HasanAbi Reacts to The Story of Jennifer & Sarah Hart

[@ProletariatPrince]

People will literally go to any length to ignore child abuse and its disgusting.

[@ProletariatPrince]

@Cools DOODS Get therapy.

[@Eveoriginalsinner]

@@ProletariatPrince o what'd that coward say

[@ProletariatPrince]

@Isaiah Byrd I forget but something about it mustve told me they needed therapy.

[@adMOnished1]

And then they'll villainize poc men and call us evil demons... Fuck America.

[@shelleycline3542]

Nobody cares about children in any country as far as I can see.

[@lowktrk5559]

that first adoption kid was lucky as hell to be left at therapy

[@nattyfeatureseverything6179]

i dont know man the people the agency allows adopt kids .... she could have ended up with someone else worse or just as bad not to spoil anyones hope here....

[@GamingGamer1000]

@@nattyfeatureseverything6179 it’s extremely unlikely they’ll end up somewhere worse than here. I knew a few kids growing up that were adopted around age 10-11 and they all had much better lives than where they grew up. They went from being fed drugs and abused to genuinely happy and part of a family. Please don’t think all cases of adoption will turn out bad, it’s a saving grace for many

[@koromoro6682]

@@nattyfeatureseverything6179 she could end up somewhere less than ideal, but unlikely to be anywhere close to this bad. Worst I heard of is a friend of mine whose adoptive family used the money the government gave for the adopted children on their birth children instead, and wasn’t allowed to go back to the church I used to go to with her. She ended up getting out of there and living happily with some distant relatives who were glad to take her in. She’s living a great life now, it looks like.

[@lowktrk5559]

@@GamingGamer1000 it seems that way to people because we usually only hear about the horror stories and systematic failures that contributed to a childs murder. its always after the fact. everyone who has a functioning mind knows that there are amazing adoptive parents and abusive adoptive parents. the remaining reality is that vulnerable children are consistently failed by everyone. with this story being out and this specific girl speaking out about her experience probably made it more likely that she got adopted into a home that was aware.

[@adMOnished1]

​@@GamingGamer1000K. You met like prolly 2 kids CPS fucked up and forgot to place into abusive and dangerously lethal homes. A broken clock is right twice a day. Those CPS demons did not help your acquaintances. They got lazy and a few slipped thru unraped and unabused. They'll redouble their efforts and make sure someone else's kid will pay for their neglect. Don't worry, some child under their care is suffering immensely as they stare the act in the face and do nothing about it.

[@jubilantsleep]

I will never forget this young man and his siblings. They deserved so much more than they were given.

[@ninisky2706]

not a young man. A child.

[@65firered]

@@ninisky2706 It's a saying.

[@pioneershark2230]

@@ninisky2706 young man is a term used for a wide variety of ages..

[@angelperez3750]

I already forgot in t-minus eight-minutes

[@ArtsyHumanbean]

My lesbian aunties were never able to adopt bc they tried AFTER this case. They told me it sparked a lot of anti gay adoption. They decided to do invitro (?) and they have three beautiful babies.

[@Cris-if8kf]

I'm sorry to hear they couldn't I hope things are going well though

[@SPGHTTFRT]

We are so fucking stupid that our society chose to scapegoat non hetero adoption rather than choosing to properly fund, audit, reform etc DCF and buff up accountability over all adoptive parents.

[@ceaseless246]

@@SPGHTTFRT that because it was literally never about what’s best for the children

[@SPGHTTFRT]

Jack Zumalt Agreed. I think the left should really put the pressure on our leaders to pass these “family” / “for the children” type policies that are obvious to most regular people, even republican voters. It’s not the left’s ultimate comprehensive policy goal, but it would serve to call out the hypocrisy of “family values” politicians, and if we somehow got concessions it would still be a very important change in these kids’ lives. I’m just imagining the fucking arguments against - “Child Protection Services is inefficient, we must privatize and allow the free market to solve this issue”

[@nattyfeatureseverything6179]

3 that sounds like a head ache lol send them my best lol

[@nikmariealex]

The system will literally take kids from parents for being poor and will give the kids to new people and money to raise them. Like I'm sure I'm some cases the bio parents could benefit from that money to help with their kids. Everything about children is expensive, the birth rate is falling for a reason...

[@shawnwoods4369]

Yeah they get a check for adopting them. Why not give the real parents a check to help raise them???

[@Eveoriginalsinner]

@@shawnwoods4369 ooof not real parents say bio. Adopted parents are real parents too (in some cases fuck these two)

[@jackdanson2]

All I can speak for is my state, but you don't get your kids taken from you for being poor. My sister is a foster parent, most kids that get taken from their bio parents end up back with the biological parents after a few weeks/months. You have to be seriously derelict to permanently lose your kids. The state does everything it can to return kids to their biological parents. As far as for "being poor"? That's hogwash. Let's see, the past few kids my sister had... 2 year old that was involved in a serious car accident, wasn't in a car seat, mom was intoxicated. Was only taken into foster care for a few weeks. Family of 4 kids, oldest daughter says mom pointed a gun at her for misbehaving, these kids were only with my sister a couple weeks before returning home. Daughter might have been lying, but mom had violent record and it's better to be safe than sorry when a 14 year old calls 911 saying her mom is pointing a gun at her. A 6 year old who's parents were physically abusive. He wet himself because my sister's dog jumped on the couch and his biological dad shot their dog for doing the same thing. In the 10 or so cases she's had every single one was blatantly dangerous and abusive. And every single one gave ample opportunity to have their kids returned. Her only permanent adoptions were children who's parents literally abandoned them after they were taken. Like didn't even show to single court date and wouldn't respond to their case worker for 18+ months.

[@scoobertmcruppert2915]

@@jackdanson2 So why didn’t they treat the reports of these parents the way you describe. You’re wrong and your anecdotes don’t prove otherwise. CPS is FAR stricter in minority and poor communities than wealthy ones.

[@jackdanson2]

@@scoobertmcruppert2915 I fully agree that they don't enforce this stuff as thoroughly with rich white people. That doesn't mean that the poor and minorities that are losing their kids aren't a threat. Your acting like they'll just take anybody's kid as long as they're poor or black. That's absolutely not true. And when they do the government makes an insane effort to return the children to their biological parents.

[@madisonchausse4767]

Literally bawling at davonte on stage with the singer. He was so happy for that connection and love. Makes me so sad

[@MunkiesMontages]

Ooo

[@liaevans4483]

He was so extremely skinny! No one is saying anything and its driving me insane. He looks like he was starved

[@austenanderson3475]

The singer is Xavier Rudd I’ve seen him live multiple times great artist and that was pure love.

[@pureloathing7317]

Probably the first time he had been held in year, poor baby

[@jesspavlichenko5745]

@@austenanderson3475 I've seen him live too. He is amazing

[@madelainestein3579]

So he just hugs strangers and cries and everyone acts like that’s normal oh noo

[@Preacher_.]

While looking EXTREMELY malnourished...

[@missraincanyon]

Right, at first I was like weirded out by the adult but then I realized what the kid was doing and remembered my traumatic childhood and literally anyone that would show an ounce of affection towards me and I would break down and cling to them for dear life like I bet that he was holding onto that dude for dear life and praying someone recognize a cry for help while simultaneously hoping his abusive POS parents won't punish him later

[@ThatGirlJD]

@@missraincanyon This child was made to hug people. They made him wear a "Free Hugs" sign. He looks back to her for approval after his performance at the music festival.

[@atomosvrial1708]

Fuckin dude is using a child as a fetish for his 'spiritual journey'. .... Hes crying because hes getting such a huge ego high from all the attention.

[@harlowfitzpatrick9031]

@@atomosvrial1708 Idk about that one boss. Some people are just into spirituality you dont need to look for a villain beyond the parents.

[@yeehaw4135]

Dude every time they were like "police were called and they investigated" or one of the kids managed to tell someone about their treatment it got my hopes up like YES FINALLY THEY CAN BE SAVED just for them to be given back again. This could have been prevented if cps did their fucking job and didn't give an unexperienced couple SIX kids

[@lich109]

Or if the kids were taken away when one of the moms confessed to assault. That was the biggest one for me.

[@dnikkithatsame5990]

See this is why equality for all should be a goal. People don’t believe women can be just as evil as men- but they can. This reminds me of a case where a woman killed her mom, a few husbands and her friend for instance money and she got away for a long time because she played on the idea of female fragility. People saw these two women and ignored red flags because they were women.

[@scoobertmcruppert2915]

@@dnikkithatsame5990 Sure let’s toss in a little bs MRA huh?

[@65firered]

It's like they forgot they have to do an investigation or something.

[@pioneershark2230]

@@dnikkithatsame5990 yeah, no leftist disagrees on equality, hence why the inequality in the courts is something that's mentioned, stems from the sexist notion that women are harmless, like children, even.

[@ArtsyHumanbean]

This story is tragic. The early shit hits hard, but the end twists the knife right thru you

[@jubilantsleep]

Definitely one of the saddest stories I’ve ever heard. Those poor children never had a chance.

[@ghostmobiil]

God, I nearly had to stop halfway bc I felt tears coming out.

[@brianpj5860]

This makes me want to burn down every DFS facility i come across, and go on a vigilantly euthanasia spree on all the abusive foster parents who get multiple chances.

[@tinytoebeanz]

The kids were so starved for affection, they literally cried just from being hugged by someone. So fucking sad.

[@johnnyrambo22]

@Jo are you out of your fucking mind

[@scoobertmcruppert2915]

@Jo Jeez, wtf is wrong with you. All of the kids were killed and you just sound like an uncaring asshole.

[@Setherina]

@Jo what the fuck is wrong with you?

[@65firered]

@Jo You sure you don't want to reconsider a different angle here? Maybe just approach from a different perspective?

[@rodolfodoce]

not only starved for affection, but also nourishment and physical abuse.

[@DrAntics1]

Talk about repressed trauma, started crying out of the blue at work listening to this. The foster care system in this country is fucked.

[@Saturn_Rising]

i'm sorry this video upset u so much ): sending positive vibes

[@harper2]

I’m crying too this is fucking horrible.

[@Madhatter91791]

I remember this case a lot because it made me so angry. From the original free hugs sign pictures that made me distrustful of Jennifer and Sara. To their friends that were going everywhere on the internet to defend Jennifer and Sara because we didn't know them, that everything negative said about them was because of bigotry. Turns out they were to close to see the evil for what it was. These kids were failed every step of the way.

[@ghostmobiil]

I only remember the child with the free hugs sign. I did not know the whole backstory of this 😟

[@fatmcgee509]

Obviously the Hart ladies were the monsters, but a whoooooole lot of adults and institutions failed those kids. They slipped through every crack and safety net. Fucking tragic, breaks my heart.

[@ProletariatPrince]

That poor kids face. You know what hes thinking. Hes thinking please save me and take me home with you. I hate these people.

[@thomasandrewclifford]

Imagine being those social workers and making the calls that killed 6 children. Jesus

[@Saturn_Rising]

i want to be a social worker and i thought the same thing... like.. how can u be a social worker and just not care about these 6 kids?!

[@krs1297]

@@Saturn_Rising they were black, the parents were white. That's now they didn't care

[@sierra4107]

It took ten times of leaving lunch boxes out for the kids so the mom wouldn’t see AFTER one of the girls jumped out of the window in the middle of the night for the neighbors to think they should call it in??

[@lich109]

Right? The first time the kid comes to you begging for food you should be thinking "Why doesn't he have food at home?"

[@ProletariatPrince]

How did they just LET THEM TAKE THAT GIRL HOME. YOU CALL THE POLICE YOU TELL THEM SHES NOT THERE. YOU DO SOMETHING.

[@ProletariatPrince]

@Cools DOODS Can you not.

[@swiftdragonrider]

Actually no this is extremely hard to do. You are hiding someone's elses kids. Even reporting to the police is hard.

[@ProletariatPrince]

@@swiftdragonrider Dude. I was a mandated reporter. Its not hard. You just have to do it.

[@Bobsaget121]

They tried to hide her, but their SIL ratted her out and the moms threatened to call the police if they didn’t give her back.

[@kelseycain3469]

If it's me.. call em. Saves me the trouble. You wanna explain why this starving child jumped from a 2nd story window at 2 am? Or should I?

[@circuitben]

The old man's quaky voice talking about the kids being in danger - you can hear the concern, it broke me

[@sarahpontier4684]

They said “nothing suspicious” ab the house then they proceeded to say all the kids share one fucking room to SIX of them. Like that in itself is weird conditions to be having for adopted kids in my mind? Maybe I’m wrong ab adoption standards but like that’s so many bodies to a bedroom it feels like a red flag on its own

[@scoobertmcruppert2915]

I think they meant like a common room shared by the kids…like a game room or family room type deal.

[@natashahart25]

@@scoobertmcruppert2915 no. It you look at the police report they only 2 beds in the whole house. One twin bed the parents bed.

[@alcesspectre]

When he got shocked about the "no kill shelter" he forgot that when that girl had tried to escape previously, her apology letter claimed she was upset that 2 of their cats had recently died....

[@nickadams9504]

Unfortunately in America both cops and CPS have a tendency to not solve abuse and/or make it worse.

[@insecteatrr]

It’s never been about the kids well-being. People have turned this case into a scapegoat for anti lgbt discrimination. Gross.

[@FrejiaPlaysGames38]

Yet I almost lost my newborn son because I was 11 years sober from heroin on methadone & a nurse thought methadone assisted sobriety was still drug addiction. If it weren't for the fact that he had a negative drug test when he was born, they would have taken him from me 3 days after birth.

[@sarahbearbabygirl]

so sorry this happened to you, and congratulations on your long term sobriety. nurses and EMTs are often awful to current and former addicts, often intentionally letting ppl OD and die, and can be generally bigoted af because they go into the profession just to have power over others. ppl always say: sociopath men become cops, sociopath women become nurses. and culturally i understand to a certain extent having disdain for addicts - it’s been drilled into us that it’s a moral failing, even though it isn’t, and the toxic messages of “the war on drugs” permeates US media and culture - but hating former addicts? i feel like even the ignorant should find someone who has been sober for years to be even stronger than the average person, because they were able to do one of the hardest things possible: getting clean. i guess people do just underestimate how powerful addiction truly is, and how difficult staying clean is even at the best of times. i wish you and your child well ❤

[@uggggggghhhhh]

What they dont mention in this video is that when Hannah jumped out of a window and ran to the neighbors at 1 am to ask for help, she begged them to allow her to stay and told them they would starve her, beat her and were racist then ran into the house. A bit later that night, Jennifer showed up and barged into her neighbors house without permission or anything and began going through the house looking for Hannah who she found huddled in a corner, the neighbor went to look because she noticed Jennifer was making Hannah more agitated, she said Jennifer was arguing with Hannah and making it seem like Hannah was upset over a fight with one of her brothers, neighbor then left Jennifer and Hannah alone in the room until they came out and left together... everyone (except for the grandpa that called 911) failed those kids. i can not imagine how helpless and betrayed hannah mustve felt when the neighbors let her go back with that crazy witch. i feel like crying imagining it. she legit risked it all and no one cared, like she meant nothing to anyione, she probably cried herself to sleep so many times. they tried to get help and were left to die. that was their whole life, just sadness and pain. they wont get another chance to live, thats it, forever. hurts my soul. i unironically hope it haunts those neighbors.

[@sarahbearbabygirl]

and to think this all is just because CPS decided these white woman were more capable of caring for these kids then their loving biological aunt, whose only mistake was not having accessible childcare and had to call the mom to help so she could keep her job. cops and CPS always have a 1 strike policy when it comes to black parents/caretakers but never seem to look into abuse by white parents/caretakers unless it’s super obvious or almost too late. like the aunt went through the complicated and grueling process of obtaining custody, BOUGHT A BIGGER HOUSE JUST FOR THOSE KIDS, and it wasn’t good enough for CPS. truly despicable.

[@forthefrogs]

Couldn't agree more !

[@karthik547]

After reporting belt marks kids were not taken out. But her aunt went one extra shift and she lost these beautiful babies. This was clear case of neglect of cps. And how being black will automatically make you bad.

[@65avo65]

The hug devonte was getting was so sad. He probably hadn’t felt an embrace like that in a long time. No matter how weird it was to us. Probably was all he had.

[@yocpum123]

As kid who came from literal an extreme home abuse this makes me so incredibly scared and sad , I know that fear and desperation choosing to take the risk in getting help because you knew what the consequences would be, but you have no other choice ! That fear is completely the worst feeling ever . Once I hit my mother back finally she never touched me or my siblings again ..., 😢

[@Trode22]

Not sure how many more of these monster videos I can handle. They just ruin my day.

[@RashidMBey]

I'm sorry. These are extremely despairing, especially for folks who've witnessed the system fail to protect children from reported abuse. If you need a homie, I'm here. I'll watch something that's less harrowing than this with you and discuss it if you'd like a friend. 🖤

[@allweareismcr]

@@RashidMBey that’s so sweet omg

[@megamillion5852]

@@allweareismcr I want so badly for empathy on the internet, like this, to just be the norm. It would be so good for everyone.

[@madelainestein3579]

They took the kids away just cause she babysat her own kid

[@bluezsoicy9226]

because she was deemed not able to care for her childern -- for a drug problem, abuse, etc. you can't deem her unable to take care of her kids and then let her... be the one that takes care of the kids.

[@doofusPoofus]

@@bluezsoicy9226 wouldn’t be surprised if it happened often as well. There’s so much more to CPS disputes than can be described in a few sentences.

[@OM-wl7qe]

@@bluezsoicy9226 They were living with their aunt, they could have told her to find another babysitter instead of taking the kids

[@phoenixpills]

@Cools DOODS We don't know the extent of abuse the kids had before being taken away the first time, but there's absolutely no denying that there are some serious racial problems we have in the US, and the fact that nobody at any time in this story were willing to ... do anything really says a lot. It really is just as simple as "white women" get the benefit of the doubt sometimes, to be good people. And that's it. That's the problem.

[@lich109]

@@bluezsoicy9226 But she wasn't even taking care of the kids, she was babysitting for one evening after 6 months without any issues with the aunt raising the kids. That one night of babysitting was enough for CPS, yet somehow an assault confession from one of her adopted moms was just a slap on the wrist.

[@Sizifus]

The system failed those children. Just unbelievable levels of complete apathy, this could have been avoided, it was all there, plain as day, and it still ended in tragedy. "Protect and serve", what a joke...

[@DaisyDojo]

I would've locked Hannah in my house and called police, tf? Mom shows up and starts banging on the door for her daughter, cops are on their way, it's done. The tears on the apology note are so sad..

[@Mikerille]

And then you get arrested for stealing a child, and have a mandatory restraining order, and then you can’t further help the kids. Keep the kid on your front porch, call and have HER explain to the cops is what I would had done, and if the parents had come close I would warn them that interrupting a report of abuse is a hefty crime and if they did not leave the property until the report is over than they would stand their ground (Texas) also would be fine because she was on the porch and thus could see her even when off the property.

[@jtyler3196]

This story broke my heart and brought me to tears....

[@britishcodfish1472]

These two seem like communal narcissists. They do good for others so they can post about it on social media after, but there’s no love for the ones they help behind the scenes. It’s common to see people like this in relief work and charities. They are social predators.

[@danikajennings4473]

I know someone just like this D:

[@zillafire101]

How did they keep getting away with this

[@Brodie3K]

"Problem" children are often not believed, or really cared for.

[@ceaseless246]

they were attractive white ladies

[@Nova-ct4pw]

Upper class white women

[@badcule]

@@ceaseless246 Attractive?

[@65firered]

@@badcule To the people who "evaluated" them.

[@Bound4Earth]

That poor child that cries everytime you hug him, is crying out for help. It is the only time he gets love in his life. These women should be in jail for the rest of their life. They destroyed the childhood of these poor children.

[@leahsander5490]

So, was the DeKalb family arrested for assisting in this abuse? The teachers who assisted in this abuse? The CPS employees who assisted in this abuse? No? Great.

[@donniebao]

The dekalb family called the police, wtf r u talking about

[@leahsander5490]

@@donniebao Yeah... after several months. Hey, if I witness child abuse and tolerate it for months on end... doesn't really make me a hero if I finally do call the police.

[@donniebao]

@@leahsander5490 it was literally 3 days later that they called the first time, did you pay attention?

[@leahsander5490]

@@donniebao No, I'm sorry, three days later the woman's DAD decided he couldn't stand his daughter's and son-in-law's inaction anymore and called. Nothing came of that and for the next MONTHS the DeKalbs would continuously have Hart children showing up at their door begging them for food and not to tell their parents they gave them anything and the DeKalbs did not call anyone about that. Have you been paying attention?

[@donniebao]

@@leahsander5490 yeah I have. The father is a part of the family, therefore the family DID call. Nothing came of it because the police were incompetent.

[@heyhowsitgoing5096]

every. single. person. Failed those kids. Besides the their aunt who really did try. Just made a mistake. Absolutely preposterous. That son-in-law should’ve done so so so much more. Cowardice

[@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083]

Omg, I just remembered this poor boy. He needed these hugs so badly. I can't watch the rest. It's horrific.

[@FKA_TUCSON]

my favorite thing about cops is that they can't do anything if abuse is reported, but they can harass, abuse and arrest people in the street for just "looking suspicious"

[@EmoRiverGirl]

My best friend worked with Sarah. Said she was a horrible manager but this was all still shocking to come to light for her and the other staff

[@cherblairbear]

I believe it. Imagine how disgusting you have to be to do this

[@nattyfeatureseverything6179]

the biological mother was just neglectful a drug user but this is insane like clear racial bias going on here

[@CalistoFury]

27:38 I completely agree with Hasan on this take having experienced domestic abuse and the cops did nothing

[@SkyReviewsNet]

@Cools DOODS wtf is wrong with you

[@CalistoFury]

@Cools DOODS my parents physically and mentally abused me as did my ex husband. So I know that it's all bad

[@CalistoFury]

@Cools DOODS my condolences.

[@katelynjoymoore5008]

@Cools DOODS what the hell is wrong with you

[@twentylush]

@Cools DOODS That is quite literally exactly what you are doing. Like that is 100% what you just did. How do you not see this.

[@mayhewstorm1473]

That dad is a real fucking hero

[@vanessalove5425]

sad to say... but people like this, make it so easy for anti-LGBTQ+. the kids really deserve life and love.

[@tammydisco]

And it’s so senseless too, cause straight couples abuse kids and no one generalizes what happens as something all straight people do. So sad for the kids :(

[@mayhewstorm1473]

Exactly. Right wingers will use this to hurt the lgbtqa+ while some kid gets beat to death by their straight parents and that will NEVER make people say what is said about lgbtqa+ parents

[@katelynjoymoore5008]

@Cools DOODS you clearly know nothing about politics or what differentiates the left lmfao

[@katelynjoymoore5008]

@Cools DOODS alright kiddo

[@badcule]

Ofc you have to make it about the Lgbt+ when in the fact Black childern are the real victim.

[@DehniiMoon]

It blows my fucking mind that the cops literally showed up MULTIPLE times to do investigations and because the lesbian couple didnt feel like it, the cops were like "WeLl GuEsS tHeIr NoT HoMe TiMe To Go BaCk To ThE sTaTiOn"

[@-xphobia]

Hes crying so much because that is the only affection he has ever had in his entire life.

[@blethr]

the amount of cases i’ve seen where cps just fucks up majorly is insane!!!

[@ScorpioXVirgo]

Add interviewing the child suspected of being abused Infront of the abuser

[@erikobernhard]

This hits way different after watching Atlanta season 3

[@nattyfeatureseverything6179]

and then my jaw just kept on dropping into hell....

[@Itszahia]

these children who are in foster care have already gone through so much. It’s horrible how often they get abused or even killed. they just want a happy home.

[@tinytron]

the worst people get the most innocent children. god damn i cried so hard for these poor babies that were unbelievably failed so many times. they just wanted love and to love..

[@thomasandrewclifford]

Wow those care workers and the neighbours had every opportunity to prevent that horrible result.

[@raebans]

The aunt tried so hard to give them a loving home. Shame on the system. Heartbreaking.

[@leonstrand329]

Well, she did leave the care of the kids to the biological mother, whom probably had an order not to be alone with the kids, so in that instance I think their hands were tied

[@keojiabrown6807]

@@leonstrand329 I know this is old but your acting like she left them with her for days at a time

[@leonstrand329]

@@keojiabrown6807 it dosnt matter, she was ordered not to have unsupervised contact with the kids

[@Itszahia]

i guess devonte found the singer/musician music really comforting and got emotional when he saw him. he definitely got emotional over the comfort and affection that he got at that moment since he was constantly abused and neglected.

[@_k_n_]

1st time I saw this I cried like a baby bruh. Those poor fucking kids.

[@vomit2go]

she sent her pets to a no kill shelter but killed the kids....

[@LMstan1989]

Lee got really lucky then :/

[@jakehaskins5363]

My heart breaks every time I think about this case.. and the fact that money was a motivator in adopting those children. Jesus Christ. Can we talk about how we take children away from families who can't afford to care for them, send them to another family, and then give THAT family money to take care of the child they were just took in their care. If we gave that money to the first family (assuming there were no other signs of abuse or neglect and lack of finances were the main/sole reason for the child being taken), they wouldn't have gotten their kid taken away in the first place.

[@anthonymiller934]

It’s insane what authorities allow…can’t figure out why these women were allowed so much leeway..just can’t figure it out 🤨🤔

[@GamingGamer1000]

Can’t tell if chat spamming pride emotes is them ignorantly trying to support this couple, or trying to make the gay community look bad. These chicks have hurt the gay community’s reputation and spamming “pride” for them is really messed up

[@ooferdoofer7091]

I don’t think they knew they were murderous sociopaths at the beginning of the video when it talked about the pair’s supposed struggle as a lesbian couple

[@65firered]

Knowing chat, it's probably both. They are known for excusing murderers after all.

[@Ya.boi.]

I've seen this to many people many times, when dhs comes to your house to take your kids they do everything they can to find something wrong, and when they come to give you kids they do everything they can to write everything off.

[@queenmother123]

This case still makes me so mad after all of these years later it disturbs me that Devonte hasn't been found those poor kids deserved so much better! :(

[@nattyfeatureseverything6179]

completely batshit.... jaw droped at that end bit

[@kstar1489]

The way child abuse is treated in this country (abuse in general, too, but talking specifically child abuse) is absolutely awful. All child protective services are under funded, under staffed, under trained, and under supervised. We need a massive over haul of these systems and treat child abuse seriously, and form of it. It’s not a joke to be laughed off as “I turned out fine” or “kids these days need a whippen”, it’s disgusting abuse and these services need more resources. Part of why cps is bad as chat was pointing out tirelessly is the over worked and underpaid staff, and the lack of power they have. And how little power minors have to report abuse. I wonder what was going on with the parents, too. Mental health issues, drug, and alcohol abuse could’ve played a role in this as well. And we can’t ignore that and just say they were evil because that closes the conversation on ways to prevent people from becoming abusive parents.

[@TheCoolmaster131]

They made their sure their dogs were okay over literally children........

[@terri4081]

That boy was not looking for love and affection, he was looking for help! All of those children needed help!! Do not mistake that hug for needs love and affection. Open your eyes!!

[@saintleibowitz8401]

these are the situations where a social worker would have probably been able to perceive the abuse that the cops were willing to ignore.

[@lich109]

Apparently not, since the kids' claims of being beaten didn't raise red flags, and neither did the assault confession from one of the moms.

[@maisonleigh4724]

Idk if there’s a hell but I hope it’s treating these two women horribly.

[@TophinatorStreams]

In my experience with police officers, there are typically two types. Cowards and heroes. Unfortunately, the latter are too few and far between. Anecdote: someone stole my college books and sold them back to the school-bookstore. I told the store which books were taken and to see if they could match them with any that were sold back that day. There was one person on their records, but they wouldn’t give me the name. I got a detective to come out and collect the name and to arrest that thief. The detective said “while it’s likely, it’s not enough to make an arrest.” Yes it was and they knew it, they were just too COWARDLY to actually do their job.

[@65firered]

In the last two years, most of the heroes quit and those who remain are losing hope. Unfortunately, the damage has already been done and there likely won't be a way to solve the numerous problems with the system without ultimately making it worse for quite some time. It can be best summarized as "Why stay police officer when the state, the government, the people, your peers, and you hate the police? When no matter what you do nothing will change and you could be thrown under the bus by any of them and you don't even get paid enough to support your family?"

[@nicdem7619]

This is real life ‘Get Out’

[@Saturn_Rising]

fr

[@matttrembley8584]

I can’t be the only one who finds it really creepy that the “sick” text went out at 3am. Like they couldn’t do it the next day?

[@JimSeward92]

The one son who was killed was literally 19. They must've really messed him up to get him to go along with that.

[@bretttaylor3787]

Make those kids property and then see how well the cops investigate.

[@Saturn_Rising]

i think i get what ur saying but.. poorly worded bro "make those kids property" is uhhh

[@venamotylek]

Seeing parents like this reminds me how good I have it.

[@katers1477]

This is the worst ever. I cannot believe this can happen- just pure evil.

[@dannyslemonade976]

This case is so sad, So much could have been to help these children. They deserved much better

[@phantomgamelab]

As long as it's been since this happened, This still makes me sick and gives me chills

[@mayhewstorm1473]

They had six kids in ONE ROOM????????

[@bb4evr]

im not sure if im understanding the story at all cuz i have this on another monitor but it seems that at 17:00 the kids were brought to a concert and for somereason that man resonated with the kid and hes probably crying cuz hes abused and hes letting his emotions out through him. I don't think its that weird but i guess. Unless hes a killer idk not really paying attention.

[@sumimasenq1]

CPS literally had the cops break into our house and take my godson. It was fukked. The first worker was awesome. When he was replaced the next year it was like the FBI descended on our home.

[@leonardodevinci1251]

May God have mercy upon those poor children

[@fishflopper7k]

Yeah dude sorry we didn't find any abuse, it's a shame we inly found out that the parents are STARVING THEIR CHILDREN????

[@smallman3381]

As a former homeschooled kid, laughed so hard at the “normal homeschooling” comment Hasan made. Most if not all homeschool parents are control freaks at best.

[@dannya1854]

I'd bet they were vegans too.

[@マリー-v4p]

That was their excuse as to why the children were so thin iirc

[@ProletariatPrince]

@@マリー-v4p wtf!?!?!

[@ProletariatPrince]

THEY WERE FAKE VEGETARIANS OMGGGGGGGG. They would share facebook posts about being vegetarian but the fridge WAS FULL OF MEAT.

[@dannya1854]

@@ProletariatPrince I can believe that, their whole public life was entirely a sham.

[@sophiakelly9640]

Please don't bring us into this lol

[@ProletariatPrince]

YOU CALL CPS

[@chumbue6537]

You actually don't do that

[@ProletariatPrince]

@@chumbue6537 I WORKED AT A JOB WHERE I WAS A MANDATED REPORTER AND THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT YOU DO.

[@arayagarner2291]

@@chumbue6537 YES YOU FUCKING CAN!! ITS EVEN MANDATED FOR TEACHER NURSES AND SOCIAL WORKERS!!!

[@nsetho]

I honestly wish I never heard this story. I'm angry at 15 different people in this, and I hope they have guilt to match.

[@sazonada]

Ugh. I had to fast forward through that chanting at the music festival. Imagine how the child felt

[@SimplyOrdinaryTv]

This video is so sad and they had a life and potential that was just taken away. By these devils

[@MrLFJ7]

Bro there's a podcast about this family, damn man this shit was brutal.

[@dliap98]

having your kid offer free hugs to complete strangers is so gross to me. especially since you know these kids were being so badly abused behind the scenes

[@ShaydyAF]

You can just see that poor kid needs someone to hold and love him.

[@Malignantt1]

This makes me want to adopt a bunch of kids so they dont end up in a situation like this. Their whole lives were filled with terror. Makes me angry and sad

[@jakemiller4411]

The incompetence of cps and law enforcement in this case is ridiculous

[@anxiety8054]

Cps is quick to take the kids away, but rarely check up on them

[@Fleato]

You’ve missed a point pretty hard. It’s easy to take kids from biological parents. It’s hard to take them away from fosters because they view it differently.

[@maisybee2091]

Only 15.59 minutes in and i think devonté was vying for parent love abd approval so would go up and hug people so his parents got their heartwarming instagram pic. Children seek for approval from their parents because its like survival, and they subconsciously find ways to do it when they discover what makes their parents happy and what doesnt.

[@lestatsluv317]

Had this couple been poor or black or brown, CPS would have taken those kids the moment one of them pled guilty to assault against one of the children. (And why the hell was it just an assault charge? Where was the child abuse charge? The domestic violence charge? The neglect charge for starving the kids? And why was she only charged with one count of anything when multiple children reported the abuse and starvation? One fucking assault charge?) But because they were upper middle class white women they were allowed to severely abuse and neglect these kids until they murdered them. The way things stand with our CPS and foster care system right now, it's like a disgusting sick joke. They take kids when they shouldn't and they place them with people who are often psychopathic abusers and every single time you hear a horror story about kids suffering abuse at the hands of a foster parent, it is ALWAYS revealed that CPS had multiple chances to do something and they did nothing, either until there are years of reports of severe abuse and neglect or one of the kids ends up dead. It's absolutely twisted. And unfortunately the bar is much higher for foster parents or adopted parents than biological parents when it comes to CPS taking kids away. It's another system in America where people protect their own. Since foster parents are tied in with CPS, they are far less likely to acknowledge obvious signs of abuse and neglect and actually take the children. And white lady tears only work if the white woman has money. I promise you, cops in poor neighborhoods don't give a fuck about your tears no matter who you are. But, man, if a white woman has money? She's good to go.

[@pigeonmilk8976]

I’m from Oregon, and this case will always make me angry.

[@Ltsmuna]

Me who lived in Portland Oregon and was homeschooled around this time: I hope I don’t see anyone I know……

[@lindsay8575]

The note would of been a tiny more believable if she wrote I was really mad at my mom for not letting me do xyz…. This story is so heartbreaking