Has the off-field drama overshadowed the fact the Browns are 1-6 & maybe the worst team in the NFL?

[@manulectric]

The off field drama is what has caused the Browns to be bad. This all started with the Watson trade and the toxicity it brought. Virtually every press conference has to bring up the sexual assault questions. That deserves no excuse and coupled with the guaranteed money and draft capital that endorsed this it has shadowed the Browns since. I feel bad for the players who were put in a very tough situation but this is the root cause of their woes. Stop making excuses for how bad this off the field situation poisoned this team.

[@anti-validation]

I was called a delusional hater for posting this during the off-season: Elite Browns defense? QBs who struggled against the 2023 Browns defense: one legged Burrow, Pickett, Tannehill, Pickett, Fields, Cardinals Backup, Texans Backup, Jets Backup QBs who did good (24+ points) against the 2023 Browns defense: Minshew, Geno Smith, Lamar, Lamar, Russ, Stafford, Injured Trevor Lawrence Purdy missed a walk off field goal on the road: not good, not embarrassing. Defense sat out week 18. All the QBs who struggled against the Browns are backups or don't have a job this year. 2023 Browns were last place in red zone defense. 75% TD conversion rate? Absolutely pathetic. Stats is stats. Blame the guy who invented numbers. Would you rather post stats against BACKUP QUARTERBACKS then acknowledge that Gardner effing Minshew threw up 40, then lost a shootout for a playoff spot to CJ Stroud, who embarrassed the Browns in the playoffs with 45?

[@trenttuqiri]

I was in 8th grade when the Browns beat the Colts for the championship. Yeah, 1964. A few times since I have seen that same character displayed. What is presented through this ownership is a stain on all that was good before.

[@user-jpwiremans1575]

Whats sader is the Indians last won it all in the 1940's.

[@anthonypa8045]

Ive never thought of it like that but maybe its a good thing that deshaun has all the off the field baggage, because it does kind of take away some of the heat off his on the field performance. People in the media definitely aknowledge that deshaun is statistically the worst qb, but they dont really talk about it enough because of all his other problems.

[@controversialcardchannel]

Naaaaawwww, ya'll was blaming Watson for ALL the losses. KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY when ya'll still losing!!

[@dc7150]

Our defense is mid. Or offense is trash

[@anti-validation]

Josh Allen led the league in interceptions while Dorsey was his OC. Josh Allen hasn't thrown an interception since Dorsey was fired. Deshaun is having the most historically worst statistical season in the history of the NFL with Dorsey.

[@anthonypa8045]

His stats are historically bad 😂 he posted a single digit QBR twice in 6 full games lmao. Thank God watson is done.

[@anti-validation]

@@anthonypa8045 His only game with a QBR higher than spiking the ball every play (39.6) was against Cincinnati. How the hell do you get an 8? Twice? 🤣🤣🤣

[@catsanddogsplaytime2914]

I am so happy to have discovered this show! I just randomly wondered what happened to Dustin Fox and did a search and saw this, and found Adam the Bull is here too! I had assumed he moved on to a radio show in another city. Love hearing you guys again!!

[@randyschlupp4405]

I believe Myles would look better play better in a different system on a different team

[@JD-di7qq]

Stefanski regularly makes decisions that simply fail football 101. Everyone sees it , yells about it as it happens, and then some weird hypnosis shit happens where no one talks about the head coach's horrific decision making once the final whistle blows.

[@traci635]

Watson will go down in history as the worst QB in Browns history, thank you to Jimmy Haslam for continuing to meddled into the coaches decisions on the QB position. We had Baker Mayfield!!! Now we can watch him lead Tampa Bay to the playoffs, while we via for a top draft pick.....thank you Jimmy....

[@anthonypa8045]

Agree 100%

[@James-e3m4x]

Well they kinda got a pass because we are so busy looking at everything going on and didn’t realize how bad we really are.

[@jeffxmcmeans419]

And once again, Bull brings up Baker Mayfield’s name again for no reason

[@dc7150]

Bull is irritating. The bum keeps cutting is people when they talk or ask questions. He's correcting people when there's no need too. 🤦‍♂️🤡

[@ericrplume8018]

Everyone outside of Cle picked them last. It was delusional locals that disagreed. If Chubb was 100% healthy all offseason you could've talked yourself into being a playoff team with Watson rebounding, Cooper playing well and acquiring more help at the deadline. Defense was overrated playing lots of bad QB's last year and getting Purdy without his avengers etc

[@versewonderstrikes5353]

🎯Last year was fools gold, they won a lot of lucky games and got a lot of brakes. There’s no speed or explosive players other than Ward and Garrett. This team is slow.

[@James-e3m4x]

Every thing Tyrus said from my time watching football is the sign of a bad team overall talent wise.

[@Bailark]

No, the Browns have not gotten a pass. The Browns get called the worst team in football every year. Every year. Every. Year. Browns fans always defend the Browns because the hype is usually just ridiculous shade. It just so happens that this year (24) the Browns played down to the hype. The Browns achieved pure incompetence. They always get called that. Now they just landed there.

[@traci635]

What are you even talking about? We made the playoffs last year with 4 QB's under center. If Jimmy Haslam would stay out of the QB decisions.....

[@Bailark]

@@traci635 How does that conflict with what I said? Ahhh, now I think I see what you missed. I said..."they get called..." I did not say that they WERE. I said "they get called..." Does that help?