Really enjoyed this video. Still finding my way in this. Thank you both.
@user-wb2yv7ll9d7 ай бұрын
I really liked this interview. Joel is so clear and rational and he has so many solid book recommendations. ❤️
@unicyclist973 ай бұрын
Aww, thank you 🙂
@theemptycross12343 жыл бұрын
fantastic interview, thanks!
@billkeon8803 жыл бұрын
About ten to fifteen years ago you might see a posting of one or two people a year actually coming out publicly as atheists. Now it seems like one or two per week, or more. 100 times the deconversion rate. Fantastic
@unicyclist973 жыл бұрын
Progress!
@marilynlingenfelter93194 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a list of books mentioned during an interview.
@HarmonicAtheist4 жыл бұрын
I will get that together and post asap. Good thought. Thanks for the feedback!
www.amazon.com/Mythos-Christos-Edwin-Herbert/dp/1483583031 readthespirit.com/explore/interview-john-dominic-crossan-on-power-of-parable/ Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, Philip Yancey, Adrian Plass, CS Lewis. The Selfish Gene is a 1976 book on evolution by the biologist Richard Dawkins. The God Delusion Richard Dawkins. www.amazon.com/Sense-Goodness-Without-God-Metaphysical/dp/1420802933 (Richard Carrier) www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966 (Christopher Hitchins) www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1913765 (Julia Sweeney Letting go of God.) Aron Ra (formerly L. Aron Nelson is an American author... Stephen Hawkins Origins of the Universe. The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture ...hp-hc.ca › book-reviews › god-virus-how-religion-infe... Dr Darrel Ray, Sam Harris. (It's the Muslims that are the biggest 'casualties' (my words) of Islam. www.amazon.com/Manual-Creating-Atheists-Peter-Boghossian/dp/1939578094 The foundational work for Street Epistemology. This book lays out the rationale and method for having more effective conversations with people who follow ... Dr. Carrier's book Sense and Goodness without God defends a complete ... of definition, history & major arguments for and against metaphysical naturalism. Sacred Diary of Adrian Plass.Bacon Sandwiches and Salvation. Forgery and Counter forgery by www.bartdehrman.com/forgery-and-counterforgery. Josh McDowell Ministrywww.josh.org Andrew Dickson White, The history of the warfare of science with theology in Christendom. Pascal's Wager. www.google.com/search?q=apocalypse+of+peter+pdf&rlz=1CAIGZW_enFR898&oq=apoclypse+of+peter&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j46j0l5&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (The Apocalypse of Peter) Tim talks of the Book of Revelation (Description of the New Jerusalem 144 thousand )and 'Gematria' is brought up by Joel. Book by 'Carrier autotrons and the metatrons (my words)(couldn't find it)1:22 in the conversation. The Myth of Persecution, Candida Moss Richard Carrier in his book _Not the Impossible Faith The Triumph of Christianity, (Ehrman) David Fitsgerald. (Book on Mormons) End of Mark's Gospel. 153 miraculous catch. (Pythagoras) Vesica Piscis. (Tim's mention) Josephus' allegory. Dr Bob. There you go, mate.
@HarmonicAtheist4 жыл бұрын
@@davideldred.campingwilder6481 Wow, thank you!!! That's awesome. You are the man. I appreciate that.
@James-ms2mx10 ай бұрын
Hey Tim, Just wondering if you can point to the primary source quotes that show the Bible is myth. I’m just finding people who make these claims but I’m not seeing the primary source material. Thanks in advance!
@unicyclist979 ай бұрын
Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus" is scholarship which also links to even further scholarship demonstrating the mainstream academic position of the bible being myth.
@James-ms2mx9 ай бұрын
@@unicyclist97 Thanks. Just hoping to compare quotes from the Bible directly to the mythologies cited.
@unicyclist979 ай бұрын
@James-ms2mx an excellent example would be Jesus cursing the fig tree. From OHJ: The Passover Narrative contains one of the most peculiar (and obviously fictional) episodes in Mark’s entire Gospel: the withering of the fig tree. As history it makes no sense at all, not only because it defies the laws of physics, but also because Jesus’ behavior would be wholly illogical had such a thing actually happened-for he curses a fig tree because it isn’t bearing figs for him to eat... even though it wasn’t the season for figs! (Mk 11.12-14). The fig tree promptly withers to death before nightfall (Mk 11.19-22). Obviously this story is completely made up. But why write such a bizarre story? To illustrate a point. In other words, this is a parable about Jesus and the Gospel, a bit of fiction Mark has composed to communicate something he wants to say, using Jesus as its central character. As here, so everywhere else in his Gospel: Mark is writing parables about Jesus as a mythical character; he is not recording anyone’s memories of a historical man. The meaning of the fig tree episode is most plausibly explained by R.G. Hamerton-Kelly, who shows that it is really a parable that structurally symbolizes the Christian rejection of the whole system of temple sacrifice ‘The key to understanding’ the strange fig tree story, Hamerton-Kelly explains, is that ‘the attack on the traders is placed within the account of the attack on the fig tree’. In other words, the beginning and end of the fig tree story is wrapped around (and contains within its center) the clearing of the temple. The purpose of this structure (called intercalation) is to communicate that the one story illuminates the meaning of the other. Mark uses this device repeatedly. In this case, ‘the tree is a symbol of the sacrificial system whose time is now passed’, hence ‘it was not the season for figs’ any more (Mk 11.13); therefore ‘may no one eat fruit of you again’ (Mk 11.14). Which finally, and perfectly, explains this strange story.
@James-ms2mx8 ай бұрын
@@unicyclist97 The video discusses how the Bible takes mythologies from Homer and other Greek epics. I was wanting to see the exact quotes side by side
@unicyclist978 ай бұрын
@James-ms2mx Dennis MacDonald is the main proponent of that theory. He doesn't have much online presence so you'd need to either read his books or rely on one of his MythVision interviews.
@KeithPhlipot3 жыл бұрын
Joel I need to speak with you plz, religion related!