Harley guy hate’s the Buell Super cruiser

[@thomasreyes2857]

That Buell will leave you standing still. Don't play you know what's up😂😂😂

[@Dyna-mite154]

Yeah…. In 2026, but more likely 2027, once all the issues are sorted.

[@dnice4431]

I watched the video from beginning to end. You said they were overpriced and compared that to a Harley. The low rider S. You said 6k high. You bought a 23k bike and put another 7k in motor work and DID NOT COME CLOSE To the power of a super cruiser. Not close. You then put tons more in bars and lights etc. You can buy the super cruiser buy bags and an st fairing from advanblack for 5k AND Have over 60 more horsepower

[@Marvelkid87]

Cool man 👍🏽

[@sLowRider114.]

@@dnice4431 still going be 500lbs have u ridden threw the states? ur going hit heavy wind and rain that shit isnt fun on light bike. Cool bike if u got money and refuse to get a sport bike. I rather get bmw s1000rr for that price if i want go fast on light bike. To each their own… hope u buy it and tell us how u like it, im sure its a fun ripper.

[@dnice4431]

@@sLowRider114. I’ve ridden from mass to Florida on a 2001 Honda cbr 929rr and the weight of the bike had nothing to do with it. The riding position sucked. People cross the country on choppers and sport bikes etc. less weight equals better handling. Your argument is incorrect. Been riding for 35 years. ridden every kind of bike. Own the cvo road glide st. Which is almost 100 pounds lighter than previous models. Yet it handles better every where. Rode through a monsoon in Daytona beach bike week. Came through like a champ easier than people i was with. So yeah

[@johnmacias01]

Your right Buell SC is a lot of bike compared to the next guy. The weight is 420 lbs with a 175 hp. IMO Way about Harley’s & Indian starting platform! But American for Americans! Harley woke azz has sold out! lol

[@BrandonBicasso]

My guy said monetization is on 😂😂😂

[@Marvelkid87]

🤷🏽‍♂️ Lmaooo 😂😂😂😂 I couldn’t help my self these dudes have selective hearing

[@rumbeard8688]

I live here in MI, and have seen them ride down 131 and i-96. I'm gonna say something that people are going to hate on. It sounds like an R7. I really hope there's an aftermarket real quick. Otherwise dudes are going to be looking at FXRs that sound like a mid-weight sports bike. But that's another issue, aftermarket. These engines have been around for a while, and there aren't really any aftermarket parts for em. I would love to see it though. I think they're facing the right direction, but they've only stuck their toes out and announced it real loud. This is the third time Buell, as a company, has tried. I liken it to Norton. Huge following, tons of legacy, massive appeal, but really poor follow through. So, I'll say it again despite people already typing, I wish them luck, and I hope people find it worth it, but the aftermarket needs to get on board.

[@miamjb]

Ppl don’t know how to listen. They hear what they want. I think your first video review on the super cruiser was spot on. 👍🏽

[@Marvelkid87]

💯

[@petelarrier1811]

None of us want anything inaccurate said about us. That’s totally separate being impacted by difference of opinion or trustworthiness. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@BikesBeardsAndBrews]

Coffee?! Should've had some tea. I feel ya, I got similar comments on mine. People only hear what they want to hear and in some instances put words in your mouth so it fits their narrative

[@stretchman490]

I had a Lightning back when the Elves were still building them. Buell was a jack rabbit but lacked top end. The thing that made it great was Erik himself. It was a tight knit community. This go around it's not the same. They bought some parts and cobbled together a one off custom, which is cool, but they missed the mark when they decided to manufacture them en masse. I rode the later model water cooled Buells before they folded. The Vrod walked away from it. Plus, they had some issues with the motor, and couldn't get parts. All in all, it's a noble effort. Don't forget, Harley has the Pan Am. And the M8 tromps the torque at much lower rpm. Plus, longevity. Buell was only sustainable when they used off the shelf sporty parts. As soon as the xb came out, they started bleeding capital.

[@acim2228]

got my 2024 low rider st in march and big island having no dealership anymore I got mine from maui. 30K zero options paid cash out the door price. then dropped almost 10K more on all the good stuff. ive had many Harleys since 1976 choppers and ultra classic new road king new and to me too big too hard to turn and the st is killer looking. love it

[@gwentristan1368]

From a French guy. Although I think it will be unlikely that it will be marketed in Europe. I love this motorcycle, the concept. Indeed $26,000 is too much!!

[@michaelwynn6969]

I like the Buell bikes. A little pricey but maybe in a couple of years prices hopefully will come down.

[@tomtraynor5384]

Buell will never happen--except for a handful of prototypes made from the 10-year old parts bin. Ask Motus.

[@leward]

Shout out to you for addressing the comments with a video 🤣👏🏽 I agree that affordability with good quality is the goal, and that 24K asking price with a 2K discount for early birds would’ve been great. I don’t necessarily think the price on offer is a deal breaker, but it’s damn close.

[@sammyvices2547]

If there is plenty of aftermarket support for the Buell then it’s going to be another amazing bike for the people to choose from but sales will determine that

[@Thezerostatus]

No we don’t! I love Buell! He’s ld and the new! I also love my Harley!

[@hectorsantiago321]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍you told it like it is. RESPECT IT👍👍👍👍👍

[@Marvelkid87]

Always 💪🏽

[@883rydr]

My first bike was a Buell lightning and no matter what you say people will always twist and warp your words especially on this platform I'm a new sub from pa keep it up loving the content

[@Marvelkid87]

That’s awesome man as a buell past owner is this a bike that interest you ? And thanks for the sub 💪🏽🔥

[@883rydr]

@@Marvelkid87 definitely I rode it in Daytona and it was amazing I went to get one and the price is bad but at my local dealership it was over the price of the Buell but in all honesty I don't need a 180 HP super cruiser I'm just beyond happy with my dyna lowrider

[@brad3675]

As a Harley guy, now ex harley guy, i will NEVER buy another Harley again. The CEO and WEF aligned board members have utterly destroyed the brand.... #BoycottHarleyDavidson

[@tomoates8568]

What's your issues with them in particular? Is it for more political/social reasons, or because you just don't think the bikes are good for the money? Just curious, I actually own a Harley but it probably is the first and last Harley I'll ever buy. I feel like I could go elsewhere and customize a bike that'll be just as good for a fraction of the cost.

[@Dyna-mite154]

😂 tell me you’re a boomer without telling me you’re a boomer. Who gives a F what a CEO says or does. Heck, I don’t even know his name, I and all my mates ride Harley’s for the brotherhood, not a ceo.

[@teakey]

if you are saying it’s expensive isn’t that saying it’s not worth it?

[@fredslater5716]

Appreciate your perspective on bikes, brands and events. It’s not for everyone to agree but to offer up an opinion that creates conversation and insight. Keep doing you.

[@leftlane_miata]

I dig the honesty. It seems a bit ironic that you call the buell overpriced when you own a $24.4k MSRP FXLRST, which many could argue is also an overpriced cruiser. If you value performance over other attributes in a cruiser design, the extra $1600 over what you have doesn't seem awful... As more of a diehard performance motorcycle enthusiast though, I do agree that both Buell and Harley feel overpriced when I can go buy a plethora of sport touring bikes for

[@Baggersandbs]

😂😂😂 love the comments bro. Best part is reading them always. Great video jr.

[@satudave]

Wife and I just picked up a couple of new street glides st for $23500 each. Not saying that they are anyway equivalent to a Buell but damn I couldn’t pass on that price

[@MattieXMoto]

@maevelkid87 Buell specs are good. But the launch version doesnt have ohlins. The bigger issue is no reliability history. Less dealer support. The even bigger issue is the economy. Go look on cycle trader. 3k roadg. 2k streetg. 1k challenger/pursuits. All sitting at dealers. Brand new. My guess less than 500 super cruisers will sell nationwide.

[@noelpogiako1]

Just ignore those haters. Becuase that's what they do to pissed you off. By the way I did ride a Buell back then and ride like BMW but luck of support and limited parts if you need to replace one broken one. Like my freind he sold it and loosened a lot of money. Good content Bro. Fyi. we rode together at Indian demo at Motorcycle Mall when you still new as video blogger. Keep doing of what you do and keep it humble 🙏✌️

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

The Buell Super Cruiser looks like a Honda rebel. I really like what I have seen of the Super Touring. People pay 12k+ for a Janus. I been thinking about getting a super touring. I ride a xb12x now with 30k on it. I liked the Revolution and Rev Max engines. But Buell and Harley need some 1000 cc 185 hp to being on same fields as other manufactures. 73 c.i. engine producing 185 h.p. at crank isn't bad.

[@Marvelkid87]

👍🏽

[@maconmiles2057]

The problem I have with the price besides the bad economy is the super cruiser is NOT going to have all the after market parts people think it is going to come with. Buell has already said this. Buell has stated they are working with after market companies so there will be upgrades available. Anyone that gets this bike will also have to spend 4k or more making it their own and/or what they have seen is some of the concept bikes. I was excited about this bike and put $50 up for early access but I am going to pass. I have a bagger and a cruiser already. If I wanted a new cruiser I would buy a low rider S for much less money and then drop 6k to 10k in it with a much larger after market to choose from and have a bike that has a ton more TQ which is what really makes the V-Twin fun to ride and still having a good HP. Buell has also stated that many of the parts are just carry over from their other bikes, in fact all their bikes are this way. I wish Buell all the best same as I do Indian.

[@ryandenina7735]

Who will be the distributors??? The smaller dealer network would be my issue.

[@MarvFitBikesKicks]

Either they’re all overpriced or maybe this is just where the market is. I think the low rider s is overpriced by like 4-5k and at a 6k difference from the super cruiser the low rider s won’t get anywhere near the performance the super cruiser offers. To get the low rider s to where the super cruiser is you’ll probably need to put another 20-25k into it lol

[@stellarida8797]

Out of all the people out there on KZbin you are the most real!!! It’s funny cause as I was typing this you basically started saying exactly this. I make my comments as I’m watching and listening. Yes, you love Harley but I know you appreciate Indian and you said great things about Buell. The only thing you said was it’s pricey. I agree, a new bike to the market charging more than HD and Indian is a tough strategy. I always believe if you don’t have the market like Harley then you should try to come in cheaper than the leaders in bike sales. A smart strategy is to come in cheaper. People come to your channel with preconceived comments and don’t actually listen. If they think you are influenced by Harley then they should go look at some of the other content creators who never say one thing bad about HD. Keep doing you brother. Those comments are stupid as you pointed out again every good thing you said about Buell.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

How many People will build the Buell? Will have to wait another year to see them in Production. I don't know how many people have put a Deposit on one. They did get a $2,000.00 discount however.

[@creade3783]

I think its a shame that the bike in all the videos. Is not the same bike that you purchased. They dropped the Ohlin inverted front suspension, it has a generic exhaust system. And not the same seat.😢

[@SLIGHT_]

Troll level 1000. 😈 lol love this dude. “Monetization is on” perfectly said! It’s funny watching these types of videos as clearly the people posting this crap have not watched the full video. Smh. Keep up the great work dude. Psst. I also agree with you… price is high. Yet I expected it when they launched the prototype. Only issue I have is dealer support. You’ll never beat HD in this category.

[@charlesprice7608]

Bought my first Harley at 20, a 1990 FXRS, then had 2 more FXR’s. Bought a Buell lighting and will be first in line if the Buell Super Cruiser gets released. Don’t know what Harley guys you think don’t like Buell. Maybe these new wannabe’s that their whole identity is tied to HD. Kinda sad some people are so one dimensional.

[@MarvFitBikesKicks]

Harley has set the standard for overpricing bikes, especially in the cruiser segment. Indian and Buell are following suit. When Harley releases their super low rider s that thing is going to be 35k lol

[@icyGrip666]

Buell is going to have a pretty narrow market at the price. I think I harely is way over priced too. But harely needs an liquid cooled motor in the soft tails is this is actually a big thing the market wants.

[@Marvelkid87]

Would be cool for sure but idkn if they make it people will hate it and you’ll have your usual stubborn people who will say “ that’s not a Harley “ bring the dubs back “ 😂😂😂😂

[@josephfriedrich9792]

Been a buell fan and rider since the early 2000s. Was a ebr fan and rider in the 2010s. I'm not sure about this go around.... they have Jacob Stark, but I'm with you. Price is way too high. The adventure bike looks like a bunch of leftover parts. The rsd cruiser is going to be NOTHING like what their cruiser is going to be.(rsd and Indians collaboration looks more promising) but! But just like old buell and ebr, I give them 5 years till they run our of parts/bike supply

[@HDFXSB645]

I don't understand why Harley guys would have their panties in a wad over some Buell Motorcycles criticism. Do they know that Erik Buell nor Harley have zero involvement in these new Buell bikes? EBR was liquidated and the company that bought them (Liquid Asset Partners) owns the naming rights for Buell.

[@hizacaine]

All this butt-hurt just because Harley-Davidson hasn't released the Special American.

[@lastnline1]

Great video should have had oldschool Jerry on with you 😂💯

[@Marvelkid87]

Jerry’s was ready for all the smoke 😂😂😂😂

[@streetsean]

"I'm probably a Harley Davidson enthusiast" as he's wearing a Harley hat, Harley shirt, drinking from his Harley mug while sitting below his harley flag....haha...sorry, I laugh because I have all the same stuff. Great video and keep sharing what you think! 👍

[@Marvelkid87]

😂😂😂😂

[@BrandonBicasso]

Who I gotta pull up on Fam.

[@Marvelkid87]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@skyd1ver1]

I actually agree with mk87 - 26k is overpriced. I think people are missing the point when it comes to the base price of any bike. Virtually nobody keeps the bike stock - a lot of the pleasure of owning a bike is making it yours and buying/installing aftermarket parts... They'll do this with the Buell too. Even with it's extra horsepower etc, people will change it to make it to their taste. Just to add - Harley is overpriced too... but 26k for the base model is a LOT for what is essentially a naked sports bike.

[@davidmatias6239]

I freakin hate those cheap a- brake and clutch reservoir

[@Brittany-z1w]

Dont walk it back now we watched the video lol

[@Marvelkid87]

This is an automated system - if you’re getting this message it’s because you’re an idiot - please try again -

[@Brittany-z1w]

@@Marvelkid87 I thought you didn't care what people thought hahahahah

[@3percentmick705]

The fact is… the bike on paper is sick, but the price is wrong Bob!

[@Marvelkid87]

💯

[@JackCutter-w7e]

I am gonna buy a Buell supercruiser and attend Harley events🎉

[@Wes.jumpss]

Seriously. It’s WAY overpriced.

[@Marvelkid87]

💯

[@elithegreat6463]

Just wait a year, and the Price will come down. Plus, you never want to buy a first year model, especially from "Buell" with no real Dealer network, that "when" you have issues with that bike, it'll turn into a 30K Brick on two-wheels. It's a "Boutique Bike" with an unknown future. If you have Money to Burn, then sure, get it, but if you just want to be the Guinea Pig and be the first guy on Bike Night to have one, tread lightly, cause you will have issues with it. And that's why I Have a 2023 Triumph Rocket-3R and settled this issue 🤣

[@damianquezada8659]

Strictly here for the comments 😅

[@dustinkeim179]

26k for a play bike , I’d rather buy a Indian sport chief

[@Secondaries]

135 crate engine exists brotha...

[@kennethbaker8020]

Yo dawg f the haters the bike is overpriced for what it is its nice and shit,looks like my boy built in in his garage and ran out if dough,people out there minds,depending where u r 30g’s

[@_S.E.J_]

The pelicans that write all this are idiots brother! It may have a lot, but I agree missed the mark with price!

[@michaelwhite5834]

You're good. I don't know what anyone said, but whatever. As for the Buell, I do think it's a lot more attractive than the Indian. It just seems more authentic and performance oriented, rather than faux old-timey like the Indians. If you're gonna do heritage, and you're not HD, maybe don't try so hard with the old-man ornamental approach . . . anyway, I'll just keep on with my RG.

[@Marvelkid87]

👍🏽

[@tacosan9256]

Your right either way some of the Indians, the road master it’s ugly to me, old guys rule bike- I ride a Chief but have put a little modification into it to make it my own The Buell looks cool, but I watched Kaplan imports riding it and he looked like a bear on a tricycle- it’s why I went with Indian myself as I was in the street bob , Chief price range. Indian had a bit more space, my forwards feel like mid controls still

[@TheDans7300]

I dig it👍

[@Marvelkid87]

👍🏽

[@SP-xd8gs]

dont worry 2 years after it comes out it will be selling on FB market for $3700

[@MaxJW-ln4xm]

BWHAHAHAHA !!!! WAY TO GO on this video

[@tacosan9256]

Who cares, I like the super cruiser but a few things I’m 6’3 and it looks cramped, Also to be honest it would be a bit too much for me in power and price- but hey, I ride a 111 Chief and it does the job just fine for me

[@Marvelkid87]

👍🏽

[@socalgolf9978]

niche market

[@billyfinch7341]

Its sad you have to explain yourself to anyone, you are expressing an opinion that should be good enough, people cherry pick on what they see and hear and then express their opinion on the sole purpose of invoking a useless argument/ picking a fight, don't fall for it, Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience, Mark Twain

[@RyanTaylor1223]

I don't know MK87 but I can almost guarantee Harley dosen't give him anything free! I'm guessing he's had 1 or 2 trips to Milwaukee on Harley's dime but that's probably it. He's always spoken honestly whether it's good or bad towards Corporate Harley or their bikes. Y'all got his video wrong

[@Marvelkid87]

Honesty is the way 🙏🏽 and that’s what I’m hear for.

[@sLowRider114.]

Funny how everyone want compare the super cruiser to a harley…. Try taking that bike across states when u hit crazy wind and rain on a 400lb bike. This is a sport bike with a cruiser look. On top that yea it makes a lot more power then harley but do we know if this motor can even tour? cause the tires on it does not look like theyll last if your tour. Not hating on the buell i think this bike would be great for someone that lives 20 min or less to twisties or if you just want something fast to rip around but i dont see people touring with this.

[@mattsnipes257]

They rode them 1,200 miles to Sturgis.

[@sLowRider114.]

@@mattsnipes257 yea and i can do sturgis on sport bike that doesnt mean itll do it well. Have u road a jap naked bike in wind higher then 30mph? I ridden a lot of bikes in my life reason y harleys tour well is because of the weight.

[@sLowRider114.]

@@mattsnipes257 where did u see that? Looked like they trailered bunch out there and road out there. Either way its 450lbs have u ridden a bike that light in 40+ wind? Its doable but that shit is no fun. I can take a sport bike to sturgis and back but that doesnt mean that it can do it as easy as my harley. Different tools for different things.

[@1190Shellback]

Just want to respond because my comment was one that you read. Let me preface with this. I’m new to watching KZbin videos about bikes only because I’m interested in the super cruiser and want to read and see everything I can about it before it gets here. That said I’ve only seen two of your videos and it seemed like you were coming off negatively so I can’t speak for other people, but my intention was to try to balance, things out so people would not be dissuaded about the super cruiser. My reason for that is that Buell appears to be on the verge of putting performance and handling on the map for American cruisers. I love that Buell is bringing motorcycle manufacturing back to the US while others are moving it out. I don’t have to tell you how personally people take their bikes, I can tell you already know. But I will say I think a lot of the heat that you caught over that video isn’t about you or your opinions, but the fact that a lot of people are feeling betrayed by our most iconic motorcycle company going woke. Keep doing what you’re doing. I love the conversation. Respects.ps- new sub👍

[@Marvelkid87]

I respect that man 👍🏽 like you I’m also a fan and I want them to succeed. Just wish it was cheaper😂 I want one.

[@1190Shellback]

@@Marvelkid87 😂I heard that, you and me both!

[@socalgolf9978]

I just don’t get the market this is aimed at .

[@Schwab530]

Guys that want their FXR to go faster.

[@sdmascar8905]

Its overpriced but its on par with all the other overpriced bikes. How much would you have to spend to get a low rider s to have 170 hp?. Probably more than 26k so maybee its a good price.

[@michaelmaningding]

@infamousCreep