Harley Quinn 3x10 HD "The Joker talks to Ivy about Harley" HBO-max

[@chriskoloski32]

The fact that she starts breaking shit whenever someone points out shes slowly becoming a good guy kinda proves their point

[@Aflay1]

It....kinda proves something scarier than that. Harley...might have some form of approval addiction.

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@Aflay1 Have you seen the episode with her parents? It doesn't look like she got much approval in her life.

[@skyrogue1977]

She’s desperate to belong to something.

[@ChouRaiyuki]

I don't know if breaking Mad Hatter to death really proves that

[@rhunter42dragon]

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. 😄

[@indy-fs6de]

This is how you write Joker. He's in complete control of a situation without writers having to make other characters look inept or idiotic.

[@Aflay1]

And the best part is he's not entirely out of character. Taking over Gotham, being mayor, that's all still in character for him, at least performance-wise. We can appreciate his character development, while appreciating what a megalomaniac tyrant he can be. His good nature toward his family is wholesome, yet it keeps us on our toes, knowing that he may not share that sentiment or self control toward others at any given moment. These writers know how to make the show work toward their advantage, rather than against it, or in a predictable fashion like most Superhero shows do.

[@PK-MegaLolCaT]

@@Aflay1 he is out of Character.. but only cause his character Evolved and grew up during season 3. see the big difference between bruce and joker is a very simple one.. bruce with all his mental issues believes and has faith in his fellow human beings.. joker normally do not.. his trauma makes him unable trust in others.. he normally sees the world as being run by happy clowns and sad clowns.. and the sad clowns are the one who get the pie thrown at their face.. joker in his normal state as a batman's main nemesis do not believe in the inherent good of society as cooperation effort . the comicbook Three jokers ..makes the case that the reason this is was cause in the killing joke his wife didnt die.. but just ditch him after giving hope.. in other words .. his original wife turn the flashlight off when he was half way across. but all this changed for the joker in the show when he gain a new family. in season 3. at that moment in the show joker heals the very reason he was the bad guy in the first place... and all that force of nature that he represents start actually helping society to get better.

[@brandonfelarca1721]

@@PK-MegaLolCaT i mean hes been written as a self sacrificing hero before in justice league ultimate and he still had a mental disorder.

[@Velestra]

@@PK-MegaLolCaT Joker in a way is still in complete joker character. look at it this way, in season 1 he found out who batman was so it killed the joke for him. in all canon of the joker when batman dies he stops being joker. so in this instance he knows who batman is but batman isnt dead so hes still the joker but not insane villian. he is just insane regular citizen.

[@brandonwhite1585]

This is literally my favorite Joker ever. He is legitimatly funny, but also relatable while still holding up to being classic Joker.

[@charlottea.cavatica1696]

Wow. Even though Harley isn't much of a sane mind anymore... She still understands the importance of keeping her client's identity a secret.

[@Cugastratos]

I love how her old psychiatrist education just seeps out as needed.

[@DeathSithe92]

She seems very much sane...

[@helton3425]

@@DeathSithe92 bitting someones nose off sane?

[@cunningsmile4166]

"Behold. The face of TRUE sanity." - Valeska

[@o.h.x-9062]

Uh, she told Batgirl and Nightwing about Bruce's identity. Some therapist Harley is!

[@fumarc4501]

“I’m both a maniacal force of nature and I want free universal healthcare. People can be more than just one thing.” Damn, what a powerfully combination of phrases.

[@soaringeag1392]

Sounds like a few politicians around the world

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Kinda weird tho ain't it? Like why would the man with 0 empathy want that?

[@rararasputin8608]

I mean, at the end of the day it'll still be our backbone. I lost a job or two over healthcare malarkey, I just want that stuff to be consistent.

[@MrRawrCEO]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Mainly for his kids probably...and also because he knows it's popular and it fucks with the existing corporate run system. A disruptive showman like the Joker probably sees a LOT of appeal in that.

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 It's pretty in character if you think about it. Most of Batman's rogues gallery have a justified motive for their actions Harvey exposes the corruption of the justice system, Ivy wants to save the natural world from humanity, Freeze wanted to save his dying wife. But Joker never does anything for a justifiable reason, he does everything the sheer pleasure and right now he takes pleasure in creating an environment that his step children can thrive in.

[@trollmaster4523]

Man Harley is like the sister Bruce never had. When she said Bro I felt that. I don't know but when characters especially opposite genders have great platonic friendships it actually feels refreshing rather than cheap romance.

[@FiveTen007]

She's like the psychiatrist bruce never had, which she is a psychiatrist.

[@Novictus]

Holy shit yes. Cheap romance overtaking friendships hurts so many narratives. Like how people wanted Jayce and Viktor in Arcane to be more than friends.

[@cameronmcewen9666]

Bruce had a brother on Earth-3.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

@@cameronmcewen9666 Didn’t that one become Owlman? Or was Bruce the one who died and the brother became Owlman?

[@MegaManDBZX]

He has a cousin, but she has her own issues and Bruce’s daughter doesn’t like her that much.

[@mauriceisaac3646]

I like how they made the Joker a cool guy without compromising his Joker-ness.

[@TheFunnyDictator]

2K likes and no replies?! I'll fix that!

[@TheFunnyDictator]

Please reply to me, dude!

[@TheFunnyDictator]

Since your account is 12 years old, can you please give me some life advice?!

[@xavierzabie8184]

​​@@TheFunnyDictator Yeah get off the internet, touch grass, and don't revolve your identity around a loser from the 20th century who was salty he lost a war so decided to genocide whole groups of people... Not just Jews.

[@_starlinx]

@@TheFunnyDictatortf

[@JC42023]

I get Harley is probably resentful for making her stop Ivy's plan... ...but still, poor Bane

[@hasturthekinginyellow5003]

He just doesn't catch a break, does he?

[@lucas_leoheart]

even the part of the episode with a clooney batman reference lol

[@fumarc4501]

If Bane is left to his own devices, he tends to help more than harm. Which can be a vulnerability few can afford if they want to take over the world.

[@Aflay1]

@@hasturthekinginyellow5003 I mean, he caught a break once.

[@Subpar1O1]

@@fumarc4501 except the Legion of Doom chair thing and the trying to blow up a restaurant to get one snarky employee back, but other than that he's an honest guy

[@RisachanXxX]

I actually liked that part. Because Joker is one hundred percent right. Of course it's for his self gain to not have his brain bashed in and go on with his night's plans, but he also is the best one to knows the off things about Harley. Obviously it's because he's an ego maniac and he knew how to play Harley like a diddle from their toxic relationships, he knows where to push and where not to push to not break her. Ivy despite having real feelings for Harley doesn't, and was pushing Harley towards something that would on the long run make her miserable. The difference is that Joker did it all knowingly while Ivy doesn't as he said in this clip. He hit two birds with one stone, because he got himself spared and able to go on his day, while giving a helping talk to Ivy for Harley and solidifying their relationship, which in the long term would make them go off his back. (One could argue it was for Harley's sake as well, and who knows maybe since in this version Joker seems to actually have changed a bit, but 80% of that decision was for his own gain of having them both off his back imo)

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I mean regardless of how nice you are, playing therapist for someone with a bat to your head will be 80% self preservation.

[@fumarc4501]

Mastermind doesn’t always mean malicious, but that problem can be solved in ways that help our enemies take care of themselves. I call that a win win.

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

Something I learned from my years is this. The worst type of people, are knowing manipulators The most dangerous type of people, Are those who Don't realize they are manipulators.

[@ChouRaiyuki]

What's impressive is that while it is clearly to save his skin everything he says here is 100% true. And it's also clear that despite the very real possibility he'll die in this situation anyway he never wavers nor shows any sign of fear and it's quite likely that's genuine too because as insane as he is he DOES nevertheless have a good grasp on other people's minds. And that in itself would also make him an effective politition (hence why he very well CAN be mayor)

[@SnazzyjazzBro]

@@ChouRaiyuki the guy has done some bonkers plans across various stories and had cheated death multiple times (and sometimes braces himself for it). To say the joker doesn't fear death is an understatement.

[@primecoconut4204]

no matter what you do to The Joker, he literally does nothing but ask and speak the bitter and cruel truth. But what makes him dangerous is that once he gets to know you, he already has you as his tool

[@cameronmcewen9666]

That’s how Harleen Quinzel became Harley Quinn.

[@fumarc4501]

Hence why the Joker makes for such a good politician.

[@hamham0317]

Never forget that in Justice league unlimited there is an entire episode where batman is trapped and just talks to whoever is guarding him sowing chaos Highlight Joker to Lex "Take it from someone who knows /taps pistol/ Don't wait

[@ashwolf2006]

@@hamham0317 man i love that episode, it just shows that even if you got the bat cornered and tied up. he'll still find way's to mess with you he even got cheetah falling head over heels for him and ultra humanite to betray Lex. but the icing on the cake is the looney tunes skit joker pulls at the end.

[@aofdiamonds4389]

Such a cool characteristic

[@bushidotestu1997]

“I’m both a maniacal force of nature and I want universal healthcare” That’s definitely someone’s future campaign slogan

[@coltonwilliams4153]

The fact that it would work is frightening.

[@tarot3078]

I would vote for them

[@GaryTurbo]

Bernie Sanders

[@aloysiusfinch]

Joker's manipulation here is SO GOOD. 0:05 "I've never known Harley to be a sloppy ropeswoman." He's planting the seeds here to show that Harley is off her game, probably distracted by something. 0:30 "People can be more than just one thing" showing that Harley is also evolving like Joker. 0:52 "Does she still put one giant cardboard box in the recycling bin?" After seeing Ivy realizes what Joker is doing, he pulls back with a seemingly harmless quirk about Harley that he knows Ivy will pay attention to to get her to break down her guard. The next scene we see both of them, they're chatting casually like friends. 2:21 "You know what I really loved about her though? The way she went along with whatever plan I asked her to do, even when I knew she hated the idea." Joker then points out the obviously toxic parts of his relationship to get Ivy to call him out on it, and Ivy takes the bait completely. 2:29 "Well you know, add that to the shit pile of reasons you were a total partner and narcissist." And with that line, Ivy seals her fate. Joker sees exactly what's going on with Harley and Ivy and the minute Ivy calls him out, he is quick to flip the table on her. 3:09 "I didn't want to bring out the big guns but when did you ever see Harley forget her bat?" The nail in the coffin. Ivy never stood a chance.

[@Nitram4392]

Seems like a good example for showing the viewer, that someone is smart instead of telling the viewer that they are.

[@DamienDarkside]

Also shows what the Joker is too, a Master Manipulator. Sometimes, just as much as some Batman Media show too much "superhero" and less "world's greatest detective", you can go "too crazy" with the Joker. People forget that he's not physically strong (not supposed to be) and he's supposed to be able to counter all of Batman's strength and training with manipulations and subterfuge. I love it when he does things like this as much as killing random people. The Joker being a politician makes absolute sense, so much sense that the Batman series did it before with Jack Napier becoming a politician after being "cured".

[@tonuahmed4227]

Devils most powerful weapon...people manipulation...well this devil became good so...

[@Erine120]

Never ever let the Joker speak the minute they didn’t gag him I knew he was talking his way out

[@TheGeoCheese]

I don’t think this was malicious manipulation here. This is more like Joker is taking a chapter from the psychologist handbook to help a relationship while also at the same time keeping his brains from getting smashed to bits. Still that was well played on his part.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I love how insightful this Joker is, the show actually does a decent job of portraying intellect in a casual manner.

[@jamses4532]

Best line is that people can be more than one thing, and that's definitely what a lot of modern portrayals of various DC characters have been missing. Love this show so much!

[@filippofittipaldi8050]

I'm a decades old DC fan, but I truly enjoy how this show paints the characters in a hilarious new way. It's as if SNL was writing for DC.

[@rattles2326]

Somehow more realistic? Not really how they do stuff, but a lot of petty small stuff that humans do when they're not in control, poorly thought out snark, breaking stuff out of spite, shit like that.

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

More like venture bros. Snl is ass garbage

[@anonygent]

Bad analogy... this show actually manages to be funny.

[@keizerfreeman3320]

you’re showing your age bro snl analogy is more of an insult nowadays lol

[@falconeshield]

@@keizerfreeman3320 It's more Reddit now

[@simpleplanfan011]

The writers of this show need an award. They managed to reinvent decades old characters in a way that’s not just natural, but satisfying as well.

[@YoungClarke]

Joker being a great step father and mayor still just makes me so pleased. Probably my favorite depiction of him, and bizarre as that may be. They took a character people were familiar with and knew 100% in and out and flipped him on his head, entirely new direction, and made it work. I'ma be bummed if they make him turn heel

[@cunningsmile4166]

Behold the face of TRUE sanity

[@l0sts0ul89]

Just because one flips a character doesn't make them good

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

@@l0sts0ul89 But this case is a good example, since it still keeps to what makes Joker such a great character, and this scene proves it.

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

It really feels like the writers got sick of the same "it's joker but he's super edgy" thing. Like, you wouldn't in a million years see an edgy teen posting a picture of this joker with a quote about how "mad" they are onto their social media

[@ODDnanref]

@@SilverHairedFreak25 Yeah, but that is good writing and knowing the character. It has little to do with how they flipped him. Even the phrase "flipped the character over his head" is somewhat wrong because he is still the Joker, you can see it in his actions and hear it in his speech. It is what makes this a great Joker interpretation. They took the character and out him in a different situation. Gave him a family but did not change him. Different from the white knight comics where do a flip on him. This is the usual Joker but his circumstances are different and it works because he is the Joker.

[@tomnorton4277]

"Of course... I do." Kaley Cuoco's brilliant. That little pause is exactly what the line needed to convey that Harley isn't sure about this. I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Back when Kaley was cast, I thought something along the lines of "this isn't going to work". I was completely wrong and now she's my favourite Harley.

[@cameronmcewen9666]

Kaley should cosplay as Harley at a Harley Quinn panel at Comic Con.

[@Andrea-rc1gz]

Yes I don’t even care if she doesn’t have the accent I think it represents harleys evolution because she sort of has the accent when she visited her parents/flashbacks with the joker so i think the lack of the accent represents her detaching from her trauma

[@rararasputin8608]

@@Andrea-rc1gz Still has the unhinged air and yet has a more composed side of things, good take on things.

[@comparedWJ275]

Yea I wasn't a fan of her take in the Batman Harley Quinn movie. It just felt forced like when Brittany Spears was faking her British accent. This take really grew on me

[@tomnorton4277]

@@comparedWJ275 That was Melissa Rauch. Kayley Cuoco has only voiced Harley in this series.

[@lightbringer34]

Allan Tudyk is a blast as the Joker and I’m having a tough time hearing Ivy sound like anyone else now. The voice actors were so well-cast!

[@FrancisCastiglione]

They definitely can act pretty damn marvelously with just their voices, but they'd be unrecognizeable as Harley and Ivy unless you're already familiar with the show. But i mean, i guess that's more of a me problem as the Ivy i've gotten accustomed to over the years were of Batman: TAS, and the Arkham games, in which she has a more sultruous voice while Harley would have her typical overtly-Brooklyn accent.

[@ericnierstedt6242]

I really love this moment because it shows so clearly the fatal flaw they were building through the whole time. This is where Ivy realizes that Harleys tendency is to always go along with the other person in the relationship. Even when it’s something she doesn’t actually want she’ll do it out of fear of losing the other person. The joker realized this and used it to manipulate her. And while her relationship with Ivy is much healthier it was also causing the same reactions from Harley and ivy just realized that if she didn’t stop She’d be doing the same thing as the joker

[@kellharris2491]

And what's cool is this is a real relationship issue. Some people that have been abused have this very unhealthy attachment style.

[@jessicamurphy5553]

I do like how subtle it was up to this point that Harley was following the toxic pattern of going along to whatever her partner is doing. I just thought she was trying to be supportive for Pam, but Joker really stroke the nails head with that. Also Pam not realizing that in many ways she’s also toxic just because she actually loves Harley unlike the Joker is good writing. I hope she is open to change

[@jess-dn4th]

yeah same i was slowly noticing Harley’s pattern in her relationship with joker reflecting with her and ivy just in other ways. the way harley is willing to completely lose herself in whatever partner she has.

[@frankielovejoy9928]

I've heard that's a thing with those in toxic relationships, and even after the victim gets out of it, it's possibly they will end up leaning on another abuser because they don't know what a healthy relationship actually looks like.

[@JWheel5]

Well, Poison Ivy and Harley destroyed the Legion of Doom and saved the world from Lex Luthor. In the aftermath, the couple started a new team of crimefighters, the Gotham Sirens, with Catwoman and Oracle. So, Ivy is apparently open to significant changes.

[@Gooberwares]

She always went along with a plan EVEN THOUGH SHE HATED IT OH NO

[@destroyerblackdragon]

It really highlights that Harley has dependency issues. Before she stuck with Joker no matter how bad he treated her. Now she's doing it with Ivy.

[@fumarc4501]

Harley had dependency issues too, something Dr. Quinzel can probably help her and Bruce with.

[@Angyali]

@@fumarc4501 Which means Harley has to let her old self return to the surface. Permanently.

[@omarcogle1965]

@@destroyerblackdragon That's exactly why Harley needs to take care of herself as a person before deep diving into another relationship with someone. When Ivy wanted to work on her project alone, Harley felt abandoned, and it wasn't that serious.

[@sakuracardcaptor4709]

@@destroyerblackdragonPartners in crime never change

[@totalcreativegaming6681]

I like how they’re actually taking the whole thing about Harley being Bruce’s therapist seriously.

[@robertthreadgill5356]

i'm enjoying Bruce and Harley's growing relationship in the show. she's becoming like both his friend & personal therapist at the same time. this is actually a lot like their relationship in the prime comics(& injustice) Bruce keeps Harley grounded, and Harley keeps Bruce from being broken. Now that I think about it, does Harley have any other hero friends beside Bats

[@coltonwilliams4153]

There’s Barbara. She’s also affiliated with the Birds of Prey, so Black Canary, at least. I also think she and Booster Gold had a decent friendship going, but that could’ve been restricted to Heroes in Crisis.

[@robertthreadgill5356]

@@coltonwilliams4153 actually now that you mentioned it, Harley did have a brief relationship with him at the end of Harley Quinn rebirth. thanks

[@nooneinparticular5273]

Man, this show really went from the show where Harley accidentally gave a dude cancer with the cancer ray gun to having stuff like this surprisingly wholesome, earnest scene where Harley starts getting back in touch with who she used to be and practicing psychiatry and being a doctor and talking out her differences with her girlfriend in a healthy way. And it still feels like the same show. Big props to these writers.

[@rygornspectre7142]

"I didn't want to bring out the big guns but ... when did you ever see Harley forget her bat?" *Proccesses the entire collective knowledge and secrets of the Universe* Holy shit, he's right!

[@fumarc4501]

I wondered when others would notice. Nyhehehe

[@thejestor9378]

If she doesn’t have the bat, it’s a gosh dang hammer or mallet.. and if neither of those, bud and lou are with her.

[@Silvertardis]

Strictly speaking she misplaced her bat in episode 11 of season 1, so she used Clayface as one.

[@angelgabriel1825]

Can you explain plz

[@Silvertardis]

@@angelgabriel1825 The one where they go inside Ivy's mind.

[@Bollywoodlover100]

bruce and harley relationship is cute

[@fumarc4501]

Agreed! I can see them having both a professional and platonic relationship. Friends and confidants, if you will.

[@CloudHiro]

she became bruce's helpful but chaotic little sister at this point I love it.

[@itzzzdionec]

Brother and sister love

[@AdrienMelody]

I can’t believe how well-written the characters are in this show, I’m so happy they’re being treated with such respect

[@clarkname9345]

Ivy needed this reality check. I was scared Harley was gonna fall into this do whatever my partner wants/says thing with her like she did Joker. I can’t believe it took Joker to turn the light switch on lmfao That “Ooohhh. Just me?” took me out 🤣

[@gebus1199]

Man, never thought I see the day that the joker is the legit voice of reason.

[@sycho-tech5104]

Joker is Antithesis’ incarnate. wean control and order are dominant he is chaos and insanity, wean chaos and insanity are dominant he is reason and control. He’s a master of controlling chaos, no matter who is wielding it.

[@kellharris2491]

I don't know. I always felt like the Jocker had a way of pointing out the truth that people didn't want to know. He would use the truth to tear people down and manipulate them.

[@TheElementsAreWithMe]

"When did you ever see Harley forget her bat?" That realization hit me as hard as said bat.

[@randompoet9997]

They were building up harley and ivy to begin a very toxic relationship that really only loved the fact that they were together, but didn't actually love each other, so I'm glad they're actually addressing the issue here.

[@weep1ngxngel]

What does he mean by "when does harley ever forget her bat" is that implying she is backing out and using an excuse to psych her self up to actually do it

[@rattles2326]

It implies that her heart isn't in the action, whether or not she realizes it.

[@omarcogle1965]

Harley with either her bat or mallet is like Linus with his blanket.

[@omarcogle1965]

Harley with either her bat or mallet is like Linus with his blanket.

[@omarcogle1965]

Harley with either her bat or mallet is like Linus with his blanket.

[@TimothyCollins]

The evolution of Harley is surprising and entirely logical. Everyone knows her as a crazy villain but at the same time she’s also a phd level psychiatrist that obviously spent many years helping other people so this turn is entirely in character.

[@gageunruh3574]

Eh. She didn't really earn her diploma as in the comics she got it by sleeping with her professors. She has skills but there is a reason so many people are able to get to her

[@awkwardukulele6077]

@@gageunruh3574 did she do that in the show though? Haven’t seen that much yet, but she seems like she earned her phd fair and square in the show.

[@mr_barreraa]

I love how Harley is still a professional psychiatrist by heart even though she became a villain/anti-hero.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I like that little parallel where Joker and Batman brought up how Harley stopped her plan one day and they find it hard to believe that she’s just going along with Ivy’s plan today.

[@cardbutton892]

God, Joker, calling Ivy on her shit so casually.

[@jeweltara]

I never thought I'd see the Joker making someone else realize they are being a control freak with a pot/kettle argument.

[@riolukid1080]

God there’s something really fucking enjoyable about the Joker in Harley Quinn lately, he feels so fresh and yet still the same old Joker we all knew. Hell this Joker may as well be tie with Mark Hamill Joker for my favorite Joker

[@Angyali]

I think Alan used Mark's vocal performance as the foundation for his own.

[@alexpalaciossantos4940]

i absolutely love the jokers theme. especially as hes talking, rly conveys that he knows how to play people to his advantage. this show is great. the first few episodes of the season were not the best overall but it really picked up!

[@jazzycat8917]

Love when they actually show Harley using her psychiatry/therapy skills

[@stratifacations8377]

This is the only time Mark Hamill hasn’t voiced the joker in an animated series and I didn’t absolutely hate it

[@Demonologist013]

This guy is an amazing Joker. Glad he was able to get a chance to do this

[@cunningsmile4166]

Nope. Jeffe Bennett (who voiced Johhny Bravo, Brooklyn and Owen in Gargoyles, Dexter's dad, Kowalski the Penguin, Dr Hamsterveil, Ace from PPG, principal Luna, Drix, ) voiced him in Batman the Brave and the Bold

[@Demonologist013]

@@cunningsmile4166 He wasn't a good Joker though

[@andrewt329]

@@Demonologist013 Why not? He fit the silver age camp perfectly.

[@thetruenemesis469]

Kevin Michael Richardson's take on the joker from The Batman was great. Really unhinged and maniacal.

[@bioniclelegend7]

I feel bad for bane. His self esteem snd anger issues has been getting better. He doesn't deserve to be insulted like that

[@indra-ty9iz]

Just remember he the only one that can give fatal blow to batman when duel with him

[@justarandomchick767]

i just hope they stick to anti hero harley. like she'll still beat people to a pulp but also help people. i like characters that are moraly gray. like for example deadpool

[@thelooser1789]

Well even though she did it for a good reason, ivy did manipulate Holly to break up with joker.

[@beautifulspacesllc]

Uh disagree, she made a plan so Harley could see jokers true feelings and actions. Harley was free to choose to stay with him if she wanted

[@thelooser1789]

@@beautifulspacesllc yeah that's why I said it was a good reason

[@mufasa9454]

After this episode was over, I thought to myself, “maybe King did burry Bruce’s parents and not eat them.” I also felt bad for him when Clayface told him the hug didn’t work😢

[@HellishSpoon]

Joker using his manipulation tactics to help ivy see her problems is honestly inspiring, he is still being the joker using his charms and psychopathic tendencies but now it helps people, so cool seasom 4 made him go back to being a villain, and im sad

[@vexxama]

Yeah, I actually liked weird dad joker, was refreshing after all the other interpretations of him. Like him psychotically flipping out over homework, relatable and in character for any joker, but still something new to see

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Man, seeing Joker offer legit good relationship observations, albeit in a mocking "who's fooling themself now" kind way, is really trippy

[@cosmomind7469]

Harley became a villain because she wanted to be with Joker She stayed a villain because she wanted to prove she’s competent without Joker Now she has nothing to do with him and is just being herself, and shocker she’s actually a good person, which doesn’t make a villain

[@tobsonasanya4765]

except she was still a villain after leaving joker lol

[@justynhill4814]

@@tobsonasanya4765- it takes time to find out your not as bad as you make yourself.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@justynhill4814 ??

[@kellharris2491]

I think she is more of an antihero really.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@kellharris2491 eh hasn't she killled many

[@NatalieRath]

I love how the story went White Knight with Joker. He's still mostly Joker with the sanity of Jack Napier and with an insatiable drive to make the world a better place for his step children.

[@kellharris2491]

Even evil people have loved ones. Or lines that can't be crossed.

[@saumyaseyon1112]

I like how theyre emphasizing the parallels btw Ivy and Joker by the fact that theyre BOTH green and purple (with Ivy wearing that dress)

[@honeylemon2372]

“Just hit it with your f-ing bat!” 😂🤣😭😭😭

[@jordanloux3883]

The giant cardboard box is there so you can put everything else in the box and don't have to drag the recycling container back and forth!

[@amandaarlt4948]

I do that too!

[@bearpoints]

that's honestly how my stepdad taught me how to do the recycling, put everything in the biggest box and tie it all up

[@tyrant-den884]

"Maybe not on purpose" This line actually shows how much Joker changed. Not to long ago he'd be all over "we're the same, so and I" stuff to just uncontractively break Ivy.

[@anthonyserna2710]

Harley is complicated she is not a hero she’s not a villain as much as I wanted her too. she is an antihero

[@tobsonasanya4765]

eh still killed may people

[@demons27]

@@tobsonasanya4765 Black Adam. He's an antihero & kills people

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@demons27 eh hasn't black adam always been a villain. plus i find it hard they arrest bruce but do nothing to ivy or harley?

[@Waltersop]

Shes a vilain who always killed for selfish reasons

[@frogglen6350]

@@tobsonasanya4765 Most of the people they killed deserved it tho

[@SIedgeHammer83]

As Lex Luthor said it. "There are heroes who pretend to be villains and villains pretending to be heroes"

[@tobsonasanya4765]

harley ain't a hero lol

[@sylvyboi]

@@tobsonasanya4765 right she's an ANTI-hero

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@sylvyboi eh kinda feel many let her off easy

[@kameronjones7139]

@@sylvyboi maybe an anti villain in some instances

[@justynhill4814]

@@tobsonasanya4765- she can make up for it.

[@oddthequiet4868]

Aww. Right in Bane's feels.

[@mlpb]

Bane didn't deserve that, c'mon

[@d.phantomfan1216]

I love how the show found a way to make fun of the overuse of Batman's origin. And use it to further explore Bruce Wayne's character.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

0:51 I can’t tell if Joker hated or liked that about Harley

[@Embermoon91]

Joker now appreciates Harley and, in his own way, is looking out for her best interests. He'll always have a soft spot for her.🥰

[@elizabethgregory3352]

na, he was definitely trying to save his own butt here. he's just crazy good at reading people and unfortunately how to use them for his own gain. but this time he does it in a way to help Ivy since he knows that she actually cares about Harley and would do anything to ensure her happiness.

[@Embermoon91]

But he admits that he did actually love Harley at one point in time but didn't want to admit it then cuz he saw it as weakness. So, he does still care about Harley, even as just a pseudo friend, he just won't admit that. If he didn't, he wouldn't have pointed out to Ivy that she was (unintentionally) making Harley do something she didn't want to do. True he was trying to save his own ass, but he knew damn well what he was doing by giving Ivy relationship advice. As he said "We grow. We evolve. We can be more than just one thing."

[@elizabethgregory3352]

@@Embermoon91 it's been proven time and time again that Joker never loved Harley my dear friend, he's tried to kill her dozens of times. He loved the fact that she's easy to manipulate and can act as his human body guard. He just used the word love to resonate with Ivy and have her point out that he was a terrible partner. He even exaggerated the word to have Ivy notice it.

[@little_mushroom]

It has also been proven in the previous season that the Joker did have feelings for Harley (I wouldn't call them love, but he did feel at least something); but he felt conflicted about them, he hated even the idea of feeling that way, so his solution was… attempt to kill her. LMAO just Joker things

[@Embermoon91]

If he's capable of loving Bethany and her kids, he's capable of caring for Harley as a friend.

[@cedar1464]

That clearly wasn't a bowline, and bowlines are incredibly tight knots (sometimes too tight even). Sheet bends work a bit better but aren't that easy to tension. For tying up a person you need the tension more evenly spread along the line, which is more wrapping skill and strength. The tension itself doesnt need to be all that great. If you want a really tight tie, make a small bowline loop in the end of the rope. Wrap the rope around the person/object, then pass the working end through the bowline loop. Double back and wrap in the opposite direction. Doing this uses the bowline loop like a moving pulley, which gives twice the tensioning force per force unit you pull on the line. I don't recommend this for people since it creates a single loop with a lot of tension, not an entire bind. This means you have one loop really digging into the person, which for long term chair tying isn't comfortable or safe.

[@dforman4770]

3:20 I love how Jokers looking at Harls like, “Too late bitch, you ain’t killing nothing” lol

[@kevinneutzling8267]

It would’ve been so easy to mess up this Joker. I love how the writers were smart enough to have a “good” Joker still have the same cunning and drive that made him such a deadly force. He just has a more constructive outlet for that now and is getting to a point I think ironically Batman always wanted joker to be at but believed curing him of his insanity was the only way to achieve.

[@Lazyspaceout]

Hivy doing communications is beautiful

[@red_hornet56]

My man joker is best manipulator 😂

[@dragonlord3376]

To be fair, he is telling the truth, she really is on the fence about killing him

[@adventuresinbasicreality219]

The cardboard box part was cute

[@frogglen6350]

Bruce kinda looks like samurai jack

[@DM-Oz]

This was an interesting scene. I can see how this joker turned Harley into his puppet in the first place

[@VyctoriaBrooks]

I love the similar colors, both wear green, purple, red. Harley has a type.

[@frogglen6350]

This cartoon does a much better job empowering women and men more than she hulk

[@16shogunelitegreen]

You sure about that? You sure this cartoon is showing equal empowerment to the male characters?

[@madslayer4197]

It's almost the same

[@chesspuppeteer]

Happens when you actually put some genuine effort into your writing.

[@tiduswordplayer]

@@16shogunelitegreen to be honest yes, I honestly love this shows usage of character development and how it spreads to everyone without making anyone feel lesser well if you ignore everyone who died in this show

[@madslayer4197]

@@chesspuppeteer but that's not the case unfortunately

[@starlined2351]

Damn, that fade is CLEAN Joker W

[@Theokal3]

I admit, I love the fact that Joker points out people can be more than one thing at the time. Many, he's good in this season.

[@Embermoon91]

Funny how Joker claims not to be a therapist when his complete insight into human behavior and what makes a person tick makes him easily 10x better than one.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

3:18 clearly Harley didn’t see the titanic movie where a giant Octopus with a puppy dog face saves everyone.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

That… is also something I’ve never seen. And I think imagining it just shorted out my brain.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

@@coltonwilliams4153 Ok, good don’t look up that titanic movie… EVER you’ll regret it. Just live in blissful ignorance.

[@benfrank9622]

I have like 3 Identities in me that ships Harley with different people, even though 2 of em likely wont happen. And one of em is Bruce and her.

[@Pinkwolf-bk9nc]

Interesting fact her and Bruce get married in one comic

[@Pinkwolf-bk9nc]

So in a alternative universe they are canon

[@ShatteredSkiez]

White Knight Beyond

[@sierralovat5498]

Well they did get married and have a happy relationship in one comic

[@jessmontgomery3454]

White knight was a cool run. Frankly most versions of Harley crave excitement and justifiable violence, she's traumatised and a little unstable(although she's self aware as a physiologist as we see in this show so that might be conscious coping or a smoke screen for her self denial over not being a bad guy). Her and Mr B are sort of a perfect couple in a wacky comic book way. He needs emotional and physiological support from a smart kind equal who challenges him and she needs excitement and an again equal who doesn't lead her morally a stray. Both are adrenaline junkies who live on the edge and both really care about people and both desperately want a good family, since both were denied that growing up. Now i don't think this show can double back on the Ivy/Harley relationship as we live in politically charged times and they'd likely be burned at the stake. So we'll likely see the redemption of Ivy over the next few seasons to anti hero at the very least which is fine. But i think another long form series could adapt white knight one day and that'd be pretty cool.

[@hamham0317]

Joker: You lost the second you didn't gag me

[@Montesama314]

Joker both shows he knows Harley AND that he pays attention to his stepson. Great writing.

[@shelbypowell9919]

For those of you who don’t know, the writers clearly just googled simple knots and picked three at random. A sheet bend lets you tie two smaller ropes together to get a larger rope. A taut-line hitch is, as, kind of like a noose in the at it makes a loop that you can make bigger or smaller. You can use them for clothes lines. A bowline ties a loop in a rope that won’t get bigger or smaller. It’s used in rescue because it’s not a noose.

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

Thank you for this education on knots.

[@Kagamid]

I'm convinced this entire series is one giant psychotic episode inside her head. Completely entertaining, but so many characters had to completely shift personalities for this to work, it looks like this is how she sees them. This series is comedy gold.

[@vexxama]

That’d be pretty funny and would explain a lot, if the series was through a Harley filter like there’s he hallucinating, what we see and then what’s actually happening

[@theunsmartasian1087]

Poor bane, I love him in this show i wanna hug him

[@Aflay1]

"Does she put one cardboard box in the recycling bin so that nothing can fit," OH MY GOD, WHO DOESNT DO THIS, AND WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO ME?? AAAGHHRRRGHHHHHH

[@fighterck6241]

Another thing about this that I like is how it shows repeating patterns in Harley's behavior even while in a relationship with a partner who isn't willfully trying to take advantage of it.

[@scarsdale7186]

I seen this coming for a long time, Harley's been in major denial over it but once she was reminded why she became a therapist in the first place it wasn't a stretch to go all in. She''l always have the violent streak in her but I'm sure she'll learn to tone it down. Well somewhat anyway lol.

[@rosepuppy1984]

Ok but Ivy’s hair looks PERFECT

[@omarcogle1965]

You know what's also a noticeable thing that Harley does? When she wants to do something as a villain, she yells. Has anyone noticed that small detail?

[@qzbnyv]

I do the “one giant cardboard box” in my building’s communal recycling bin. Nice to have something in common with HQ

[@badluckcloverfilms6234]

Funny that I never heard about the bowline until I do ropes course training for a camp and now it pops up on here

[@hallyuotaku2777]

after all this time, Harley feels like she's more suited to be Batman's partner than Joker

[@angelrosales898]

I had to admit but Harley is starting to become a sister figure to Bruce/Batman let's hope we get to see more of these moments in future seasons.

[@indra_vrtrahan]

Ironic how well written this joker is tbh

[@coltonwilliams4153]

The one thing you should never do is let Joker talk. He always gets in your head, and he always wins.

[@syabilaazri7834]

No kidding. How do you think Harley Quinn came in the first place? Next time, zip up that clown mouth

[@henrywall2338]

You don’t need to be a villain to be an agent of chaos

[@whats_a_good_name]

We’re actually getting more moments of Harley being Bruce’s therapist, didn’t see that coming.

[@smaug6015]

This show is fucking killing it with the character development

[@ZekeTheThunderWolf]

got freaking dang it. The cardboard in the bin bit is too relatable to me.

[@songarakram]

Plot hole: Harley never had a bat when she was with Joker.

[@omarcogle1965]

She did have a mallet.

[@GuardianTiger]

That cardboard box is so relatable XD

[@Rachel.DawnAmber]

Ivy and joker getting along Bruce and Harley getting along Heck yeah.

[@KenanVonKaiser]

Harley is Still Keeping Bruce Secret So Still Good!

[@charlottea.cavatica1696]

Why is Harley still doing this? Why is she denying that there are changes going on with her? First she denied about her and Ivy having sex and now she's denying being a hero?

[@lordcawdorofmordor2549]

Mental health issues

[@addisonpacker4959]

It’s a process and gag

[@Andrea-rc1gz]

She literally said it’s because she doesn’t wanna lose ivy

[@charlottea.cavatica1696]

@@Andrea-rc1gz well, now, they can agree to like different things.

[@AZDfox]

@@charlottea.cavatica1696 yes, that's exactly what happens in the part right after this clip.

[@cunningsmile4166]

0:26 I'd vote for him