Has China Won? Book Chat with Asia Scholar and Author Kishore Mahbubani

[@jkjkjk100]

Hong Konger need to listen to Singapore more often. Similar background, size, history and demographics. No freedom of press yet more successful, richer, cleaner, have better housing, public transport, airline, airport than HK. Long live Lee Kuan Yew and thanks for mentoring so many great thinker like Sir Mahbubani.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

Money is everything. That is your message.

[@jkjkjk100]

Dipak Basu no but Economic prosperity bring up living standard. Look at the problems in US. Inequality is front and foremost. Stagnating wages, inability to afford healthcare, declining life expectancy, or HK complaining about unaffordable housing. Let’s nit be naive, with no economic prosperity it’s difficult to live freely.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

Man does not live on bread alone.

[@jkjkjk100]

Dipak Basu yes you’re right. Singaporean live in a house and decent space, which hong kong doesn’t have. Money is everything in capitalist society like HK. Please.

[@htlow3598]

@Jkjkjk, I was not aware Kishore has been knighted? In any case, only British citizen can be knighted; there are no non British receiving a knighthood as far as I am aware.

[@JamesChan1983]

Dr. Mahbubani has many insightful points. This is a worthwhile video to watch.

[@paulmaking1980]

China will win this geopolitical contest, America started this contest, not China, China has a meritocratic political system, and due to nature of it's political system, China is able to think & plan strategically for the long term, that gives China a big advantage over America's political system, where politicians that wins a presidential election, immediately think on how to win a 2nd term in office, because of that, it doesn't allow for long term planning, but rather short term thinking & policies, and also the US political system has become a plutocracy, where the rich & big business hold sway in the US Congress to detriment of the ordinary Americans, China is set to overtake the US as the no1 economy in the world within 10 years, so with these factors, China will win this geopolitical contest for sure

[@acewynn8454]

China will not be recognizable 5 years from now and not even cause of American intentions but lack of interest in protecting global shipping for free! Global shipping they cannot protect and they import 85% of oil that means if wanted not only America but even japan could subdue China without breaking a sweat within 6 weeks America is now energy independent and losing interest in the Middle East who’s gonna keep Saudi Arabia an Iran from fighting that’s not free Americans hold all the cards no matter what goes on here domestically

[@bluesea421]

Ace Wynn - Ccp has wasted all of China’s money on useless face saving propaganda, everything is about their face, that’s all. Spent on 50 cents army and wumao propagandists online, total waste of money, nothing comes out of it. Also wasting money on stupid things just for showing off and save face, giving money in billions to Maduro and African countries, for nothing, total total waste. The chinese communist party, has infiltrated into Democratic Party, feminists and MSM, it uses antifa/BLM to burn down cities and stir up chaos to weaken USA so that Biden and Kamala (these are the useful idiots of our time) can win and bring down USA. Once wolf warriors are now sheep pretending to be weak and using the victim card, manipulating others, like teenage girls.

[@acewynn8454]

Blue Sea a lotve truth but Biden and Harris I’m confident if they win while it may be in a nicer tone the facts still remain not only for China but the world look at German news DW and how worried they are about the future I don’t want Biden and Harris cause I love my 2nd amendment and Harris is too close to Silicon Valley Amazon to me is the biggest threat to the American dream anyways

[@张小格-x5s]

Bule Sea Exactly. Just do nothing and wait. We will just collapse like a miracle.

[@Neuvari]

@@bluesea421 haha please, let trump win, i will be very happy for you people, this is for the best, MORE TRUMP PLEASE

[@royk7712]

Can you please list the countries China invaded? None. American intervention since WWII : 1949-1960s China 1949-1953 Albania 1950s East Germany 1953 Iran 1954 Guatemala 1950s Costa Rica 1956-7 Syria 1957 Egypt 1957-8 Indonesia 1953-64 British Guiana 1963 Iraq 1945-73 North Vietnam 1955-70 Cambodia 1958 Laos 1959 Cuba 1960 Ecuador, Congo 1964 Bolivia 1965 France 1962-64 Brazil 1963 Dominican Republic 1965 Indonesia 1966 Ghana 1964-73 Chile 1967 Greece 1970-71 Costa Rica 1971 Bolivia 1973-75 Australia 1975 Angola 1974-76 Portugal 1976-80 Jamaica 1979-81 Seychelles 1981-82 Chad 1983 Grenada 1982-84 Yemen, Suriname 1987 Fiji 1980s Libya 1981-90 Nicaragua 1989 Panama 1990 Bulgaria 1991 Albania, Iraq 1980s Afghanistan 1993 Somalia 1999-2000 Yugoslavia 2000 Ecuador 2001 Afghanistan 2002 Venezuela 2003 Iraq 2004 Haiti 2007 Somalia 2009 Honduras 2011 Libya 2012 Syria 2014 Ukraine if you want to intervene china, you better prepare your silo and nuke

[@allowedme]

A list is extremely short comparing to the list committed by the US.

[@fsteh787]

@darkprince Then you must an idiot to have said so, Tibet is art of China, Vietnamese wars and the rest, kindly read from James Bradley’s Chinese mirage to understand why China went into wars. For India, since 1975, no single shot was fired by both countries until recently. And the worst part is you can’t even provide Years when the country was invaded and etc. Go back and read your history by US historians before uttering. For the past 20 years no countries were invaded by China, but the last year before Obama left the office, he instructed to dropped 26000 bombs on Syria. Go check the fact, don’t be hypocritical. How many innocent citizens of the middle eastern countries have died owing to America’s illegal aggression?

[@fsteh787]

@Adam LB You are real issue to this issue when you don’t have idea what happens to SCS. US isn’t part of SCS but US isnt having a share or isn’t proximate in SCS, that’s hypocritical. malaysia, Vietnam, Philippines reclaimed islands in SCS, and many years later China followed, when US objected, President Xi proposed an offer to Obama to demilitarize SCS, yet Obama didn’t take the offer but instead sent the military troops to SCS, and so China then followed by sending the troops. Anything wrong?

[@hjw2405]

@darkprince you must be practising Falun Gong?

[@liweieva]

@@hjw2405 hahahahahaha the best reply!! hahaha make me laugh so hard!

[@raycomeau6866]

Good presentation by a knowledgable speaker, who had to exercise his diplomacy. Too bad the moderator is too ignorant of China.

[@Oldt-n4l]

Kishore Mahbubani’s wise quote: “American plutocracy vs Chinese meritocracy”. Then everything that US is provoking and accusing China without evidence becomes clear

[@johnlay3040]

When this book was written, nobody in the world would have guessed that the US would resort itself to a military solution to keep its No.1 position. I think Kishore might need to write an Appendix to his book in the next edition. People will be very interested to read his scenario on this.

[@cam35mm]

Wait a second. Wasn't the pivot to the pacific that happen first before the island build up? LOL

[@scyl3861]

I have a question: What does US have to do with SOUTH CHINA SEA?

[@hjw2405]

US thought it owns the whole earth.

[@privateconfidential7056]

Souh East Asia countries know China have a huge market of purchasing power but on the other hand China have the strongest military compare to South East Asia countries , China to bully them is very easy. SEA countries wants USA to be there so that China bully them is limited around when USA is here . that is why no South Ease Asia countries complaint when USA navy sail around SCS only China complaint loudly.

[@AyY846]

I heard a lot of talks from KM. I’m constantly impressed by his knowledge and insights. In this talk, I’m particularly impressed by his pragmatic view on the HK matters and Beijing’s trade off between the wills of 1.4bn of ppl and 7m in HK.

[@allanbrammer8275]

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[@greatasia606]

Mr Kishore is a Singaporean. And Singapore is still being ruled by anglophiles, so he has to use some words of the West on China. He has to choose his words carefully in Singapore, that is how you find space to survive in Singapore.

[@choegyal100]

Nelson Mandela said that "One of the mistake which polictal analysts make is to think that Their enemies should be Our enemies".

[@dietrichvonbern]

But China treats everyone as an enemy.

[@choegyal100]

Waytofall One of the oldest geopolitics logic is enemy of enemy is my friend, Enemy of humanity is global warming, pandemic, poverty and terrorism. If we want our planet save and prosperity then we should work together as oneness of humanity. We should look all angles and listen every 192 nations narrative.

[@bluesea421]

Waytofall - that is a suicidal dumb move

[@Kuasarakyat2]

China: we built modern Shopping Complex US: we built Military Industrial Complex

[@leonluo4061]

The Hong Kong people are Chinese. Culture is Chinese culture. What is this lady asking. Shows her ignorance.

[@Shambu598]

Both Hong Kong & Taiwan are Chinese people, but they have escaped the trap of the CCP, lets help them to stay that way, and expose the evil the CCP is

[@XHSLS]

Singapore has 90% Chinese. So?

[@leonluo4061]

@@XHSLS no matter where the Chinese live around the world, they will keep their Chinese culture from 9ne generation to the next.

[@samliew6610]

Very ignorant

[@kewang5208]

@@XHSLS so it means Chinese culture is an integral element in the social fabric of Singapore? Obvious, no?

[@ys29229]

The interviewer was shocked, stunned and speechless to hear China will seek reparations from ex-colonist in 2042 on the occasion 200th anniversary of HK cessation.

[@richardmayger2716]

Any nation entrying in a military alliance with the USA would be well to look at Georgia to see what it is worth.

[@pengliu2087]

I "like" how most of the questions were about how China would " lose / get beaten ", very revealing, but not surprising from HK Club.

[@greatasia606]

No worries, free media, democracy and partisan politics will keep the Indians very busy for decades to come.

[@Mr.Lin2049]

Brilliant talk, as always !

[@hikarikun7855]

Kishore , like your wisdom.

[@sweetieip]

Professor Mahbabani, perhaps you shall conduct another course : The Arts of Answering biaised questions

[@summerli2010]

yes he is really good at that.

[@harisanagaram4131]

Good analysis. In my opinion, China operates more like a corporation/business house focusing on growth, increasing market share and prosperity. China is also very strategic and has long-term plans in place and is executing them flawlessly. Chinese leaders are open to suggestions and are willing to listen and rectify their mistakes. It would immensely help China if they adhere to international trade agreements and patent laws, not ignore human development and put a strong emphasis on ethics. China will work with any one and any country as long as their economic interests are not jeopardized.

[@spiritedtruth3490]

Another running dog of the CCP! Hahahahaha China will work with anyone? Which planet did you just landed from? Hahahahaha

[@harisanagaram4131]

@@spiritedtruth3490 Very close to China

[@spiritedtruth3490]

@@harisanagaram4131 China operates like a Triad big brother! No rule of law n will continue to do so for as long as they are permitted by spineless running dogs politicians that peddle this kind of nonsense by Dr M!

[@dominiccordova8347]

Kishore is ALWAYS channeling Victor Gao.

[@thinkingaloud5379]

Dominic-What's wrong with Kishore having similar views llike Victor Gao?We all have our views.

[@thinkingaloud5379]

@Adam LB It is easy to accuse China for stealing technology but where is the proof?Huawei is constantly accused of being a security threat but western intelligence has never been able to prove it despite scrubbing through all its gears for years.The US stole rocket technology from Germany and submarine ballistic missiles from Japan after the War.A casual check at the court registry in the US will show many cases of companies accusing each other of stealing intellectual property.Edward Snowden's book reveals extensive spying by the US of foreign countries as well as its own people.Who can forget the uproar over the bugging of the hand phone of Angela Merkel by the US to eavesdrop on her conversations despite the fact that Germany is a close ally?China's hands are not clean but neither is the West's.Lets not think one is holier than the other if you want to be fair and objective .

[@fsteh787]

@Adam LB When US was still very small during WW2, US stole almost all its technology from the mighty German. 2/ Don’t peddle nonsense if you are ignorant with patents rights and technology, you may read book written Dr Yukon Huang of Princeton University on the economic perspective of both US and China. Don’t peddle ignorant comments here, you are a laughing stock to us.

[@apubanerjee2037]

What a intellectual discussion!!

not just the china relationship but also the Iran nuclear deal so that it cannot be reversed.

[@flyerzy]

no one knows when and where the covid started.

[@spiritedtruth3490]

Hahahahaha..another running dog of the CCP!

[@dunzhen]

facts. spanish flu started in America, we blame spain. H1N1(swine flu) as well, but the world is all "god bless". You can see how important soft power and having a vice grip on world narratives are so beneficial for world image. If America had a poor Public Relations image they'd be hated everywhere

[@jennifer-oc6io]

Don’t go against money, coorporate with everyone

[@eastpaw]

Poor woman. She's trying so hard to make Mahbubani agree that China's the bad guy and he just blithely ignores all her insinuations and sets the record straight.

[@skazka3789]

They were legit not on the same level lol

[@eastpaw]

Her microphone makes it look like she's being censored.

[@MsOpineminded]

Singapore...Press Freedom? LOL

[@cocoyama7298]

once those American mainstream medias move to Singapore, there will be the end of peace in Singapore. Don't forget, a lot of them are paid by CIAs and a lot of instigate hatred among people.

[@profpmartin]

Not good camera work poor woman looks as if she has a large mustache. The director should keep the picture on the very important speaker . He makes great points.

[@JaraBond007]

The title "How much did China lose?" is more applicable.

[@bluesea421]

German measles, Spanish flu, Middle East respiratory syndrome, Marburg virus disease, Zika fever, West Nile virus, Ebola, Lime disease, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, all these above are ok for everyone, because the world is mature, and accepts facts of life, and accepts reality, to improve and solve the issue at hand, instead of whining like a child, but the China virus is not ok apparently, because china is a glass heart sensitive snowflake lol.

[@keepcalmcarryon9097]

I have a lot of time for Kishore, for he speaks based on facts without the biaiseness, unlike one sees from the ususal so called China Experts but in truth China bashers. However I do disgaree with him on one topic, which is why Asia needs US to be there? Yes she does need US and others for trade but not for resolution of Asian matters. If Asian countries are what Kishore claims them to be, aspired to be civilised, top, able to resolve differences without resorting to violence and with pride, then all Asian countries or large majority shoild be mature enough to sort themsslves out, yes it will be painful, time consuming etc... otherwise it is no different to a bunch of kids trying to convince others that they are matured and exprienced adults, however would run to a true adult for help if there is a disagreement within the group. In summary, it is not an Asian century until the major of countries wake up and say no.more foreign interference in this region and shall resolve the differences internally no matter what.

[@madmanjshum]

FCC short for Funded by CIA Club.

[@lv9657]

Well said Prof Kishore Mahbubani

[@joydivision1173]

Jesus ...Green Jacket Lady simply doesn’t get it. Every question posed accuses China “bad” on everything 😂

[@willng247]

China will never under estimate any country.

[@vincenthiew3048]

south china sea safety? the shipments thru these area are 90% related to China. Do you think China would like to make a mess of these waterways? and there is none.of.the american's business in this area. if less.than 10% presumably ia related to AMERICA is important, what is 90% of china

[@hjw2405]

No wonder the other website discussing this book has to turn off comments. Most comments here are not based on facts but brainwashed fantasy.

[@kshen7485]

This arrogant black professor needs to be educated by Kishore.

[@cocoyama7298]

hello

[@clipwat1511]

Hong kong has one culture: Be slaves and built railroads for us.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

Prof Mehboobani admit your mistake. China was defeated. It is the most hated country now because of its own faults and own actions. I do not know how much money China gives him every month.

[@DipakBose-bq1vv]

China must be isolated . It is a terrible country with deadly germs and virus and with disgusting eating habits.

[@bluesea421]

In North Korea, when you visit, you will see over 100,000 North Koreans in and out of the MTR subway, even busier than any Friday in 2019 central in HK, all North Koreans in designer suits and brief cases acting like they are going to work, then at lunch time at a 5 star hotel when you dine, you will see many North Koreans there having lunch, full table of food and different bottles of expensive wine, then the tour guide will take you to a hospital, with best German very very expensive medical equipment, and one lady there in the first class room (which looks even better than your hotel room), (where she praises her beloved Kim Jong Un, for inventing this medical equipment and building it with his bare hands this morning, which cured her super rare cancer, in 24 seconds) and she will be speaking in fluent Cantonese with you, telling you she is about to run a marathon that afternoon, as she feels great now lol. Obviously it’s all lies and all staged. If North Korea is Coke, The China is Coke light.

[@TheAlbert18361]

Blue Sea pls hide ur stupidness....

[@bluesea421]

Albert Lim - Ccp has wasted all of China’s money on useless face saving propaganda, everything is about their face, that’s all. Spent on 50 cents army and wumao propagandists online, total waste of money, nothing comes out of it. Also wasting money on stupid things just for showing off and save face, giving money in billions to Maduro and African countries, for nothing, total total waste. The chinese communist party, has infiltrated into Democratic Party, feminists and MSM, it uses antifa/BLM to burn down cities and stir up chaos to weaken USA so that Biden and Kamala (these are the useful idiots of our time) can win and bring down USA. Once wolf warriors are now sheep pretending to be weak and using the victim card, manipulating others, like teenage girls.

[@TheAlbert18361]

@@bluesea421 dude, stop showing ur idiocy.... Just do urself a favour...

[@bluesea421]

Albert Lim - Ccp means Total 100% lies all lies and lies that’s all, there are 1.1 billion people in China who make less than $140 a month, that is super poor not super power, I tip $140 to waiters when I have a meal with clients at restaurants at times. Only the top ccp government officials and their cronies can gather money through all kinds of corruption then act like they are giving to the poor but most of the taxes end up in Swiss banks and overseas, not ONE YUAN in chinese belongs to the citizens, it all belongs to the government. All news from China and their gdp numbers and Wuhan virus infected numbers or anything, you just need to give them 50% discount, as whatever they say, is never the real figures, always fake. Always!

[@TheAlbert18361]

@@bluesea421 keep showing ur idiocy... Don't stop dude...

[@dennisconroy3459]

What a load of side show down the of scew road rubbish