Would Porsche Taycan EV buyers be better off with a 560bhp PHEV Panamera 4S E-Hybrid?

The Porsche Taycan 4S is a pure EV I tested a few weeks ago but would many potential buyers be better served by buying the PHEV Panamera E-Hybrid instead? That's what I investigate in this video..
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[@sparky4878]

Just have to explain to the police officer, when pulled over, that you were going through the sub-menus to adjust the air vents. Surely all these touch screen functions can't be safe to use.

[@harrysgarage]

Think it's time legislators took note of all these touch screen operations on latest models. Starting to get silly now.

[@anonym3017]

germany already did back when a judge classed adjustig the wipers in a tesla (which is done in the infotainment) as distracted driving

[@robertcook2572]

Is there any evidence that the number and/or severity of RTAs has increased since touch screens started to become commonplace? Same goes for smart motorways. These things often seem bad, but are they always so? I remember when the Lotus Carlton was widely believed to be the most dangerous thing yet devised by mankind. Nowadays, if you had just 380hp you'd keep quiet down at 'Ye Olde Carbe and Camshafte' and hope nobody noticed.

[@VinderGroup3]

@@harrysgarage agreed, I also think it’s an irresponsible attempt at saving money for the manufacturers. Buy the cheap screen and make everything work off it rather than a physical control and sell it under the guise of modern technology.

[@redchristy]

They are not and I only have an octavia vrs 😂

[@FootToPedal]

Is it just me or does the Sport Turismo look so much better than the regular Panamera? Must be that wagon body style, looks so clean to me. Fantastic video as always Harry!

[@albertdesalvo7273]

Agreed.

[@apoorvachandras]

I've always thought that the Panamera would look good as a shooting brake rather than a pudgy looking saloon car. The Sport Turismo looks just right.

[@FootToPedal]

@@apoorvachandras Yeah I just find the roofline too high on the standard Panamera. I know this was deliberate but it throws the proportions way off imo

[@2552legoboy]

when people see one it makes them happy its looks so much better

[@davidowen2859]

Much prefer the saloon.

[@scotdoc]

Nice, but makes my 2nd hand under £30k 28k mile diesel Panamera that gives me 50 mpg seem like phenomenal value.

[@forbello]

Whatever your opinion on it’s details, this is absolutely the definition of ‘all the car you’d ever need’ Space, comfort, tech, speed, handling, hybrid economy & a Porsche badge on the bonnet.

[@paultaylor701]

Touch screen...how long until all these digital dashboards look like the 80s Aston Martin Lagonda?

[@TheophilusPWildbeest]

If only they'd make more cars that look like something from thunderbirds - oh hang on, cybertruck!

[@rickc2102]

One of these auto companies with the LCD gauges needs to wise up and create a Lagonda-style green-scale display mode.

[@stringer-ik1pc]

@Paul Fellows stupid comment. They're worth a fortune. Carry on playing with your trains set. Knob.

[@2Truth2you]

Touch screens are vomit. Tesla 3 for sale with flat battery. Charge station 85km away. Will need to be towed.

[@revolutronic]

especially when you think classic cars.these things will be completely unusable within the next 20 years. if you want to preserve nowaday cars you´ll need a fleet of IT specialists who restore ECUs and displays

[@mattevans4377]

I miss the days when the sport saloon and sport estate were popular. Sporty SUVs just make zero sense to me, and the SUV coupes even less so.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

It’s not rocket science, some people prefer the raised driving position, them being easier to get in and out of and it being easier to get stuff in and out of them. The sporty ones make less sense but try getting someone to buy a high end model with no performance.

[@mattevans4377]

@@Jabber-ig3iw Rolls Royce: Are we a joke to you?

[@mattevans4377]

@@moa-wg3bo But you don't buy a Rolls for speed was my point.

[@nabahmadi5012]

Well it sells. And with porche, the cayenne saved them. Suv 4 door coupes, with the swooping rear roof, DO not make sense to me..I agree with you.

[@mattevans4377]

@@nabahmadi5012 Define saved? Because building aborted fetuses and calling them cars sounds more like purgatory than salvation.

[@jon623197]

Another great vid Harry, thank you for all of your time and effort, and for passing on you're knowledge. It's greatly appreciated. Stay safe and I hope you and your family have a great new year. Jon.

[@CarBore]

I see a Harrys Garage Video, I click without even caring what it is 😂👍

[@rajjy1976]

How very original 😒

[@CarBore]

@@rajjy1976 Oh dear

[@Brownalebelly]

Happy 2021 Harry and thank you for the joy you have brought to us and for the joy you are going to bring to us. Stay safe!

[@flytwin1772]

Try to adjust the heating system on a touch screen whilst you driving on a bumpy road in a rainy night, be happy when you survive!

[@P.Galore]

Happy New Year Harry!....LOVE the tail light design Porsche is using now - thin tube lighting taking full advantage of technology. I've never driven a first generation Panamera but I did ride in the back seat and that was enough to add it to my bucket list - just sensational.

[@hpman911]

It’s just to big for your average UK country road. Marked parking bays won’t accommodate it either, let alone a single garage space.

[@stephane_edouard]

That back end si so 928GTS inspired

[@1954telecaster]

Not really...

[@stevenkelby2169]

Yes it sure is reminiscent of the old 928. That was also a fat pig!

[@notDonaldFagen]

I heard the 928 was coming back. Is that still true?

[@mro9466]

Les Porsche c'est du chinois !

[@fraserwright9482]

Corvette front/A6/911 rear that is the Panamera design formula.

[@irvings159]

Looked forward to this all day!

[@The_Foulmouthed_Cypriot]

Another fantastic video from Harry to kick off 2021.

[@DPPremier]

What about warming up the engine in a hybrid? I mean when you just used electric power till a certain point and then you want to really push on-don't you then have to wait for the engine to warm up first?

[@robtt997]

A feeling of heft ! That sums up most ev . I remember SAAB used to have a night mode button. All lighting turned off on the dash except the speedo. It was a good thing. Wish modern cars had the same button as I find the ‘iPad’ dashboards distracting when driving .

[@richardharrold9736]

Never understood why you'd want to black out the other gauges, especially the tach...

[@robtt997]

@@richardharrold9736 It was less distracting . Any warning gauge would light up as necessary .

[@richardharrold9736]

@@robtt997 if I wanted to black anything out, the LAST gauge to go would be the tach. Most important gauge on any car.

[@SS8000cars]

Worth mentioning Harry that another advantage of the Porsche system is that you can charge on the move and fairly quickly, on motorways is the most efficient and fastest way. It does affect the fuel consumption in Sports Plus whilst charging but again allows you flexibility if on a longer journey.

[@Mattssooon]

You are actually missing the full sports exhaust on that car, there is just the black sport exhaust tips. If you would have PSE there is always an icon next to the spoiler icon on the central display. The sound is actually much better with the PSE. :)

[@colinpbarrett]

Agreed, I also noticed that at 12 mins in. The quad tailpipes doesn’t necessarily mean the sports exhaust system has been spec’d. I activate mine on every journey! (Drives my wife mad 😆)

[@andrewhill9513]

Great video again. As an engineer I often wonder how this sort of car is driven and the wear and tear on the engine before it's warmed up. Starting off in electric, driving from home, getting out of town, then the road opens up and "the beans" are used, thrashing a cold engine isn't good for it. I've not experience a hybrid, so don't know if the car protects itself. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts

[@hpman911]

Can’t believe Porsche haven’t thought of this as it’s pretty fundamental.

[@gambiting]

@@hpman911 You really think Porsche hasn't thought about it??? My own Volvo XC60 PHEV when driven in pure electric mode circulates the oil in the engine at full pressure, heats up the oil using the auxilary heater, and the oil is 0W20 so it's practically water. I can absolutely guarantee that if Volvo could figure this out 5 years ago, Porsche also has this sorted out. Also if you're like most regular drivers in this country, the engine will very rarely run at all - so the longevity of the engine will be an order or two of magnitude longer than in a regular non-PHEV version.

[@hpman911]

@@gambiting My post was sarcastic ie I was saying of course they HAD thought about it due to their engineering expertise . I can’t believe there are so many posts on this video asking basically the same question over and over. Glad to hear Volvo have managed a solution and I’m sure Porsche have something very similar in place as well.

[@gambiting]

@@hpman911 ah. Sorry, I didn't see the sarcasm :-D

[@rmc4795]

Another good real world review, thanks Harry

[@TheTsAndre]

I've been driving in some of these new Hybrids that have this full eletric mode which is great however theres one little thing that really tingles my mechanical sympathy. The combustion engine only helps when you really want to step on it, but if you do the engine suddenly starts completly cold from 0 rpm to a very high rpm and demanding regime, can't this be damaging to the engine overtime? Or what have they engineered so these engines are made to rev high from the start?

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

This is why a hybrid is flawed.

[@hpman911]

I’m certain the boffins of a company like Porsche have researched and developed engineering solutions for what is basically a pretty fundamental question!

[@arjanpetersen]

No

[@arjanpetersen]

@@user-jt1jv8vl9r nope.... you mean to say... you are flawed.

[@amancalledjames9345]

I was standing by the road on Christmas Day having a ride out on my motorbike to meet up with my kids, and a Taycan went past - I was suprised by the road noise. Especially as one of these went past a minute later and the road noise virtually drowned out and engine noise.

[@ScottZ370]

I'm sure Porsche has thought it through but does the engine technically go from cold/freshly started to being required at 85mph if it's default is electric only?

[@edc1569]

sure, like every other PHEV, same deal with a 2015 Golf GTE, thing is over the life time of the car the engine still has an easier life, no idling - minimal low output operation. Of course if you're going to gun it, then get the engine running a bit before and give it an easier time.

[@davewilshere]

Exactly what I was about to type. As someone who used the oil temp gauge on my GTI Golf MK1 as a reference and not the water temp gauge. You can get in this, drive far enough to forget the ic engine is cold and suddenly decide to be a hooligan and light up the poor petrol engine to 6k plus. Just another way car manufacturers will reduce rage life of our cars...like 30k first oil change on my Transit Sport...Nooo changed the oil at 6,000 and every 10 since.

[@billandyeng]

Porsche PHEVs would always start the engine if ambient temperature is below 0 C. In addition, when the engine first kicks in, it will keep running until it's in the normal operating window. In effect, unless you always start the engine with very hard acceleration, it's not that different to normal cold start.

[@AdamDUrso]

@@davewilshere I imagine the engine is warmed through though when it's gunning it - there are heat exchangers between the batteries and the engine oil/coolant - so it's not going flat out from totally cold as it were. Plus I'm sure the engine has been engineered with the particular usage profile in mind!

[@Fondmental]

Thought exact the same thing when Harry floored it. But I think is up to the driver to control the driving mode and put some heat to engine in the first few miles. Otherwise would be just too violent for a cold engine to be reved like that.

[@sarajackson3375]

Great video as always, I think the Sport Turismo will have some stiff competition when the Taycan Sport Turismo is available though.

[@moo4rich]

Does it warm the engine on E ready for when it's need?

[@edc1569]

a little bit with some waste heat from the inverter/motor, probably get you about 20 + ambient

[@richardkennett4086]

I have to say I think the lines of the Taycan are better both in standard and Sport Turismo. The build on both is astonishing. I chose the Taycan and I was doing around 400 miles a weeks and some long journeys and when you know where the charging point are it is never an issue. You soon forget about the engine. If you want amazing engine sound and you can afford one of these cars, you could also ways have a 911 GT3 or a Caymen/Boxter GTS for weekend. Most of these cars are bought through the company so the tax advantage is the key. Hence the Taycan is the bests selling Porsche today. Great Video though Harry and love your style and reviews. Total respect for all you do! Thanks!

[@joetacchino4470]

Harry, you make some good points. However, I think the answer is highly dependent on use case. I personally use a Tesla as my daily driver. I can charge at home and have no issues doing days of close to 200 miles without recharging. I’m far more efficient than any hybrid. And I really worry in a hybrid with the engine constantly cutting into life and going to hard throttle when stone cold. We do have a diesel SUV with 600 miles plus range when we road trip though. And there are plenty of Superchargers where I love and road trip that it’s not a problem finding charging. I recognize that not everyone has this luxury. I would posit that the plug in hybrid is far less stressful to live with....until you get used to owning a true long range EV. Once you do, the anxiety subsides and you discover it’s not as bad as you think. Thanks for the great content and the thought provoking question.

[@billandyeng]

Most of the Taycan sold in the UK are company cars. You don’t get the same BIK tax relief with PHEV. As a personal car, PHEV no longer has any tax advantage over normal petrol cars. Both are taxed on value, both are liable for CC and exempt for ULEZ. For the price of a Panamera 4S E-Hybrid, I could buy a 718 GTS 4.0 and a Renault Zoe / Honda E / Nissan Leaf.

[@thedrivebygg]

Great video as always, I tested BMW I8 quire a few years back and that also ran on electric only up to 70mph I think, could be a good shout getting one of them back for a video to see how far hybrids have or haven’t moved on

[@philipprosapio2295]

Great video. I just ordered that exact car in blue here in Minnesota. We get very cold and have very few charging options except at home. I have a 2018 Panamera 4e hybrid to sell/trade in and often times can go a thousand miles on a tank of gas because I live only 6 miles from work. But, as you noted, I can use this type car for long distance without range anxiety. Seriously considered a Taycan but, our electric charging infrastructure just isn’t there yet. Phil Little Falls, MN

[@jaapthieme6561]

I would be prefer this one much more! Happy New Year Harry!

[@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab]

Too expensive for what it is, and seems maybe a bit characterless? Great Vid though, Harry. 👍🏻

[@martinboulden3540]

We need Harry on Top Gear with Chris Harris.

[@richardharrold9736]

Plus Tiff Needell for the wild factor.

[@kakester]

this car has all wheel drive and its the perfect daily driver who tends to do long trips for skiing.. my dream car

[@bentullett6068]

There is a interesting thing they have put on the Toyota website as they have fitted some recording devices to their hybrid cars to show show how much electric and power power they use on a journey. You could actually see that the car mostly used its electric power in built up area's and it only tended use its petrol engine on the faster or longer roads.

[@wotrulke5868]

Great review as always 👍🏼 I hope the new lockdown regulations ( as of 04/01/2021 ) don’t stop your channel, stay safe 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@gabers99]

I can’t wait for the new Defender review.

[@oreally8605]

Absolutely huge isn't it?

[@davidbillberg2203]

innit *

[@johnhaynes9910]

Toucan or Panama I really don't care because neither would fit the bill for me. However what I find interesting is that Harry has always been consistent on the whole EV/ICE thing and I can remember his excellent videos on both the Jaguar iPace and the electric mini, the technology may be undercooked for EVs currently but the supporting infrastructure most certainly is. The amusing thing about EVs is that apart from a handful of mainly city driving aimed models, the majority of them are way too expensive to such an extent that if you are paying the best part of £40k for something pretty bog standard, it is far less of a stretch to buy something "exotic" which is quite odd really.

[@mattsurrey6138]

Really surprised there isn't a Macan E-performance yet... Happy with my 911 (4 seats and good storage, what else do you need), but can really see the attraction of the Panamera GT as a non-SUV "family" car for long trips. BTW 02:50 "I'm sure there is a deal to do with your Porsche dealer". Yeh, good luck with that!

[@brettsta72]

Harry I have a BMW 330e and it’s taken me a while to get my head around the ‘MPG’. I think the reading on the dashboard ignores the impact of electricity consumption. Thus while your 50 mile trip might say 60mpg, that doesn’t take into account the 17kw or electricity used as well, and the electricity isn’t free. Therefore, I honestly haven’t been able to easily understand if the costs are that much lower than a diesel.

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

As always, your analysis resonates with my common sense. I could live with an all EV daily because I almost never go beyond their range. But I'd still likely prefer a Hybrid. I'd pay for the parasitic generator (the gas engine) just to eliminate the possibility of ever needing a remote charge. Mean while, I still want my vintage IC sports car to have fun. My carbon footprint is pretty small. I don't need to go nuts.

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

More interested in the Taycan Sport Turismo. Once you've lived with an EV (I went from two C63s then an E63 to a Model S), I don't really want all the nonsense that comes with IC (starter motors, gearshifts, SLOW and noisy). Really not interested in going to petrol stations either. It's a very different motoring life with an EV (waking up to a full tank and a warm car!) but I have no interest in going back to ICE for my daily (still have ICE classic bikes and cars of course but not for the daily). I think all ICE cars seem like classics after EVs. Controversial opinion I realise but there you go. I agree with you Harry, that dailies will be EV and classics will remain ICE as per your classics/2030 video. I think that's spot on.

[@onepairofhands]

like your review Harry - but what does your grandson think of the Launch control - thats the killer question

[@lebirch3078]

You started loosing me at 2.7tonnes, then soft close doors, then powered vents, I thought the hole idea was to become more efficient???

[@markgilbertson1564]

My thoughts entirely. 2.7 tonnes is commercial vehicle weight. How much more raw materials are needed to make this instead a proper estate like a Merc E Class or Skoda Superb?

[@lebirch3078]

@@markgilbertson1564 why not make the most of this amazing technology and bin all the crap bolted on that nobody needs electric/massage seats, they are 100kg plus each, “soft close” this and that, motorised door handle (WTF is that all about), an Alpine A110 approach Is what is required.

[@lebirch3078]

Not to mention all the particulates produced by trying slow down such a mass. Brakes, tyres, etc. Tax for vehicles should be on weight, that would take a few options off the list!

[@guvernator23]

But when you start in pure electric, the engine is not warm when you suddenly mid way give it more throttle and you will be beating on a cold engine...Gl with the warranty on that,

[@rjnation5042]

Looks so much better as a wagon than a sedan, & the colour is gorgeous really like that & I'm not a red car guy, big car but looks like a bit of fun could be had with it, Rj in Oz

[@torqueover]

Ooh excellent! It has a compass, that's a clincher for me. Take my 118 grand :)

[@russella7263]

If that has the sports tailpipes option at £617 then it doesn’t have the sports exhaust system which costs £2313 as the two options are mutually exclusive. Might explain why Harry thought it was a bit quiet.

[@zlatanmorrison8182]

Will the industry, in this brave new EV world, be launching a car that normal motorists can actually afford? or is the plan just to price all the peasants off the road? :)

[@markgilbertson1564]

You have nailed it Zlatan.

[@cervelo9465]

You ought to put this Panamera vs. Audi RS6 Avant. Very interesting.

[@alanmaxted6215]

Your face looked quite bewildered at times. All quite novel and interesting....but I’ll wait for the “fun “ cars that are coming, all those displays were too much for me - life is getting far too complicated and I’ll stick to my Boxster thanks.

[@gregfitzmaurice2504]

A masive amount of the Taycans you see will be tax write offs due to the 0% BIK which is only on pure electric cars... It makes them a lot cheaper to anyone who runs a business which is likely to be most people who can afford one to begin with!

[@yodab.at1746]

I just love the way the rich are subject to these tax breaks. So deserving.

[@gregfitzmaurice2504]

@@yodab.at1746 It is silly but I suspect the reason is without the tax breaks nobody would buy one and the 2030 electric target would look even more silly... I suspect most Model 3 Teslas are company cars you see on the road the only reason I have ordered a Polestar 2 as mt company car is due to the BIK otherwise I would have much rather had a nice spec 3 series...

[@th3b0untyhunter]

Looks are subjective. There's one of these that visits our undercroft several times a week and personally I'm a real fan. My Cayenne owning neighbour loves it too and says he's sorely tempted by a Panamera Sport Turismo when replacement time occurs.

[@Trendyflute]

I never cared for the headlights on this generation of Panamera; too big, makes the front look mousy, but it's a big car so it kinda breaks the design. The rest of it is lovely. I wish they had kept the Panamera sized like the 1st gen; the Panamera used to be more of a 5-series sized machine competing in a 7-series class, which added to its sporty character; now it's just as big as an S-class or 7-series and that takes something away from the Panamera in the market IMO. Also agree 100% on the interior touch screens...it's ridiculous what manufacturers are doing, it's like they never bothered to ask "is this better?"

[@Spleen214]

Another good video. Thanks and as usual your reviews reflect what people are thinking as they watch. It might of been just me but at the start when you where driving on electric power it sounded like there was a terrible drone coming from the tyres?

[@superseven7947]

What a beautiful car!! I'd consider one a few years old when the value drops a bit!!

[@jameselliott9384]

Hi Harry, my father has just gone from the panamera E-Hybrid to the Taycan, he had nothing but problems with the Panamera. He said he would not go back to the Panamera and he has two of them now (first one was a diesel). Also large wheels on the panamera make an awful noise when turning the wheels when stationary.

[@R-Tap]

After any 911 a Pan S.T. is my fav Porker. Nice gentleman's spec.

[@geriatricmotorcars9516]

A complete cruiser A nice used proposition in a few years Proper review

[@stuartpagelane9823]

Thank you Harry

[@miamimo70]

It's a glorious cockpit

[@cervelo9465]

I agree. Pure electric re range and re charging still concerns me. From my home in Abergavenny I would drive to e.g. North Wales, or Lake District, or Scotland, or Northern France via tunnel or ferry. I still perceive full electric as an issue for long journeys. On times I have driven 500 miles per day in rural places. Don't really want to identify charging station, wait to charge. In the case of Taycan, it's a beautiful car, but I'd have one eye on the range and the range is only quoted as 253 miles. For brisk motorway driving the Taycan could be out of juice in 3 hours or less on motorway, not very good (for me)

[@perarduaadastra873]

What about warming the V6 up before instantly going to a wide open throttle having been only driving on electric for the start?

[@Ortoped007]

Nice summary. However you never mention that Taycan doesn't need any usual service including changing all kind of fluids and oils, all rubber hoses, brakes and so on. It would be more easy to own. 20 minutes charging time to 80% is impressive. And will actually be enough for most people. Don't you think so?

[@jost4786]

Very nice car, but my X5 45e is even more practical. On a 552 km trip in Norway this Christmas with average speed 87 km/hr, average consumption was 7,5 litre/100km. I drive fully electric on a daily basis.

[@nickfarrington2390]

No - I'm going to offer a contrary view. The big touchscreen was the thing I worried about most when buying a Tesla Model 3, but it's been no problem. All the stuff that's tricky to do, like the mirrors adjustment, you should be doing whilst stationary anyway. Other stuff is either just as easy as buttons, or has a button (there are two scroll wheel / buttons on the steering wheel), or has a voice command that works well. Even the much maligned windscreen wipers have a physical button you can tap to make it wipe the windscreen, or a push to make it wash/wipe. I've gone from being worried about it to a complete change around - I would not buy a new vehicle that didn't have a large, landscape-orientated central touchscreen. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.

[@SamAustin]

Always a great video Harry 👍

[@paultaylor9652]

Lovely Jubbly Harry, car doesn't quite match your presentational skills.

[@MelodyOo]

Love the hatchback panamera I so hope to own one one day.

[@christmasisawesome9348]

I would love to hear your thoughts on the Turbo S E-hybrid. Really enjoyed your videos!

[@basvanbeers3515]

Dear Harry. A 240v plug van be had in every Skoda except the citigo.

[@muhammadzailani7313]

The colour is beautiful.

[@nastybun]

I'd rather something with more electric and less petrol - like the range-extender motor idea. Basically a pure electric car but with an on-board emergency generator. If the rumours of Mazda making a little rotary suited to the task are true, that could be a real neat solution.

[@tobiasliebstvonobelitz6554]

The Panemera in my country for this specific model is more than 100K £ more than the regular 4S taycan. The taycan Turbo S can actually be had for less than the car in question 😅

[@ColinMill1]

I eventually found out the reason for the vent controls being on the touch screen. It is to satisfy the needs of the Chinese market where cars in this class are largely chauffeur driven and the owner controls the vents from a screen in the back (an optional extra of course). Needless to say, I agree with those that have commented about how dangerous the touch screen controls pandemic has become. Time was when motoring journalists would pan a car for having look-alike & feel-alike switches etc. Time they started doing this again.

[@ronb4633]

I love the Taycan, but I’m in California where charging infrastructure is plentiful. I realize that’s not the case yet for the UK so I understand the uneasiness of taking the plunge to pure electric. That being said, only one set of propulsion systems is always a better thing for reduced complexity. The Taycan Sport Tourismo is coming soon.

[@JackS425]

All of that complexity and expense for 30 miles of electric range in ideal conditions.

[@richardharrold9736]

Silent zero-emissions local commuting/good neighbour mode plus strong performance and the range of a petrol car... yeah, it's a compromise, but less of one than the Taycan.

[@mikecraig8454]

Chris Harris has got a Turbo....that tells you a lot

[@ericpisch2732]

He has a yellow 911 GT3 Touring, which replaced the black 911 GT3 Touring that got written off

[@rajjy1976]

No he hasn’t. Knob.

[@anthony90123]

Anyone shares the same thought with me that the Panamera Sport Turismo would be the answer of that ‘if you could own any one car for all purposes’ question ？

[@elliottwhitfield1046]

Fantastic video Harry

[@TheDoosh79]

Panamera is a nicer looking car IMO. If you drive it purely in hybrid mode how quickly does it lose electric charge? Obviously it's only 560PS when it has charge.

[@ksteak27]

Harry: Love the videos. Do you think that, with all this tech, these cars will be basically totaled by repair costs in 10 years or so (much like the Mercedes S and CL classes of 10 years ago)? ie so expensive to fix that it's just not worth fixing?? I fear what the future of the used-car market will look like due to all of the fancy bits these days. I love my 2004 911.... it's a great car with just the basics. Would love to hear your thoughts on what the future used-car market will look like.

[@rab008]

Dear Harry, we would like to see you reviewing the Lexus LFA

[@markgilbertson1564]

If you can find one I am sure Harry will review it.

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

Do not adjust your smart TV screens..normal petrol head service will resume shortly !

[@Rx37Legacy]

Like many others i also wonder about the revving of a cold engine, but also what about cooling down the engine and turbo(s)? If it just drops dead the second you let go off the gas there's no oil going through the turbo (unless they have separate electrical pumps) which would burn the bearings quite fast.

[@hpman911]

Do you not think that Porsche engineering has not studied and come up with solutions for these basic engineering questions?

[@Rx37Legacy]

@@hpman911 Most likely yes but it'd be fun to know how it worked.

[@davidbillberg2203]

That colour is awesome. Same as the Heritage series ?

[@zypp33]

Excellent vid,thanks.

[@patrickneighbour3469]

I don't get these expensive hybrids. The only thing they save is fuel but if I can drop 100K on a car why would I be worried about cost of fuel? If I'm concerned about the environment I'd get a Taycan (If I did the miles to warrent it). I'd love to see a Taycan Turismo.

[@ronsmith9251]

I really like the Sport Turismo. Somehow the sport wagon back end completes the Panamera.

[@cervelo9465]

Panamera Hybrid, very good daily driver

[@skimmingstoness]

At present I think the Hybrid is a better buy until the infrastructure and range of electric cars improves. No range anxiety but most of the same benefits of the electric Taycan.

[@madant7777]

Having seen the Taycan accelerate silently from stop, and looking at it every working day, this Panamera is infinitely more enjoyable and fun. Also bigger.

[@Geraldlord5303]

Thank you for that information very helpful

[@catastrophic009]

At this moment in time I would have the Panamera but for me to have the the Taycan at a future date they will have to give it a face lift ...I just think Porsche have not designed the front very well. It reminds of an eighties sports car but I can't put my finger on it..For me it is all about looks !!

[@lukestocks4370]

Fantastic video

[@HQBProductions]

One thing worries me,....you start off on a cold, frosty morning and bowl along on electric power..then comes a need to overtake something and the poor engine fires up and revs straight to 5000rpm whilst stone cold...just what does that do for engine life?? I like this car...but it suffers tremendous depreciation so best bought at 50% of list when 18 months old...then it makes more sense. 🧐🧐😃😃😃

[@chrish4483]

I quite like this car and the Turbo S Hybrid variant...Does this car do the regenerative braking that the Turbo S hybrid does? That should extend your all electric range

[@sallykoep]

A likely problem for all buyers of pure electric cars will be the impact on used values of the greater driving range of newer EVs as battery and motor technology advance. I might lease an EV, but I don't think I'd buy one.

[@aed2047]

Had one of these, just replaced it with a turbo S Taycan. Except the range, the Taycan wins hands down for me. My conclusion was like Harry’s on the Panamera at first but then I got really bored of it. It’s just not exciting to drive. You can drive it fast but you have to press various buttons and get not enough reward, frankly, the car encourages you to drive very slowly. It is a comfortable cruiser that tries to get you to fall asleep rather than excite you. That’s not a Porsche for me. The Taycan has one power source, drives like a sports car (I have some really good ones, so I know) and is a much better car for mixing practicality and fun. The only journey the Pan is better for is a ski trip to the alps or something like that. Otherwise choose the Taycan. Not for saving the planet, because EVs are a bit of a dud in that respect, but because it is the better car most of the time.