Harvesting, Bud Washing, Drying & Curing Successfully! (Garden Talk #73)

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks to Pigeons420 for coming onto the podcast today! Pigeons420’s channel- bit.ly/2ZEQs3y

[@johnmillis5159]

Highigan says it’s works great for what they do and makes it much faster

[@joeymusacchio9816]

Still laughing at that last one @Pigeons420, good show guys.

[@ericw7519]

Question would u flush in organic super soil (build a soil)?

[@garyheninger1876]

Great information

[@davidmitchell673]

Hhhhhuuu up

[@whiteowl8703]

On the subject of trimming. Sometimes I think it would be good if for a year we could go back to black market sales and all dispensary close for a year. Back in the day when you bought an ounce and weight of 7 grams was all seed with a couple of logs with no bud on it. Plus a gram or to of “shake” and we were god damed happy to get it. Maybe I am finally just to old. Iv been growing my own now for 22 years. Got my first med card in 2000. We truly live in a different day today. Oh and I’m 60 years old. 100% disabled vet. Cannabis is truly a gift of health for me. Thanks for the interview guys. Keep at it.

[@TheRachelabomb]

Thank you for your service 🇺🇸 I second your motion. Decriminalization not legalization. Govt just looking for their cut.

[@historyhunter5215]

I miss the days of regular bud... Good times, good memories, good up... Now, it's plastered to the floor or just nasty...

[@stinkfist4205]

@@historyhunter5215what do you mean by “plastered to the floor or just nasty”?

[@historyhunter5215]

@@stinkfist4205 either the flower is so potent one hit and your sleeping or it just tastes like butt. At least here anyway...

[@stinkfist4205]

@@historyhunter5215 I thought that’s what you meant but I wasn’t sure. I personally like to smoke the best I can get for my money, but I feel you, i got a friend that’s mid 50’s. He just wanted bud like back in the mid 90’s. Some lower grade pot that he can sit back and enjoy the smoke, and not get blasted so quick. It was actually a mission to find what he was looking for. But overall there hasn’t been an issue here since it was legalized, Southern California.

[@Pigeons420]

Thanks for having me on my friend. It’s always a pleasure to be apart of the show. What you do here is valuable and inspirational. Thanks for going the extra mile! 👊🏼

[@runnersluck4390]

Your prospective is priceless. I always learn something and I always laugh when you're on the show! I'll be checking out your channel

[@Pigeons420]

@@runnersluck4390 thank you for the kind words! I’ll see you around!

[@ericw7519]

Thanks Pigeons 420 and Mr. Grow it. You guys are like my Obie one with growing. Your info help me out a lot with my first couple of harvests and gave me motivation when things goes wrong in the garden. Keep it up the good work fellas

[@ajmoreira81]

Pigeons! AJ here. You've come a long way since the days of all chest no face! Great video!

[@christinajones7696]

I’m a beginner and this info is valuable. Thank you both.

[@Ssquanchh]

Bud washing ABSOLUTELY DOES! AFFECT THC CONTENT, TASTE, AND SMOKE PROFILE OF YOUR FLOWER! If your submerging your flower in a bucket filled with acid and then a neutralizer and then you sunk it again to get that off! I did it twice and had to give the flower to my chickens because the flower was very displeasing

[@LonnieLaFlam]

So, I just finished washing and hanging my blue spring cookies, which is my first harvest ever. I recently heard about bud washing and instantly thought, "No way!" Then I researched. I harvested at 70/30% trichomes. Terrified, I was ruining my bud. I pressed on. The buds look amazing, and the smell is banging. I looked through Jewelers loop, and my trichomes are frosty amber and stacked full!! I only found one winged bug and one bastard Calipur. There was a funk floating in that wash bucket. The second bucket turned yellowish with a few things floating around. It's pretty much clean in the 3rd rinse. Each for 30 seconds gently in a circular motion back and forth. But trichomes are definitely fine! The buds are glowing like they had been coated in dirt. Highly recommend washing your bud.

[@gremlin5813]

The funk and yellow water was all the terpenes you washed out of the buds. The terps are water soluble, unless you're harvesting some really dirty outdoor plants, washing the buds is just a bad idea.

[@jimmydabutler9022]

My personal harvesting method (for tent growing): - No washing needed, as stated in the video. - Clip each branch individually, removing the large fan leaves only. Hang them. - Small fan at the bottom of drying room for the first day or so, keep off after that. ( I do this in my VERY humid climate to reduce the chances of mold. If you're in a dry climate ignore this and you may even need a humidifier and out take fans.) - Harvest when the stems are just dried out enough to snap but NOT break. You will know what I'm talking about when you feel it. If it snaps , you're way too dry. (Don't worry they can be saved but there's plenty of KZbin videos on that.) - Finish trim, removing any remaining fan leafs and trimming the sugarleaf and bud to the traditional nugget look. Save your sugarleaf (the thc coated leaves) and make hash! - Stash in jars for 3 weeks minimum. "Burping" (opening the jar) for 10-15 minutes. 2 times a day. For the first week. Also dumping it out and refilling the buds, replacing the bottom ones with the top. Again, for the first week only. Second week, burping once a day for 10 minutes. Shaking the jar. After the second week you only open once a week, really only to check on it. Give it a shake or two of course. After a month it's ready to smoke (in my opinion). But the magic happens between 2-3 months from my experience. Trust me, it's worth the wait. But as the video stated keep an eye on humidity and take appropriate actions IF necessary. Hope this helps. Continue to research and grow 🌱

[@caminochef1132]

"Washing" buds is to kill mold and mildew. They didn't even mention that.

[@backbone93]

​@@caminochef1132 yeah often they dont mention important things i think they get caught up in some other topics and to bring everything up would just ruin the flow of the convo Cant really cover every angle and reason and use about a topic in a single convo lets be real

[@backbone93]

​@@caminochef1132 many people also wash theyr buds outdoors just so every piece of dirt or insects ir whatever gets off But yeah the main reason is to get off mildew

[@ClearWater7.62]

Whats the purpose of paper bag? Do I just go from slightly breaking the stems and straight to the jar?

[@jimmydabutler9022]

@@ClearWater7.62 I don't think I said anything about a bag...I never use those as they dry out the bud too fast and unevenly. I just hang in a separate small grow tent, like a 2x2x4 I think it is. As for your second question, yes. Trim the bud to your liking now and jar it. Follow the burping routine and in a month...quality smoke. Also, make sure to safe your trim (only the small leaves with thc on them, toss the big fan leaves) and make hash with it. Iso hash, bubble hash etc. There are plenty of methods on KZbin. Hope this helps.

[@andrew56129]

Good podcast. I've never heard of washing buds and I'll definitely not ever be doing it but to each their own.

[@chriswrightwright8308]

My house is dusty living dessert and being kinda lazy lol I wash my buds maybe I should dust my house more lol

[@ehrgeiz5649]

Do you wash a vegetable that was grown outside? Yes......................

[@ehrgeiz5649]

@@superkoopatrooper4879 No it does not you over washed if that is the case. also, Why are you washing dried and cured bud? You said you only washed when the bud you bought was harsh... You only smoke dried and cured bud so you are suggesting you washed ready to smoke cannabis......................

[@andrew56129]

@@ehrgeiz5649 rinse off maybe because there is a skin. Washing buds is a joke but if you want to go ahead have fun.

[@ehrgeiz5649]

@@andrew56129 Cannabinoids such as THC and CBD are fat-soluble and hydrophobic, meaning you won't lose them when you bathe your bud in water. Plus, those fruity and floral terpenes are locked up in a sticky resin. As long as you carry out the process mindfully and gently, you'll preserve these key molecules. If you are being an imbecile obviously your product can be ruined, just like if you dry and cure incorrectly.

[@whiteowl8703]

Overall this is one of best interviews Iv watched. What caught my interest the most was the guy willing to walk back previous beliefs. A rare thing in growing cannabis. Full of practical advice.

[@jasonpamer8803]

I bud wash as well. I would like to add what I find helpful. I add a bubble stone to the first wash and first rinse bucket. Keeps the baking soda/lemon mix in suspension and I assume, a more gentle "agitation". I would suggest everyone bud wash once and refer to the bottom of the buckets to determine whether it was/is beneficial. Yall have a good one

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Even on an indoor run?

[@jasonpamer8803]

@@Catch_u_reloadn Yeah man. Ever sweep your floor in grow room or tent and not end up with a pile? Same stuff is on the flower.

[@sprayer97]

what kinda timings you use? website i found claims ~30sec each. might be killin the resin though with that duration

[@judymichaud4081]

I TRIM AND LOVE IT ALL THE WAY. THTS PART OF THE JOY BRO.

[@jeremiahbonelli]

I use a dehumidifier, Humidifier, Portable Ac Unit all in my 4x4. each device kicked on and off whenever necessary to keep the inside of 60° f 60% humidity for 14 to 21 days

[@denisefinck5781]

@@jeremiahbonelli can you please recommend a good humidifier? And if you use hygrometers, can you please make a recommendation for that as well. Thanks in advance! Also I'm a newbie to growing so thanks for supplying us with excellent information!

[@deliasaboya4520]

This Podcast was great! Even though I followed Pigeons420 and hear him talk about this before and I pretty much follow his tip, I can listen to this one over and over again. You forget things so when I am ready to harvest in Oct I will come again to remind me what is best to do.

[@codyhaines6551]

You ALWAYS take into consideration, that some of us might not even have our first harvest under our belt yet. Even after all these videos. It’s greatly appreciated! Along with some of the most helpful info on KZbin man.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks for your positive words! I'm glad these videos are helpful for you 🌱

[@harryodum5598]

Learning all the secrets to growing doesn’t happen overnight. I have been growing for 54 years and I’m still learning something new.

[@harryodum5598]

I have been growing 54 years and it does take time to get it under your belt. You must keep it simple and not Start buying a lot of unnecessary stuff. Good luck in the future

[@daniellucas6831]

@@harryodum5598 hey fellow grower, I've been growing for 98 years still learning something. 🌱

[@Wuuupp5500]

@@daniellucas6831 stfu no way

[@chaseD707]

What I never understood and just found out recently with my harvest is how everyone always taught to wait until the stems snap then it’s dry.. then they said to jar it up with a humidistat and that you want rh in the jar to be 60%… well what I found out is just like pigeons said if you wait for the snap it’s way too dry and crispy so when you put those crispy buds in the jar your humidity is going to be in the 30s somewhere most likely and too dried out

[@ethanletzer3507]

As far as washing buds go, it is an old school technique used in Jamaica and other major producing areas for decades. But if you're that worried about trichome loss, just chill the dirty water down and run it through bubble bags/ice water hash bags. Any trichomes that did get knocked off will get filtered out in the bags and you'll be able to separate them but make sure to keep them cold like ice cold

[@ronevergrow8319]

I have a 2x4 dry tent I set my humidifier at 55 to 65% at 65degrees , it wouldn't matter if my buds(trimmed after 2 weeks) stayed in there for a month or two they still come out cured like I put them in a jar(same as putting them in the jar for a whole month as long as I maintain that environment) seems to be more about the strain terps and pheno more thing anything else ( you can also take a clean wet face cloth with very little water in it/ring it out like seed-germination in paper towel method,, hang it in the corner of your dry tent, this will help you gauge how quick your tent is drying out etc etc, dip/wet the rang in peroxide and lemon water combo when you do this to keep it from molding if you're in those P.M/Moldy areas).. I have four 2x4 tents both are connected to 2, 800cfm 8inch speed controller fans each 2 tents has its own 8inch fan connected via air dryer Y Jacks. on low the 8inch is sucking two tents almost till they collapse😂,,, I had to build a flat table top wood frame for a trellis to hold/support the tents holding them open but the air movement is Super-Major😁, I had to control the humidity by putting the humidifiers in the room verse the tent ( controlling the R.H in the room makes it easier because there's so much air movement in the Tentz ) ,, ✌❤ Everybody, from the 702 Vegas......

[@DOUGCOWANAKAtabsman]

i have a bowl trimmer and im very happy with it , it definatly speeds up trimming and whatever you take off is usable for other things

[@michaeleshbaugh6797]

I agree but definitely will lose some quality in appearance I do agree though its worth the time saved in my opinion

[@Its_Wes]

Great podcast and info! One thing I think is often over looked is the darkness aspect. Seems simple but makes a world of difference, the dry room HAS to be dark!

[@MapleSyrup13]

@@Its_Wes the published research on this topic disagrees with you. Exposure to full sunlight only showed a degradation of 13% THC after 1 year of exposure. 2 weeks will not make any measurable difference.

[@markadams4593]

On the subject of flushing. I saw a report a while back where a group of 4 growers did a test of flushing results on taste and flavor. Each did, if I remember correctly, a week long, 3 day long and no flush on a couple of different strains. Then they did a blind taste test. The 'no flush' rated as good or in some cases better than the flushed plants. On a personal note I have always found that my plants are at their very sweetest and strongest smelling towards the end(2/3 to 3/4 ) of the bud cycle when bloom food is at it's maximum. Thus I quit flushing for potassium and phosphorous completely. I still stop nitrogen about a month before harvest but it's just a stop, not a flush. As for results- people consistently praise the flavor and aroma. Note that this is on a strictly organic outdoor grow- I can't speak to results with chemicals and indoors.

[@giacomomeneguzzi548]

Same thing for me, no flushing, only stop nutrients and get better and richest flavor and taste in outdoor, even in indoor grow

[@trueblu8]

I heard you don't have to flush when using organic nutrients. That's only for people that use chemical nutrients and salts.

[@geraldblount4159]

Indoors your plant aren't in nature they contained in the unit (planter ) it's not buffered by the Earth outside grows how can you flush you just give it water for a couple of days indoors flushing is a lot of water to overtime feeding it just water to rinse out the salt in the medium because I see a difference

[@geraldblount4159]

@@trueblu8 why

[@geraldblount4159]

@@trueblu8 manure will burn your plant right that's organic so I don't know organic needs to be flushed out too you trying to get the plant to use up its Reserves the plant can only take up nitrogen phosphorus and potassium synthetic or organic it breaks it down in the soil the organic matter to become nitrogen and potassium and phosphorus you want to get nitrogen and phosphorus and potassium out of your plant in Organics you got eggshells manure worm castings in your medium

[@midnitesilverrun8631]

Perfect timing literally cut my first grow down a week ago.been keeping it in a mostly dark room at 60°-70° at 50%-60% for a week now.put it in jars today and gonna do the sweat and burp for the next few weeks.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Congrats on your first harvest!!

[@psyience3213]

That first harvest is a great feeling. Good job on doing it.

[@midnitesilverrun8631]

@@psyience3213 thanks it really is a great feeling.the bonus is it actually turned out pretty good.

[@midnitesilverrun8631]

@@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt thanks man I’d be lying if I said these shows hadn’t helped a bit.

[@skycountrymusic]

Best cures I get we dont burp, just get the buds just right and jar it for months. Gets so dank

[@stigmashooter5566]

I did some trimming up in Nor Cal back in 2013-14 and trimmed a farm for about 12 hours a day for 3 days - half hand trim/ half machine trim. I prefer complete hand trimming mainly for aesthetic reasons, but it’s all about the quantity your working with, and how much you really care about the buds. At this point I just rip the flowers apart 😂

[@Mr.FuzzyDingo]

Thanks for emphasizing the super importance of the minimum cure time! 4 weeks + Also, a good alternative to mason jars is to use a good glass fishtank with a lid that seals (there's a few add on's you can do to the lid to automate the process, but I'll save that for another time 😉)

[@ErickEstebanComedy]

It’s incredible how different growmies grow in different climates and regions. Watching your videos I have to remind myself I luckily live in California so my climate will be so much different than each of yours. But despite the climate differences you all always provide so much good information. I’m a week out before my first flip to flower on my first grow and you all definitely helped me get to this point 🙏🏽

[@chuckbailey6835]

You should be almost ready to harvest how's it lookin?

[@ErickEstebanComedy]

@@chuckbailey6835 I made it to HARVEST! I’m hooked. Started my second grow this week with my second tent. Trying out autoflowers from Equilibrium Genetics

[@naterade32]

Just about to harvest my 3rd outdoor crop. Never washed my bud but will definitely do it this year. Also I always took my friends advice to wait for a snappy stem during dry time - but always ended up with bud that was way too dry. Will be ending my dry a little earlier this year. I appreciate all the great info here for novice growers!

[@daniellucas6831]

I cut my plants at 11-13 weeks hang without trimming and get perfect dry/cure

[@dr.dankenstein]

Gotta have balls to talk dry/cure!! That is where 90% of boof is made 💯 😂 🙏 love you guys!!

[@emiliodankstavez8667]

The doc is always right!

[@romanreckless8263]

I would disagree. But, to each their own

[@romanreckless8263]

Dry trim is just where it's at . Period

[@YouTube_can_ESAD]

@@romanreckless8263 Yes to dry trimming for better tasting cannabis!

[@donniekraus1273]

Got that right my brother

[@muskyman26]

“Freedom units”. Canadian ally knows what’s up. I love it!

[@MrTravis789]

I followed pigeons advice to the letter for drying. It was winter, which helps, but it turned out perfect. This was our first successful grow, and it was smoother than anything I ever had

[@bradshaw123]

The first grow guy I felt like I could trust on KZbin salute

[@nymetsfan912]

Every other channel I check out now I use you as a comparison and I still can’t find another that compares to you. You’re all business and these other channels has all that stoner talk that I don’t need. Keep up the good work dude, you’re amazing!

[@eclipse-rx8me]

Bowl trimmers work great if you have arthritis like myself. It also is great for collecting the trim/shake/smalls for pressing or bho extracts. As a seed maker it comes in handy tossing the buds to help release the seeds. Multi uses and benefits and I don't notice loss in quality since it all gets used or smoked 😎

[@ewreck944]

Makes perfect sense what pigeons said about taking little bits of info from one person and some from another.. test them all out and see which works for you. I have about 5 years of nonstop growing (nothing major.. just 1-2 plants at a time) and I've tried methods that 95% of the internet swear by but their methods do not work for me.. I either have to go with what the 5% say or even an unusual mix of 2 methods. It took me about 3 years to realize I dont need a fan inside of my grow tent while drying.. BUT I do keep the exhaust fan running. If I do add any other fans, itll be dry in 3 days. I SOMETIMES run a small fan on low inside for maybe the first 24 hours.. about when you start to see the leaves are starting to get a little cruchy and then Ill cut the fan off and just use the exhaust fan on. Since I began to try this method, I can typically get a dry to last about 7 days. But here my local environment fluctuates alot. I'm currently +70% RH in late flower. She isnt very fat tho (fast flowering strain from Aura Genetix) but since the buds are kinda small still, it may not cause any issues. Plus I do make sure I have planty of air circulation in there (exhaust, intake, 1 clip on fans and a small tower fan in the bottom corner in a 2x2).. anyways.. im just finger fuggin my keyboard here all stoned and whatnot. This was a great episode. I cant thank you 2 enough. Lots of very useful info in this one. Coming close to harvest now, so I like to go around the net and refresh my memory. Took me a good 3 years to realize my drying and curing were not working out. Plants would smell glorious before harvesting and by the time they were 2 weeks i to curing, terps are long gone. Still trying to get this perfected actually. Little hard battling huge temp and RH fluctuations that AC and de/humidifiers can only attempt to correct so much. Anyways.. hope this stoned rant helps someone ✌️💚💨

[@ZZ_Trop]

I wanted to not like pigeons for some reason but after watching a few videos, I really like the dude. He's really really good at this. He comes off very professional but also seems like someone you'd hang out with and do stupid sh*t. Like he could walk straight into a business meeting after blowing up old pumpkins in his backyard and you wouldn't even know.

[@chrisvavrick778]

😂

[@mikeburnett1590]

Lmaoooo.... yeah.

[@josephodell9141]

I love this guy…. Hes simple and straight forward

[@HeadyNUGGETS207]

Wet trimming leaches chlorophyll and removes that much needed moisture for a proper slow dry. It’s not just about the water 💦 but the plant needs to break down the chlorophyll’s properly. Always hang full first and work down to branches as dries. Use small amounts of stress through last 6 weeks of life and it will act as the harvest moon 🌙 and cause trichs to swell and push plants.

[@bobbycanada8478]

How do you recommend to stress?

[@griminc6548]

@@bobbycanada8478 Verbally abuse the plants make them depressed lol

[@violentnewworld]

​@@griminc6548😂😂

[@bigsmoke8486]

I’d much prefer to cause slight stress more towards last 2-3 weeks prior to harvest

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

You can cut up the whole plant into branches and if you control the vpd, it’ll dry the same as the whole plant. Hear me out before commenting lol I think the initial phase at least of the cure is less about “curing” and more about getting the chlorophyll out. It’s just a matter of how many terps you lose. I don’t think it’s a matter of hanging whole plant or not. It’s a matter of controlling vpd in your dry space. Water evaporates at room temp way faster if it’s less humid than more humid. It’s about temp AND humidity, hence VPD. Hemp dryers found that 0.8-1.0 is the magic zone, and between 12-14 days iirc. You’ll lose terps if you have any condition where the vpd is high, regardless of whether you’re at high temp or low temp alone. If you keep your flower in a fridge unsealed, it’s low temp, but you’ll lose all your terps since the humidity is so low. Again, vpd. not temps or humidity alone.

[@kathleenblock9432]

Love u Chris, I've been growing for 9yrs and still excited every time I learn to grow. Ty

[@TheUnholyPosole]

You know what's a good helper for trimming, old school horror movies, they help keep things fun.

[@Mark_Nadams]

Years ago (90's?) Jorge Cervantes, of High Times fame, was an advocate of bud washing and even with the addition of peroxide at 1C / 5 gal when washing buds that showed any signs of bud rot with a 3 minute soak. BTW - The word Pigeons420 was looking for to replace "soap" is surfactant. A wetting agent.

[@stankster7806]

I normally watch these types of video's on the tv so I'm unable to comment but I just had to jump on the ole laptop and tell give you guys some praise for a job well done. Very thorough most excellent video. I'm still learning with 5 or 6 harvests behind me but I know a great video when I see one. I personally use the Grove bags and really like them. Now I have dried to far and brought them back a bit with lemon wedges for a few days while monitoring the humidity with the aid of a hygrometer. Once you go too far no bueno. Again huge kudos to Pigeon and Chris, you guys are a great team.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks for your positive words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video

[@Roguesquadron-gs9ds]

I love those bags too. Make life easy

[@Chris-ck1qw]

I only wash my outdoor harvest. It’s a must. Works great!

[@lunarminx]

I am growing as a house plant and with 3 cats, a wash will be a must...lol

[@HarryHafsak]

Years ago when I first got into it I found a forum that talked about bud washing. I did it on the first ever plant I pulled. The ash was so white and fluffy, so clean.

[@maxwell-style4584]

Doc Bud?

[@jordanslone88]

Much love to the both of you, Hey Chris, When you gonna get Mr.Canuck on here? Thatd be doooooope! Peace

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

He's been invited. May just need 100-200 people like you to comment on his channel telling him to come on lol!

[@romanreckless8263]

He doesn't work with other creators.lol

[@jordanslone88]

@@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt I'm about to go flood his videos lol

[@zxyes3136]

Awesome content guys. I’m currently on my 4th grow. Growing my first photo period. Power Kush 24th day in flower with 46 tops. In a 2x2.

[@romanreckless8263]

Lotta tops

[@romanreckless8263]

Are u scrogged?

[@mikeinwtby]

Those who know and do, "get" the 46 top thing. Growers love

[@yep5689]

Hell yeah buddy good job it don’t matter what you do someone will always try to piss on your parade but ignore them and do you hell that’s a lot of tops and agian good job bro

[@roadrunner7441]

No we all don't get it

[@SuperSetCity]

I went to Ace a year ago and bought a wood moisture meter and now use that to stick in my buds while they’re drying to read the moisture inside the buds it takes all the guests workout I mean if you want to be a dinosaur and snap branches and take gases that’s fine but if you want to make it easier just go out and buy moisture meter and check your buds that way once it hits 10 or 11% you’re ready for the cure

[@derekdillon2970]

What brand mositure merer did you buy? I bought one and it didn't work

[@SuperSetCity]

@@derekdillon2970 I bought mine from Ace hardware it was about $26 and it works great and I haven’t had a problem with it yet

[@Gringostar8826]

I’m still remember when pigeons420 did his videos reverse Wilson style (home improvement). Love that dude. And Chris is fucking cool, I trust everything he says.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

lol "reverse Wilson style".. Cheers!

[@lukenieckar8067]

Best video I've seen so far!! Just harvested my first grow today. Autoflower done outdoors. 1430g, wet obviously, sans stems. Hopefully the dry and cure goes well!!

[@CryptoMoonShot-om3hp]

How many Autos garnered you that many grams? I accidently did something wrong this grow and didn't start mine in solo cups. I started them in biodegradable jiffy pots. The roots were growing through the Jiffy Pots when I put the whole jiffy pot in the final pot. The roots didn't actually make it's way through the jiffy pots probably since Autos are such a fast growing plant. I was wondering why my autos were so much smaller than the year prior. I pulled them out of the pot when harvesting to see why and the roots had a problem growing out of the biodegradable pots. I actually ripped alot of the pots in half before planting but it wasn't enough. I used 7.5 gallon pots and the roots maybe made it half way down the medium and I was pissed. I grew photos at the same time and because they take awhile to grow, the roots have broken through the jiffy pots and now these plants are massive. I learned to never use biodegradable pots to start Auto seedlings because they are fast growers. I should have gotten triple the bud off those Autos if I transplanted the seedlings from solo cups.

[@lukenieckar8067]

@@CryptoMoonShot-om3hp that was my first ever plant/harvest. The next 2 exact same seeds will end up with half or less than half of that. The difference between a wicked summer and grow tent.

[@h_to_the_izz_ozz]

Hello Mr Grow it sir, I'm a first time grower and I just had my first harvest 2 days ago. I just wanted to tell you thank you for the very informative knowledge in your book I tried to follow it down to a t and my Bruce Banner strain looked very healthy. Salute.

[@ezbudz1993]

Great views from Pigeons! Love his details about the curing process! Thank you guys for making me more confident in my growing!

[@rse62965]

I used to hate on the bowl trimmers until I tried one...I turned 2 days into 2 hours with minimal trichome damage. I'm sold!

[@brianloving7807]

Totally agree about drying to long,don't wait until the stems snap. Save those terps and don't overdry!

[@zachrichards2891]

Trim bowl is sweet. I have found if you over spin the buds it just eats em up. I give it about 10 spins clockwise then 10 counter, depends on bud structure so give or take a couple. Then my buds are 80-90% trimmed and i hand finish them. Cuts my trimming time literally 90% or so. Well worth it for me cause those hours could be better used.

[@georgecrinnion2131]

I love my bowl trimmer. It saves so much time and the results are just fine.

[@mikeburnett1590]

What is that?

[@chadscully5136]

So funny. Watching your videos as it's getting time to harvest (first timer) so I'm taking knowledge from everywhere. At my buddies house tonight and he just got a trimming bowl and said it cleaned almost as well but cut the time by 80%. So, obviously he is loving it.

[@johannaburns1806]

I needed this video. It came just in time, because I did outdoor for the first time after 2 years of indoor and I was curious about the bud washing. I bought your book 7 Steps to Grow...it helped with starting out for the first time!!! You have the perfect voice for these videos. Keep it up!!!

[@geraldblount4159]

U have too out side a few years ago outside I didn't do it and I was curing my jars all of a sudden I had spiders coming out

[@geraldblount4159]

You start seeing dried up beetles

[@sweetleaf9668]

Great video. Totally agree. Drying and curing is where it's at.

[@thressielane1425]

hi guys,Newbie here. love you guys and how descriptive and detailed information you guys give this video came out at the right time,I am harvesting my first grow today.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Congrats on your first harvest!!

[@Arcturian1111]

60-70 Degrees. And No light. You'll be fine.

[@bigcrackrock]

So did you screw up your cure?

[@roadrunner7441]

@@Arcturian1111 That's for drying and curing ?

[@roadrunner7441]

@@bigcrackrock I'd like to know how it went myself too

[@problemchild420og6]

Bowl trimers work pretty good, infact I sill have mine but I up graded to the twister 6....It does 4 lb an hour so makes my life easier bud come out great!

[@nastytechniquez9685]

You guys always seem to hit the topics that are relevant to me at that exact time so damn often! Just trimming the last of my first grow now. Thanks fellas

[@MDZ1990]

Thanks Chris for all your help.

[@garyheninger1876]

I have gotten over the manicuring of my plants. I do most of my trimming prior to harvest, but I leave a lot of small sugar leaves just because I want it to be somewhat holistic medicine

[@amartinez8691]

I washed my first harvest and everyone loves it including me it’s so smooth and tasty

[@datrickwilliams3542]

Bud washing for me makes a longer dry time . I can say my humidity and temps probably weren't in the optimal conditions. Took about 7 days when it's normally 3-4. Only washed a couple grows. Growing for 10 years... Great content...

[@comfortablynumb9342]

So if your buds get too dry could you dunk them to get moisture back? Sounds like a bad idea.

[@datrickwilliams3542]

@@comfortablynumb9342 Initially, you would wash the Buds as soon as you cut the plant. I've never cut a plant that had dry buds.. Now if you're asking about anything after the initial chop, I definitely wouldn't suggest dunking the bud to get moisture. But like my guy says, I'm not super scientific, I just know what works for me.

[@aficionadoofthefinestherbs4722]

3 to 4 days is way too quick for good quality drying, you must know that bud

[@datrickwilliams3542]

@@93836 I've definitely tried the "wait til it snaps" technique. Bud super dry, lower potency, lower quality. Personally I dry it out a little before the chop. I may lose a little flavor. I'm still learning, that's why I appreciate this channel...

[@datrickwilliams3542]

@@aficionadoofthefinestherbs4722 3-4 days hang dry, then I put them in the brown paper bags, then in the jar....

[@herbbakerproductions]

I’ve washed my buds several times in the past. For powdery mildew I used hydrogen peroxide and for any time of potential mite issue I would use lemon juice and baking soda. I harvest my branches individually and soak them in the solution for about 2-5 min

[@jrs8735]

I think Mr Canuck has such great harvests because he never has a shirt on . When he flexes at the plants they know he means buisness

[@canucanoe2861]

LOL. I follow Mr Canuck because he shows the whole process instead of just talking about it. I have been following his advice and am almost about to bring in my first harvest ever. All I can say is the kolas are so frosty right now that I'm having a hard time not harvesting too early. I'm still waiting for the trichomes to cloud up.

[@harryodum5598]

I harvested 324 inch original Russian 442 this morning I drove his plants in my greenhouse in my worm casting Box.These Little girls really surprise me. But after harvest in examining the plants you could see microscopic dirt and dust so I filled my 5gal box and gave them a bath. And it was a good thing I did I couldn’t believe all of their microscopic dirt moth that came off of them. I did that three times, but I did not use your first message because I didn’t see it till now. I have one more that I am leaving a few days more. But when I wash it I will try your First washing for sure sure. Thanks for the info. I have been growing Sense 1968 and you can always learn something of value through others. I guess what I’m saying is no matter how long you been growing you can always wear a new trick.

[@terrolpowers6227]

I'm loving the grove bag cure saved me the daily burp

[@jeffloats5930]

Yeah, curious as to why using Grove bags wasn't mentioned at all? So many advantages and a better cure...

[@markseltman]

Great talk! Two comments: 1. In my experience, Boveda packs are best for well dried and cured long term storage. 2. Trimming is a drag if you have too much to trim. Triming a pound of herb can become a divine meditation depending on your mindset. I push my zen button when I begin trimming, listen to some of my favorite music, and feel satisfied and fulfilled by the end of my trimming process. Whether a placebo or not, I believe that loving trimming affects the potentcy of the final product. The other thing I do is grade my trim. I compost the largest fan leaves for next year's soil. The medium size and small leaves are great for making tinctures. I use large quantities ground fine and soaked in Everclear's 190 proof grain alcohol. Thanks for the idea of having a trimming party for larger quantities... a wonderful way of sharing the process and the bounty.

[@Gringostar8826]

Wish more people would like the video when they watch it. It the smallest possible way to say thanks for these badass guys’ time.

[@bennyhill6161]

& don't Skip the Ad-sense.

[@ractorstudios]

@@bennyhill6161 Great idea 🤘

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks so much for your support! It really helps. Cheers!

[@miker5700]

Clone tent I love it. I haven't been watching much of these garden talk videos past few months. Been really busy but the nice thing is this winter when I'm in my grow room alot more ill have lots of fresh content. I'm building a tin shed so will listen while I work. Thanks Chris have a good day and everyone else ✌️ happy growing

[@steadyabmrising1927]

Appreciate the knowledge that is spreading 💚🌱

[@rikkydavidson1762]

Use coloidal silver in jar spray little sterilizes it no mold ect. Mandatory safety ✌️

[@harryodum5598]

It takes me up to three months for my herb to be ready. .. I have a process for drying my girls. I’ve been using this process for about 20 years after years of experimenting. And burping your bottles is very important to me. Slow and low is my way of drying. But I have one throughout the ears you Gotta keep it simple and don’t rush.

[@oldschooled59]

Thanks guys for a lot of good information I've been using an auto burp system with an air pump and a timer That I seen on KZbin I built it myself it works excellent I love it I threw out all my jars

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

That's awesome! I'm glad it works well for you

[@WonkaWillE]

Can you elaborate on your system? How does it work? When rh gets to 65% or so does it auto burp? What kind of container if you threw away jars? An auto burp system sounds scary lol ✌

[@oldschooled59]

@@WonkaWillE I use food grade 5 gallon buckets A commercial airpump with A standard timer Look at auto curing on KZbin

[@oldschooled59]

Make sure your plant is dry before you do this it works awesome

[@WonkaWillE]

@@oldschooled59 right on appreciate it, always looking to check out different techniques ✌

[@PhenoCouncil]

Thanks guys, great stuff. I have noticed a little pressure builds up some times and you can just loosen that rim and it it pops you know it needed burped.

[@danacraig220]

I washed mine with Hydrogen peroxide (1 cup in each bucket, or 3/4 c in the 3 gal buckets) and water using 3 3 gal and 1 5gal bucket because that is what was clean. What a relief. I was so tired of having to put up with hair, dirt, and tiny dead bugs in my awesome buds which are outdoor organic, and we have traffic nearby. The wash came out great. I think baking soda and lemon juice is too difficult and complicated, but could be good if you don't have any HP.

[@allenkuns6552]

I cure in a converted wine refrigerator. It has a circulation fan inside to keep the air moving and a ventilation fan to regulate the humidity. It runs at 62° and 40% humidity. 2 to 3 days and I can jar them up. The jars have a humidity gauge to know when they have the proper amount of moisture left to cure. Getting the surface moisture off quickly will keep bacteria and mold from growing. I did one batch just rinsing with plain water. One batch with peroxide water, 1 tbsp. 35% per gallon. No rinse on the peroxide. The peroxide helped them dry better and also brought out the chlorophyll faster. And kills all the bacteria on the plant. Lemon juice is an acid baking soda is a base, so they cancel each other out. I also do full wet trim.

[@timpage5021]

Absolutely waiting to stem snaps is way too far. In full agreement. I been using a wood moisture meter for a few years. Takes the guess work out.

[@timpage5021]

@@UbiquitousRomp oh yea definitely. It’s just another tool in the box to help dial it in.

[@cheesuskrust7021]

Dude youre blowing my mind

[@Foxyterrier1]

What moisture percentage ,before you jar?

[@timpage5021]

@@Foxyterrier1 10 to 11%

[@gettin_while_growin1512]

My boyyyyy, timing these lessons on point 👊. I'm literal as fugg and sometimes I just don't get exactly what a person is saying.Our growmie pigeon420 gets to the point and explains things as of I am a baby 😆, but I love it lmao. Gratitude Mr. Grow it. Gratitude pigeon420.

[@unitoolzee]

For my most recent dry, I just put a large bud into a sealed jar with a humidity gauge in order to see how dry it really was. This guys point about it being too late when the stems snap is exactly correct, especially in low humidity climates.

[@Arcturian1111]

Interesting, when the stem is dry so are the buds. Makes so much sense. Don't overdry. For me, I dry for 10 days usually, and I have great smoking weed. I did Purple Aliens and Cheese. My dry was perfect outside in a tent in October with a heater and fan in the East Coast. I still have weed left from last year 5 plants, outdoor grow

[@theone031]

10 days and then to the jars?

[@brandonbeattie3899]

Just wanted to tell u guys about grove bags try them out no more burping jars! Much love to you guys love the content stay lifted my friends!!!💚

[@B01]

Boveda packs means you don't need to burp. Plus all plastic is porous, some of them more than others, but ALL are by design (plastic itself). Glass isn't porous at all lol I'll stick to my glass and boveda

[@BroScience710]

So that means it would have to be put in jars after "cured?" To keep from the crumble. Also I think it's good for them to build up their off gases, to then be burped. I'm no scientist though

[@B01]

@@BroScience710 I'm not knocking Grove bags, they work well...I'm just saying from a chemical/compositional standpoint, all plastic is indeed porous and therefore we have to assume there is some leakage using them, as opposed to keeping everything nearly 100% locked inside with glass. You can test it out yourself, take something smelly put it in a bag take the same thing put it inside two bags, you'll notice it takes longer for the smell to seep through the two bags than the one. While the construction and quality of the Grove bags I'm sure are far above that of a standard Ziploc bag, they're still both plastic end of the day That's the real difference between the two, but both methods work great. I would definitely argue however glass jars may have more uses overall however LOL and almost certainly last considerably longer, the boveda packs themselves on the other hand do not last very long unfortunately LOL

[@freedom_born]

@B They’re claimed to be some permeable non electrostatic stuff. I have them and yeah, i use them. BUT, would definitely say jars are far better.

[@B01]

@@freedom_born true yeah, unless it's rubber or glass it's permeable haha all of the people that have the Grove bags that I know, at least half a dozen or more, all really seem to like em... So that's why I can never actually bash them, sorry to hear they weren't too great for you personally though. Seems like we're both sticking with jars haha plenty of companies that make smelly proof bags have claimed that they aren't permeable etc etc yet they all still smell eventually 🤣🤣

[@kevinwhite9937]

Re: mini Hydrometers. Buy them in bulk, when they arrive, note all their differences in humidity from each other. Some are higher, some are lower. write on them permanently, +5 or -3 for example so you have a better idea later on.

[@Badger90]

Excellent timing Chris. Thank you for the content.

[@twalke407]

In most dehumidifiers there is a threaded port that feeds the water collector, place a threaded hose on it and into a large bucket to extend time between dumping.keeps room stable.

[@psyience3213]

“60 degrees freedom units” 😂👍🇺🇸

[@GR3YS0RG4N1CS]

🐑 🏴🚩✊

[@its_b_ya_digg]

PIGEONS!! awesome V2. its great to see how much the different training techniques change over time. the garden and gardener is constantly changing and evolving. im glad p talked about when to trim and start cure. 100% if your judging when to trim and start cure dont use the snap of the branch. im not much of a bud washer... not gonna lie it lightweight scares me. great epi!!

[@youngmillionaire7480]

It’d be cool if you went out to a grow companies building and did a walk around type interview thru their process

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

That's a good idea. Maybe in the future!

[@bankonitbilliards300]

Regaurding cure room...The trick to getting your humidity at 60 is to put your humidifier on a timer and have it run every 15 mins. So if you have one of the cheap timers your just push every other timer button down so your timer gos ON, OFF, ON, OFF and it should stay right around 60 RH

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

Great tip!!!

[@SnappySnapfire]

I don't mind the trim at all I only do 2 plants every 3 months so it's not to bad yet lol

[@ElCapricho-420]

Muy cierto 🤣😃 después de 1 Mes el olor sale de dónde yo vivo en el tercer piso hasta la calle ... Un olor hermosos y Rico 😋😋.... Es lo mejor una buena genética y dejarlo curar en un lugar oscuro y cuidar la humedad .....

[@7munkee]

2011 I had 24 plants in my outdoor grow. I invited 4 or 5 friends over and had a two-day trimming party.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

lol great idea!

[@odaharry]

If you have the space , why not just jar it as is after the dry and trim as you use? I don’t see how that would cause any problems??

[@7munkee]

@@odaharry If I could go back in time 11 years, I would have tried it. Seems to me that i made bubbles out of the trim that year. Dunno was a long time ago.

[@free-lancecapetown44]

Hozit from Cape Town,South Africa. I grow organic outdoors in a greenhouse with shade cloth to prevent insects and heat and find that our conditions are optimal that with Ten plants it’s enough for a year.cutting hole plant is optimal and dry trimming rocks with the brown bag method after two weeks in 60% humidity

[@denwaontheisland3555]

On my Outdoor I use peroxide in a bucket as well. I don't always use the Citric acid/Sodium Bicarbonate wash if using a peroxide wash, but usually do a quick water rinse. Or Water with a touch of Peroxide. The Peroxide wash is to kill All Bugs and to kill Boytritus and other fungi like PM. A couple minutes soak if you have signs of bud rot (Boytritus). Google for strength, ie ratio. (With Outdoor in the PNW, I'm usually in a "Shit, that plant has budrot! Emergency Harvest Mode."

[@cptclown]

this video was so useful for me im a first time grower and im in the process of drying and curing this helped alot

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

37:18 at first when he said “electric trimmer” all I could think was the manscape lawnmower.....lol then I thought about it being called the lawn mower.....which made me realize that damn thing would actually work. 😆 It would actually make short work of taking those leaves right off and saving your hand muscles.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

haha! For the record, that manscape lawnmower isn't as "safe" as they advertise it to be lol

[@WheelgunsOnWheels]

Great episode. It’s so neat to see you two early on in your relationship with each other. Excellent budding bromance.

[@ericdemeo5249]

Chris I used to breed ball pythons and always had to fight to keep the humidity right. One thing that worked great was putting a wet sponge in each tub. I’d imaging if you put a 5gal bucket in your drying room filled with damp sponges you could easily dial in the humidity

[@joemcgraw5529]

Nice tip Eric makes sense especially getting a decent humidifier that will last for the cost is very hard to find cheers man

[@socrates470BCE]

I've been using a bowl trimmer for years, I'd say it takes off a bit more than scissor trimming, roughly 1/2 to 1 oz more per light but i can trim a light's worth in a 10th the time it would take by hand trimming, i would happily pay someone an oz per light to do my trimming, only there are no worries of a bowl trimmer telling ppl what you're doing, so it's a no-brainer for me.

[@OGLOC1574]

“Wait for the stem to snap” is actually pretty damn close to perfect. To check wiggle the small buds and once they snap check bigger ones and then bam throw em in jars. Just dont find out too late. Last grow was kushberry and smells just like blueberry and kush. My drying tent in my basement was 25% humidity 20-21C before adding stuff. here is my drying set up: 6” ac infinity (at 80%) 5x5 gorilla grow tent Clothing rack and hangers Oscillating fan blowing at wall Humidifiers (3 of them) to maintain 65-70% humidity. 2 taotronics adjustable humidity and a cute bear humidifier. Maintained 15c 65-70% in the tent for the whole drying period with that setup. Those humidifiers were key to humidity and low temps! No need for A/C

[@jameshecht3471]

Cool story

[@queenelizabeth4242]

I'm growing outside and will definitely be washing my buds before drying!!!

[@DontPlayVictim33]

❤WHERE IS ORIGINAL GRANDDADDY PURP PLEASE ❤

[@matthewgautier]

YES!❤

[@krustysurfer]

They bred it with super skunk so it's not the same as before..... who knows though there might be somebody out there with an original version that's actually purple and delicious

[@bergstar12]

thanks yall. about to pull down 4 girls, its good to hear a refresher right before doing so. cheers from VA

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Cheers!