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I'm very late to the party! Many people have already covered this but as an oldschool misogynerd gamer I had to take a look at Insomniac's leaked internal inclusivity studies clip.

[@raccoononymous]

-go to America -consume American media -"WHY ISN'T IT PUERTO RICAN"

[@MaverickHunterXZA]

"It is very important that the media portrays Puerto Rican culture accurately" >Insomniacs Spiderman 2 confusing the Puerto Rican and Cuban flag

[@tearybite]

Them: we don’t want their ethnicity to be their personality!! Also them: his bathroom doesn’t look Puerto Rican enough >:(

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

These are the same people who made Ratchet and Clank. A universe where race DOES make up personality. Lombaxes have a knack for mechanical engineering. Blargs are consoooomers. The Tyranoids were mindless soldiers and octopus monsters. They created a whole galaxy of racial stereotypes.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

And they were good friends

[@problematicspaghettios]

Them: How DARE this review say the words "swagger of a urban bla bla bla" Also them: He doesn't sound like an "urban swagger youth bla bla bla"

[@ytnukesme1600]

I live in the middle east, I can right now point at over a hundred objects in my house that are not native to the culture I'm from. my mom, for an instance, has all kinds of English tea, Turkish and French coffee. if I go to a grocery store I can grab a random item and be 80% sure it's not native to my country. these people are living in a bubble of their own delusion.

[@AgagaSnsns]

​@@ytnukesme1600I'm from Italy and I guarantee that these f****ers could never tell by watching pictures of the rooms of my house.

[@Joutube_is_trash]

If race representation mattered black people wouldn't be religiously devoted to dragonball Z and Naruto. Guess I cant relate to Disney movies because im not a lion cub or magic singing candlestick

[@vinegar4556]

I remember in university, we had to watch a video on black representation in media and it cited American Gangster as a poor portrayal of black people for showing them as criminals... American Gangster, the film based on a real person.

[@AgagaSnsns]

These people simply want characters to be good and bad depending on their skin shade: the darker, the gooder, the whiter the eviler. Which makes watching the stuff they do very boring and predictable. It's not deep at all, it's literally the Family Guy airport skin tone meme.

[@mercaius]

"If they're family, why can't they all be the same shade?" Tell that to the last Fantastic Four movie.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

incest perhaps ?

[@pablobronstein1247]

Harmful didn't watch star wars, Vader is black from head to toe Only when he finally reunites with his son a pasty white man comes out of that shell.

[@thatguyonyoutube989]

Leftist tell the difference between clothes and skin challenge (impossible)

[@doubt2022]

​@@thatguyonyoutube989It's Symbolism You Bigot!

[@coltonwilkie241]

@thatguyonyoutube989 the Vader suit was like the Venom symbiote. It was forcing the kind fatherly white man inside to be evil.

[@jackhazardous4008]

Its like these people only watch hollywood romcoms, and just want to leave their comfort zone without actually doing anything different

[@ScwJGX]

Nice profile pic, stalker child.

[@brokenwrd163]

Tell Me why, Andy Warski... LMFAO! That's a blast from the past.

[@lordodin5755]

I mean i felt something when i heard Dutch in the movie Oppenheimer. I mostly felt confusion because it was fucking incomprehensible but thats still something.

[@ragnnohab]

How did we go from parents being told to limit their kid's TV time in the 90s to efforts being taken to ensure your entire identity is formed by it? Advertisers need to face the wall. Also none of these representation "problems" are a thing if these people went back to whatever country they're LARPing as belonging to.

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

emigration for diversity, I love that idea

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Are you gonna show them the door yourself? Perhaps based Trump can help with another platinum plan

[@youcantbeatk7006]

*Leftists need to face the wall.

[@Serahpin]

The black guy being real about how his people aren't successful nor non-violent is based.

[@matthias6933]

It‘s such a weird cognitive dissonance for me to see Asians specifically pretending they have no representations in media, when the Asian media industry is so goddamn huge and does easily compete in quality in various sectors with Western media (I like a bunch of South Korean film directors myself). The only good faith explanation for this to me is that these people are completely clueless and simply don‘t care about Asian media at all - which would be insanely funny.

[@BlueBD]

Because it's not "western" asian media. They are completely divorced from their Heritage's Culture. Ironically Colonial in their understanding and Actions. They fail to realise that They are Americanized because they refuse to acknowledge that America does have a culture and it's largest Export being it's worldwide reach

[@napoleonfeanor]

They probably don't even watch Asian media. The average nationalist from European descent watches more K and J stuff. The memes about "white nationalists" with "smol Asian gf" are kinda true. I'm a moderate ethno nationalist (I'm from the old world) and no exception lol

[@josephlinden1630]

They don’t care about Asian media because it’s not the country they’re in. They want to change the country they live in to fit their view.

[@CruelestChris]

It's a good thing Japan and China have no videogame industries or that would be a really stupid thing for them to say. Genshin Impact alone has not made enough money to buy an entire carrier battlegroup.

[@ytnukesme1600]

it's a grift. you need those sweet sweet victimhood points.

[@Hank..]

they think they're against stereotypes, but they're such flat, unauthentic people that they themselves ARE stereotypes, and therefore consider stereotypes to be "representation".

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

true lol

[@backlogbuddies]

I love how they didn't include the part where they gave miles the Cuban flag because all of their diversity people didn't know the difference between the PR and Cuban flag when redesigning his room in the second game

[@TekedixXx]

20:03 You have no idea how many Hispanic friends I had growing up who looked nothing like their siblings. Knew a Puerto Rico girl who was almost white, her brother looked like he worked in the sun on his farm in Pakistan. Basically every Hispanic family I knew had shockingly white kids and inexplicably dark kids, and that's just the way it is. What am I even watching? Did these people grow up in the culture they say they grew up in? 80% of my elementary school classmates, and 90% of my professors were Hispanic, my textbooks were in Spanish. Bill Nye was in Spanish. I think I'm going to defer to the literal doctoral graduates from central and south America who were teaching us about Hispanic culture more than an HR pity hire who's whole experience with Hispanic culture consists of corn-based food, Abuela's chancla, and wondering which uncle is going to get too friendly at their quinceañera.

[@117Ender]

hispanic, translates to spanish speaker, spain colonized latin america, so latinos are a mix of european, the indigenous ppl, and black slaves...the entire culture is part european part indigenous....

[@scarletsletter4466]

👏🏼 good comment. Yep I look like this & my brothers could pass for any race tbh

[@ytnukesme1600]

back in middle school in the middle east I knew a kid who looked Asian and his brother was African black. it do be like that in certain cultures.

[@AgagaSnsns]

So the last us TV serial is accurate? I found it strange that Pedro Pascal is 100% white while his brother Tommy looks from South America. I guess I was wrong.

[@ShintoArt]

Miles should have spoken more "urban" in the Insomniac games. As a black guy I think It's very authentic to display a black/latino kid who has a poor grasp of the English language. Do better Insomniac!

[@loserinasuit7880]

Not even one nigga, or brotha was thrown around by Miles.

[@thebruh9547]

I would go further and demand that Miles says it.

[@jeice13]

Saying latinx is a very efficient way to prove you are a white californian

[@cardboard4929]

Latin X sounds like a certain kind of website...

[@ragnnohab]

South American Twitter

[@All4Tanuki]

They cookin' yo ass on Latin X

[@jeice13]

Some sort of hub for latin content. Though it might over represent people who say they are exactly 18

[@scarletsletter4466]

Never call an actual Latino this term 😂

[@mariokarter13]

I'm not sure why I'm surprised about this. "Insomniac" literally means "woke."

[@All4Tanuki]

AAAAHAA

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

you definitely didn't play any of their ps2 era games, they used to be PG to PG13 levels of edgy at times

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@xXx_Regulus_xXxCourtney Gears 😏

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@xXx_Regulus_xXxI can’t even type the lyrics to Courtney Gears music video from R&C 3 because KZbin would censor it. MegaCorp and Gadgetron are real and they’re making me schizo

[@loserinasuit7880]

​@@xXx_Regulus_xXx The joke is that insomniacs are awake. Tard

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

"The fact that Scar was darker than Mufassa" Sure, but Mufassa was voiced by James Earl Jones; and Scar voiced by Jeremy Irons and I think that was more influential than Mufassa having a red mane and Scar having a black mane. (Let's not mention Scar also having Green eyes).

[@thibaldus3]

Good point.

[@innocentsmith6091]

Humans somehow grew up without social media for a million years.

[@meowspark9]

Latino rep peaked at Elvis from Godhand

[@ytnukesme1600]

based God Hand reference.

[@GrosserHund87]

There’s a film that’s just „We are so gay and that’s that” - The Rocky Horror Picture Show

[@eros5420]

Needs have the stereotype of having glasses because being indoors with lack of natural light has been shown to be coorilated with juvenile short sightedness. There was a pretty good study on it.

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

I swear to god these people in the vid haven't watched a single movie made before 2000 if they think there haven't been black main characters. Wtf, Blade??? Beverly Hills Cop?? The Defiant Ones?!? My god, there were "accurately portrayed" black main characters in mainstream films as early as the 1940s. This is insane lol

[@thibaldus3]

BLM/LGBTQIAP activists wouldn't have a job if they recognized we already had "representation" in the 90s and it was made better than what's being done today.

[@fenrir607]

Two things: A) I feel sorry for all those asian people with bad eyesight who have to choose between wearing glasses or being a proper Asian person. If a black person is stuck in a wheelchair does that mean they're not an authentic black person? B) It feels weird to hear them complain that the apartment isn't Puerto Rican enough. I mean its a biracial household growing up in New York, why would it reflect a real 100% Puerto Rican immigrant household?

[@Cats-TM]

Did not realise every child was The Cable Guy.

[@hammondOT]

21:12 He knows there's a slogan he's supposed to repeat here, but he's not smart enough to remember how that slogan goes.

[@ibrokemykeyboard]

People basically treat everything they see on tv or in movies as fact now. And all this “representation is necessary” stuff is incredibly female.

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

truly. this has been figured out as close to empirically as the social sciences can get, even in cultures where gender roles are deemphasized in childhood, girls want their characters to reflect who they are as-is, boys will empathize with boys like themselves, Goku, a sentient truck, or biomechanical masked creatures as long as they do cool aspirational stuff

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

Not even female. as an indigenous latina with very dark brown skin... i hate all this pandering by evil leftists. tbh if i was truly oppressed, i probably wouldn't of became a nurse in the first place... due to "white supremacists" the goal of this shit woke ideology is to get us fighting among ourselves, distracted from the real problems (and ultimately the true intentions of the government... control of the general population)

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Ratchet from the original trilogy would have hated insomniac. They’re the same pandering corporate slop he couldn’t stand.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

I guess that’s why they made that terrible movie and the remake. Where they turn Ratchet into a literal Boy Scout instead of a competent hard working man…

[@maxxam3590]

15:46 It's not "Latin X" nor is it "Latinks". We Hispanics don't use it, and it's definetely a slur.

[@iiisaac1312]

excuse me xir, xey (latinx folx and pexple) literally prefer latinx! xour rejection of gender-inclusive language is just internalized patriarchal white oppressor bigotry!

[@HSnake5]

The first time I ever read "LatinX" I thought it meant something like LATIN-XTREME and I thought that was really fucking cool lol

[@mariokarter13]

I thought it was the "sexy Latina" trope. Like a Latin minx.

[@Ashkihyena]

Remember when Insomniac Games was actually good?

[@Hugsloth]

Yeah, I can actually hold it in my hand, R&C: Crack in Time. One of the best games ever made.

[@maymayman0]

I think sunset overdrive was their last gasp at being original and creative. Sadly however that game only profitted $500 lol

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

no i do not what game was ?

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

My PS2 slim from like 20 years ago still runs great and I can still play the original ratchet and clank trilogy plus deadlocked. Same with the Jak and Daxter trilogy. I will never give them money for anything else.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Naughty Dog and Insomniac are my childhood. These are my favorite gaming franchises. I would be a die hard fan if not for them tanking their companies.

[@really-._.-]

Completely bugman way of thinking. The tradition was passed down through the family and smaller communities. It wasn't through TV. What they are justifying is to do the opposite. Separate traditions and family. And unite TV/Media and atomized children.

[@Ralphopotamus]

I guess im not a true american since i dont salute the flag by my bed first thing in the morning.

[@dizzydial8081]

A true American has a flag in every room, sings the national anthem when they enter the room, and do a 21 gun salute before bed for all the American fallen soldiers that have defended and spread democracy. God bless America.

[@qc6057]

As a black man, we don’t give a shit as long as the shit we’re watching, playing, or reading is fire.

[@TheLastSoundNL]

You cannot convince me this garbage is not completely astroturfed nonsense by political activists or gaslighting people into it. I never heard anyone complain like this before 2013. It's complete insanity. I think I saw it quoted once about a conversation 2008 in marketing, but that itself was after 2020.

[@AgagaSnsns]

It's all part of the MIMAC: the military industrial media academic complex. Yes, it is propaganda, and it permeates all facets of western like now.

[@cyphaborg6598]

You wouldn't understand how a black person felt, but you would playing a video-game. They're mixing fiction with reality while saying you wouldn't understand it IRL. Just give me over-the-top gaming because this is srsly nuts.

[@silenceyouidiot]

This is funnier when you consider Tim covered a video by "A Foreign Man in a Strange Land" where FD Signifier and another lady called what this is as "ghetto simulating." But I'm guessing they would defend this Insomniac video.

[@thibaldus3]

Nerds spend a lot of time in front of screens and suffer from a lack of natural light so they need glasses more often and earlier.

[@SomeQuackingDuck]

Say Latinx again and I'll show you why our crime statistics are so high.

[@scarletsletter4466]

Exactly 😂 it’s not even a Spanish word. If you call us that in parts of Miami & NY nobody even knows what it is. Sounds like a lizard lol

[@couldyou4745]

For years these types of people have been complaining about black characters being portrayed stereotypically, but now theyre complaining that one character in a video game is an individual and not a stereotype. Do preppy black kids not deserve the same type of representation as non preppy black people?

[@Overseer-yx9tk]

2:20 Something something "Man shouldn’t be able to see his own face - there’s nothing more sinister. Nature gave him the gift of not being able to see it, and of not being able to stare into his own eyes." something something

[@Therealsds1000]

authentic = only speak engish to your Latina mother.

[@matthias6933]

lmao

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Many Germans, French and Italians did this, yes. It’s called “integration”

[@Therealsds1000]

@@MennydorgesERArchive Both me and my mother can speak and understand English. But why would we speak Engish if no other Anglophone is in the room with us?

[@terribleivan1475]

Wild how the same video demands pandering and not pandering at the same time

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

What’s interesting about this video is that they forget gaming is a worldwide thing. Same thing happens in the movie. Of course they would take into the account the american market where a huge part of the money is but they forget the whole world consumes their stories. So it’s not a matter of just putting the american POV onto things and that’s ok, because not everyone in the world either wants to see that or identifies with that. And it’s crazy being from outside of the first world because you ended up watching growing up shows from everywhere, and not a single moment passed through my head where I thought whoa I wish that character was from here.

[@The13thRonin]

Guide for how to 202X: -Play vacuous upbeat elevator music. -Show images of only minorities. -Rant about how representation "matters" while suggesting that representation is exclusively based on what shade of skin color you have.

[@dizzydial8081]

Vocal fry and the question speech is so annoying and all over this video. I can barely watch. I hate california.

[@Katie-hb8iq]

16:00 - What I find extremely interesting is that these DEI people want to educate us on how to treat cultures, races, sexualities, genders etc. with authenticity and respect, and yet they use terms like "LatinX" that are generally considered disrespectful and inauthentic to actual Latin Americans since the entire word is used to include non-binary Latin American people. I'm sorry, but such a niche community is not an authority on terms and has no right to impose their definitions on a wider community, especially when we know that the Latin American community actually hates terms like this.

[@masscreationbroadcasts]

36:55 Here's a heuristic: nerds are autists, geeks are bugmen. Nerds like super sophisticated science and ideas, geeks are product and fiction fans.

[@Serahpin]

12:00 "Are there movies where the story is this person is gay and does gay things?" The Crying Game (1992)

[@averagenpc1959]

the pattern seems to be a sliding scale from Asian to Dark-Skinned. The more Asian a character is, the more it is offensive to stereotype because Asian stereotypes aren't cool. Asian characters need to blend into the common culture as much as possible. Then, the more Dark-Skinned you are, the more you should stereotype because Dark-Skinned people need to be explicitly distinct from the regular American culture. In short: Asians should signify how not foreign they are, whereas Black and Brown people need to show how not American they are.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

pretty much. i'm 100% indigenous mexican, and i have very dark brown skin. the irony is, i'm more american than these woke leftists are. i support freedom of speech and gun rights, i'm pro-life, and i hate woke ideology. the only thing they will accomplish is getting me to boycott their trash

[@lolmenx4]

why does media have to be realistic? Its entertainment after all, we CONSOOOOME it to scape the horrible reality our goverments have worked to create.

[@dragonturtle2703]

“Yes, because adults aren’t supposed to care about dumb superhero stuff. Real adults watch sports, get drunk at bars/hook up at clubs, and watch sitcoms/rom coms. If you deviate then you are a child.”

[@scarletsletter4466]

😂 Stop calling us “Latinx” because that’s not even a Spanish word. It sounds like a lizard & we don’t call ourselves that

[@Cats-TM]

24:29 Even then, with like Paths of Glory: all the characters were French but spoke English (because it was an English production) and that does not make the film worse. It is essentially like Star Trek's universal translator, it just is. You do not need to explain it, everyone just speaks English.

[@BoyGeorgiaX]

19:58 scar is an old gay white guy

[@backlogbuddies]

I'm an American expat in China and everyone flips their shit that i don't drink coffee.

[@rutgaurxi7314]

Have a film game/ film or whatever that allows for all their wishes, have a character which we follow all the way through right up to the reveal that he or possibly she is villain all along. Then watch these guys and gals meltdown spectacularly, it would be kino, I tell you, kino.

[@gigakuma]

People are plenty exposed to how they live via flash mob style shoplifting sprees.😂

[@AsukaLangleyS02]

TBF the one Puerto Rican family I knew had three Puerto RIcan flags in their tiny apartment

[@woozleification]

I think they might have a point about peurto ricans and having flags because I have never once seen a peurto rican driving a car that did not have a peurto rican flag on it

[@TeethSkylark]

Miles Morales is more latino than specifically black

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

most black character alway's "replace" the super hero in the "Future" setting cyber punk era stuff

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

You would know by his soundtrack. If the character is black for Americans the soundtrack must always be hiphop

[@eros5420]

I had a black friend tell me about a bloke who learned everything about black people from Fresh Prince and my friend told me the conversation with this third party was the cringiest shit he had ever witnessed.

[@Insomnolant1335]

I hate to break it to you, but your black friend was lying to you.

[@PaulieMcCoy]

@3:58 "sharing is good~~~"

[@Cats-TM]

16:43 Ahh, yes, great movie to choose. The one that features characters in brown face. I personally do not care. But, I know many people get unnecesarily upset at people wearing black or brown face in cinema.

[@Cats-TM]

20:00 Mate, my brothers are a lot darker than I.

[@regularperson9801]

i don't need to watch a show to understand what they are like...

[@theblingcycle]

"please make the black characters more stereotypical thank you"

[@able3331]

I thought Scar's mane was dark because he was older and that's how it works in nature??

[@LoperoperMandalei]

i cringe when my coubtry get represented in a videogame, but its hype as fucke when theyre in a Sports

[@napoleonfeanor]

Media showed me a lot about Korean and Japanese culture. I'm talking about media from those two countries of course.

[@VanessaFlyhight]

My latam wife says Puerto Ricans don't have human rights

[@ellie1903]

I’m painting a mini figure and the George Floyd on the wall comment nearly messed me up 😭😭😭

[@chilibeer3912]

Puerto Ricans do put their flag on everything.

[@oRnch199]

Lil' LatinX droppin' a new fire album.

[@lolmenx4]

Shouldnt the correct take on this be "you do you, but don't involve yourself in my media" like you can make all the new concepts and media icons that you want but don't touch pre stablished ones. I think that's the best way to go about it. I doubt we would reach a point where we are all woke and diverse no?

[@leylapats]

I THOUGHT IT WAS LA-TIX TOO!!!!

[@AstralDB]

when she said "queer people can be the hero" she showed a clip of a women who murdered a child

[@derpionderpson1424]

This shit is just "we are incredibly racist and now we are mad you did not make your game in accordance with our racist stereotypes!"

[@timinou9915]

Well, thats gonna be a fun ride 😹 lets hope I retain some sanity. See you on the other side , floating wisdom Skull.

[@darfjono]

"gosh, why are our games so shit?"

[@dinobanan3211]

I see geeks as the bad ones. They seem like hippies and are just to close to hipsters and weebs.

[@dragonturtle2703]

“Because of their demented consumption of social media.” Are you saying that social media is demented, that it is at a certain critical mass, that a certain type is and will change your accent somehow, or was that some supposed to be some synonym for large size/amount?

[@Cats-TM]

WAIT! Not including a character's race/culture as an integral part of the story means things like Seven Samurai, Harakiri or Anthropoid could not exist. All films very heavily dependant on their cultures. (Intentionally chose films not focused on America because people like that do not understand that America has a culture.)

[@KekgustoPepechet]

I hate this timeline.

[@Cats-TM]

8:15 Yes, this music is definetly Not hinting at anything to do with race.

[@alexjones4679]

42:10 forty minutes in and Tim only now realises that this entire thing is just a display of american cultural ignorance. No, having your own country's flag everywhere is not normal. Usually only extremely proud nationalists do that in other countries, but its all over the US.

[@rin-joh8644]

Jeremy Irons is black?

[@Cats-TM]

26:53 Have you _SEEN_ Karate Kid‽

[@Kirbywingman1]

Why do Mexicans love Dragon Ball Z?

[@c.dgooec2230]

dragon ball z, sailor mon, captain tsubasa and others were all broadcasted on channel 5 (public free-to-air). I dont watch tv but im pretty sure its still on.

[@Cats-TM]

24:00 A true Aryan.

[@MrArbaras]

I'm sorry, wasn't this supposed to be about a video game? I have not heard a single sentence about what you DO in this game

[@verloren844]

17:25 - talking about Slavic people, perhaps?

[@omgtrey]

7:44 why would that be their goal?

[@Cats-TM]

13:20 Dein Kampf?

[@Dunebat]

LatinX = Mexican Wolverine. I'll see myself out. (In all fairness, I would watch the $#!& out of a Mexican Wolverine film.)

[@amee3420]

The dont emasculate Asian men...like wtf and who just watches mainstream? When growing up i watched either dubbed or subbed: Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao Bruce Lee Jet Li Tony Jaa* * As i believe before he was a monk, and the elephant film cos that's the best, with the continuous film running up the stairs

[@Brain-washed2]

41:36 I know a guy..

[@josephlinden1630]

How about they identify as making good games?