Has the PS5 Pro Changed Everything?

[@jamiecrutchley3550]

I just don’t understand what the incentive is to buy it. By the time you’ve paid for the console, disk drive, stand and a years worth of PSN your at almost a grand. You could build a brilliant PC for that kind of money.

[@gp63]

Yep. The irony is the machine is intended to bridge the base console with PC performance but the price is making people consider going to PC anyway 😂

[@jamiecrutchley3550]

@@gp63 Exactly! I’m sure the Pro will outperform a £700 PC but it would be close and by the time you factor in the extra cost of the disc drive etc you could definitely get a more powerful PC.

[@junkdnareviews2515]

The upgrades are going to be amazing. GPU upgrade with Ai upscaling allows 4k60fps. You don’t need the stand and physical media is dying out.

[@jamiecrutchley3550]

@@junkdnareviews2515No doubt it is a great bit of kit, but you can get a 4060 ti build for similar money and that has the benefit of DLSS. My only gripe with the PS5 is the justification around the cost.

[@RandomMotoThings]

@@jamiecrutchley3550it will perform better than a 4060. There’s already comparisons to the 4070 online and it looks identical in their examples.

[@christrubl5014]

I am not surprised Sony is pushing the envelope when it comes to the pricing of their console. During the pandemic at least here in the US, scalpers were buying up all the PS5’s and then selling them online and on facebook market place for between $800-1200. You can bet that Sony was paying attention to that and seeing what people were willing to spend.

[@128kbpodcast]

I'm going to pin this comment. I honestly hadn't considered this point, but you are scarily close to something here.

[@Venison_0904]

I genuinely feel like Sony just casually ushered in the end of console gaming. Based on what this new model can apparently do, they basically gave us the PS4 Pro Pro back in 2020, followed by the PS4 Pro Pro Slim. This "PS5 Pro" is just the PS5 😂 They've lied to us this whole generation. No wonder they're still supporting PS4 games 🤣 Just disrespectful tactics. Worried about what this could mean for the PS6 now. I see myself just owning the Switch 2 and a Steam Deck or similar in the future 👌🏻

[@128kbpodcast]

Honestly for the first time since the Ps1 I think I may be leaving PlayStation...

[@Venison_0904]

@@128kbpodcast Same 😭😭

[@quintingreyling2571]

I just went onto a local PC Retailer site here in South Africa and for interest sake picked a bunch of parts for an upper mid tier PC that would mop the floor with the PS5 Pro (RX7900 GRE, Ryzen 5 7600, 800W Coller Master PSU, MSI MOBO, Kingston Fury Beast RAM, MSI case and MSI liquid cooler). It came down to R22,000 incl tax or £950. Just doesnt make any sense...

[@128kbpodcast]

whoa!! yeah that's exactly what we thought and what andy showed me too. It just doesn't make sense!!

[@joeschmoe5009]

So the xbox youre thinking of that came with an elite controller, was the vcr style base xbox one. It was called the elite console. It had the hybrid hard disc drive instead of mechanical, and had a larger sized drive, 1tb instead of the base's 500gb. But was never a pro type model as no graphics/gameplay changes were made, just hard drive and it had the elite controller included. That console actually released a week before the elite controller was released by itself, so if you wanted first use of the controller you had to buy the console. I worked at best buy so of course i preordered the console and got the controller, only to list the controller by itself online and immediately sold the controller for $200. Then later the one s released which was 1440p instead of the base xbox ones 1080p, then the one x later released for 4k gaming.

[@128kbpodcast]

YESSS!! that was it, well remembered dude!

[@joeschmoe5009]

@@128kbpodcast im not an expert per se, but i have owned every iteration of xbox since the very beginning. Still own my og xbox, 5 360's, and 2 xbox one x's (project scorpio edition and gears 5 edition). So im not an expert, just a connoisseur from the beginning, although have not owned any series consoles because its all on pc now and pc master race!

[@josephmitchell266]

I can't get my head around anyone preferring PS to Xbox these days due to cost alone. The hardware is more, the subscription is more, no work arounds exist for cheaper VPN purchases and they try to lock you into their own little world at every opportunity. The PS does have some great exclusives but as you've said previously PS5 exclusives are lacking... I bought a PS5 pretty much for Spiderman 2 alone but damn do I regret that decision. My PS Plus has now expired and I just have f2p games installed because I can't even play multiplayer without a subscription, all consoles need to remove this paid for online play thing it's total rubbish.

[@TehSmithy]

The PS5 is here to stay even in the PS6 they are going with AMD purely for backwards compatible because its thousands of games there for the consoles

[@128kbpodcast]

yeah I think that's fair. It'll co-exist with the PS6 and I wouldn't be shocked if it was for the entire generation (like apple with the iPhone models)

[@TehSmithy]

@@128kbpodcastyeah 100 agree. With the new switch 2 coming out next year that will probably be a closer speck to the ps4/xbox1 than the xbox series x/ps5 so i think naturally your going to get more ps4 style games in terms of how they look and how they play. A lot of big 3rd party devs and especially Sony themselves should be just focusing on the Ps5 though but small indie devs will continue to push ps4 games out for sometime. You also have to look at the ps3 how old that is yet Sony still keeps that online so the ps4 is going nowhere for a while 😅

[@alexmitchell5339]

I think a big reason console players might resist PC gaming is because they simply don't want to sit at a desk with a 30 inch monitor. They'd much rather relax on their comfy sofa in front of a 60 inch TV surely?

[@128kbpodcast]

yeah that's absolutley true. You could quite easily set up a PC to your tv. But I hear you, very few would do that. And that's where consoles always won, the ease of use and low bar of entry. Where PS have changed that is setting the bar of entry so high.

[@gp63]

Hey guys, a podcast lacking in popular demand talking about a $700 console that also lacks popular demand 😅 Being serious, you're spot on with why Sony is gouging UK/Europe users: the Xbox is not enough of a presence in those areas so they are effectively taking the piss. Yes, Nintendo is there and there is competition as far as time and money, but in the higher end console space its Xbox. And they put no market pressure on Sony outside the US. Its not good for consumers.

[@128kbpodcast]

lack of public demand, featuring a highly price under-demanded console... this is meta low deamnd ;)

[@joeschmoe5009]

The ps5 pro, you guys forget console playing esports is big, to me this is what the console should be aimed at, thats the only people who will buy it, or uninformed parents. playstation, drop the 8k bs, call it the fastest esports console

[@128kbpodcast]

I'd get on board with that. in fact I'd get on board with better frame rates, 'fastest yet' but the 8K thing... that's annoys me everytime.

[@emanuela.dedektive6155]

Will that Roger Alley X set up even work ? The eGPU being nvidia and the handheld being AMD means you have to uninstall and reinstall the drivers for the graphics cards every dock and undock. I think your only option is AMD GPU in a eGPU set up but I have not looked into it. I also think its insane the effort your trying to make the the Roger Alley be better than what it already is and does. Hope you come back to playstation.

[@thescousecleaner]

So yeah, the PS5 pro with a disc drive and stand costs almost as much as a Series X and PS5 lol

[@128kbpodcast]

hahaha so true!!

[@thescousecleaner]

@128kbpodcast And again, the rumours are it won't even come with Dolby Vision lol.

[@joeschmoe5009]

Or as much as a pc that can almost do native 8k 😂

[@proggz39]

Inflation’s gone up 21.2% since the ps5 was released. The euro and yen continue to lose value over the dollar. You still have to spend quite a bit more on a pc to match ps5 or ps5 pro’s performance. High tech isn’t getting any cheaper

[@128kbpodcast]

Fair points.

[@TheSpigottedYahtzee]

You want egregious price differences, try $1800 NZD vs $800 USD/GBP etc for the Ally X...and I still bought one 😑

[@128kbpodcast]

oh you used my favourite word!! I always forget how screwed you guys in NZ get done with pricing. 1800 NZD is about £845 but madly it's also $1115 USD!! what's the PS5 Pro price there? It seems like the only place getting a fair offer is the US.

[@TheSpigottedYahtzee]

@@128kbpodcast JB Hi-Fi have it on pre-order for $1379 NZD, but that's the only pricing I'm seeing at the moment

[@zomg346]

In eu its closer to 1000 bucks 😂😂 and fir that momey you can add 150 more and just get 4060 laptop 😂😂

[@nazarethproductions7095]

You can even find it on sale for 799

[@128kbpodcast]

insanity isn't it