Harimau / Kaplan MT | The new face of the medium tank

[@WeaponDetective]

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[@nye3477]

I hope you could also make a video about T-129 ATAK

[@miked884]

When are doing the new Sabrah tanks?

[@visualserge]

Hoping for Sabrah light-tanks for future episodes.

[@rabbaniazzahra1784]

Germany : TIger 1, Tiger 2 Indonesia and turkey : Tiger 3

[@dimasfebrianramdhani3738]

Hope you can make video about cv90 mark iv

[@bayuchandrasukma820]

At first I don't understand why would we have another Tank with a light armor when we already had the Leopard 2RI, but I forgot about what sort of threat the country's trying to fight on. Thank you for the video, a really good plus detailed one on the Tank. Can't wait to see them doing great on the field soon.

[@alifio2183]

The Leopard 2's are just too heavy for hilly and jungles terrain of Indonesia. Its also too THICC for puny rural bridges. Its like japanese Type74 but lighter and more modern.

[@bawonos024]

Bnyk medium tank yg tua gan. Bnyak tu gw liat di Salatiga bnyak AMX13 tua bnget. Selain itu, buat riset dev ke depan utk ngembangin MBT ke depan

[@Cetbang]

Tank Harimau buat ngeggantiin tank amx13

[@Cetbang]

Armor tank harimau kan kelas medium

[@Gooblehusain]

Tapi masih Low rate production jadi harganya mahal banget semoga kalau udah mass produksi bisa jadi dibawah 20M

[@hekkura]

Even though it is called 'Medium Tank', it is firmly a light tank when considering modern standards. Compared to other modern light tanks, like the M8 AGS, ZTQ-15 Black Panther, CV90 105mm, or Type 16 MCV, the Kaplan weighs around the same about 30-35 tonnes. The reason it's called medium tank is because Indonesia has older service light tanks like the Scorpion and AMX-13 which weigh way less.

[@zzlhaiqal]

yea im agree with u,i thought their "medium tank" should be 125mm or above🗿

[@julfikaraldi4297]

@@zzlhaiqal kegedean anjer 125mm, mental ntar tank harimau nya. Kalo dipake 125mm pun hull nya harus menghadap kedepan biar ga keguling.

[@zzlhaiqal]

@@julfikaraldi4297 klo 155 mm??belum niat nembak lagi sudah turu🗿

[@oisnowy5368]

Light, medium, heavy is subjective. Some countries rated them on weight (important if you have lots of bridges that do not support certain weights, for example) and some on firepower. And of course the numbers change over time. For Hungary, once upon a time, they used 75mm caliber guns and above as a designation for heavy tanks. Plenty of smaller tanks around that had 37-57mm caliber guns. You always need to look at a name in context. Besides that, given the performance of Russia hardware in Ukraine and certain munitions available to the Harimau, I think it would not entirely be improper to label it a heavy tank. After all, it would pull greatly above its weight. Give Ukraine a couple of hundreds of tanks and plenty of the higher end munitions and it would leave little of Russian generals around to be impressed. (Which is better than still having them around to be impressed.) On the other hand, based on armor thickness, and mobility one might also call it a light tank. It's a very well balanced engineering solution specific to Indonesia's circumstances.

[@jorell_ace]

@@zzlhaiqal 155mm bukannya lebih ke artileri?

[@mohammadsyazwigeoffrey7325]

It's a good thing that the Indonesian-Turkish Harimau/Kaplan is getting more recognition Hopefully more SEA-made armored vehicles such as the AV8 Gempita(which is also jointly developed by the same Turkish manufacturer) get featured in this channel as well

[@kardusdigembok9933]

Beda harimau dengan gempita , harimau itu hasil kerjasama FNSS-pindad dengan pembiayaan bersama 50:50 dan harimau murni bisa di ekspor tanpa izin dari Turki dan bisa di kembangkan sendiri oleh Pindad sedangkan gempita murni 100% design dari Turki , Malaysia memproduksi gempita dari lisensi fnss Turki dan di larang untuk ekspor

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

@@kardusdigembok9933. So the point is Gempita is made in Malaysia and was designed by Turkey

[@Apa_yang_anda_pikirkan]

​@@MoskusMoskiferus1611😅 Malaysia??!

[@cucuawe465]

​@@kardusdigembok9933DefTech is taking the first steps of exporting the AV8 Gempita. The company has sent at least one AV8 Gempita, which is the variant of AFV30 to Saudi Arabia for trials in August/September 2018.

[@Belang-]

Harimau malaysia

[@dorisdavis2854]

Indos-Tanks look so sick I really love the design interior/exterior. I keep following since first revealed couple years ago. Keep developing this is one of many important projects. With love from Bangkok. Thai-Indonesian we are family.

[@albertsuseintsus7355]

No, we are neighbour

[@aligenderuwo6471]

Honestly it looks bad for me, well, you can't win a war with aesthetic but still...

[@albertsuseintsus7355]

@@aligenderuwo6471 it's can't match M1 Abrams but it's will win if match terorist :)

[@algos5706]

Turkey designed and produced the tank

[@xinjiping2024]

Don't buy from China, buy from Indonesia. The technology is more sophisticated, the durability is on par with US and Russian products.

[@emrearslanca5936]

Turkiye'den selamlar. bölgeniz için en ideal tank. diğer tanklar ağır ve dar orman arazisinde işe yaramaz

[@djoko8291]

tesekur ederim kardes 🙏

[@xyz-yu3xm]

Respect & love for Indonesia from Turkey 🐺🤝🐯

[@wahyueko305]

harimau is designed to be used in Indonesia , because many bridges in my country could only support 40 tons vehicles , also hilly contours and valleys terrain would be verry difficult for main battle tank with 62 tons weight to be operated , so this is more clever choice , i think

[@alfianfahmi5430]

I can imagine Abrams stumbling down on hilly forests 😂🤣

[@agungnwn9149]

Harimau di rancang dan di buat oleh fnns turki. Pesanan TNI ad di rakit Pindad bandung. Ingat cuma ngrakit

[@alfianfahmi5430]

@@agungnwn9149 Kontribusi Pindad cuman ngerakit atau desain juga??? 🤔🤔🤔

[@hamsterhitam4432]

@@agungnwn9149 gini hlo bos tak kasih penjelasan simple, misal anda mau beli mobil, tapi anda maunya beli mobil sesuai spek permintaan anda, lalu anda nyari pabrik yg mau buatin mobil sesuai spek anda, dan dengan 1 syarat lagi yaitu anda harus dpt ilmu bkin mobil yg sesuai permintaan anda itu, sama halnya dengan tank ini. indonesia pengen punya tank baru yg cocok dengan kondisi geografis indo dan sesuai spek mau kita, tapi ndak mau hanya sekedar beli, maunya beli sekaligus dpt ilmunya, lalu pihak indo nyari pabrikan negara mana yg mau sama proposal ini, dan pihak FNNS turki bersedia. memang benar harimau/kapplan ini yg ngerancang dan di buat pihak turki, tapi sesuai permintaan kita dan kita wajib dapat ilmu cara buatnya, kalau persoalaan merakit di indo ya memang di rakit indo karena isi teknologinya di indo belum ada pabrik nya, contoh bagian turetnya di katakan di atas itu produk belgia. jadi jangan lah komentar merendahkan seperti "ingat cuma ngerakit", hla maumu piye? maumu langsung bisa bkin sendiri semua gitu? ada tahapnya gan, pertama ilmunya, lalu buat pabriknya, lalu produksi sendiri jika memungkinkan. misal anda tak ajarin cara buat dan rakit komputer, apa anda langsung bisa produksi sendiri chip prosesornya? atau bisa buat RAM nya sendiri? enggk kan? masih butuh pabriknya dibangun dlu jg kan? buat mesin produksi nya dll kan? jadi mohon jangan komen merendahkan atau komen pesimis.

[@ah5904]

@@agungnwn9149 matamu, Turkey tau apa soal geografi Indonesia? Negaranya aja dataran. Lain kali kalau mau bacot jelek minimal PAKE OTAK.

[@federicoolz]

Light Tanks proved successful to quell Aceh separatists in 2003, especially when enemy has inadequate anti-tank capacity, sadly most western countries banned Indonesia to use their their arsenal for counter-insurgency, like England did with FV101 Scorpion. So it makes sense for Indonesia to build/co-build their own Tanks.

[@fitrianhidayat]

we have to be honest though, Megawati's way of handling aceh separatists doesn't really work, thank goodness SBY change how we deal with it

[@abcddef2112]

Tbh you dont fight insurgency with tanks.

[@KakaUmbraLunar]

@@fitrianhidayat SBY just lucky, after deadly indian tsunami in 2004, indonesian goverment make a peace deal for exchange helping aid Aceh region

[@WhyAlwaysMeOfficial]

@@KakaUmbraLunar lucky what? GAM's strength is only around 5000 troops, and 2000 separatist troops have died and they have been cornered. The tsunami only brought them back to reality and not many Acehnese supported GAM.

[@MultiDivebomber]

@@KakaUmbraLunar tsunami just a minor factor, SBY had a good negotiation team.

[@AbiManyu-mv3ly]

Great work Indonesia - Turkiye!!!

[@camovault]

When the Indonesian Army (TNI AD) decided to procured the Leopard 2 MBT, I was among those who opposed it. Not because of ground sinking theory but because of the reason explained in the video. Back then, a platform like CV-90 with 105/120mm would have made more sense. Now with the Harimau, finally TNI AD has some proper high mobility packed with serious firepower assets

[@mobajungky8550]

Betul cv 90 lebih masuk akal

[@MRNDESO-ps7bz]

Tank ringan & Medium tank yang lincah bermanuver dengan jumlah yang massive akan lebih evektif drpd memilik MBT kelas premium dengan jumlah yg terbatas.

[@lutfy8505]

seinget sy dlu klo tdk salah pengadaan MBT Leopard buat mengimbangi MBT Singapore sama Malaysia. dlu klo gk salah ada 2 pilihan, antara Leopard ex Belanda atau T90 Rusia. tp yg menang ex Leopard Germany krn ada ++ nya dan yg pasti pada saat itu parlemen belanda menolak pembelian surplus Leopard belanda oleh RI. untungnya pengadaan MBT jg dibarengi dgn pengadaan LST. jd bila nanti ada konflik pecah di manapun di wilayah RI MBT Leopard/Harimau bs langsung di deploy.

[@mobajungky8550]

@@lutfy8505 jelas om pya germany pling speknya sedikit d atas puya belanda..

[@lutfy8505]

@@mobajungky8550 yg saya baca sih krn di tolak parlemen belanda dgn alesan HAM. tp di german kt malah bisa upgrade ke leo 2 RI + dpt IFV marder.

[@yudisimpangpangup3897]

Mudah2an kerjasama antar Negara kita Indonesia dan Turki Sukses and produk yg diciptakan mmpu bersaing dipasarkan Dunia

[@rakamarhaba9266]

Semoga PT. Pindad Indonesia dan FNSS Turki semakin sukses dan menjadi yang terbaik..... Aamiin 👍🔥

[@ARIF55CJK]

🤢

[@phantomvulcan2206]

As an Indonesian, I'm glad you did this again

[@ARIF55CJK]

🤢

[@daviano_R.T.]

It's actually more make sense for Indonesian armed forces (both army and marine) to have this medium tanks, because keep in mind that Indonesia is consist of a bunch of island and the only way to enemy to fully occupied Indonesia territory is by amphibious invasion, so Indonesian MBT (army) can focus on defending the city, meanwhile the harimau medium tanks can be use to denied entry of enemy amphibious forces. Also medium tanks can be easily transport by A400M when the MBT have to be transported by C17 Globemaster. So yeah, this medium tanks can relieve some of the task of the MBT, and the MBT can focus more on other task.

[@jonipratama4234]

Alhamdulillah❤ saya ikut bangga, semoga Indonesia Turki senantiasa bersahabat

[@habahan4257]

Thanks for revoicing this amazing video. I think this medium tank also has the potential to be acquired by the Europeans

[@melee-dexterdexterious2878]

European guys traditionally tends to buy European when it comes to armoured vehicle.. Besides swedes CV-90-120 is a safer choice.. As well of fact being developed specifically for subtropical climate.. No need meddling with climate hurdles of things..

[@marsmotion]

@@melee-dexterdexterious2878 the climate gets pretty hot everywhere in summer. the climate is getting hotter all over, not for reasons your given in public but none the less it is happening. real reasons: all over world radio radar and microwave installations for comms, weather mod, and AI agendas... the sun is actually warming up changing its output leading up to a nova event, 2035, see diehold foundation. its periodic, 12068yr cycle. more overall planetary destruction of biosphere and natural environments.

[@melee-dexterdexterious2878]

@@marsmotion so by your opinion the human race actually casting a very real microwave radiation wrath upon itself? Just wondering how all those 'calculations' are correct whilst they also stated this global warming by itself an event that is recycling every certain centuries.. One note, somewhere i'd read that global warming not caused by rapid environment hostile industrialization.. The fact that traces of so called global warming had been traced back to medieval era.. We all knew medieval industrialization weren't reached anywhere near our current century..

[@Wolffjaeger]

Indonesia should invest in Frigates, Destroyers, Submarines and anti air system (to counter any in coming guided and unguided missile)

[@bedhenis]

Already.

[@Wolffjaeger]

@@bedhenis more

[@FuyatoB]

@@Wolffjaeger 2 Arrowhead 140, 6 Italian FREMM frigate, 2 Italian Maestrale, possible french Scorpene subs after indonesia buy 48 Rafale jets and japan has been offering their Mogami class frigate. The only thing i agree is that Indonesia still lack Long range SAM because currently indonesia only operate medium range SAM (NASAM)

[@Wolffjaeger]

@@FuyatoB yes, long range SAMs are very much needed to counter these foreign ICBMs..

[@hannn4063]

We have anti missiles, anti ballistic missile in our shores In south coast of java there are more than twenty spots. We are so ready more than world know.

[@Jay-lf9fd]

Very interesting content and i decided to subscribe. As a correction to the statement at 5:17 minutes. Indonesia is officially recognized by the United Nations as independent and established on August 17, 1945. So it's not 1949.

[@WeaponDetective]

We used the internationally recognized year of independence. We do not have any intention to offend the Indonesian people. If it is, we are sorry.

[@Jay-lf9fd]

@@WeaponDetective In the context of information via social media, it's really not a big problem for me. but for some people it might be a bit sensitive

[@rudykurniawan5520]

@@WeaponDetective Your statement is true

[@rudykurniawan5520]

@@Jay-lf9fd This is also true

[@nabigh6644]

@@WeaponDetective halah anda org barat (western) pastinya eropa, 1949 itu pengakuan dr Belanda dan itupun msh gk ngaku, klo ngaku bakal bayar wkwk

[@kakakiri2601]

i was read the kaplan mt specification and they can use Apfsds shell that can penetrated 530mm (more or less) at 2km, and is better than the 3bm42mango, but this tank mostly use Heat shell or HE fragmentation, or maybe HESH round because they use it only for infantry and some kind of it

[@isu152stalin2]

the tank use a m1060cv shells that is able to penetrate armor up to 560mm and has a shell velocity over around 1620 m/s, and with a penetration of 560mm it will definetly penetrate the original m1 abrams frontal armor that has a protection of only 350mm against apfsds

[@isu152stalin2]

plus the tank is able to shoot a falarick 105 glatgm (gun launched anti tank missile) from a range of 5 KM

[@farrel2114]

Bro mango is an obsolete round, Russia now uses 3BM60

[@xpcube]

@@farrel2114 mango is still widely used in russia v ukraine war because of how abundant it is compared to the svinets

[@lacsarlacsar3566]

no worries, we will install Lembu Sekilan shield here in Java.

[@yogaadiputra9722]

God job join projeck TANK HARIMAU HITAM KAPLAN in INDONESIA and TURKY. BRAVO 😎💪🇮🇩🇹🇷😍👌

[@zzlhaiqal]

bang,grammar lo kek anjg sumpah

[@ARIF55CJK]

Stress

[@ffg902]

Thank you Sir to taking my armed forces into your great channel

[@hasanmishu8792]

For geographical challenges Bangladesh are always buying light MBT and there aren’t many modern Light MBT to offer,only turkish and Chinese are in this race,would u plz make comparative video about kaplan and type 15 light MBT

[@rkadi6540]

Until now, I can't find any detail about type 15. Like the sensors, fcs, and the powerpack. Ask this in the military forum is not a good idea since i saw someone who asked about it and literally annihilated by chinese simpatisan

[@dennysatria879]

@@rkadi6540 Bait them with WarThunder

[@deltaboss1190]

They should've made 2 variants. A medium variant and a main battle variant. That way, it is easy to maintain and having a better accessibility of spare parts.

[@kakakiri2601]

well you cant, the turret are unsuitable to use 120mm gun because cmi cockerill didnt have that autolading mechanisnm for 120mm and cmi only have 105mm rifled gun, not a smoothbore gun like leopard 2 or other western MBT

[@tumbenmancing2412]

and now Indonesia also has the latest heavy weapon, namely the Antasena tank boat, a tank that moves in the water, first in the word, this is quite interesting, this channel please review this news

[@BT-tw2vz]

Rusia udah buat juga x tank di air. Jangan gampang ketipu media Indonesia bro

[@WhyAlwaysMeOfficial]

@@BT-tw2vz Antasena emang Tank Boat pertama di dunia, dianya yg salah tangkep, Tank Boat dan Tank Amphibious itu beda.

[@marlin-adventure9511]

Lol, it just a boat

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

it's basically, just speed boat armed with tank turret it's certainly not first in the world, but it's the first in more modern era

[@FontaineLovers]

considering the bridge quality of indonesia this is actually quite ideal and considering most of the inland threats indonesia currently faced it doesn't really require super thick armor like an MBT

[@90enemies]

35 tonnes is still heavy IF anything you're describing 6x6 Badak by PT Pindad that has 90mm gun and only weighs 12-14 tons

[@ReinhardtX57]

@@90enemies the harimau are using thicker plate armor than sabra or any other medium tank, that's why harimau is heavier. but its size is smaller than main battle tank. and 105mm cannon is enough to kill another medium tank. iv any country would invade indonesia, on land they will deploy light tank or apv because if they deployed main battle tank, it will just stuck in the mud because its too heavy for soft and muddy indonesia soil. so the harimau is so perfectly suited for indonesian army

[@90enemies]

​@@ReinhardtX57 Muddy? Eastern Europe is also filled with Muddy terrain and they seem to enjoy using MBT. There's a design consideration for muddy terrain like Ground Pressure. And even though Harimau is lighter than Leopard 2RI, it has thinner track width and ironically makes Harimau Ground Pressure the same as a Leopard 2RI. So if Leopard 2RI gets stuck in Mud, then so will Harimau. "105mm is enough to kill another Medium Tank" Yeah, but so is 90mm like one fitted on Pindad Badak or the Bushmaster 30mm fitted on Pindad Cobra. Your point? How is Sabrah lighter armored than Harimau? When both are rated Stanag Level 4?

[@isu152stalin2]

@@90enemies that may be true but they still have to cross fucking weak bridges of indonesia that can hold a weight of only fucking 40 tons and MBT has a weight more over than that, second they also still have to fucking cross thick jungles in there like and there is no fucking way that MBT will succesfully crossed that jungle or otherwise they will be fucking stuck. so there is no way that MBT would get in indonesia because is a awful place for main battle tanks

[@isu152stalin2]

@@90enemies plus the harimau hitam has a stanag level 5 to withstand against a 25mmm apfsds or apds

[@thepreserver83]

Tank never ever can be obsolete, enough is to maintain properly, to work how is needed. When enemy use much more protected tanks then your tanks can be used to destroy other vehicles such aps, infantry groups, trucks...

[@90enemies]

You're right, The Concept of it will never be obsolete. *BUT* the tank design and doctrine *CAN* and it currently is obsolete due to the proliferation of cheap suicide drones and portable anti tank systems.

[@skyejamss]

as of right now, with the current cost of ATGM (like the javelin, nlaw, and etc) significantly lower yet highly effective towards MBTs or MTs, MBTs and MBs are obsolete. This can also be proven by seeing the hundreds of Russian T-80s, T-90s and whatever T, destroyed by just a single round of ATGM used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, that cost significantly lower than the tanks themselves

[@ChemySh]

@@90enemies There's some Russian sources on twitter that says the Ukraine invasion plan was copied almost entirely from Russia's other peacekeeping operation, so the Russian army wasn't preparing to fight another conventional military like its own. Coupled this with Russia's top-down command style, their lateness in hitting the brakes has been pretty costly. My point is we shouldn't conclude current MBT designs are obsolete without examining how much of the trashing was due to Russia's organizational incompetence. There's also another point about the BMP being geared towards enviromental protection (launching offensives amidst a nuclear wasteland) at the expense of armor and ergonomics. A fair amount of this may apply to Russia's MBT design.

[@zee9709]

i think Tank would just evolve to less armored in the future since armor kinda useless nowdays with AT weapon so effective

[@90enemies]

@@zee9709 Probably yeah, we can see with how a lot of Nations are starting to invest in Light/Medium tanks (which are technically up-gunned IFV's) But we could be wrong if maybe a system like APS or laser makes tanks more protected from ATGM's in the future.

[@indrojoyo2667]

The background sound of the video is the Indonesian Military, Thank you for reviewing Harimau Tank

[@TheGrenadier97]

Very good. Always interesting to analyse weapons and systems developed for specific regional threats.

[@ours7907]

Our bridges are built with quality and tough materials, tested for a long time and cheap. That is a bridge made of coconut tree trunks ✌️

[@99Racker]

Did the plans include an approximate 25% horse power reserve design for future growth and local condition consideration? Looks good and you don't need the big guys.

[@sirburger5602]

Malaysia 🇲🇾 🤝 🇮🇩 Indonesia Brothers in Arms

[@emomales5782]

We are not, No matter how many you people screeching about serumpun thing

[@gantanachannel97]

🤫🤫🤫Indonesia gak butuh serumpun dengan malaysia. 😡😡😡

[@Wagnerboyan]

@@gantanachannel97 😳😳

[@Madrodji-v8z]

Not👎

[@oghuzkhan5117]

its just a bad ass medium tank. good jo Indonesia and Turkiye for cooperation !! Now come together with both countries gouverment support and produce the turret also together.

[@monangagustian3564]

Previously I was confused why they use Medium Tank designation, since the main weapon is 105 cannon, while there are some light tank with 120 cannon as main weapon. Now, thx to your video, I understand. They designated this tank as medium tank because of the better armor than light tank, while not as heavy/expensive as MBT. I think there will be a lot of demand for this tank, especially after what happened to MBTs and other armors at Ukraine. Expensive MBT without modern protection such as active kill and passive kill is an expensive target that can be killed with many inexpensive means. While IFV and Light tank with modern protection but rather weak armor are vulnerable to mine, IED or even high powered anti armor rifle.

[@nilihcrevo9820]

120 mm on a light platform isn't a good thing mostly. First is the platform possibly can't sustain the 120mm recoil, second is ammunition well because it's a small platform of course it can't bring a lot of rounds, third is the cannon itself yeah it's 120mm but is it like the MBT version? Or weaker one to accommodate the light platform 'lightness'. Armor wise the difference between light and medium platform aren't that many, an IFV cannon will be able to penetrate or disable both while the medium one will have a better survivability against mine/IED

[@thatoneperson6969]

@@nilihcrevo9820 The us 120mm gun have the AMP round so that their tank only carry 2 type of rounds

[@ReinhardtX57]

the harimau are using thicker plate armor than sabra or any other medium tank, that's why harimau is heavier. but its size is smaller than main battle tank. and 105mm cannon is enough to kill another medium tank. iv any country would invade indonesia, on land they will deploy light tank or apv because if they deployed main battle tank, it will just stuck in the mud because its too heavy for soft and muddy indonesia soil. so the harimau is so perfectly suited for indonesian army

[@dannyzero692]

I think this vehicle would be great for minor powers like Brazil and several African states, it would be a huge upgrade over their older vehicles without breaking the bank. The light tanks operated by the US, EU and China are made to compete with other light tanks belonging to each other which is why they're so heavy, expensive and overkill for the needs of minor power whose main interest is crushing insurgencies.

[@Sammysnows]

literally more advanced than T72, and more proper ammunition storage, like Japanese Type 10. I don't get why Indonesia is so obsessed with Russian tanks while their own design is way more Modern, good mobility in bad terrain, a good main gun with an autoloader system much better than Russian tanks. who needs armor when you can go fast and can provide infantry support.

[@raditya5663]

Russo autoloader literary an moving oven if it blew up the turret fly away

[@gendoruwo6322]

honestly, indonesians are possessed by the idea that USA + West = evil, and so they favor Russia mainly to spite the USA + West. also because indonesians are infiltrated by chinese wumaos, who always try to keep China's transgressions on Indonesia's Natuna down low.

[@unknown-or9lm]

Because we love rusia

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@raditya5663 Literally any tank will explode if you hit the ammo rack, duh. Unless it's an Abrams i guess, but good luck getting to the battlefield before running out of fuel.

[@christianmagbanua8567]

Its very sad. But we Filipinos want this tank. But due to initial requirements of the afp. That the light tank they choose was or has been in service.but we hopr that in the following years if this tank was able to service.theres a possibility that they will choose this tank.

[@c4ezar]

550mm penetration ratio at 5km, not bad This badass can kill MBTs if its necessary 🔥

[@isu152stalin2]

that is a falarick 105 glatgm while using the its own m1060cv apfsds it will penetrate 560mm so it can penetrate 10mm more

[@raff257]

There are some misinformation here, first of all there is a typo in the thumbnail, second at 8:09 no,the seperatist group in indonesia doesn't have ATGMs,maybe a couple of RPGs,but most of them use grenade launcher as an explosive weapon.

[@MUGEN_Fanfics_Maker]

good video to attract the attention of Indonesian viewers, you also have to review the Antasena Tank Boat too

[@deviandrianto]

bangga PT.Pndad bisa membuat Tank Harimau

[@petter5721]

I love the CV90-120 light tank 👍🏻

[@ivanngarciavillegas9865]

I really want to see the Philippine army use these tanks

[@alfaajiputra9495]

Unfortunaly they decide buy Sabrah Tank.

[@TNLable]

Unfortunately they once again resorted to excuses and reasons

[@rudykurniawan5520]

I can understand why Philippine choose Sabrah. When Philippine open tender for their tank, this Harimau still in development phase. And since it's not enter mass production phase, the price's too expensive. But i'm sure in the future, when this Harimau can prove it's power and ability, Philippine will choose this tank.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Light enough for most bridges, small enough for urban areas, big enough in firepower for supporting infantry.

[@Kupalski0031]

@@rudykurniawan5520 It would be illogical for us to acquire the Harimau MT when we already have the Sabrah Tanks in service. There's a strong likelihood that we will acquire more Sabrah Tanks in the future. As well as heavier Main Battle Tanks in the same class of the Leopard 2 (it is likely to be Leopard 2 given its prevalence in our region). To be honest, I would prefer to have the Harimau than the Sabrah tank to further strengthen our military ties with Indonesia but our procurement laws forbids us to procure unproven products or products still in testing phase.

[@kokorodokkidokki]

i really want to pick up my daughter from school with this vehicle. hope they make civilian version with affordable price

[@reserva120]

a part 2 down the road a ways would be wonderful.. Great Job.

[@TheOnyx_prime]

Indonesia did very good job on this tank..nice

[@DocApizz]

Hope Indonesia Will develop ifv class that fill gap in TNI inventory still lack in kind system'

[@hamzaouamrouche57]

Harimaru partnership between Turkey and Indonesia it's the medium tank with asymmetric warfare and environment

[@wirosisableng0073]

Ada yang salah salam video ini, Indonesia memproklamasikan kemerdekaannya 1945 , sedangkan 1949 itu versi Belanda. Terimakasih videonya cukup bagus dan menarik ❤👍

[@wustengeist1791]

The hull shape reminds me of BMP and Marder IFVs

[@uckiejaceolivo6100]

the tank is good the problem is the gun and turret made by belgium the belgian won't support or supply Philippines due to human rights issue so sad Philippine Army didn't have it we like the tanks but it supplier won't sell the gun and turret so in the end PA choose ASCOD 2 turn into Sabrah Light Tank

[@leks7954]

Iirc Philippines is also going to get these. I hope they'll name it Halimaw(Monster).

[@cerryoi7774]

Aku orang Indonesia dan aku bangga dengan negara ku walaupun ini medium bukan mainbattle tank tapi aku tetap bangga soalnya ini pertama kalinya Indonesia membuat tank

[@galihsaputra3590]

Kalau bangga boleh2 aja...tapi kalau tidak megembangkan ke MBT, eranya sekarang sudah masuk MBT lagi bukan medium tank kalau fungsi medium itu sebagai penutup kelemahan dr MBT yg tdiak bisa masuk hutan2 yg tidak bisa terjangkau MBT itu fungsinya, secara garis besar tetap fungsi tank MBT itu paling terpenting makanya harus segera bisa membuat tank jenis ini harus di fikirkan juga jgangan berpuas hati untuk pengembangan di medium tank aja

[@baigemaeskali]

@@galihsaputra3590 sudah tidak jaman bro tank2 besar begitu. Inggris aja udah cancel program mbt barunya lebih utamain medium ke bawah. Liat aja di perang rusia ukraina, tank rusia mahal gampang ancur ditembak infantri dengan dibantu drone2 turki. Apalagi negara kita kepualauan yg harusnya lebih banyak prioritas ke pembuatan kapal2 perang. Dan itu juga udah bagus apalagi kemaren udah jual berapa kapal bikinan pt pal ke filipin

[@galihsaputra3590]

@@baigemaeskali Kalau urusan kepulauan indonesia memang bagus makai kelas tank medium tapi coba kalau lawannya bertemu makai mbt juga tetap aja kualahan, tank medium itu harus ada pendampingnya juga begitu juga pula mbt harus ada pendamping tank medium, dan kalau mbt rusia kalah semua kan memang ada senjata anti tank juga sebagus apapun tank dan selincah apapun kalau berhadapan infatri yg bawa senjata anti tank pasti tank tersebut akan hancur juga lah...gimana kamu ini. Dan tank selain bisa di hancurkan menggunakan senjata anti tank seperti javellin memang bisa juga makai drone tapi itu juga bisa bisa di jatuhkan dengan arhanud konflik rusia dan ukraina itu kan memang kekalahan rusia belum ngeluarin arhanud paling canggihnya seperti Pantsir-S setelah di keluarin jatuh semua drone ukarina yg sebelumnya ngehancurin alusista rusia seperti tank dll. Dan permasalahan di matra laut kita ini hanya punya frigate kelas ringan dan kapal patroli, kalau kelas frigate kelas berat itu sudah kerja sama dengan inggris kelas arrowhead, cuma yg jadi masalah itu kelas destroyer kita ini tidak punya, dan kemungkinan besar kelas iver dr denmark mau di besarkan ukurannya mau di upgrade ke destroyer walaupun secara garis besar kelas frigate kelas berat sejenis kapal arrowhead setidaknya kalau negara kepulauan itu minimal harus punya kapal destroyer dulu.

[@danteeAus]

@@galihsaputra3590 harimau dibeli buat gantiin AMX bro krna masi sama sama medium tank. Klo ganti ke MBT semua malah mahal ntr

[@galihsaputra3590]

@@danteeAus Memang mahal tapi kalau di lihat kok tank sekarang mulai kembali era tank PD-II, kalau kita ngembari kerasa seperti kembali lagi ke era itu, yaa...walaupun murah tapi seperti kesannya itu seperti kembali lagi ke era itu kan tank di era itu ukurannya segitu kan

[@artillerymangaming]

Can you review this "tank boat" too? Antasena-class combat boat / X18 combat boat

[@Tounushi]

Kinda funny how MBTs arose from medium tanks, and now we're seeing medium tanks as a new tank classification.

[@tarjoahay]

Indonesia always try to create something new , for example Indonesia building tank boat which can be operated in sea and land

[@luqmanrashid1651]

harimau not only means tiger..it also means a day when you want a lot of things, hari (day) mau/mahu (want)

[@fdenrico9861]

bruh nobody said "harimau" in that context lol

[@xpcube]

nobody ever interprets it as that

[@iwanpanggala]

vangke.. 😂

[@Apa_yang_anda_pikirkan]

Negara tetangga Indonesia, M°°°°°°° Sebagian dari rakyat mereka menganggap medium tank ini, adalah buatan FNSS TURKIYE 🇹🇷, bukan buatan dari PT PINDAD INDONESIA 🇮🇩 Ini menunjukkan KECEMBURUAN mereka kepada INDONESIA 🇮🇩 dan itu LUCU

[@AceXT]

i think we need add the deployable atgm in Harimau for support if face with mbt or other, like in bradley, marder, bmp 1&2 atgm and not being like bmp 3 with no mbt support, maybe it can be a identical or mascot armored vehicle for Indonesia too inn the future, jut like bradley for US, marder for germany, bmp for russia

[@juniaristruman441]

Indonesia was founded in 1945, 17th of August.

[@hendrasutrisno4191]

49 is the year it finally officially recognized internationally

[@WeaponDetective]

We used the internationally recognized year of independence. We do not have any intention to offend the Indonesian people. If it is, we are sorry.

[@Aldnon]

@@WeaponDetective Founded doesn't means it get recognized by legitimate country. Declaring independence = 1945 Recognized by the Dutch = 1949 You said founded in your video, which means the moment they declared independence.

[@zzlhaiqal]

@@Aldnon if the admin says the indonesia got independence in 1945,the world community will mad bruh🗿

[@Aldnon]

@@zzlhaiqal Tbh it doesn't matter much nowadays...

[@csnnav5624]

i do not think it deserves the name medium tank, since it has weak armor and cannot stop a 30mm with an apfsds, should've been classed as a medium tank but whatever, pretty cool tank tho, do not know why wouldn't they just order more leopard 2's but okay, cool tank concept, i kinda loved the design, good job indonesia

[@Arllo25]

Thank you for discussing tanks from 🇮🇩😁😁😁

[@WKWKWKLAND]

the main reason why we make Harimau tank because our country has forests and mountains, before we had Leopard tank but MBTs couldn't pass through forests and mountains, that's why we made this tank. maybe we only use MBT in urban areas.

[@Hamss_]

Their separatist movement is generally not using much AK 47 like in the Middle East or other movement

[@basukijoggo8654]

Tank di era pertempuran modern menjadi sasaran empuk drone & rudal anti tank..tetapi tanpa tank pergerakan pasukan jadi lambat dan sangat beresiko..dengan pertimbangan tersebut maka tank tidak harus kelas berat..justru semakin ringan bisa bergerak semakin lincah..agar tidak menjadi target yang mudah di hancurkan karena bergerak lambat.. jumlahnya saja yang di tingkatkan /di perbanyak

[@maruphl4458]

Looks great for small countries where heavier MBTs aren't really suitable.

[@babangmuara.9161]

Indonesia sdh produksi masal tank harimau dn kendaraan lapis baja lain nya udh smpai angka 2000 itu sungguh luar biasa.😍🇮🇩💪

[@rims_86]

Ngawur

[@babangmuara.9161]

@@rims_86 cyp yg ngaur,,emg kendaraan lapis baja Indonesia udh sampai angka ribuan ditambah tank tempur,🥴

[@kakakiri2601]

if this tank have a remotely operated mg, maybe is very usefull

[@jinfat4664]

There is a local industry which supplies 12.7mm RCWS for indonesian locally made APC named pindad anoa.. i think indonesian army already have plan to integrate this rcws to this medium tank but it depends on Indonesian ministry of defense permission

[@kakakiri2601]

well maybe it depend on what customer need it, is a modular tank after all, you can place so many system in that turret

[@ajman66]

Looks like a really solid and well thought out Vehicle. I'm no expert but adding maybe a 20mm auto cannon could possibly really help in its Counterinsurgency role. What you you guys think?💥

[@khan_3834]

125mm gun is too big for light/medium tank

[@rainz4599]

@@khan_3834 I disagree, first of the cannon is 105mm and the tank weight 30 ton. While the USA new MPF tank also use a 105mm cannon and weighs 38 ton.

[@johnimpact260]

​​@@khan_3834he says add some additional gun to the tank like the 20mm auto cannon not replacing it with 125mm smoothbore gun

[@rafaasnawa2092]

try the Anoa Pindad combat vehicle

[@kotenara10]

Beside using an 105mm gun, i think there is more potential that Harimau could be used as an IFV like the German KF41 Lynx, a turret with 30mm/35mm autocannon

[@felldin]

This seems to be a missed opportunity for BEA Hägglunds to sell a mixture of CV90's.

[@Maxwellsbaldhead]

Usta güzel sayfa yapmışsınız yeni keşfediyorum başarılar.

[@Maxwellsbaldhead]

Şiveden türk oldugunuzu direkt anladım doğruysa lütfen beğenin 🙂

[@WeaponDetective]

Our narrator is a Turkish American.

[@fujii_natsuooooo]

do you have a plan to make video about marder ifv ?

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your interest. We have added the Marder. We will make a video as soon as possible

[@fujii_natsuooooo]

@@WeaponDetective nice thank you

[@naufalendram8063]

can you investigate the stealth warship trimaran from Indonesia too? Kri. Golok

[@WeaponDetective]

We are planning a video. Please keep up following us

[@kakakiri2601]

If the tank use 120mm i would call it medium tank because it have the same firepower as mbt, 105 more likely to be light tank like us m10 Booker

[@Rain_Azura]

Indonesia was founded and became independent on August 17 1945, not 1949

[@tongferlion]

mesia expressed interest in 2018.... beli jela wei... sapotla brader2. dan satu lagi tankboat Antasena :) 🙂

[@90enemies]

I see a lot of people especially Indonesians in the comments being adamant about Mobility and Weight. Let me ask you, is 35 tonnes light? To me you people are just describing 6x6 Badak by PT Pindad with 90mm cannon and weighs 12-14 tons. I'm still puzzled by Kaplan, especially on why it's not wheeled like Badak or the Japanese Type 16. If anything both Indonesia and Japan share the same Hilly terrains and they're both Island nation. Japan knows their MBT is too heavy and expensive, so they developed Type 16 for faster deployment and cheaper cost.

[@aligenderuwo6471]

Because Japan for a very long time have laws that prohibited export of weapons. Rather than trying to talk to them and the proposal is unlikely to pass, they'd rather choose a nation that doesn't have such strict laws.

[@90enemies]

@@aligenderuwo6471 I get what you're saying, but I'm not hinting that Indonesia should've striked a deal with Japan. What I was trying to say is, why not develop a Wheeled vehicle in the first place or expand on it, since clearly we have the experience with Anoa which is now turned into Badak Wheeled 6x6 armed with 90mm. And ignoring that, Japan isn't the only one with a Wheeled Tank Destroyer. Nation such as Italy (Centauro), French (AMX-10 and their latest EBRC Jaguar which would fit Indonesia perfectly), or South Africa (Rooikat). Countries which Indonesia already do buy weapons often from.

[@aligenderuwo6471]

@@90enemies oh that, to put it simply it's for the development of future indigenous tank, this tank (harimau) would give Indonesia an experience point to make their own tank so that in the future they can improve it or maybe make their own tracked vehicle such as ifv like the bmp3, spg artillery, APC, mlrs or even an mbt. It's just the starting point, no, the basic to make tracked military vehicle, then test them in un (very likely), improved them from the feedback. Since the anoa is already developed and it's already proven in un peacekeeping mission they didn't need to make a new improved version again, it's adequate. But tracked vehicle however isn't like that, there are no indigenous tank, spg, spaag or anything like that so they need to make them for future reference, as for 35 ton weight, it's simple, since there's turkey who know how to make a tracked vehicle, they might as well put as many technologies in it as possible and learn as much as possible from them, hence why it's a light tank but with quite amount of armor with nearing the bridge weight limit (most bridge only support 40 ton), sure they're modernized their amx13 but improving and making on their own is different. Same goes to the failed project of kfx/ifx, they're for future references and I bet that after this they'll trying to create their own turret and cannon system as well as fcs considering they still giving more attention to it's army while a bit neglecting their navy and air force. Damn, I'm too sleepy to correct my grammar

[@90enemies]

@@aligenderuwo6471 Yes, I definitely agree that they're using this for future reference. Rather than going on a tangent I'll get to the point, I still don't get why it needs to be a tracked platform, because a wheeled chassis is many times cheaper to make. And a lot of Indonesian in the comment section are very hard headed on Weight and Mobility, when both description fits Wheeled Platforms more. And Anoa being a proven platform is more reason to improve it even further, maybe turn it into a 4x4 so it can mount larger hardware like a 105mm canon. Harimau isn't the first time we've used Cockerill made Cannon and Turret either. I really just don't get it. KFX makes sense for reference because we locally don't have a broad experience with Jet platform, let alone a stealth 5th gen. But I can't say the same when it comes to Armored Vehicle, which like you said for the past decades the army have been getting more attention than the Airforce or the Navy.

[@aligenderuwo6471]

@@90enemies dunno, maybe the higher up knows something what we commoners don't and because of that it make sense for them to make a tracked vehicle instead of wheeled one, and yes embargo too, god knows when that happen so its just in case, also maybe they want to avoid the same mistake Iran made with their jets unable to get any spare part since they didn't make it locally. And there's also the matter of getting money, it's quite a nice tank and many people interested in it too, so maybe they make it so they can sold it into another country. And lastly the president want to develop the local weapon industry even further so this is probably one of their agenda even if it doesn't make sense.

[@kadirkaankulunk6166]

Türkiyeden Endonezyaya selamlar Endonezya arazisi için dogru bir secim olmuş leopard ve abrams gibi tanklar kesinlikle çamura saplanıp kalırdı şu an Ukraynada bu problemi yaşıyorlar

[@atm-abutaqimayestino]

05:17 I PROTEST. 🇲🇨 Indonesia's independence was proclaimed IN 1945. NOT in 1949❗ We got our independence in 1945 from Japan (before Japan: Netherland, British, France, Portuguese, Mongols, tried to occupy us) and THIS was INTERNATIONALLY recognized by Egypt, Palestine, Suriah, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi, and so on! And then we were attacked by the British with the Netherlands. Also politically, they were trying to divide us. But finally we got rid of them. So PLEASE, with all due respect, acknowledge this: 1945, not 1949❗ 🇲🇨

[@danipakpahan173]

Harimau platform can be modified to became IFV, APC and Will have Amphibious capability in the future. Indonesian marines in need to replace hundred of PT-76 Ex- Sovyet Era light Tanks. Harimau with Amphibious capability are the suitable option for the marines

[@wieariwibowo1775]

Amphibious? No. 30 ton plus never ever become amphibious.

[@90enemies]

@@wieariwibowo1775 AAV is 30 tons The only difference is AAV doesn't have a 105mm cannon.

[@wieariwibowo1775]

@@90enemies i mean up to 30 t tank/ifv vehicles. AAV is under 30t, amphb personel carrier and was born and designed as amphibious vehicle. 100% harimau basic hull never be developed to amphibious things.

[@unknown-or9lm]

This tank is pure battle tank because the engine located on the back

[@santosoabimayu]

The turret angle is Intereresting. For urban war.

[@marvingulanes5577]

though we went with the sabrah due to integration of already in use Battle management system from israel i still consider this tank Sexy AF

[@wieariwibowo1775]

Back then phil mindef actually got interested to harimau med tank, but the main problem was harimau use belgian cockerill turret. Fyi phil govt got banned to procured belgian weapon as belgia gave santion over drug dealers massacre. Other problems are the light tank procurment must already mass produced and battle proven. Other than that harimau actually suitable with philipines environment also have NATO compatible datalink and BMS.

[@beastkiller77]

the reasons why the philippine army did not choose harimau based on info i had is 1.harimau is not yet in service with the indonesian army or turkish army which will violate the afp modernization law that requires the unit in question must be in service with the country of origin or exported to at least 2 countries niether harimau qualifies 2.the philippine army require a medium tank and a wheeled tank destroyer indonesia did not have a wheeled tank destroyer 3.the waloon regional goverment in belgium impose an arms restrictions against the philippines which means the turret part of harimau is made in belgium so like k21 and harimau thats why israelis build a turret with south africa for sabrah light tanks if harimau or k21/105 wins there is risk that belgium will sanction the tanks for the philippines of course the philippine army wont take that risk so the choose ascod 2 and pandur 2 with elbit systems turret to become the newest tanks of the philippine army

[@zzlhaiqal]

4.too expensive,better buy MBTs than this tank,or buy his rivals which are more better

[@beastkiller77]

@@zzlhaiqal thank you for additional info

[@hanscumyeah4216]

@@zzlhaiqal Not true, Sabrah PH deals is even more expensive than Harimau deals, in fact Korean K21 was the cheapeast, the reason Harimau lose was because Elbit has lobbied far longer than everbody else, and they give lots of freebies to PH.

[@zzlhaiqal]

@@hanscumyeah4216 ik that,sabrah are more better than harimau

[@hanscumyeah4216]

@@zzlhaiqal nah you clearly dont know that

[@rubinolas6998]

That cannon kinda makes it look like a Leman-Russ tank

[@armantape]

in English it is called black tiger, a collaboration between Indonesia and Türkiye. greetings from Indonesia

[@susantoalqarnichannel]

Semoga Indonesia menambah jumlah unitnya sampai 300 unit

[@nyomanraiartaguna5030]

Isi tank bbm pke air kencing??

[@kangbams7943]

@@nyomanraiartaguna5030 emang targetnya kurang lebih segitu bro...

[@zzlhaiqal]

harganya aja mahal kek MBT

[@nippon1158]

@@zzlhaiqal kan masih awal pembuatan bro ntar lama² juga ada diskon turun harga

[@zzlhaiqal]

@@nippon1158 harapnya begitu la

[@abirhossen9063]

Bangladesh should've bought at least 2 regiment of Kaplan MT.

[@lowtdave]

Really good video. I really enjoyed the description of the environment the medium tank would be suited for. I'm glad you through in the couple sentences about the armor being modular and able to be upgraded to a little more effective level if needed. I'm curious what type of munitions are available to the 105mm cannon though. The guided missile is interesting and probably the preferred weapon against other tanks if needed but whats being used against infantry or small structures?

[@corvanphoenix]

105 mm was the standard Western MBT bore size until the Leopard 2 in the mid '70's moved it up to 120 mm. So there are all kinds of shells for it, including fragmentation HE, HE & HESH. High Explosive shells are excellent vs buildings, infantry & light vehicles. They're even good vs thin skinned armour, like APCs & Russian tanks.

[@MyBestBuddiesForever]

I wonder what types of Apfsds ammo it uses and also what penetration can it go trough.

[@lacsarlacsar3566]

yes, we have several option of armor here in Java. We have at least two type of armor, 1. Lembu Sekilan, 2. Tameng Waja. which one you could install on the vehicle depends on how many days the driver is fasting. and oh the place the driver is fasting as well, it can be a cave, a river, or a jungle. it would be even better if he does it at the river inside a cave, which is in a jungle. We have the tech for centuries, if not millenia.

[@mr.highground9250]

7:57 Because Indonesia Is an archipelago country, it make sense the enemy Will try to land with vehicle with 30mm Cannon

[@gemapatroman6238]

For correction, our country, Indonesia was founded (independent) in 1945, so not 1949. 17 August 1945 was proclaimed by the founder of the nation, Soekarno - - Hatta. But the Netherlands only recognized the Indonesian state in 1949. This was so that their military aggression in June 1947 & December 1949 was not referred to as military aggression against the territory of the independent Indonesian state. The Dutch wanted to re-colonize our nation after the end of World War II. but with all their might, the Indonesian people won in various battles against Dutch aggression, to maintain the independence of our country.

[@imam.pramono]

5:16 1949???...we declared independence in 1945...where did you get that number?

[@kam5588]

Speed and shot target 👍

[@albertsuseintsus7355]

2:04 Indonesia (Aceh empire) and turkey(Turkey empire) have relationship since 14-16 Century

[@ris6539]

Gaijin when??

[@churaurinvactorilikaprov2681]

Ye

[@ilhamn1177]

*it was founded in 1945, not 1949

[@boycreakcraft9106]

Tank Boat Antasena Is there a video yet?

[@billwhoever2830]

Considering the role its more of an IFV rather than a tank. Its not supposed to tank any damage (including rpgs) and its mainly used against infantry and machineguns. They could have considered a smaller gun like a 40 or 57mm against infantry for many reasons.

[@nye3477]

There's a reason why it has 105mm gun as even a 90mm gun is not effective against solid reinforced concrete where enemy infantry will be hiding as proven in battle of Marawi in the Philippines.

[@billwhoever2830]

@@nye3477 if the enemy is on a stationary position you can easily do more damage with a mortar (lets say a 120mm mobile mortar) someone could say that 105mm is still not enough to be called a "bunker buster" the mortar apart from having a larger HE payload would be cheaper and would allow the ifv to operate a more effective against infantry 40mm gun with airburst having a mortar carrier with every 4 or so ifvs is not such a big tradeoff

[@muhammadtjokroaminoto4523]

@@heartbreak0_1 actually, the 105 NATO ammunition used by Harimau is different than the AMX, the french have 3 different kind of 105mm munition, one for AMX-13, one for AMX-10RC, and one for AMX-30 (the same as Harimau since its 105 NATO)

[@hendrasutrisno4191]

@@heartbreak0_1 also AMX-13 is cold war stuff... IFV mostly used in modern time

[@snuckel4]

@@nye3477 Another reason is that the 105mm cannon and high elevation can made this tank act like a howitzer.

[@andryyyy792]

Great content!!