HARMONIC ATHEIST - David LeBlanc - Walking away from the deeply flawed claims of Christianity

[@annemurphy8074]

At the 44:43 mark where he speaks about searching out what's true and how most people just want affirmation that they are okay and it will be okay. My life coach says it this way "Most people don't want to be responsible. They want to hand it all over to someone else and hope it all works out". It's kind of wanting to stay a child and have parents that look after everything instead of really and truly growing up into a real mature adult that has a good enough life map to navigate the ongoing challenges of life. Where you know who you are and accept it and trust yourself enough and have enough self kindness, respect, compassion, that you're not totally driven by external validation. I wonder how much of that comes from so many of us having poor attachment where many needs were not met and we were never seen for who we really are by attuned caregivers so we keep on looking for it. It keeps a person stuck developmentally. It sure was the case for me and it's been really hard and sometimes downright terrifying doing the inner work to heal childhood wounds.

[@carmelitafallandupilascani4821]

Finding Chryse the island of gold according to Greek, and the Argyre the land of Silver located in the Oriens according to Turin Map. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekZqaNfsmLf5Y Why is this important? Because the location of the Chryse is were the land of Ophir the land of gold was located. Which will prove the bible is a history book

[@annemurphy8074]

@@davidleblanc1811 You're welcome.

[@cherylruhr6001]

speaking of off limit questions reminded me of the time when I was 13 and a confirmand asking a pastor I looked up to about why women cant have leadership roles in the church. He was so kind and patient with my questions and assured me that the church isnt perfect, etc. fast forward 25 years and Im the confirmation camp cook listening to 8th grade girls ask the same questions. I am in the throes of deconstruction but havent come to terms with it. This time and place and (different) pastor gave those young girls a really flip and disrespectful answer, and I realized I was over it and felt religious delusion circling the drain!

[@Ujasoncook9267]

I've definitely started the process. Went to my last mass in 2020, and I guess I had an emotional attachment but couldn't ignore the lunacy any longer. I don't think I will end up atheist, maybe just a deist of some sort, but not with the mythological being from the bible.

[@Mady8015]

Min 41 to min 46 on group dynamics. Spot on. Very well explained.

[@semidemiurge]

I am slowly working my way through your catalog of interviews and must thank you for the insights I have gleaned into the psychology of the religious believer. This was an excellent exchange. thank you

[@christahewitt2758]

This one was very interesting. I like what he said about a social construct, not asking too many questions and group think. He’s really onto something with that. When he says most people don’t want the truth, they want to be validated.. wow this one really hits home. I also like what he said about the psychological orgas***m that Christians are always chasing. He gave me a new way of framing the “conversion” or “born again” so called spiritual experience. His story is fascinating.

[@billguthrie2218]

I had the same ambition....wanting to be a Bible translator. In 1981 at 22 years old, I went to Bible college to study. First semester theology / bibliology class started opening my eyes to problems and questions. Long story short...7 years and 2 different Bible colleges later, after graduating from John MacArthurs The Masters University, I was totally disillusion. Looked into seminaries,... sat out and studied more on my own. Four years later and I realized it was all myth and fiction.. That was 1992.

[@ZanePatricia]

how is it myth and fiction? have you ever experienced the holy spirit?

[@billguthrie2218]

@@ZanePatricia When you study the history of the composition and collection of the Biblical canon and realize it is mostly plagiarized from other cultures, it becomes pretty evident it is mostly fiction and myth.m Of course I experienced "the holy spirit"... or so that is what I and other believers label it. I now know it is easily explained psychologically and believers of all faith have similar experiences that they label as spiritual experiences / interactions with the divine.

[@ZanePatricia]

@@billguthrie2218 how can i study the way you did? i mean are there any books/online sources you recommend? And what do you believe happens after you die?

[@billguthrie2218]

@@ZanePatricia I learned Greek and Hebrew. That was an eye opener. I dug deep into studying prophecy and its claims and found them to be frauds. All the claims the Jesus fulfilled prophecy turn out to be distorted and pulled out of context. Also studied the Greek and Hebrew words related to soul, spirit, grave, hell, etc. Extremelly ambiguous terms that have been distorted to create the dogmas of hell and afterlife. I don't know what happens when we die. Probably nothing. Resources.. You may find videos on hell by Edward Fudge enlightening. .Harmonic Atheist is good. Genetically Modified Atheist, Holy Koolaid, The Atheist Experience. David Fitzgerald, Robert Price, Richard Carrier, The Thinking Atheist. John Loftus, David Madison... Recovery From Religion, The Clergy Project, The are lots of ex-Christians sharing information.

[@ZanePatricia]

ok. What do you say about Jesus?

[@spaceghost8995]

I was raised Catholic. It was just like he described. I was always horrified by the crucifix and the stations of the cross. The whole communion thing was always very weird and nonsensical to me.

[@kd1s]

In my case I was educated in Catholic schools. Didn't go to church all that much. But it was my Catholic high school that cemented my atheism. Because not only did we study the Greek tragedies, but also studied the Bible one year. And by study I'm talking the King James version and cover to cover read and discuss. That pretty much did it for me. And I had to be bribed into making my confirmation. That's the one where in the final interview I told the priest i had a tough time with the concept of faith.

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

Applause, David LeBlanc. Your point about Moses being made like a “god to Pharoah,” but not being called a “god” is excellent. Jesus may well have been in the same style of situation, but things escalated. I love the point your make.

[@littleswol1]

At the 1:13:00 mark and we have talked about this before Dave. My opinion is that the gospels are all about the hero. The greatest hero story in the western world and what a story 😮 ...spot on man!

[@niniv254ever]

Amazing interview. In the end It’s all based on an emotional passion play played out in the early first century when there was no cannon. What an insightful explanation in few words. Brilliant mind.

[@bellezavudd]

This man does a great job of making some important points.

[@nicoleurbach2861]

Fantastic! Can't wait for follow up!

[@littleswol1]

At the 44-45 minute mark and that’s the truth! Brilliant brah 👊🏼

[@SineCatenis]

This is an incredibly insightful and candid interview - thank you both!

[@trilithon108]

Very energized and insightful interview. . Give us more where he can expand into those areas he had to gloss over. Interviewer interjections great too.

[@crystakovala2694]

Phenomenal interview.

[@sulas548]

David is clearly and intelligent and inquisitive gentleman and yet it still took him many years of intense study and questioning to extricate himself from this nonsense so I wonder what hope there is for the Christians out there that don't have such intellectual curiosity and have also had all of their critical thinking skills expunged from their brains by this horrid religion. The other comments by people that have left is some sign of hope though.

[@MadebyJimbob]

It’s ironic that you are criticizing people for not having critical skills when your entire comment is an argument from personal incredulity, and it’s peppered with ungrounded moral claims and unjustified teleos.

[@sulas548]

@@MadebyJimbob So let us break down your reply shall we. 1. I am not criticizing anyone I am stating an empirical fact, some humans have better critical thinking skills that others, if you state that I cant run as fast as Hussain Bolt then why would that be an insult when it is clearly true. There is nothing ironic in that. 2. Exactly how did you extract personal incredulity from what I wrote? Please explain. 3. What moral claims am I making? Please explain. 4. Exactly what teleos are you referring to and why do you assert that they are unfounded?

[@nashidm6086]

It's a psychological need with confirmation/condemnation on every corner. Especially, if you live in the South.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

I'm like this too David, and I ask this at times about Jesus. If he died _for_ our sins? Then why the hell are sins still within the world to this day even? It's a nonsensical claim altogether.

[@bellezavudd]

ENTER emotionally, To EXIT after using your intellect. At which point you learn the LIES.

[@logangovender9890]

I loved this interview. I could relate. Not all your interviews are like this one. I guess it has everything to do with whom you are interviewing, but this one was Brilliant.

[@joedavenport6156]

I was culturally Protestant until I realized they were as crazy as Catholics. So I have altogether quit the concept of Christianity.

[@ShabbosQueen613]

Is there a way to be in touch with David? My husband and I have had a very similar journey.

[@HarmonicAtheist]

I'll reach out to him to have him add a comment here w/ more info. Thanks! --Tim

[@ShabbosQueen613]

@@davidleblanc1811 thanks so much for responding here. I'll send you an email shortly. Thank you for sharing your story, I can very much relate!

[@satie321]

Another excellent interview, thanks!

[@kxjx]

A heroic dose 🤣 Really took one for the team there pal!

[@blaster-zy7xx]

I up voted just because the title is so correct and direct.

[@groovivi]

Look forward to another episode with David

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Yes! We hopefully will do one again soon. David has lots of great insights.

[@groovivi]

@@HarmonicAtheist Indeed. Keep up the good work Tim !

[@SHurd-rc2go]

With improved sound, please.

[@LeMotMista]

The subject matter of this video is HIGHLY interesting to me, and I'd dearly love to view it. Sadly, its audio quality is appalling. Less than a minute along I've had to give up on. This one passes me by.

[@Crochetedpossum]

Great talk!

[@HarmonicAtheist]

Thank you!

[@spaceghost8995]

Okay kids, THIS is a good reason to NOT trip on acid. It might turn you into a religious basket case.

[@kxjx]

It is a risk for sure! But consider the up side too 🤣

[@karenloveland1428]

11:13 Protestants make fun of the Catholics, but they pretty much are Cathartics too. Even if they don’t want to believe it.

[@ChrisSmith-eo1xu]

Hi Dave, remember the one Friday morning Men's meeting I led at Horizon where we discussed Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. Then I added Mark 10:27 "But Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.” You were upset that I applied the verse from Mark to the Hebrews verse saying essentially "you can't take that from another context and apply it here!". I hope you're wrong about that too. I believe your overall dissatifaction with all things Christian is because you never truly knew Jesus 😢

[@carlmorrison9789]

David Leblanc is a very interesting speaker.

[@dune2024]

truth is jesus never claimed divinity instead he claimed that he was THE SERPENT WHO INTENTIONALLY MISLED ADAM INTO HADES 😎🙏

[@KM-vf4oi]

I know it’s been a year since you left this comment but can you explain how you got that Jesus admitted to being the serpent that lead Adam down the wrong path? I’ve read the Bible many times and I’ve never gotten that from it. I do agree that Jesus never claimed divinity.

[@ssomnaed2720]

Can’t listen to the poor quality audio…

[@tyamada21]

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[@Reese268]

Rabbinic Judaism was not the predominant form of Judaism until the 6th century. To say that it has a better claim on how to interpret the OT scriptures than Christianity does is simply false. 2nd Temple Judaism was different than both Christianity and Rabinnic Judaism, and is the origin of both. Jews in the 2nd temple period had a concept of hypostasis and recognized two of them. Rabbinic Jews would call that concept heretical, but, again, they were not the dominant form of Judaism until centuries later.

[@Reese268]

@@seriouslyiknowhowtoread I have not.

[@carmelitafallandupilascani4821]

Finding Chryse the island of gold according to Greek, and the Argyre the land of Silver located in the Oriens according to Turin Map. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekZqaNfsmLf5Y Why is this important? Because the location of the Chryse is were the land of Ophir the land of gold was located. Which will prove the bible is a history book

[@carmelitafallandupilascani4821]

@@davidleblanc1811 Finding Chryse the island of gold according to Greek, and the Argyre the land of Silver located in the Oriens according to Turin Map. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekZqaNfsmLf5Y Why is this important? Because the location of the Chryse is were the land of Ophir the land of gold was located. Which will prove the bible is a history book

[@carmelitafallandupilascani4821]

@@davidleblanc1811 ctto: The God Culture So where is Chryse? Southeast of China according to the original narratives. That is what they actually say if one reads it and we cover it in this video. Is it the same as Ophir? Yes, not only according to Josephus and others but in logic as the Greeks absorbed the Phoenician (Solomon's Navy in Part) marine acumen including routes. Even the Turin map connects Chryse to the Garden of Eden just as our research especially the Biblical Hebrew references to the Temple gold, Moses' description of the land of Havilah, exact directions from the Book of Jubilees and Enoch, science, and mega-linguistics among other things lead to the same conclusion. Chryse is Ophir and they were rediscovered in the era of exploration by Magellan. This was known. In all fairness, in all our videos, we have only spent a few slides that we have repeated at times on Chryse and that's it so this is an opportunity to provide more context. We find more sources from the time of the Periplus with exact directions and in reading the Periplus which we represent editorially exactly as it reads if one actually reads it, these sources pinpoint the general location of Chryse in the region of the Philippines and certainly not Malaysia which is a ludicrous supposed match to what these cartographers drew and described. They had not been to the area and that is evident from their maps which omit the Malay Peninsula completely as well as IndoChina. That was not rare and Magellan is the one who figured this all out especially when he equated the Lequois whom Pigafetta specifically identifies as those of Luzon Island, Philippines as "Tarsis" and "Ofir" or the Biblical Tarshish and Ophir which was his main objective as it was that of Columbus who did not find it. We cover those in detail. In fact, we offer 3 maps of ancient origin now reconstructed yet fully vetted as credible and accurate which all identify the Philippines essentially as Chryse in relation to China as it is South and East and beyond China as China is the marker for reading these maps not India especially since that portion is missing much. An author drawing conclusions especially one such as Suarez who misrepresents the Periplus omitting the actual directions to the South and East of China are inaccurate in their conclusions. We are not. Whether we sourced slides 3 years ago with precision is impertinent as we have been updating those today including a 4 page Bibliography for Part 6 of the Original Solomon's Gold Series. How many other KZbin Channels provide such? Very few. The sources are accurate and used properly. That said, history is but one leg of our case which travels multiple disciplines which all align to prove the Philippines is Ophir and no one has disproven our conclusions. Yah Bless from The God Culture Finding Chryse the island of gold according to the Greeks kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekZqaNfsmLf5Y Where is the Garden of Eden according to Jubilees kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpmznmqEbtOYbrM

[@JeremyKu]

It has that claim primarily because their interpretation was from the language the Old Testament was written in whereas Christians tried to do so via various (and sometimes multiple) translations and resultant (and sometimes deliberate) distortions. The evolvement of what you term "rabbinic Judaism" - that evolved in response to, and as a means of spiritual and religious survival following, the destruction of the Temple and the Jewish exile from its homeland, is irrelevant to the comparison with Christian interpretation and distortion mentioned above.

[@joehinojosa24]

This Guy hyperanalyzes too much. If you buy him an ice cream cone, he wants to know WHERE the atoms in it came from after the Big Bang. Just EAT THE ICE CREAM BROTHER!

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

So are you saying that if some one offers you Koolade, just DRINK 🥤 the damned thing ⁉️⁉️ It’s folks like YOU, GULLIBLE, that follows people like Jim Jones, beware ⚠️⚠️ you don’t end up in Guyana 🇬🇾 DEAD 💀 ☠️

[@joehinojosa24]

@@shirleyannelindberg1692 No I'm More like " Jack Dawson"( Titanic) " IM A SURVIVOR ROSE".

[@tomgrosemusic]

Somebody cares what he thinks, I'm sure

[@jackskelington7377]

Your comment is very Christian. Someone might care what he has to say, it will cause people to think and question, unlike your dumb ass comment.

[@lancewilber1119]

Deeply flawed , so you have life & death all figured out , ill listen to my conscience & especially Gods Holy Spirit who called me back , thank you Jesus.

[@renny3816]

After all the evidence against it?

[@renny3816]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnengnZ6e6trgac

[@steve582]

"Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures, He was buried and rose again, according to the Scriptures." (I Cor. 15) These are the facts of the gospel. All that God has to offer man for eternity streams from this truth. For man to finally reject, neglect, or 'walk away' from it is apostasy: a final seal on the everlasting doom of such. Instead, be sure of your salvation by accepting God's offer of salvation through faith in His Son. A sheep of Christ's can never perish (John 10) as surely as the apostate can never be saved.

[@joelmouton9365]

Preaching on a deconversion video. 😆 you do realize that many former Christians have read and studied the Bible right? So quoting the Bible to prove the Bible would be like a Muslim quoting the Qur'an. Do you not see the idiocy in that?

[@mrmaat]

Non-Christians don’t believe your collection of ancient stories, poetry and propaganda is authoritative or different from other similar ancient texts. Preaching to apostates is particularly tone-deaf. Most of us were dedicated Christians for some time and know the Bible and theology better than the average pew warmer.

[@margaretbarrett6087]

The “facts of the gospel” are that they are writings that were edited in the 17th century from 16th century translations of eight thousand contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the first century by people who were likely illiterate.

[@samsungkartit]

Human sacrifices are pagan

[@renny3816]

No proof, so I won’t waste any more of my life on this mess.

[@elinelcrat8272]

Your claims are deeply flawed. You did not grow up as a Catholic. You grew up a Conciliarist. You are very confused and misinformed. But, you ARE very much following crowd - it is fashionable to bash Christianity, even if it is a false Christianity. I'm sure you have a lot of company.

[@carmelitafallandupilascani4821]

Finding Chryse the island of gold according to Greek, and the Argyre the land of Silver located in the Oriens according to Turin Map. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJekZqaNfsmLf5Y Why is this important? Because the location of the Chryse is were the land of Ophir the land of gold was located. Which will prove the bible is a history book

[@LM-jz9vh]

The Abrahamic religions are all nonsense. Sorry.

[@LM-jz9vh]

@@carmelitafallandupilascani4821 The god of the bible isn't real. The Israelite religion evolved out of the Canaanite religion. *YHWH/Yahweh was some minor deity from the southern Levant who over time took on the imagery and attributes of the older mythical Canaanite deities El and Baal.* He only became the one "true" god when some Yahweh only Israelites (Yahwists) pushed that agenda. Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society *www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/jews-and-arabs-descended-from-canaanites/* Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia *www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Canaanite_Religion#Relationship_to_biblical_religion* Dr Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University outlines this in lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards. *kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC4nqh7d9KGa80* In lecture 8, from 12:00 to 19:00 minutes, Dr Hayes more thoroughly outlines the Baal and Yahweh connection. *kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYSUaJeCqrmDmpI* Also, inscriptions were found in the form of blessings, referencing *"Yahweh and his Asherah."* Asherah was originally the wife of the Canaanite deity El, so the merging of Yahweh with El is obvious. *www.seeker.com/amphtml/gods-wife-edited-out-of-the-bible-almost-1766083399.html* You can also watch Pagan Origins of Judaism that outlines this as well. Also, refer to the descriptions in the video that state the *proper critical scholarship* the video is based on. *kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHamlq2DjtqabsU* Also watch Atheism: A History of God (A) by a former Christian. *kzbin.info/www/bejne/g53Rn4qYoLKfmMk*

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@@carmelitafallandupilascani4821 The general consensus of critical scholarship is that Jesus was a failed end times/apocalyptic preacher that had stories made up about him after he died by gospel writers who weren't eyewitnesses. *"I agree with mainstream scholarship on the historical Jesus (e.g., E.P. Sanders, Geza Vermes, Bart Ehrman, Dale Allison, Paula Fredriksen, et al.) that Jesus was a FAILED apocalyptic prophet. Such a hypothesis, if true, would be a simple one that would make sense of a wide range of data, including the following twenty-one (or so):"* ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted) exapologist.blogspot.com/2007/10/one-of-main-reasons-why-i-think.html?m=1 historyforatheists.com/2018/12/jesus-apocalyptic-prophet/ Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism www.google.com/amp/s/lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/majority-of-scholars-agree-the-gospels-were-not-written-by-eyewitnesses/amp/ End Times - Evil Bible .com www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/end-times/ The Historical Jesus (As Opposed to the Fictional Gospel Jesus) - Yale University kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpDHgJudYqujq5I

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@@seriouslyiknowhowtoread Jesus IS the way the truth and the life;no one comes to the father but through him. John 14:6