StarCraft II ALL UNITS Tierlist with SCARLETT, Lambo and Harstem

Lambo And Scarlett joined me today to create an EPIC StarCraft II Tierlist ranking all units.
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[@WhitefoxSpace]

A German, Canadian, and Dutchman walk into a bar. Everybody has a fantastic time.

[@carlthegamer9215]

Totally, Not just the the peeps joining the bar, but everyone else in the bar as well.

[@nightmareTomek]

Only if the music is too loud.

[@artoahremaa9253]

Harstem trying to convince two top Zergs about the capabilities of the Lurker feels like an episode of Shark tank

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

"And when you're not fighting, it even works as a can opener!"

[@jaewonkim279]

S tier comment

[@michaelwicker9538]

It should have been a top player of each race. Then the terrain can complain about how aggressively lurkers ruin terrain stuff and force out expensive counters.

[@gabrielstille5502]

As a protoss I believe the lurker is B tier, very annoying to play against

[@Benjamin-ed9jv]

@@michaelwicker9538 oh no they force out the ghost we toooootally didn't want any of those

[@yagizkaradagoglu8545]

Harstem is sticking to his words of never befriending a Terran player

[@yugonostalgia8961]

Based

[@JohnDoe-l4d9h]

we demand an update, but with special!

[@4utoxic]

@@yugonostalgia8961 or just gay

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@4utoxic Also based

[@hansonwu6880]

Harstem in ladder streaming: Raven must be an S tier unit. Harstem in discussion of units: Raven may be an B tier

[@flappy7373]

harstem on his youtube video: the raven is the best unit in the game. it's a detector, it can disable units. it can apply -4 armor in huge AOE, it can deal heavy damage with auto turrets, and those turrets range and armor can be upgraded. they should make disable cost 225 energy, which is more than the raven is born with, that's how strong they are. roughly quoted, to elaborate on OP's comment

[@bobby4tw]

I am more amazed of how they chose to skip Reaper. It's an amazing scout and can do some very good early harass.

[@bobby4tw]

@@flappy7373 Between timestamp 1:18:30 to 1:19:00 Harstem actually says that Raven is way too low Tier and he want it at a higher Tier.

[@jeremyduke4938]

Siege tanks are in every single terran game ive ever seen. How are they not s tier?

[@Mike_416]

@@bobby4tw I also felt that way. They shouldn't have skipped overlords and workers either. Those are units that impact the game. They should be ranked. Especially considering some workers are better than others.

[@poryphorion1917]

The entire Warp Prism commentary is hilarious, with Harstem not thinking it's that good, and the incredulous looks that Lambo and Scarlett are sharing XD

[@WhitefoxSpace]

This was super fun, it'd be great if you could do one with a Terran player too, so then if there's disagreement on a races unit the player who mains that race can be the tiebreaker always :) Edit: but you can't remove Lambo or Scarlett so it'd need to be 4; your 3's chemistry is too good

[@siergeyxaxaxa6611]

and possibly this video could be 3hr long :)

[@Tom-yg7mi]

wish there would be a terran player too

[@MrPikminmaster]

Pretty sure mr harstem has all Terran players blocked 😂😭

[@bigchunk1]

"Siege Tank can't be good" lol

[@sechristen]

If special was here this video would be 3 hours of comedy gold

[@Szerspliexiust]

Adept 0:30 Archon 1:41 Baneling 3:26 Banshee 5:03 Battlecruiser 6:34 Broodlord 8:41 Carrier 10:53 Colossus 13:36 Corruptor 15:21 Cyclone 17:03 Dark Templar 18:24 Disruptor 19:46 Drone 22:00 (removed afterwards) Ghost 22:29 Hellbat 24:13 Hellion 25:31 Swarmhost 27:02 Hydralisk 28:30 Immortal 30:54 Infestor 32:49 Liberator 35:12 Lurker 36:50 Marauder 39:54 Marine 42:33 Medivac 43:56 Mothership 45:26 Mutalisk 47:57 Observer 51:08 (removed afterwards) Oracle 51:39 Phoenix 53:23 (overlord and overseer skipped) Warp Prism 55:03 Queen 57:57 (probe skipped) Ravager 59:41 Raven 1:00:21 Reaper 1:01:21 (skipped) Roach 1:02:14 Sentry 1:03:08 (scv skipped) Stalker 1:04:53 Siege Tank 1:06:34 Tempest 1:07:34 High Templar 1:07:53 Thor 1:09:42 Ultralisk 1:10:19 Viking 1:11:08 Viper 1:12:09 Void Ray 1:13:41 Widow Mine 1:14:12 Zealot 1:16:16 Zergling 1:17:54 REVIEW 1:18:29

[@immortalkhang8294]

Thank you, sir.

[@noneofyourbusiness4133]

All praise the time stamp guys!!!!

[@Lightkie]

If you don't have time to watch them all, choose the Lurker.

[@ahgolux]

Goat

[@tompartlow515]

ty brother

[@helloken]

I always wished Mothership could not be abducted. It's a hero unit and massive. It's immune to some spells, I think an argument could be made to make it immune to abduct. But maybe then it's too good? I dunno, I just wish Mothership was more used...

[@matthewxue3332]

W video captain

[@korakys]

That picture of the raven sticks out a bit with the white background. There is another reason it catches my eye: I made that picture, over a decade ago. I took a screenshot of it and cropped it then uploaded it to Liquipedia. It's nice to see it still being used all these years later. It might be a minuscule legacy, but, hey, that's my work there. (And I'm still using a green raven as my avatar to this day, lol.)

[@korakys]

Also, fun fact: that raven has a white Protoss decal on the side because I've always been a Protoss player. Hehe, I had forgotten I'd done that.

[@1am2strong4you]

wow

[@Timmsh88]

Cool info :)

[@jacobfaro9571]

I’d be cool if they make a hero unit in the editor with your name.

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

No Terran player gets a voice.... just like it should always be 😌😌

[@connormcneely7103]

You should definitely do a Scarlett, Lambo, Harstem podcast! I loved this! I'd love to see more in depth discussions on how everyone feels about the "cutting edge" of the ever-changing SC2 Meta.

[@Momo-96]

Never really watch Lambo but he sounds like he has a lot of Starcraft IQ . Very smart player and understands the game very well

[@tigera6]

They call him "the Professor" in EU scene, he seems to know about every single build, their timing and how to scout them out.

[@ledrash6079]

Especially after he coached Reynor to the win!

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

Lambo has much theoretical knowledge of the game and decent mechanics, although there are a lot of other players who are better mechanically (multi-tasking and speed) but his mindset is incredibly weak compared to the rest. That's why he's gonna perform well on ladder and in games in usual but will perform infinitely worse in any tournaments or if he knows he's playing high-calibre players. Sad thing tbh, i wish him more success in tournaments.

[@MikeGuarino69]

Those tournaments during the pandemic with harstem and lambo casting were SS tier

[@PantoniStrikesBack]

At first I was thinking that the video was too long, then I started watching. Before I even noticed, an hour went by. Great stuff, and really fun. Cheers!

[@Vendettavic]

happened to me too. When Harstem said "it was a good hour and a half" i thought "¿what?" felt like 20 minutes.

[@eduardomissi7804]

me too man, would watch another hour easily

[@Sargatha]

Even though I had a few disagreements with your list, I just want to say I appreciate the heck what you, Scarlett and Lambo does for the SC2 community! I love this game so much and thank you for keeping it what it is after 12 years! Still entertaining :)

[@tigera6]

And I would appreciate more if they can share some progress about the "Balance Committee" that they have been working on. Since the lastest patch of nerfing double SG Voidray and Queen Walk, there has been zero further information about wheres that heading next.

[@xTobsecretx]

I love that y’all took on the absurd task of ranking starcraft2 units - love y’all. Also S:“Didn’t Clem win against carriers?” H:“Wooh, against me” 😂 that exchange killed me.

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

Yeah that was great self - depricating humor

[@Hailanthedaddy]

I would love to see a terran as uthermal or reynor in here

[@carlodimaandal]

The three of you should do more videos together

[@getz721]

Thank you for bringing some intelligent people to your channel. It makes me feel smarter. People with low IQ, like you and I, can make ourselves seem smarter when we surround ourselves with intelligent people. We can let them spout their brilliant ideas and then we pretend those ideas were our own original thoughts. This is what makes you and I absolutely brilliant. Also I may have made the masterly decision to use a thesaurus, because I cannot think of other words for intelligent by myself. This is the highest IQ move I can think of.

[@theOrkinman09]

You 3 together are a riot, please do more collaborations!

[@rhodescolossus8184]

The medivac is used in (early-) mid- and lategame in all 3 matchups. The micropotential is insane and drops can decide games single handedly. It is an easy S-tier. I'd put it above the oracle.

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

100% agree its probably the beast unit in the game since marines are reliant on the medivac

[@zuruumi9849]

Harstem always feels like he overstates the Protos unit capabilities while understating the rest.

[@DemonXeron]

It's great watching these 2 professional gamers and this professional idiot (Harstem) in this video together. Got to see my fave starcraft 2 player again as well which is great. Alongside Harstem and lambo of course. Don't worry Harstem, I also identify as a professional idiot.

[@starcraft2own]

Watching Uthermal challenges regularly made this list very strange. Truly goes to show how different the game is between high level games and top level games. Uthermal is not bad but he isn't playing against the best so he can still make units work where normally they shouldn't. Very interesting video.

[@jacobsvensson8193]

any unit could be s tier if controlled by a pro vs a casual player

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

uThermal plays masters and below in all of his challenges, his challenges usually end pretty soon into GM because players get too good. Seeing a GM beat up small league players really doesn't say ANYTHING about balance. Also his tournament wins with silly stuff are usually vs players a lot worse than him, if they're near his level, the weird stuff most often doesn't work anymore because it's not played for a reason.

[@jacobsvensson8193]

@@asdfasdf-mn8iu What are you talking about? Who said anything about balance?

[@housemana]

@@jacobsvensson8193 what are YOU talking about, you fkin goof? the balance has always been in this topic.

[@benza8946]

Man we're lucky we had Scarlett and Lambo, I feel like if we had harstem alone making the tier list it would have been a disaster lol

[@EvanNagao]

i know it's a meme, but Drone, Probe and SCV are all S tier, cuz they are the most important units in the game.

[@knoxtibia3330]

SCV is S tier because 5 more HP and can repair other units, damn thor SCV pushes Probe and Drone B tier lol

[@EvanNagao]

@@knoxtibia3330 Using that logic, probe is S tier for cannon rush

[@Nicoarielpkr]

So goooooooooooooooooooood, loved this pro team

[@DoggyP00]

Harstem: higher? Lambo: definitely lower Scarlett: I think lower Harstem: higher it is

[@bigchunk1]

I was entertained by this. Lambo was only willing to accept S tier for warp prism.

[@Timmsh88]

If you guys would do a SC2 podcast i would tune in every episode. Love you guys!

[@chewminem2044]

Scarlet is forever the hive queen!

[@knuppel8875]

I don't even play this game why idk like your content so much wth.

[@bigchunk1]

I watch Asmongold, I don't even play World of Warcraft. Sometimes you just like the personality of the individual making the videos.

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

You've interrupted my Winter cast with this banger, I have no choice but to watch right away

[@bigchunk1]

You'll never know what the Bronze League Heroes did this time.

[@Nodjia]

I know this is late to the discussion, but I think the cyclone is pretty interesting because I see it a lot in early game play for shutting down all ins, sniping queens or ravagers or individual protoss units. I'm glad its above the banshee. I find the disruptor commentary to be very interesting as well. I think the disruptor is high value, not necessary because it "does really well" so much as it completely shuts down non-micro playstyle. It forces a player to look at the fight the entire time because if they look away, they lose 4-8 units per shot. I feel that some units just fundamentally alter the physical mechanics of playing the game.

[@Leonhart_93]

On the other hand if your micro is below par you just don't play bio. Tanks, mines, storms and lurkers are all made to counter bio. Splash damage is a staple in all 3 matchups. If you can't deal with the splash then the army should be at least a big part made of mech. But the disruptor has to be that lethal because mines are just that lethal and bio is very high dps. That's the design they wanted for the game and I personally don't like that insane of a lethality.

[@Junebug89]

I think this tier list is really good. I enjoyed watching you three argue over things a bit and get swayed by each other, I think that was a lot more interesting than just having one person make a list and explain it as they go. My only complaints are that I think it would have benefited from having a pro terran there too, and I still maintain that the viper has to be S tier. You need it in every matchup, it's incredibly powerful in every one, it's useful against a large variety of strategies.

[@TheNeomare]

I think they did the tier list thinking heavily about how popular some things are. Instead I would lean more towards how crucial the unit is for the health of the race. For example any unit without which the race falls apart in at least one of the matchups would have to be S tier by default. I think this is true for Viper in ZvT there is no way that matchup is healthy without it. Also I think it is obvious mirror matchups should be excluded from the discussion. There is really no point to make tiers of units thinking about mirror matchup, its just silly. So yea I agree with you. Viper has to be S tier. also the 2/3 rule is BS. If a units is only used in 1 matchup but it is critical for that matchup it should still be considered an S tier even if the other non mirror matchup is F. Maybe they should have just made tiers for separate matchups.

[@AlexanderVRadev]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............................................................... WTF!!! It really shows the difference in skill, when the pro player tier list S and A are chock full of what at any rank below masters would be average units, with some unusable things sprinkled in, while the OP shit is at C tier with some of it all the way at F. Can't blame them for the insane looking tier list though, as pro players are just managing to abuse some units to get value that should not be possible.

[@guest273]

I'm shocked the reaper wasn't rated. You can do all-in's with it.

[@DFGdanger]

How could they disrespect their teammate Byun's signature unit like that!?

[@HearterSG]

it was mainly for the current pro meta i'd say.

[@Lightkie]

THEY HEAL!

[@cornelionjukes5879]

but the unit itself is trash tho. all-in`s are pretty weak. u just need it to scout

[@Junebug89]

@@cornelionjukes5879 And you don't even need it to scout, it's quite useful but unnecessary. I think D is exactly where it belongs.

[@Kaiasky]

One unit in and I'm already laughing, harstem hovers over D tier while the other two are singing the adept's praises. Peak comedy

[@benj1b]

I wish PiG was part of this podcast. This was already extremely entertaining, I feel like PiG would have made it that much better

[@Dirtcurt]

Lol, you guys need a Terran player next time. Dishing on the Cyclone and Battle Cruiser, then A-tiering the Dark Templar?!?!? "Archons are a nice side effect" should be translated as "Archons are a better unit than DTs, and they're B-tier" lol so triggered

[@imzesok]

I don't know how colossi made it above D tier. for the time to build and overall cost each, and the number you need for them to even be useful(which is usually about 5 or so), you might as well have made carriers instead(and they would have performed better overall). sure with a prism you can micro them back, but if they manage to snipe the prism with the colossi in it you kinda just auto-lose with that push, no? especially if terran has any number of vikings, a raven or two and a tank line. idk, to me, like muta and phoenix, it's too niche of a unit for C tier. I feel like those three belong in D. top of D for sure, but still just D. 🤷

[@dajusta87]

I really hate how colosus can be so bad. It either needs a reduction in mineral/gas cost, or at least up the shield/hp

[@NotSoGentleJester]

Great Vid, i bet Marc would be a great guest as well! Terran repres. ^^

[@NeonNoodle22]

I love the casual vibe.

[@123frolick]

You should have made 3 tier lists. Strength of the unit in each matchup. Final tier list is just the average of each one. Then you could milk it for 3 videos.

[@craigbowen9995]

Hahaha really funny joke at the beginning about there being 3 pros.

[@joshliu6729]

I would like to see a tier list of build order

[@Timmsh88]

This is an awesome idea!

[@marcorossi7824]

I agree, maybe one race at the time

[@Mactakun]

Zerg (14) S: 2 A: 3 B: 1 C: 6 D: 1 F: 1 Protoss (17) S: 2 A: 3 B: 7 C: 2 D: 1 F: 2 Terran (15) S: 2 A: 5 B: 1 C: 3 D: 3 F: 1

[@AquaAriaSachou]

Ah yes, the tierlist made by 2 Zerg players says that most Zerg units are not OP while most units of the other races are OP. What a totally unbiased list.

[@N0d4chi]

Confidently saying theres only two mech players only to proceed and name at least 6, is quite funny

[@tokagerkun]

Other games: happy when my units are S tier Starcraft: happy when my units are in F tier

[@kevinforney9054]

"can morph into Hellbats, that's a down side" 10/10, best joke

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

It's mind-boggling to me that the adept is rated so highly with their logic. The unit itself is used for scouting only and for 2-3 all-ins against zerg, nothing else. It being higher rated than a phoenix and a raven or even an immortal is incomprehensible to me :D Adepts are higher than reapers but otherwise identically useless as soon as the game timer hits 7 minutes. They're not even used in lategame glaive runbys, although they could be. Vipers also need to be higher imo, their potential is super good and their cost-effectiveness usually very high because the spells have so much range.

[@UnityAmongstChaos]

Banes are literally one of the best units in the game...a light A Harstem???? WHat!?!??!

[@matth1641]

This tier list is really off with some units. Banelings are easily S, same with Vipers. Ghosts are great but only used in two matchups, how can it be S? More like A. A lot of examples like this lol.

[@cspalfi]

Hamster, My Baby You really should do another one, the meta has changed since the last patch.

[@mingming919]

Obligatory I love Scarlett, she’s one of the few reasons I’m proud to be a Canadian 🎉😊

[@mingming919]

Put her in more of your content I liked and commented twice cus I’m a Scarlett Stan QUEEN OF BLADES!!

[@williamcraig1743]

he*

[@zgvaka819]

@@williamcraig1743 "wow got em haha i'm 12 btw"

[@囧囧]

Harstem: I think the prism is worse than a bailing. Lambo: What? Are you high? Scarlett: lol Me: lmfao

[@growtocycle6992]

It is definitely worse than banes... Look at serrals games...

[@matrixfull]

You should make tier list for every matchup PvP, PvT, PvZ, TvZ, TvT, ZvZ

[@mglegacy012]

Love the video, I think it would be S+ tier if Thermy was here. To me, the medivac belongs right after the stalker. Reaper is D tier, I think you’re undervaluing scouting and you can make 5 of them in TvT

[@zacharyevans2239]

Reapers can outright win the game in TvT with proxy 2 rax which was the justification for some other A and S tier units. Otherwise, I agreed with most things, even if it was slightly biased against Terran ;)

[@ZerglingLover]

42:10 harstem talks like a cars salesman

[@enymus3081]

25:18 Harstems look to the camera says enough about Scarlett claim 😂

[@maxi.the.1st343]

I think this Tierlist shows pretty well how great SC2 is balanced. How many units are useable and viable in different situations, got pros/cons and even some which arent often used, got somehow their place where you want to know them in your arsenal for any situation. Absolutly great :)

[@artcrafter9941]

28:03 scarlett I feel you. Always trying swarmhosts cause theyre fun and cute. But in Platin theyre actually working some time : )

[@drakorez]

Banes not being S is crazy. If you removed banes from the game, zergs would have a 0% win rate vs terran. You recognize that Marines are the best unit, but their biggest counter in the whole game is overlooked. Other than that, I think the list is pretty good. I think Hellbats get a bad rep because people use them incorrectly, not because they are bad, but I can live with that.

[@allmhuran]

Some of the reasoning here was a bit weird. For example in the discussion of the marauder, there was the discussion about how it is good against mech, but that doesn't count because nobody plays mech. But surely the marauder is precisely the reason why nobody plays mech, because it makes bio effective against mech. So the fact that nobody plays mech should be pushing the marauder higher, not lower, in the tier list.

[@nielsunnerup7099]

I'm not convinced marauders are the reason for no mech, but if it were, I would agree with you.

[@yellow4563]

It's fun how much the ranking changes depending on skill level. "Masters league or below, carrier is DOUBLE S tier" KEKW

[@fosterseth]

so much high level discussion that falls out of a tier list, so fun to listen to

[@sc2youtube744]

I love this "can one shot every single unit in the game, except some"

[@eulefranz944]

Isnt lib im PvT super vital? With range and +2 you need to build the terrible tempest and in TvT it pushes the tank lines away. In TvZ the tank performs better but you can mix in a few of them. I think D is a bit low considering PvT, lib ghost is insane

[@EmmaApbelsin]

Very enjoyable video! Usually I dont watch these 1h+ videos, but this time the cast was too good to pass! 5/5 would watch again

[@rupen42]

Harstem following up on his promise of never inviting Terrans to fun things again!

[@eulefranz944]

Prism is obviously S and medivac too.

[@TacSav253]

Normally i skip to the end of tier lists, but i really loved this one. Watched the whole thing

[@whatever8411]

At least i learned something new - the reaper is not a unit :D

[@growtocycle6992]

It's a legend that gets whispered any time Byun is back in vogue. 🤣

[@kkllaauussss1983]

one hour and a half?!?!?! this was one h and a half?!?!?!

[@Lost7one]

if marine is S tier then the medivac is SS tier, the marine needs a tier 3 spellcaster as support to be useful

[@derekhupp6635]

Awesome video! Could anyone point to a good video, or article/blog that goes more into depth on units. When to use them, when to not and why, how to use them etc? Thanks!

[@eduardomissi7804]

I really like videos like these. It's just, we love the game, but it don't have to be only about watching the actual thing though

[@jasperjackson8842]

lambo calling the raven the ghost of tvt is proof harstem needs more terran friends

[@StriKe_jk]

"The Hydra gets used often" doesnt mean its good at all. The ONLY reason it gets used is because ZERG HAS NO OTHER GROUND TO AIR and you have to build it for lurkers. Heck its so bad at its anti air role that most people use queens for that. If they would give zerg any other ground to air ranged unit it will to 99.99% be better than hydra and make hydras never be used outside of lurker production. Its super bad and the ONLY CHOICE available hence why it gets build, not because its good. It should be down at F Tier as it rivals in quality with Hellbats.

[@Simon-nv5zj]

ive played SC2 3 times and I enjoyed this immensely.

[@roarmalf]

Had this pop up on my feed. We need more of these group discussions, hope you guys are able to get together again soon for something like this.

[@Paddythelaad]

If assessing it on a basic of how would the faction do without them. Workers and Queens would be way ahead of the rest. Then the basic units like Marines, Lings, Zealots. The high tier units like Tempests, BC's, Ultras would be at the bottom.

[@mintx1720]

Haven't played sc2 since HotS, just finished LotV campaign and this list is completely mind blowing.

[@Junebug89]

I'm so glad they're putting the immortal where it belongs. I watched someone do a ranking recently, I think maybe it was tasteless, and he put the immortal in S tier. I was just sitting here thinking "It's not 2012 any more". I'd have gone low B probably, but calling the immortal S tier absolutely blew my mind.

[@AbduCola]

It's so wild watching after coming back from a huge SC2 break. I haven't watch in ages, and haven't seen any tournaments post LOTV. The tier list is almost reverse of what people used to play

[@juliustan1494]

We need special here 😂

[@DjInfrared]

Immortals are absolutely an A+ unit. All-in, all-in defense, cheese, cheese defense, excellent in the mid-game, great late game against heavy units and buildings…

[@Taunt61]

they're pretty bad vs zerg. compared to the hots version. hots was S.

[@Timmsh88]

I was thinking about this and it's just because they don't get their shots off. If the sentry would be popular again the immortal might return as well.

[@tigera6]

The only glaring issue is that it is a Robo unit, meaning you have to make either Immortal or Disruptor, and passing mid-game pretty much everyone would make Disruptor over Immortal, other than against Ultra. By itself as a unit, Immortal is needed to break down the opponent defensive point, or creating the anchor point for the army. So I think thats should already put them on the same level with the Adept/Archon, aka the B-tier.

[@lobizonxp]

This is a nightmare for us non english-native. Automatic are far from accurate.

[@housemana]

it's wild watching you just simply not get >why< banes are so highly regarded, from actual Zerg pros. Harstem you got your head up your ass a little bit homie. just saying.

[@mariofox8377]

38:58 "the reason we have lurkers is, so you don't get (..........) Randomly " Guys... What does he say??? I don't speak English, i don't understand his talking.... Pls, someone help me! Thx in advance, cheers!

[@bruceybrucey]

Again, this shows how Zerg race is totally unbalanced and deserves better units or features for the upcoming patches

[@sockpuppermcgee7920]

I was expecting Prism to be highest S. You can dodge seeker missiles. If you're good enough 3 stalkers can kill 8 marauders and never get hit. It's mobile after the upgrade. 0 gas. You can warp in gateway units near it for all your charges. It makes blink stalker even more obnoxious. It enables DT to be useful without the blink. It only delays building the worst unit in the Protoss roster (colossus). Every unit is so much better and can get lots more value with a Prism nearby. The way people play against Prism they treat it like a liberator, never go near the field without critical mass. Keeps every player on their toes even more than medivac drops cuz zealots aren't made of paper.

[@vonk5463]

So "Queen - Roach/Ravager - Ling/Bane - Viper" ..... and when it doesn't work, I'll switch for Protoss.

[@ocoro174]

how about a talk where your discuss how to buff d and f tier units 🥰

[@pupper5580]

I had a hilarious conversation with someone about women in RTS. I had a "friend" (friend in quotes cuz he's really a hater but pretends to be my friend) ask me if it's true that there is no woman in the world who is better than me at RTS. Background: At the time I think I held the #1 rank in Warcraft 2 for a year or something. So I said yes that's true - knowing of the trap I laid. Then he went like "So what about Scarlett?! I got you!". Well, I do agree that Scarlett is better than me at RTS.

[@swansong425]

I am a nobody lol, but I can say mass battlecruiser stomps mass carrier. You just yamato them down one by one and they cant do anything.

[@januszkurahenowski2860]

Why does the liquipedia for Lambo shows years active 2012 - 2022? Did he quit professional competition or something? Edit: Now I see it says the same for Elazer, is it just liquipedia not being updated for some players?

[@kRuWeLLL]

I hate how harstem forces his opinion all the time but I love how they both disagree with him all the time

[@Leonhart_93]

Nah, he set the tone since he was the host but he always agreed with them if they made good points.

[@lasterman94100]

If I didn't know Harstem was a Toss player, I wouldn't doubt it after watching this, the bias is kinda real "Colossus is basically useless so I guess it's high C tier above BC"...