure!

[@abdonelectric957]

thought about the bad boy and liked it, but just couldnt get past the kohler motor, after 2 kohlers blown motors ,one with 56 hours and one with 159 hours ,i just couldnt go back to one, but your kohler is probably heavy duty made to last longer

[@carryharris4204]

YOU ARE WELCOME, A VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO, SHOULD HAVE HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT BUYING A NEW ZERO TURN MOWER

[@ChesterGingrich]

Nice, now that’s a solid dealer! Glad to hear that they made things right.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Us too!

[@midmojimmy]

I have a 2016 Badboy Maverick with a 60" deck. We love it so much we just bought a 2024 Maverick today. We have a huge property to mow, so we just cut our mowing time in half. For the price point and the quality, its hard to beat a Badboy.

[@michaeldavis6550]

I tryly couldn't agree more. I currently own a ariens Ikon X & it has been a truly great machine. My next machine will most likely be a Bad Boy.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Awesome, love hearing stories like this. Bad Boy is high on our list.

[@gman4802]

Great video. I've owned 4 grasshoppers with great results. I know they are a bit pricey but if I have any problems I can call the factory and get it resolved. They have a great tech support. I'm going on 74 guess I'm hooked. Also its a family owed company and I believe that helps a lot.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I have heard a lot of good things about the Grasshoppers.

[@jdeack]

We bought a Bad Boy ZT Elite Commercial 9 years ago with the Kawasaki motor. This thing is a rock! I will never buy a different brand. No issues (non self induced) . This mower is solid. We currently have 670 hours on it and it still starts immediately. We also have the air ride seat which makes a huge difference.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

John, that’s awesome, and yes the air ride seats make a HUGE difference!

[@donaldd.293]

I bought a new scag cheetah in 2014 have done all services myself oil, hydro oil, blades, grease, and air filters, did replace battery 2 years ago just because. It’s been 10 years of mowing 2 acres and some time the lady down the roads place. I have had zero problems with this mower. It has never fail to start.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I was really impressed by the Scagg, it is a well-built machine, and definitely on our shortlist.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

thats why we bought a kubota love the beast plus the best quality plus ac cab options avaliable and parts are cheapest and affordable

[@tonygough8713]

I have a gravely pro master 260 with a 27 hp Kawasaki engine. Bought it new in 2011 and it has 890 hrs on it and it has been basically problem free. A bolt fell off the drive pulley and I had to replace the bolt and pulley last 27:34 summer and had the mechanic put new belts on and that’s the first set of belts I have ever replaced, still had plenty of life left in them. I love the Gravely mower and dealer. Good luck on your choice from N C I mow a little over 3 acres .

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Gravely definitely makes a nice mower. We checked them out as well.

[@robertlee6594]

Recently upgraded from a husqvarna Z254 54” 20HP Briggs that i used for two years and 340+ hours later it started to fall apart, And recently bought a Bad Boy ZT ELITE 60” 26HP Kohler and so impressed! Amazing mower, amazing accessories available for the mower, amazing quality for the price, crispy cut quality!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I agree, we now have a Nad Boy Rogue and a Yakta both awesome mowers.

[@GreggMPlahy]

I would like to know during the test drive portion what make and model plus trans and motor info with mfg warranty. Thank You.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We will try to get more of that info out in our videos this summer.

[@markwebb6593]

I bought my Bad Boy Maverick HD in May of 2023. 54” deck with the Honda 688cc EFI engine. Added LED lights and mounted on the ROPS bar. Added the orange hardtop sunshade. All said and done $10,000 This has been an exceptional mower. Zero issues. Has the Hydro Gear 3400 transaxles. Love the air ride seat. Cuts very even and a very miser fuel use. I could mow for hours and not get tired. I could sell Bad Boy mowers because I love mine that much. You get what you pay for.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We picked up a Bad Boy Rogue and love it. We also have a Yakta YXR710 both awesome mowers. We are uploading some test videos soon!

[@DonaldAJr]

I just made a detailed comment on your other video, I have no idea how KZbin even thought I would want to see it. But my dad and I both love our Gravely Zero Turn Mowers.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we appreciate the comments. I do my best to reply to everyone and I am a little behind due to the popularity of some of these videos. Gravely definitely makes a nice mower.

[@toddfordahl4419]

2 months ago, I purchased a Bad Boy Maverick HD. I did my research, and after talking with a couple friends that run commercial grass cutting businesses, it came down to Scag or Bad Boy. As a bonus, the local dealer was running a special, buy the mower, and get a free Bad Boy weedeater and manual mulch flap for the mower. I have about 7.5 hrs on the mower, so far so good. The weedeater is amazing. I own 2 high end Echos, and the Bad Boy is my new favorite.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We really liked the Nad Boys and have heard good things about their handheld equipment as well.

[@robprice6573]

I really liked your video I bought a scap liberty z 3 or 4 years ago, it has been very good so far I have the Kawasaki fr 650 on it I keep oil nice and clean . I do have a small yard think I have 40 hours on it so far

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Scag definitely makes a nice mower. Thanks for the feedback!

[@brienburke4382]

Use to take 8 man hours to mow our place with a cub cadet zero turn and a gravely tractor. Looked at many brands. At one dealership they were so busy that the mechanic came out to work with us on selecting a mower. I learned more from him than any sales person. They sold Ferris, Scag, Toro and Grasshopper. This was in the fall and I ended up buying their Ferris demo/loaner with less than 100 hours (IS3200). Cut our mowing time down to 3.5 hours ….. so now we mow more areas at 5 hours. Does not beat me up. Used to be I could hardly walk after mowing but with the Ferris I can continue doing other chores. Around 300 hours the left hydro unit leaked oil due to a leaking seal. Covered under warranty. Took two trips to fix due to putting in the wrong seal but corrected. Dealer picked up and delivered mower each time and had a loaner while waiting for the correct seal. Great customer service. I now use them for multiple small engine repair and all my Stihl purchases. Baum Powersports in Chester Ohio. Wonderful dealer!!!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Service like that will not only keep you coming back but draw others in as well through your recommendations. That is the type of dealer we are looking to work with moving forward. The Ferris mowers definitely are nice and being able to not be sore or beat up afterwards as a huge bonus as it makes you more productive in other areas as well.

[@gainestruk1]

I have a 2016 Ferris IS 600 Z, it has a little over 800 hrs on it, it has been a great mower, nothing other than blades and belts has been replaced. It has a 25hp commercial grade Briggs&Stratton engine The hydro drives are Hydrogear 3200, the oil in them are fairly easy to change, they take 2 quarts of 20W50 regular oil.

[@AllenReinecke]

Ferris 100% satisfaction! ❤️ I've had my Ferris ISX 800 for about a couple weeks and put 10 hours on it. I have a very rough yard with lots of obstacles. It takes about 2.5 hours to cut it all. The suspension makes the job much easier and I feel, after a session, just like I felt when I started it. 👍 Had one issue. One of two air filter cover thumbscrews got lost when it came loose. Dealer gave me a couple FOC. 👍 The suspension is not perfect at speed but it's way way better than a solid system, which I've endured for 6 years here. My only issue, due to me, is that I can easily chew up the grass when maneuvering around trees on soft ground. The Ferris has plenty of traction. Fine when you use a fwd and rev technique. I'm very pleased with the engineering, ease of maintenance, and access on the Ferris, and I'm an engineer! $10k well worth spending. My last mower for sure!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We checked out the Ferris mowers, and they look like an awesome machine. They are definitely comfortable as well!

[@AllenReinecke]

Just completed the 25 hour service. Took 1.5 cartridges of Red N Tacky grease. Messy as you can't see it coming out and you use more than needed. Though it's good to flush the bearings out . Good for long life but horrible to do (13 zerks plus two spindles) and clean up.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

@@AllenReinecke greasing is never fun!

[@billm1526]

I'll second that for Ferris. Have an 8 year old Ferris zero turn with 400 hours, 48" deck, 19HP Kawasaki, Hydro Gear ZT3100. I sometimes pull a 600lb cart with it and yearly I pull a 48" plug aerator with about 150 lbs. on it. It pulls hard... Awesome machine. Aside from regular maintenance (oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, plugs, grease, and one hydro oil and filter change) I've only had one issue that may be my fault. Mowing very close in to bushes a branch unclipped the cover on the Donaldson Air Filter. Air filter element never came out and I mowed for about 10 minutes before I noticed the cover on the ground. It will never happen as I've tied the clips with string so It can't come off. If I ever need to replace it I'm headed straight back to Ferris.

[@lowermichigan4437]

the suspension is why I want a Ferris. I have also talked myself up to get one of the big bore machines. Eventually.

[@brianlitzenberger571]

Just about to buy a STIHL RZ 752i for my 5 acres. Ferris with different colors. Your points about dealer and service are spot on. Really appreciate all the logical, well thought out info!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Appreciate that, glad we could help!

[@pxxxbxxx253]

How do you like it? I was looking at Stihl RZ752i vs Scag Turf Tiger II or Cheetah II.

[@SaltyBbqPiggy]

I can’t thank you enough for the video. Your approach to the data is awesome. I’m looking at a Toro 77503. Any feedback on toro?

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You are welcome. Toto seems to make a good mower, they also own ExMark, and recently bought Spartan. The main negative I’ve heard is that they are tough to get a hold of if needed for support but I have no personal experience with them.

[@SaltyBbqPiggy]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Many thanks. I’m 20 miles from a toro dealership and 22 miles from a JD dealership. One way or another I’ll get ahold of them. Have a great day.

[@Concerned_Citizen111]

Thank you for your research! Love your channel. Happy Bad Boy Rogue owner here. Thing is a beast!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You’re welcome, and thank you. The Rogue is definitely an awesome mower!

[@5153flash]

Here is a little mower story for you. I work on small engines out of my garage, and a guy called me one day,said he heard of me through a friend. He said he just bought a $10,000 plus Scag Zero turn,and it stalled in his back yard as he was mowing. It was Saturday and he wanted me to come get it and fix it ,if it was something that wont effect warrantee. We discussed the warantee thing and I told him I cannot work on it while it is under warrantee. But he said come get it. So I loaded my trailer with winch and headed to his house. When I got there ,he told me he was not happy that this mower quit on the 1st or 2nd time he mowed( I cant recall) but the mower was weeks old from purchase. I told him ,,I dont believe I want to work on it,,but lets go take a look at it. Did I mention he was not happy> lol So we walked across the yard and around the corner,,,and his mower was sitting between 2 hedge rows in his yard. And here is how the story ends!! As I got 20 ft from it,,I stopped and said. I know whats wrong with it!!! (I have good vision. ) I heard him say ,,,,What? I walked up to the mower and hid from him what I did,,,but it took 1 second!!!! (I fixed it) Then I said ,go ahead and start it!!! He looked at me like I was crazy ! He cranked the mower and it started!!! He went from being mad ,,,to what kind of witchcraft is going on here!! The engine has a fuel pump pulse line connected to the valve cover,,it came off as he mowed thru the bushes!! I seen the small hose hanging loose as I walked up to the mower. If the line is not attached ,,no fuel!!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

That is funny, in the past I have bought pieces of equipment that they say won’t run put gas in them and they fire right up. They definitely need gas to run lol.

[@urpapi4life]

Lol😂

[@mayer7196]

I have had Toro, Bad Boy, Deere, Craftsman, Gravely and Scag. Gravely has been my favorite with the least amount of issues.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, they do make a good mower.

[@malcolmh5736]

I had a several year old Gravely ZT X 42 with Kawasaki and it was really good. I made the mistake of getting the 2024 Gravely ZTX 42. There’s something very wrong with the deck. It spews debris/grass/leaves etc out the front and also non-shoot side. It’s really awful. I sold it after just 1 season. I got a 2024 Cub Cadet fab with Kawasaki and MUCH MUCH better and works how it should. I didn’t expect the grass to not get torn up from back tires like the Gravely did but is a bonus. Such a bummer about the Gravely but lesson learned

[@johnmills186]

I have driven Scag since 95 and the mower I bought in 1995 still mows 2 yards a week never had anything but normal tires belts batteries. I bought a new Turf Tiger in 2012 gave the old on to the kids. Both mowers use the same spindles and I have a new spindle on the shelf but have never replaced on either mower. The joy of good parts. Never welded or broke either one. If you want tough get a Turf Tiger they are a tank. I mow a farm barn yards drive ways and house yard I am not easy mowing.

[@johncarlson7955]

Love my Scag that I bought used, yes used. 48 hours, . I lost spark and replaced both coils myself. I’d buy another new one.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Scag definitely has a reputation for durability and longevity as well as a premium cutting mower.

[@inthebackyardwithdel438]

Your original dealer done a solid by giving you back your money . Power of KZbin . That BADBOY is the bomb . They now have their own weed eaters , chainsaws and other equipment . I have wanted a badboy for a couple of years now . Great video

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks Del, yes they did! I am so glad to be done with that mower. The Bad Boy mowers sure are nice. I wonder how their hand held equipment will stack up.

[@inthebackyardwithdel438]

I was wondering about their hand held equipment also . First year really being out so I might hold off alittle . 👍🏻

[@nathantaylor860]

Bad Boys gas handheld is made by Maruyama and their battery handheld is made by Greenworks. Their tractors are made by TYM. Their side by sides are made by Hisun. All Bad Boy makes are mowers and implements.

[@wisdomspitter7688]

Too bad you had to stomp your feet on KZbin to get the dealer and manufacturer to respond. An average Joe would have been SOL. Think how many have had similar experiences that went unresolved over there.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

@@wisdomspitter7688 I agree. One of the reasons I made the video to help others.

[@johnwoody4905]

good video you know more about them than i do. make sure you get one that you can grease the deck and moving parts some don't. deside what is best for your needs at the best price. a lot of the big mower guys mow yards 7 days a week and they need the $$$$ mowers that are built lke a tank. Rachel looked good mowing. take care, be safe and well.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, yes she does! We are definitely doing our research and are looking forward to our new mower. We’ll be making our decision soon.

[@JamesMasel]

congrats to you for doing lots of homework it will payoff in the long run. I can't speak to what brand to buy as my son is an Ex Mark dealer but I'll say this, where you buy it and how well they back their product means more than the manufacture of a zero turn mower.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, and you are correct the dealer makes all the difference!

[@davidedwards3734]

I have 3 Hustlers, a Fastrak and Super Z!! Ive used others but like the Histlers and the dealership i deal with!! Great news on your other mower!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks David, I know a lot of people really like the Hustlers. I’m just a little concerned since Black and Decker bought out Hustler as to if the quality and customer service will stay the same.

[@ChesterGingrich]

Yep, I have a cub cadet zero turn but have over 1000+ hours on it now. I wanted to supplement my cubby (I broke the front wheel off of it - i use it as a bush hog and abuse it regularly!) with a new one a couple years ago but cub cadet was way behind on delivery. I instead bought a Hustler commercial. It’s a beast but doesn’t handle the hills as well as my cub cadet. Btw, can’t say enough good things about my local dealer, Hines of Bedford PA! I purchased most of my equipment from them and they also provide good services. They really keep up on the models and problems with the available equipment.

[@burdman0756]

Good video. After a lengthy search myself after my kubota gr2120 died for the second time I went with a John Deere z735m! Awesome mower big upgrade in my opinion on all aspects from quality of the machine to comfort. I cut about 4 acres at my property and it’s quite bumpy and hilly. Good luck on your search!!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we have looked at John Deere and Kabota as well as many other brands. We are nearing the end of our search with another brand or two. We want to check out before we make our decision. Out of all the mowers we’ve looked at will definitely end up with something quality and comfortable.

[@ddfunk70]

Thanks for the video Bubba. Leaning towards the Bad Boy myself.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I don’t think you would go wrong with a bad boy, I’ve called and talked to the manufacturer talk to dealers and a lot of people who own them. A lot of positive experiences all around and they are definitely on our shortlist for our next mower.

[@ryanfoley9999]

Great video Heath I loved it you done a great job thinking all this through , & great job Rachel ❤❤❤

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you Ryan!

[@ethanpemberton9011]

I bought a 2002 scag turf tiger with under 400 hrs. I have several friends that had nothing but great luck with them commercially used. Mowers with over 3000 hours. There are so many great choices out there. Commercial mowers are worth every penny in my opinion if your mowing 3+ acres every week

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, I’d definitely say Scag and ExMark seem to have a lot of high hour mowers out there still cutting.

[@keithhimstedt6870]

I would say you have to look at the Ferris. I just bought 54" ISX2200 Ferris. That is a commercial grade mower and I love it... Only have had it a month so far but it is EFI not carb and so far I have loved the ride and job it does on my land... I have a rough yard about 5acres big but I love this thing and can cut it in 2.5 hours vs 8hr with a rotary cutter. Great review so far

[@jayjudd6518]

Five Rikers and 2 1/2 hours 54 inch deck unbelievable I had 3 acres and it took at least four hours. I think the average is 1 acre and two hours so somebody’s full of .💩

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We did check out Ferris and they are an awesome riding mower. They definitely seem to stand behind their product product as well.

[@peterhotaling7148]

I bought the sthil 52" mower and i am very impressed

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Those are a nice Mower for sure, Ferris makes a comfortable riding unit.

[@KnotJustWood270]

I have a 61inch cut ferris mower that i have had for ten years so far, with all wheel suspension that I use to cut my place. Don't know how many acres I cut, But takes about 5 hours to mow, Never had any problems.I like it a lot.

[@rirebel6029]

I got a 2006 ferris dual drive hydro walk behind 52 inch cut with a sulkee ....I bought it used from my buddy it was his company's backup mower . It's got the upgraded 25hp Kawasaki motor with . Ferris makes an absolute beast of a mower I got like 1700 hours on mine and just replaced the first deck pully ....and I do my place 3 acres of mowing , 2 neighbors , and the family farm house with a ton of lawn

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We looked at Ferris and they definitely seem to make a nice mower and a lot of people have been very happy with their Ferris mowers.

[@sheriffbart616]

Great job on the video. You should test a Kubota if they have on in your area. Really, any high end commercial mower is going to be well built. Kubota has a diesel zero turn that I wanted but that was really expensive for a homeowner but it would out last me!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We did look at the Kubota, diesel would be awesome but you are right, they aren’t cheap.

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Thank you for all your work to arrive at logical choices. Only one thing I don’t think you considered - used machines. Don’t some dealers also take trade-ins which they restore and sell at a significantly lower price than new?

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I have looked for used but it seems most of the used units around here have several thousand hours in them and they still want quite a bit for them. Trailsport motors did have a nice low hours used Spartan mower for a good price but we didn’t really like the Spartan.

[@enzop.3227]

I’m curious if you have checked out the EGO zero turn but not sure how big your yard is.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We have not but we now a few acres between our properties.

[@TractorWrangler01]

I think Ferris has the best suspension but I haven't been on a lot of others. I have a 60" Exmark lazerZ. The e-series. It's been really good to me. The only issue I've had was when I was mowing a forest floor and a stick broke a small hydro cooling fan. It behaved just like your Husky did when hot. When I figured it out, I bought a new fan blade and changed the hydro oil on it, and it has taken me 2500 hours so far with zero sign of giving up. I have a fairly bumpy area of the lawn that is pretty jaring, but the suspension seat sorts that out pretty well. It's a rugged well built work horse mower with not to many frills. I'll be keeping it.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Ferris does make a nice riding machine. The Bad Boy Rogue rides like a Cadillac! ExMark makes a great machine too.

[@GeorgePelaez-g7b]

Great review guys! Very through and informative! As usual you guys seem to have your finger on the pulse of everyday folks like us ! Keep up the great work 👍

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we appreciate the feedback!

[@jodydolan2374]

I bought a bobcat z6000 .It is a beast and built so well

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I would like to check out Bobcat but haven’t yet.

[@bobbylibertini]

I don't know what it is with mower dealers, but you're absolutely right! I've walked into dealerships with thousands in my pocket, knowing exactly what I wanted....they had to do nothing, except sell me the mower...and they still managed to drive me away! They ignored me; they tried to talk me into getting what was in stock, that I didn't want, instead of getting a unit that I did want...let me walk out the door after 10 minutes of standing there waiting for the answer to a question while the owner had a convo with a friend of theirs who stopped in... AMAZING! They're like a case study in how not to do business! All the ones around here have horrible ratings for service. They lie like rugs... I've been treated better by other businesses when buying a $10 item!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

It blew my mind the way some of them treated a customer looking to buy!

[@bobbylibertini]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Right? I've been in small businesses all of my life, and I don't see how anyone can run a business by throwing away "free" customers! At first I thought it was just that one dealer I had first gone to...but I soon saw that it seems to be the norm with powersports/outdoor equipment dealers. Amazing!

[@davidmccoy112]

John deere has always been good to my family and ive only got a small deere right now but close on house next year so will be buying a big boy mower soon and green gets green

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

They have been solid over the years.

[@randallallen4296]

I personally own a SCAG and love it! Dealer service is as important as the quality of mower, and it looks like you have two good choices of dealer.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The dealer can definitely make a huge difference. I put in a lot of research this time and should make our decision on a new mower soon!

[@johndenver8574]

When I worked at a small engine dealership I really only sold the customer what they needed. So many customers walk in and say I need something that cuts grass without wanting knowing anything about what mower will be better for them. That's how sales people get you.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The honorable way to operate.

[@EwenRoberts-o8o]

Great video. You got to test out a few mowers and decide what one is best suited for your needs. Best of all found out which dealers no there homework on the mowers and which dealership might be the better choice to go with. You done your homework for sure so I guess we will see what mower your going to pick.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Yes we did, thank you. It was really quite eye opening visiting the different dealerships and seeing how they treat you, how knowledgeable they are etc. I also paid attention to how they treated others who came into the shop while I was there, whether it was for parts, equipment, etc.

[@Texrc]

Test a Ferris you won’t be disappointed. Like mowing grass in your recliner.

[@T_81535]

The rogue is an absolute Cadillac. Fully independent suspension can't be beat

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The Ferris is nice, but to get the Hydros I want it’s not cheap! I also wonder how well the suspension holds up over time. I’ve heard a few say they it gets a little soft after a few years and when you slow down quickly it dips and scalps the yard. I haven’t witnessed this myself though.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The Rogue definitely rides nice!!

[@garylittle8985]

I've never replaced a single part on my suspension, still rides great after 18 years. The way they design the mower, the deck doesnt dip down when the suspension goes down. Plus, the suspension has 3 settings on front and rear shocks, plus rear shocks can be angled for even more adjustment. ​@hardworkingmanoutdoors

[@donnygreen007]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors i have 2 ferris 1 new and one 12 years old.the 12 year old defiantly has lost some of its softness and to replace shocks they are 2x as much as higher end car shocks.so i let my grandson drive that one and i stick to the new one

[@FiteTheGoodFight]

Outstanding review analysis 👏

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we appreciate the feedback.

[@budlegallee4993]

Here in the Eastern UP they don't charge that much and the grass doesn't grow as fast. I am sure you know that with family in Rudyard. We live about 20 miles SE of Rudyard. Enjoy your videos, Thanks

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Oh yes, I love it up there. Except for when there’s way too much snow or too many blackflies or too many mosquitoes. Everything else is great.

[@Videogamerforlife69]

I got 3 scags and there's another 13 or more at work. they always perform. I almost bought a ferris, but my dealer called me right away when a mower came available instead of being on a 1 year waiting list

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I don’t think you would have gone wrong with either but Scag definitely seems to be among the most dependable mowers out there.

[@keithhenry2063]

If you want to "float" even more, install a set of tweels. Take a hard look at the Exmark mowers. I don't know anything about the Radius models, but the Lazer Z's are comfortable and solid - doesn't rattle, seems well balanced.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we have looked at ex Mark and they are nice mowers. We have also been looking into tweets a little bit more.

[@zmandan1685]

What was the info you learned about the Hydro gears? I am searching for a good zero turn myself.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I have had a lot of people reach out to me about them. It seems the 4400 and 5400 are the two best and most reliable units. A lot of people say the Parker brand are pretty good as well.

[@DanielMorris-pz7im]

Hey man I’m torn between buying the bad boy renegade, a SCAG turf tiger and an exmark lazer z x series mower. We have primarily flat land here in South Carolina. In your professionally opinion (and I know you test lots of mowers) what’s your take on which one of the three is the best? We want to buy something that’s gonna last and that’s gonna cut the grass clean.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them! I have not driven the Turf Tiger or X series personally. But I do not believe the Turf Tiger has suspension. We tested the Scag Cheetah 2 and it had the suspension platform and seat. We have also driven the ExMark Lazer Z E series which has the suspension platform and the Bad Boy Rogue/Renegade is another than any of them! We just posted a video with cut quality with the Bad Boy, an ExMark, and the Yakta and the Bad Boy laid down the nicest cut. I will say the Scag we tested was the quietest with blades running. Personally out of the mowers listed I’d go with the Bad Boy.

[@dans1104]

We have over 40 scag cheetahs and cheetah 2 in our fleet. They range from low hours to the oldest one with 4500 hours. Still on the orginal hydrgogear 5400 hydros and kawasaki engine. These machines are beast. Id highly recommend one

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We almost went with the Cheetah 2 but Rachel just couldn’t get over the ride of the Rogue! I’ll still be keeping my eye out for a used Scag to compare. Where are you located in Michigan?

[@ross7684]

My son and DIL have a 5 acre lot, 3 of which they mow. They have nothing but good things to say about their BadBoy ZT mower. I've used it a couple of times for them when they were out of town and have to say it is by far the best mower I've ever used. I know they researched mowers before they bought their high end residential version and in the years they've owned it, it has never been to the shop.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we were really impressed by the bad boy mowers. Seems a lot of people are really happy with them. We appreciate the input.

[@toddkeitchen8869]

There are many great mid mount zero turns mowers on the market. I got on to them over forty years ago before they got so popular with the homeworkers. I also think that the front mount mowers are often overlooked by most people. Probably because there are not as many manufacturers of them. But I have run front mount Grasshoppers for over 35 years, and I find there better riding and, most of all, have the ability to mow underneath large pine trees without getting all beat up from the trees themselves. Another brand is Walker, which makes a front mount and probably others that I don't know about. My advice is to drive one and see if it fits your needs. Thanks

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks, I hadn’t thought about that.

[@mosfet500]

Thanks for the work and videos, I know this problem, anyone who buys these types of things knows and has these problems! I just bought a new zero turn, a John Deere. Here's why I buy Deere. I just went on their website and looked at the parts diagrams for the zero I bought and just about every part can be bought. I recommend people look on the manufacturer's web site and check out parts. Deere is great this way, I've bought parts for 30 year old Deere stuff without any problems, also Deere stuff holds up and holds its price. You have to consider that too. When you buy from a Deere dealer you get the network, the repair and everything else right in one place. I have an expensive tractor from them with a backhoe on it. I did have problems with one of my other tractors and they took care of it. Next, know your dealer, it was good you checked out the dealers that had equipment you were interested in. Again, that's the beauty of Deere, hard to beat network of dealers. I think Jason from Husqvarna called you out of shame, he knew he would get beat and lose business. He knew there were problems? Then why didn't he fix them years ago, that's not a new company, so what's he saying they've had problems for years? I won't buy their machines! I'll have to watch and see what you did buy but I weigh lots of parameters, that's how I settled on Deere years ago and it has always worked out well for us. (I stay away from their lower priced box store items and only buy from a JD dealer, in the end you save). Thanks again, really enjoyed your honesty ,fairness and openness. Looks like you guys have a great relationship, my wife and I have the same thing, always working together for the best.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you for the information, I hadn’t thought about looking up the parts diagrams and availability, that’s definitely something to consider.

[@peteschiavoni]

Very informative. I’m looking to upgrade my JD. I have a great dealer but their prices are very high for what I’m looking for. I’m leaning towards Spartan or Bad Boy as they each have a great local dealer. Thank you for sharing what you’ve learned

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You are welcome. We looked at Spartan too, however knowing that Tori has purchased them has me a little Leary. I know Toro makes a good mower but quite a few people said that they are hard to get a hold of if you have a problem. I also wonder what they have in store for the future of Spartan.

[@peteschiavoni]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I agree. That’s what keeps me looking for other brands. I could really use a tracked Altoz on my property but closest dealer is over 70 miles away

[@Z3RORAGE]

I'm 29 hours in on a Badboy Rouge 61" and I love it. Go for it.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

It was an awesome mower for sure! The ride was amazing!

[@Servant927]

Like I commented before. I love my BadBoy. You have to figure out what fits you. I have a Gravely dealer 4 miles from And bought the BadBoy from a dealer 20 miles away. Glad I did. Like I said before 4 years and zero regrets. It’s up to you and what you think is good for you. I knew Scag was the best but the dealership close by wasn’t very nice. It was like I was wasting his time. I mow my 5 acres once a week for 4 years and no problems. I would suggest to buy an extra belt. So you don’t have to run to the dealer to get one. Also use the seat belt and make sure to use the roll bar. Watch out for low hanging limbs. Great video on the mowers it was very informative. Love y’all and have a great weekend. 👋

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks Ben, the Bad Boy was definitely a comfortable ride! I dealt with one Scag dealer like that as well but the guys at Trailsport motors were great. We checked out the new Rebel X as well.

[@jdwilson533]

I recently traded in my John Deere 950 72” cut for a Wright ZXL 27hp Kawasaki 61” cut… they offer a 40hp ZXT which is a monster, 37hp ZXL and 27hp ZXL. I’m mowing 4 acres at home and about 8 acres at my father’s farm. The build quality is exceptional and serviceable has really been thought out.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We checked out the Wright, ZXL and actually have a video coming out on it. It is an awesome mower for sure.

[@travisleroux4994]

I love my spartan rode almost all the big mower brands before. my years the spartan hands down feels the best and warranty work has been great especially at my local dealer Bluff Powersports, Poplar Bluff Missouri. Ive had great experience they even pushed a warranty thru a month past my warranty expiration because they felt it shouldnt have broke/wore out with the hours that was on my mower. They also warrentied the blades on my first oil service said they was wearing to quickly and they must have been defective. The story behind Spartans beginnings also helped my desicion with the Spartan and not buying a Bad boy.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Spartan definitely makes a nice mower, my brother has one and loves it. One of the dealers I visited was concerned that now that Toro bought Spartan. They may just absorb them and no longer produce the Spartan brand. That does leave me a little nervous.

[@edrurup8955]

I only mow my lawn, just over an acre. I bought a Bobcat by Textron back in 2000 when there weren't many zero turns around. At the time it was overkill for what I needed and at a price of 6000.00 back then was a lot. The mower is still running strong. My advice is to over buy for your needs. Bobcat Textron has since been bought by Doosan and offer it under the Bobcat that we all know in the orange and white. Not sure what I would buy today but the Dealer rating would probably be weighted the heaviest in my decision with machine performance being second. Great video series! Thx!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We are definitely doing our homework on our dealer before our next purchase. And our next mower will be much more substantial than that Husqvarna was.

[@chrissumner552]

I purchased my first commercial mower last year after mowing 5 yards with a Craftsman and Troy Bilt. I went with a Bad Boy Revolt 54". I love this mower and now have 50 hours with no issues at all. 30 HP Kawasaki goes through anything.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Bad boy is definitely towards the top of our list. We will be making our decision here in the next few days.

[@oldguyfirewood]

Hey Heath. Great reviews. In addition to my firewood hobby business I also have a landscape maintenance business. I don’t have any experience with Bad Boy mowers so I can’t comment on them. Of the other mowers you mentioned, both Scag and Hustler would be my top choices. I run 2 Hustler Super Z mowers and they are tanks. The suspension seats give a great cushioned ride. I don’t own a Scag, but based on my interaction with other local commercial mowing companies, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks Dick, we haven’t checked out Hustler yet. I’ll be honest I’m a little nervous hearing that Black And Decker purchased them. From my experience a lot of times when a big company buys a successful smaller company things often don’t improve but head the other direction.

[@oldguyfirewood]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors I wasn’t aware they had been bought. I share your concern. Both my Hustlers are from prior to when B&D took over. Knowing that, I’d probably go Scag.

[@broncobill1104]

I bought a Kioti commercial 60" machine 3 years ago. Briggs motor grenaded at 65 hours with no warning. Dealership gave me a loaner and had mower back in a couple months. I think it's a good value machine, has heavy duty components and honestly I've watched a bunch of videos, most of these mowers are nearly the same thing, but it's more about where you'll get your service when it breaks down.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The dealership is huge! Glad they took care of you.

[@michaellee3910]

We bought a kioti ztc 60 se, been a great mower.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I like my Kioti tractors.

[@MillersStumpsandFirewood712]

I've heard good things on Bad boy and scag,the only complaint I've heard of is the scag blade system is somewhat different to get them off.Other than that I would go with scag or bad boy.Ive got a friend who mows commercially and uses Exmark and loves them..

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I didn’t know that about the blades. I’ll look into it. Bad Boy and Scag are high on our list.

[@MillersStumpsandFirewood712]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors you might check into it Heath not sure if they have changed their system or not.

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Scag seems to have a decent reputation. We run one at work and the only problem was not keeping the air flow clean. That with any mower, air supply or die.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thanks Kenny, there are definitely a lot of high hour Scag mowers till out there cutting every day.

[@TheBpotter69]

Absolutely go with a commercial mower. I have a Ariens zenith 60in. Iwas told it's a low end commercial mower. It has the commercial kawasaki fx730v and 3100 hydro gears. And I've had it for almost 4 years and not a issue.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

There have been a lot of great reports about the Ariens brand. We checked them out along with their brother the gravely.

[@jperkins1269]

For the price, quality and performance, I love my bad boy.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You definitely seem to get a lot of bang for your buck with the bad boy Mowers.

[@jobe1911]

I went out on a limb and bought 2 Bobcat mowers. The ZT 7000 and ZT 6000 for my commercial business. I’ve ran them through some of the craziest fields and yards and they just keep rolling. The downside to both mowers is the weight. Some hills give me trouble and it’s easy to rip the turf if I’m not careful. However they are way over built and I have yet to have an issue after two years in business. Both have Kawasaki engines. The manual says 100 hours but I change my oil every 50.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we have not checked out bobcat yet, but would like to.

[@ByDesign333]

​@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Got my hopes you'll check bobcat soon, cos that's what's at my best mower dealer which seems a good make, plus they carry cub cadets, Kubota, and I know very little about ZT feel like my son has had from them (bobcat) for 8 satisfied years doing his 3plus acres of level lawn...but he paid $8k or close, and says it has been great working with the dealership. Son is mechanically talented, and took that ZT in only to have them tell him it was a plug needed replaced or somethig...said they found problem fast and it embarrassed my son. They transport units within generous limits. Help me decide one thing about mowing my 1plus acre ground pleez; for a best health purpose, me being now 73 and being use to only tractor mowers, like the Husq. Sitting out in back of my field broke down, motors running OK, but stopped going forward at all suddenly (?), and which I've had like 10 years fixing the deck and had the Kholer replaced almost free due to recalled engines...my mechanic did the labor. Well anyway I scored super high on a school days tech apptitude test in 1969 to my school's shock, cos I was not able to do well at all in math. Sorry to drag on, got to say a tad more...my son told me if I get a ZT mower I will never go to the tractor kind. The thing is I NEED SMOOTH RIDE at 73 now, but now hearing it's hard wheel in front on ZTs, and I do some gardening and firewood moving around her, which dealer says I should stay tractor mowers. I need more info, and opinion, though your videos help loads. Thanks, my son things I need to just do it whatever, but I think it pays to hesitate some times. It's city ordinances pushing me to also...just been to the ER, and resting, and my dear preacher-nieghbor came over with his ZT and mowed what all grass the city can see from the road. God bless him, and you and yours, I'm subscribing, thanks alot.

[@garylittle8985]

I noticed you didn't try out a Ferris, they have the best suspension on the market. I have the Simpicity, which is nearly identical to ferris, bought new in 2006, still running strong, very little problems with it. Highly recommend it to anyone with rough terrain, or a bad back. Bad Boy i think is next with the rubber cushion suspension front and rear, and suspension seat. Maybe you don't have a local ferris dealer in your area, but if so, give one a spin. Like you said, dealer service is one major thing to consider. Good luck !!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, we did check out Farris along with quite a few other brands and have one left to check out before we make our decision. We just did not get all of them on film. Some brands we eliminated because we were not impressed with the dealer. I think a great dealer is just as or more important than a great brand but the combination of both is what we’re looking to find this time.

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

Great information guys. 👋👍🏻 Have you done any thinking on a diesel or gasoline powered mower. Have a great day.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I’d love a diesel, but the prices are a bit high for us.

[@2GUYZFISHING]

I mowed commercially for 25 years. I never found a brand that cut better than Exmark. I’ve used Ferris, JD, Wright, Kubota, Cub Cadet (junk!), Toro, Ariens, Husqvarna (junk!), and a few “home owner” brands. Exmark is number one, followed by JD. The Kubota diesel engines last a long time, but the cut quality is not up to par with the best, IMO.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Ex Mark definitely makes a nice mower.

[@TractorWrangler01]

I would have to agree. I have taken my Exmark several times to actually clear forest floors that have tree branches and small saplings and it mows saplings as big as my thumb right over like it was grass.. tough unit. Really tough.

[@rc391995]

Man ! Poor guy has never owned a real mower ! I guess the price scared you off. Oh well you get what you pay for. I bet I never have to buy another mower.

[@coltonnewman8283]

Eh just get a walker mower if you want one and done. Two of the walkers I run are 24 and 31 years old just got a r22 walker to try a new one. Will last any home owner a lifetime and handle so nicely with minimal trimming

[@titostoys9926]

This is very timely for me. I am looking for a zero turn and want to spend a little bit in the range of 4-5 acre mowing. Almost picked up a bb maverick but the numbers didn't add up with their 0% financing. It was almost 20% above the advertised price - which is insane to me. I could easily buy it from another place (with a 4% financing). Still looking and digging in more on what I really need/want. I actually had Husqvarna on my list and now have dropped it from my chase.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Yes, sometimes the numbers and financing are exactly what they seem. I think in the end you end up paying around the same for what you get whether the finance charge is buried into the cost of the mower or a finance fee or a higher interest rate, etc. We will be doing more videos showing more mowers and in-depth reviews on a few. We will also be choosing our new mower soon and sharing why we chose it. We have learned a lot over the last few months about lawnmowers. I definitely check out bad boy, gravely, Ferris, Skagg, and many others that are mentioned in these comments.

[@cwtex59]

I bought a BadBoy Maverick HD 54” with Honda motor last summer and love it . I mow roughly 4 acres. I have an old Hustler Mini Fastrak that still runs good that’s about 16years old with a Honda motor. Looked at Hustler before buying the BadBoy and felt quality has gone done some since being bought by Black and Dealer

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I have not had a chance to look at hustler, but the black and decker acquisition has made me nervous as well. Bad boy units do look very solid. You seem to get a lot for your dollar.

[@cwtex59]

@@hardworkingmanoutdoors Yes I compared both and the BadBoy was cheaper and had more features. I also wanted a Honda motor which Hustler didn’t offer anymore. I really like the bold of the BadBoy and it seems easy to service. Good luck on your purchase

[@gringopines3476]

WOW, GUYS, YOU STUDIED HARD AND DID ALL YOUR HOMEWORK. AND WITH ALL THAT SAID AND DONE. I THINK YOU'VE PASSED THE TEST. TO ME, YOU BOTH LOOKED MORE COMFORTABLE ON THE BAD BOY. ALL I HAD TO DRAW FROM WAS WATCHING YOU BOTH DRIVE AROUND. I HAD NO HANDS-ON TO DRAW A CONCLUSION. BOTH DEALERSHIPS HAD GOOD, KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSONNEL AND WORK ETHICS. BOTH SEEM TO BE COMPASSIONATE AND CARING AND WILLING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR YOU AS A CONSUMER. I WATCH A CHANNEL THAT USES A LOT OF LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT, AND I REMEMBER STAN ( THE DIRT MONKEY ) TALKING A LOT ABOUT BAD BOY AND GRAVELY...I'M SURE YOUR NEXT PURCHASE IS GONNA BE KILLER. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DECISION. STAY COOL, GUYS, AND KEEP PUSHIN' ON... PEACE...

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, both dealerships were indeed amazing. I really liked the cut of the Scag and it was quieter while running and mowing, but you are correct the Bad Boy was so COMFORTABLE!

[@rc391995]

I will admit this about swag they ain't comfortable . But its a lawnmower not a Lexus.

[@MASTIFFKB]

I bought a Bad Boy 54 inch Magnum, lasted 2 months after the warranty ended. All of the contracted repair shops in a 1 hr radius that were active when I made my purchase have since stopped doing Bad Boy warranty work due to parts/payment issues. I now have a $3k+ yard art until I find a place to work on it. I needed a mower as 5-7 days is about the longest you can go in Fl summers otherwise it becomes a chore to mower. Decided to buy a new Hustler Raptor XL 54” Zero turn after looking at all the brands you mentioned decided on a dealer from a long standing family owned local small business. Fingers crossed.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

That’s unfortunate about the Bad Boy, I've heard good things about Hustler.

[@Ynot-e3e]

Try a Ferris. They have a true automotive coil over shock type suspension on the frame at the wheels, not just a spring- loaded seat. Would love to see you test one on here.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Yes, we did check out the Ferris mowers and they are comfortable!

[@robertspreitzer8126]

Not surprised I thought Exmark would have been 1 or 2. Here in Maryland everyone uses Exmark and SCAG mostly Exmark a few John Deers in there.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I expect ExMark to be up there too.

[@stevecrossland3681]

You may have missed an opportunity to look at a stand on mower. I have 10 acres of land and enjoy my stand on more it's versatility and ease of getting on and off of.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We looked at standers and I think they have some advantages for sure. We plan on trying to get a hold of one for some testing and comparisons in future videos.

[@clarkrowland6513]

The Air force base here uses Hustler. They run them year round. They tried others but went back to hustler.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I know a lot of people that have the hustlers really like them.

[@stonewalloutdoors4499]

I’ve owned many different brands as I mow 20 yards on the side. I can tell you that Kubota has them all beat with the 780 series mower 60” deck. There’s no thrills but It cuts great and is built to last. I’m seeing more and more commercial companies running them.

[@devildog4974]

I’ll have to disagree with you on this. Nothing against kubota because I have a kubota tractor but kubota mowers can’t beat the bad boy or the scag. Just my opinion.

[@stonewalloutdoors4499]

Bad Boys have come a long way in recent years I had the opportunity to use new rogue…for a few days as mine was in the shop and I found that it striped just fine but the suction on the deck was not adequate enough and left behind stragglers. (60” cut) Not horrible but the Kubota 780 does cut better. I’m hoping to try out the bad boy stander 54” soon.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We did check out the Kabota hours, they definitely looked nice. I would have to agree that Scagg is also an amazing mower, and bad boy has a lot to offer as well.

[@carysmith9039]

Great video Very common sense 😊😊😊😊

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you.

[@wayneeden98]

You did more research than anyone else I've heard of, I'm very aware of the fact lawnmowers are pricey, I don't think a lot people take in consideration the amount of grass area they have, what of mower do they need and how much money can they afford, I think the size of the cutting path should be first then motor hp,how much gas does it hold, then price, I think my choice is bad boy ,72 in cut,large motor, full capacity, price

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, and those are definitely all things to consider.

[@victorpayne6586]

Thanks. Good job, helpful.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

You’re welcome, thank you.

[@whiz3528]

We purchased a homeowner John Deer Z425 54 Inch about 7 years ago, it still has the original belts and only the second battery (always attach a battery maintainer after mowing). Day of delivery the store manager delivered it, he noticed it was not set up correctly, he took it back for complete make ready. Returned with the mower perfectly set up. Since then, we purchased a Kubota L3301 HST tractor, it is an awesome tractor and dealer service bar none. My wife can even mow with it being HST drive. If we ever need to replace the John Deer, I will most definitely be looking at Kubota zero turns. Kubota KTAC insurance cover our equipment bumper to bumper at a reasonable price.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We did look at the Kabota zero turns and they are pretty nice.

[@GaryEden-d4g]

Doozie here...This was quite a while back but crazy anyway. I believe it was back in 2006 I purchased a Cub Cadet M48 TANK commercial grade mower at the time over $6000. Honda 20 hp. I get it home and start to mow. OK , great. At 17 hours I'm mowing and it just quits. Stopped dead. I check for all obvious possibilities , nothing. So I load it up and take it back to the dealer. What was found was just totally incredible. The entire crankcase of that Honda engine was packed full of cosmoline. That's like vaseline. No lube , engine toast. Now I would have thought they'd have prepped this prior to delivery.Obviously not. But they made good and Honda provided a replacement as it was warranted. Just never had anything like that happen , bizarre. Surprised it lasted 17 hours.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

That is crazy, glad they took care of it for you!

[@chefboyrdanbh]

I have a bad boy Rebel and its the best mower I have ever had.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We were definitely impressed by the Bad Boy mowers.

[@RandySplawn]

Buy the bad boy. I have one of the residential models very pleased with it. I am going to install a track seat for a smoother ride..

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The Bad Boy was definitely an awesome machine! We looked at the new Rebel X as well. The comfort on that Rogue was unbelievable! The new Bad Boy seats are so so comfortable!

[@joshburns4049]

Make sure you guys also see how well these machines actually mow the lawn. Wet grass, dry grass, long grass after alot of rain. Have had 3 Scag mowers, they have an excellent quality of cut in all conditions!

[@T_81535]

Got 3 bad boys. They handle wet grass just fine.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

We did get to test a little on cutting and the rest of our research will be done through KZbin videos. Great point though.

[@brucelaatsch8668]

I heard alot great comments on the new stihl mowers

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I have as well. They are made by Ferris and are definitely comfortable.

[@DonMowen]

I've owned 2 Husqvarnas and both were awesome machines. I had a John Deere zero turn and it was complete junk. I now own a Stihl and it's the best machine I've ever owned.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

There can be lemons in every brand for sure. The lack of customer support is what soured me on Husqvarna. The Stihls are Ferris and are nice mowers. We now have a Bad Boy and a Yakta and they’ve both been awesome.

[@AllenReinecke]

Great update, guys! 👍

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

Thank you, Alan!

[@maxkozlowski7695]

I have a Walker they make a residential model and I really like it.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

There seem to have been quite a few walker recommendations recently. I have never seen one in person.

[@bobbyanderson1838]

I just bought a cub cadet zt1 54. With a 24 horse kohler. 3599

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

I think we are going to get a full-blown commercial machine this year and hopes that it will last years.

[@Lakecenterlawncare]

Hustlers have the smoothest hydros in the business. Worth a look!

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

The thing that worries me about hustler is that black and Decker has bought them out, a lot of times when a big company buys a smaller company things go downhill.

[@Lakecenterlawncare]

Black and Decker owns a few mower companies, as well as a lot of tool companies. Based on what I have head from the reps I still connect with at Hustler, they are supportive and are letting the company improve and grow for future profits and customer satisfaction on their own.

[@hardworkingmanoutdoors]

@@Lakecenterlawncare that is good to hear!