False Advertising! - Scale News Update 345

[@eddytoy9496]

New Morgan & Morgan commercial… “Have you or a loved one handled or adjusted a Traxxas slipper clutch or been exposed to a Traxxas slipper clutch?”😂

[@jwessly6333]

😂 LMFAO

[@MayhemMachine420]

As many automotive brake jobs as I've done the last thing I'm worried about is those tiny little Traxxas slipper pads

[@Axial32]

I always end up going RTR so I can use it and enjoy it immediately and then plan ahead on what I'm going to replace. Kind of like a budget build.

[@rc_tom]

Not related to the question, but Killerbodies' decision to plonk a Lancia Delta (4wd) body on a 2wd platform .... Lancia had the Stratos (Killerbodies already have the body/license to that one) or the 037 which are 2wd. I know other manufacturers do that too. I think there are too many accountants and not enough car people in the rc space. I know in the end those are toys. But a 2wd Lancia Delta just rubs me the wrong way. -Rant over-

[@HarleyDesignsInc]

1000% agree with everything here.

[@AsurasWrath164]

You are aware that the Delta was also a 2wd car? Only the Integrale option made it 4wd.

[@rc_tom]

@@AsurasWrath164 yes, but that was fwd. The Killerbodies car is a rwd with the body of the repsol car which was an integrale. Lancia did rally fwd cars but that was before all the above cars. Maybe they also had some fwd deltas in lower classes. But those aren't what Killerbodies shows here.

[@guest6423]

The 1:1 weren't electric, either ;P But yeah, I hear what you're saying, and it's always nice when there's that accuracy. It makes you like the company when there's that attention to detail.

[@AsurasWrath164]

@rc_tom there were a lot of private teams using 2wd deltas in various different rallyes.

[@garyclark24]

The governments two favorite words are “permissible levels” its stunning what other countries consider dangerous and what bribes will do to make things legal in the U.S.

[@TCnML01]

Hearing Tomley try to pronounce the word mesothelioma made this recall worth it.

[@TomleyRC]

I agree.... 😅

[@BrazinScaleRC]

That Rowering kit was definitely “voice to text” because the R and L are on different sides of the keyboard 😂

[@aegixxer1]

Heat resistant crawler?? FINALLY I can scratch "crawling on a live volcano" off the bucket list! Thanks FMS!!

[@hollyhillrc]

Hi. I live in the UK and I heard about the Traxxas recall today on Tomley RC's channel. I bought a used Traxxas Slash 2wd Gunk edition in 2018 on eBay UK and decided to use the link Phil provided for UK Traxxas owners to see if it was one of the models that's on the recall list, which it was. So I filled out their form with the Traxxas model and serial number and emailed it back. I did this because I have C.O.P.D lung disease, and even though the risk may be minimal if I work on that area of the Slash with such a tiny part containing Asbestos, it could still be a danger to my already failing health. I received a reply within the hour from them saying; Quote "Your vehicle(s) ARE affected. Based on the serial number(s) provided we have determined your vehicle(s) will need to be reworked by us (here in Kent). "We are currently processing the recall requests, so once we schedule in your vehicle we will be in touch with specific shipping instructions". It will be very interesting to see how things develop with this recall generally, and with the process of getting my Slash "reworked".

[@wessoloshun30]

Kits are my first choice. all my RTR's became modified shortly after purchasing.

[@mateolopez7024]

I enjoy it all, building kits since the 80's, enjoyed the nitro boom in the 90's, love RTRs and would absolutely buy a good ARTR to add my own electronics.

[@alans4281]

When Asbestos was found in the shipping containers from Traxxas more than 12 months ago by Australian customs the containers were sealed and sent back to Traxxas. This has been one of the reasons there are almost no Traxxas parts or vehicles for sale in Australia. You can say Australia is a small market but I say traxxas has lost a lot of the market share in the last 18 months and is unlikely to get it back because of their slack attitude to safety. It’s shocking how slow this recall is in the rest of the world. Australia has most of the world’s asbestos mines .

[@stevemoore1698]

There sure is alot still in the attics of American homes lol, still lots of asbestos tiles in schools too.

[@AsurasWrath164]

@@stevemoore1698 Really??? The German government made an enormous effort back in the 1980s to get rid of asbestos in all public buildings.

[@brandonbrown3600]

​@stevemoore1698 tiles and siding are a non issue unless you break them up and roll in it. Asbestos is only an issue when friable and disturbed. Its smart to ne weary but its not going to jump up and bite you just because its there.

[@shannoncold]

Kit all the way for me, most of my fun is the build.

[@Xofroggy]

Songgoulin just a way for them to say hey im not replacing your gears it shows you were doing things outside warranty XD

[@kenkuczek610]

Happy new year Harley. Thanks for making my Tuesday mornings.

[@Grunk-ik9os]

Gotta appreciate the sub par health regulations in the US.

[@wouterb9996]

Kit! Any day of the week.

[@flatlander7288]

Scratch built kit all the way! If I have to take it apart to make sure everything is lubricated and torqued correctly anyway. Then I might as well build the whole thing. That way, everything that is over tightened and stripped is my fault.

[@KatastaFreese]

I love a good kit, I wish they came out before the RTR's instead of after. That being said, rather than an ARTR maybe FMS has it right with a pro version RTR. Upgrade all the electronics for the people that want that version.

[@redndeyes]

Rtrs, gotta give into the simps.

[@troysmith4996]

I Agree 100%... Since getting back into the RC World, I find I greatly enjoy the building N customizing! ; )

[@brianellison3525]

You really don't understand marketing.

[@bakerredrum]

There isn't enough kits out there. Don't care for the rtrs

[@waybetteryouaustralia3934]

Damn Good Question Josh man ... Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to You and Nicole from me ( GrooverBen in Oz )... Hope you Legends had an Awesome well deserved break ? To answer the question... Hmmm I am more interested in Building Kits or building custom stuff by combining different products together to achieve the RC Vehicle i want as an end result ...... i do like some RTRs but the Electronics is one of the features that turns me off them ...unless its Spektrum, FlySky or Futaba electronics i know i will be Upgrading it at some point ..... I'm a Freak though ...for me the Build is The Fun :) getting to drive it at the end is a bonus !! Stay Groovey

[@AnySumptionBanter]

Killerbodies... the Lancia was a rear wheel drive that won several rallys when most others were running 4wd. I learned this info on Top Gear!

[@erichawkins6231]

I love building kits most rtrs electronics are sub par but my first vanquish rtr was the optic and I’m highly impressed the stock electronics do fine I haven’t changed anything besides tires and wheels and I switched my body panels to the Supra inspired panels

[@jaceSHO]

Im with you on the RTR market - Even if its a small add on radio or servo thats okay but then even that depends how sweet the ride is.

[@Cdeath1313]

When I was fairly new to the scene RTR. But after being burned by RTR's not using locktite and ungreased gears I prefer kits now. At least with a kit if a screw backs out I can only blame myself. Plus most of the time I replace over half the parts in a RTR, so it ends up being cheaper to do a kit. Additionally with a kit you know all the ins and outs for the model and can diagnose problems quicker.

[@AsurasWrath164]

I live in Germany and have a large Traxxas stable, and i couldn't care less about that little bit asbestos in the slipper pads. I will drive them as always and replace them with the new ones when worn down. Simple as that!

[@1500chessie]

Me too....EU sucks...

[@stevemoore1698]

I live in the U.S, I install fiberglass insulation and crawl through attics everyday lol. I cralw through all kinds of bad stuff. I don't care either.

[@HarleyDesignsInc]

This is how I assume most people will react.

[@1500chessie]

@@HarleyDesignsInc it would be interesting what Traxxas will say. For me, this went too far.

[@sgvpizzainsel7500]

i live in germany too... and i´m glad i sold my all my "fast" traxxas cars years ago. but i changed alot of traxxas slipper in the past, and i wonder if traxxas was the only one who used asbestos.

[@JamesInSpace914]

Thumbs up to Carisma, I hope more manufacturers follow their lead and spare us the excess cheap transmitters!!!

[@CrawlerRuth]

I am pro kit. I just have the hardest time choosing a body for a new build. I think Vaterra Ascender was one of the last ARTR that you had to supply just the battery, receiver, and transmitter. I really liked that setup.

[@mikehogan27]

#1 kit, #2 roller rtr, #3 rtr. I don't like waste. I waited on the H10 until I found a used one nicely set up the way I wanted it. Hobbywing Pro, Reefs servo, aluminum transmission goodies, machined diff gears, and more goodies. Then about three weeks later the kits came out. I'm still money head over building a kit.

[@rcaustralia1101]

A-RTR are good for the larger scale vehicles which compared to the RTR are a few hundred dollars less which represents great value if you have the required items already! And I know because I purchased a HOBAO 8SC A-RTR but it needed electronics, the body painted and wheels glued but it was great value!

[@kylekennedy21]

I just bought the last 10.2 deadbolt my LHS had. I have already changed all the electronics minus radio as I haven’t bought a receiver for my radio yet. I enjoyed driving it for a battery pack in rtr form, but immediately threw parts at it.

[@RaymondLansall]

Happy new year my friend ❤

[@billnewman1970]

I like the builder kits you can do what ever u want to it I got my 9 year old grandson the slash builder kit and now that is all he wants is the builder kit great job on the vids man your the one that got me into crawling with the h10 I couldn't afford but I got me a trx4 once again awesome vids man

[@aegixxer1]

For your question, I just ordered a bunch of Hardpark RC 1/24 stuff so I'd have to say kit building. I've never been a huge RTR or ARTR fan.

[@1LACOSRC]

I prefer kits unless a specific rig I’m interested in is RTR only. For the ARTR, if a higher quality motor or a 2in1 isn’t preinstalled, I personally don’t see the benefit as I would more than likely replace the stock motor anyway. Just my preference. Always appreciate the news 📰 dude! 🤘

[@iluvny0811]

i usually end up getting a kit or rtr. not very many artr's out there. its more expensive to buy a rtr and then upgrade but, one of my favorite things about rc is to buy a rig, then upgrade it and see what each change/upgrade does compared to stock. ive been doing this for a very long time and know how to setup a rig to perform pretty decent but still like the process of seeing each individual change. there is no way this wasnt a pointed question Josh. im looking forward to see what comes in the future from vanquish.

[@GeeShocker]

If there's a kit, i'll go with the kit. If i get a (A)RTR i'm going to rebuild it before use. ReadyToRebuild

[@odomandr]

I like the artr without electronics. I keep a kit on deck to build (usually a Tamiya) but having a quick entry with preferred electronics is a nice option

[@hotboyracing]

I’m more interested in kits. I love knowing all my stuff is greased and bolts properly tightened. I wish the kits would come out first before the rtrs though

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

good video, re the ARTR yes i like the idea its like getting a built kit and using existing radio and speccing a nice esc and servo, i have built the SCa-1e and would not want to build another

[@flintTC]

For the Associated RC10GT, the problem isn’t that the engine is not available, as you can find many options for the .12 and .15 nitro motor. The problem at least for me is that the majority of these engines cost the same or more then the truck kit costs.

[@discoveryrc]

Do appreciate the rtr, but will always pick the kit version

[@TheDeLeonHobbyGarage]

I would rather build the kit or have an ARTR or even bind and drive. I typically do not use the stock radios which requires me to pick up another spectrum receiver to pair with my rugged . I probably have 20 RTR radios sitting around and I never can find the right vehicle they go to so at some point, I will start having to label them.

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

I have enough projects atm so a RTR is more my style and I can enjoy it now and change stuff as it breaks or i get extra funds. If I had the funds it would be a full kit and pick everything I need. I enjoy the modifying a already built rig the most tho.

[@TyJoe_N_MattyMoe]

I don't have the initial budget to build a kit into a drivable rig. I've had a donated parts built Phoenix without electronics for almost 2yrs. In that time, I won an RC4WD Marlin and was given a SSD Trail King; I drive them both weekly, until I burned out the Firma Rx/ESC in the SSD this weekend. Now I need 2 motor/ESCs, 2 steering servos, and a RadioLink RC4GS with 2+ receivers.

[@MX304]

Kits all the way. The RTR electronics are generally better suited for dumpster liner duty. I'm going to replace it all anyway.

[@arthopfer]

I’m a kit guy. Sometimes a basher is nice rtr to pull it out of the box and go.

[@watch-box]

The first thing I usually replace are Wheels/Tyres obv. Secondly are the electronics (including motor). I would love an option of an ARTR with no electronics or motor.

[@jerrywatson1958]

I would buy the ARTR as I have two Flysky NB4 and NB4+ Pro radios. I do have a couple of kits on my list to buy as well.

[@Casitascrawlers]

ATR’s & RTR’s both have there place more options is always good. But there’s nothing like building & painting your own rig.

[@brianellison3525]

I'm old. I started when building your own was the only way you didn't end up with something like a Clod Buster. I WAY prefer a kit. That's does me real well, cuz I really don't want 25 radios, receivers and power trains in my junk drawer. Got into the SCX24's for a while, amazing how quick junk parts accumulate. Be well all.

[@fight4uthisway]

Kits are where it’s at for me!

[@GeezerGramps]

I have a drawer full of RTR radios. I would prefer an ARTR that all I had to do was drop a radio in for times I didn’t want to build something.

[@madmike3476]

I bought a RC10DS when they first re released because I never could get one as a kid and it was a short run car. Now there is so many I want so fast I cant keep up buying the kits I want to collect lol. I think they are doing it for part availability so they can take back some of the after market replica parts that are keeping these old cars going at an affordable cost. It is annoying tho like you said there is no real new option for a .12 other than a company I never heard of or $700 and up race engines. That's probably why I wont get the GT and I really want one again!

[@rcstories_ca]

Kit, RTR, ARTR in that order. I like building and getting it the way I want from the start, but I’m also slow (methodical) so if I just want to drive a truck I’d get the RTR. I’d don’t mind using stock electronics for a time while I get to know a truck. The cost and environmental savings of an ARTR is appealing, but I’d be itching to get the truck rolling as soon as I got it out the box, so might as well be an RTR then.

[@RCTREK]

Wouldn't mind ARTR if they came with clear bodies. I always find myself purchasing a clear body to paint or tweaking the ARTR body by removing stickers or doing something with flat paint on it to make it unique.

[@hondofourfivetwo9347]

I’m old school I always choose a kit over a RTR I only do an ARTR when there’s no kit option as it is when I’m forced into a RTR/ARTR my first step after unboxing is complete disassembly even if the only change I’m making is installing my own receiver or none at all Ive just encountered so much poor quality control things like almost empty oil shocks loose screws or worse over tightened and binding components etc etc

[@ProNoobRC]

Ain’t nobody gonna ship their vehicle back over something so minor.

[@barthockerman7103]

I want to always build Kits! Kits are my favorite, RTR is great for new folks that just want to drive.

[@MrJdspecial1]

The only rtrs I've ever bought is Losi Trail Trekker and scx24. Dude thanks so much for SNU. Take care of yourself

[@MiksRCAddiction]

i would love to have some kind of odometer or something like that for my rc's just to see how far i've driven them. maybe that "game" could have something like that?

[@NissanNut74]

Very interested in that songguolin patrol 1/10 scale. Need more Nissan body choices!

[@postalacidity]

Full kit is most appealing since I've been in the hobby for a few years, but initially RTR was easy to get started.

[@stevekelley677]

Rock Pirates stuff Rocks. !! Top notch parts !!

[@smokin0137]

They need to keep stock in their store. The kraken pro green rails have been out of stock for 6 months.

[@manchildrc]

ARTR would be excellent. I love the idea of saving the money on a radio that I don't want. A lot of rc planes are BNF which is Bind And Fly. So you get everything except the radio and battery (most often it's spektrum based). ARTF is a thing too but not as common these days.

[@Lampshadekid]

I'm usually good with RTR, I prefer driving something immediately and deciding if its worth upgrading, vs building a kit, finishing it and being like "eck. what a waste" kits are fun though.

[@mikeearls8158]

On most of my RTR’s , the electronics were the first thing to go and I wished that the AR2R was an option because it always felt wasteful. Arrma offered this with their EXB line and I thought it was brilliant because you had all of the hop ups factory assembled and ready for the electronics of choice. The exception to this is Hobby Plus/furitek rigs that come equipped pretty decently equipped. P.S. Throttle Therapy livery is already SOLD OUT! That’s the one I really wanted 😢

[@kjflyte5088]

Speaking of kits I just put the throttle therapy kit together, and I don't really care for the colors but the kit was fun to build , and instructions don't show electronics so it makes the kit hard to build at first. I had to watch videos of other builds to get vinyl stickers on correctly as well lol no instructions on how to install vinyl was the worst of the build. 24:25

[@jeffwheeler9016]

Thank you for keeping the SNU alive

[@jwessly6333]

I still like kits more but idk in some instances I wouldn't mind have an ARTR from team associated enduro ifs truck chassis kit for the build right I got

[@davidpigg3942]

I like my kit's, but I wouldn't mind the ARTR. I pull most if not all the electronics out before I run them anyway.

[@rc-daily]

I like the kits best but id really like an artr. The first thing i do before even running a truck is swap electronics.

[@melmyrtle5765]

I have piles of short crank nitro engines . Also I have put one of every TRX engine in gt's over the years including the 3.3 up crank one 🤣

[@DRZ-RC]

I lean more towards full kit, but those are somewhat rare these days. ARTR would be better than RTR because I’m swapping electronics regardless.

[@amason85]

I would much prefer kit over rtr or artr. That being said, if it was a vehicle only offered prebuilt, i would absolutely prefer artr. I’ve got over 100 rc vehicles and I’d say 90% have aftermarket electronics. The stock electronics are either trashed or shoved in a box never to be seen again.

[@slackreviews]

I’m more of a kit guy than rtr. I think rtr’s are appealing in the crawling world because they come with a nice body and accessories such as lights. One thing I would like to see is a kit that contains the body and scale accessories.

[@Ezzie0304]

For Optic panels to be of any use it would be nice if the Optic were to be possible to get ones hands on in the first place.

[@shuster1921]

The Hyrax 1/6 are only 9.91 a pair, now that's Crazy Eddie pricing right there!!😂🤣

[@joshfowler197]

I actually wished there were slider kits. Much like the Redcat Gen8 Pack was. All assembled slider. No wheels, body, or electronics

[@Story_Rice]

Kits for sure!

[@ApexxPredatorr]

If available, I always go with a kit!

[@JESchnake]

I would rather have a kit but a roller could be a option too.

[@Buddy-b2x]

When I started this hobby in the mid 80s they were all kits and I prefer to still build them.

[@forrestcrabbe]

I watch regardless, that show is great 🤘😁🤘

[@brianbeck7468]

I would like to see all the electronics minus the radio and receiver, I never use the RTR radios, I always just add my receiver, bind and go.

[@jameskauffman8405]

Kit are the best, but ARTR and RTR are good too.

[@MrTynado]

Kits are my absolute favorite

[@christophermears7738]

Team associated team losi used to use the short crank shops on their engines for their two wheel drive stadium truck platforms. That's all racing has fallen into the deep dark depths of the abyss nobody really does it anymore and there's no demand for that style engine with that style of Crank. Basically basically if you don't have a stockpile of vintage nitro engines with a cut crank this kits useless to you

[@mattabe86]

I’d prefer the ARTR. I’ve started to accumulate RTR electronics that were quickly replaced and now have little to no purpose. If I had more time for the hobby, I’d take a kit first. But the ARTR seems like a reasonable cromlromise

[@gamingwithdurly]

Kits with assembled shocks all day!

[@jonthomas8487]

I enjoy building and personalizing but an assembled slider without a body is a nice idea

[@angrymelon]

1. Kit 2. ARTR 3. RTR

[@mikecraig5024]

Kits are my first choice

[@Goon_Street]

Being a full-time welder and also thinking about the 100's of brake jobs I've done.... I laugh at the people who think them little slipper pads are gonna make a difference 😂

[@jonthomas8487]

With the NB4+ being $299 hopefully Futaba with the 3PV being $150 will come in under the NB4+. It would be nice to have a Futaba with the simplicity of the 3PV but with a decent color screen and 6 channels

[@AsurasWrath164]

Definetly kit 100%!

[@rc-daily]

The nicest carbon fiber h10 panels/parts will be available soon! Just be patient!

[@jeffmackovitch9987]

Am I the only one that noticed the slide for the Live stream and the H10 optic panels were improperly swapped?

[@redndeyes]

😂 i love how vanquish releases products to totally take advantage of the fan simps. Brilliantly timed.

[@MX304]

Matt needs to make you a WAY2ROW license plate decal for your Sicario build.

[@guest6423]

I thought that I've seen ARTR models, and they're only lacking the battery. I think that a pre-built model with zero electronics has more appeal than one that only includes a motor. What are the chances that motor of going to be just what the buyer wants?