HASHINSHIN REACTS TO NEW REWORK AATROX

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@justanotherLunny
@justanotherLunny 6 жыл бұрын
"Fight and be remembered as a hero (...)" We'll miss you, Aatrox. Goodbye.
@xlxn7399
@xlxn7399 6 жыл бұрын
*"Pain is temporary, victory is forever."*
@koraykaymakc5639
@koraykaymakc5639 6 жыл бұрын
And before the rework, all of you idiots cried for a rework.
@xlxn7399
@xlxn7399 6 жыл бұрын
Koray Kaymakçı I never did. I love Aatrox as he is now. He is total garbage now. Just nerfed him. I main Aatrox.
@koraykaymakc5639
@koraykaymakc5639 6 жыл бұрын
Narkko have you even fucking tried it? For real, wait for it to come to the real server. Play it. Then, trash talk about it. Riot literally cannot please any of you. They put fucking effort into this game.
@proxriptide5401
@proxriptide5401 6 жыл бұрын
Koray Kaymakçı I've played Aatrox since I started in season 4 and you're right we did want a rework to fix our champion. The problem is that THIS ISN'T AATROX. This is a fuck you to everyone who had any attachment to aatrox
@skadi2411
@skadi2411 6 жыл бұрын
Ikr its like a totally different champion feelsbadman
@uchihasflame1
@uchihasflame1 6 жыл бұрын
not really more like riven lol
@juicecan6450
@juicecan6450 4 жыл бұрын
It's 2020 and even his revive is gone. This is a completely different champion called aatrox
@goldenmairon2371
@goldenmairon2371 4 жыл бұрын
This aged badly
@pandabean
@pandabean 4 жыл бұрын
Rework aged badly lol had to rework him 3 times
@ichiel1898
@ichiel1898 3 жыл бұрын
no old aatrox still cooler
@zuboragabora8966
@zuboragabora8966 3 жыл бұрын
i mean sort of. yeah new aatrox definitely has healing and the champion has certainly has times where he's very good but on the whole the champion is absolutely nothing like old aatrox. when hashinshin says "i wanna draintank i want to kite i want to autoattack" he has a very good point, that new aatrox's playstyle is not remotely similar to old aatrox's playstyle
@soundscapemusic8980
@soundscapemusic8980 3 жыл бұрын
@@zuboragabora8966 Exactly. I used to spam aatrox for like 4 seasons even when he was garbage and since his rework I haven't touched him
@The-Akkaro
@The-Akkaro 3 жыл бұрын
aatrox was just an unpopular tryndmere really his new lore and everything about him is absloutly better
@hakuhaku5189
@hakuhaku5189 6 жыл бұрын
3:05 guys. Look at the right side of aatrox. It says "Nerf Singed."
@MadFriend
@MadFriend 3 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@hakuhaku5189
@hakuhaku5189 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadFriend HAHAHAHAHA
@Michael-yv8ng
@Michael-yv8ng 6 жыл бұрын
:( They're removing a champion :(
@therealyones
@therealyones 6 жыл бұрын
Well thank fucking god it's aatrox they're removing
@fienyx7333
@fienyx7333 6 жыл бұрын
They are? I still see him in champion select....
@TheLastAatroxMain
@TheLastAatroxMain 5 жыл бұрын
@@fienyx7333 not aatrox
@alfredosantuarioolvera6133
@alfredosantuarioolvera6133 5 жыл бұрын
I come from the future, aatrox is top tier since its departure
@walteralbertolt
@walteralbertolt 5 жыл бұрын
@@alfredosantuarioolvera6133 And Hashishin won't stop talking about "how fun to play" it is
@izshtar
@izshtar 6 жыл бұрын
*I was Expecting for some Good sht then They gave us Riven 2.0* What the fuk
@sergiusprintar5491
@sergiusprintar5491 6 жыл бұрын
remember when they tried to rework riven? fans weren't to happy so now, this is the riven rework, but because they can't touch the actual riven, they decided to delete aatrox and replace him with this riven rework, it took some time because they also had to remake the model of the character. And put a revive instead of a projectile slash on the ultimate to make it seem more like aatrox
@griffithsmuse4899
@griffithsmuse4899 6 жыл бұрын
Now you know the pain of the old urgot players.
@ichiel1898
@ichiel1898 3 жыл бұрын
old urgot actually sucked tho
@kinbruh
@kinbruh 3 жыл бұрын
More like old sion, just completely made him a different champ
@sionenjoyer9746
@sionenjoyer9746 11 ай бұрын
@@kinbruh Old sion was fucking garbage. He was such a fucking mess. If not a rework, he should have been straight up removed
@dazzlingcabbage
@dazzlingcabbage 6 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this thanks man
@Jet-BlackWings
@Jet-BlackWings 4 жыл бұрын
*Pre-rework Hashinshin react to new Aatrox*
@RAZORlukic
@RAZORlukic 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly want to start a petition for Riot to revert back Aatrox
@therealyones
@therealyones 6 жыл бұрын
No, old Aatrox was genuine aids.
@cyrus01337
@cyrus01337 6 жыл бұрын
well congrats now u got something thats even worse when its fed. better prepare ur asscheeks because this shit is gonna rip right thru that shit like it will your fucking armor riven 2.0 everybody
@artistaro5335
@artistaro5335 6 жыл бұрын
Joona Heikkilä so your argument is he is shit therefore because people don't like him don't need to play against him makes it a good rework?! That's not how it should work because both sides should be satisfied but well I think sadly riot agrees with you
@therealyones
@therealyones 6 жыл бұрын
Marlon Eggert The thing you said makes no damn sense or is too cryptic for me to understand. My argument was that old Aatrox was aids to play against because his damage is based on autoattacking and he's stupidly good at sticking onto enemies. New Aatrox's whole damage is based on his Q that can be dodged very easily, unlike the old aatrox who could only be countered if you built a thornmail. Also new Aatrox isn't even bad.
@Bloodlinemishima
@Bloodlinemishima 6 жыл бұрын
Joona Heikkilä do you even play aatrox
@Wahliam
@Wahliam 6 жыл бұрын
Not my Aatrox
@crimson48
@crimson48 6 жыл бұрын
He's right you know.
@firebird0943
@firebird0943 6 жыл бұрын
We will miss Aatrox.
@romas011
@romas011 4 жыл бұрын
This aged like milk.
@zuboragabora8966
@zuboragabora8966 3 жыл бұрын
i mean sort of. yeah the champion has seen very good times since the rework but fundamentally the playstyle is not remotely similar to old aatrox at all
@ReivasMC
@ReivasMC 6 жыл бұрын
everything hashinshin said in this vídeo sounded like it was coming from my mouth… at least I'm not the only one that thinks this rework is shit. Too bad it's hashinshin though, maybe he's not that much of a pain, maybe he just has an annoying way of complaining about real shit.
@louischandler4611
@louischandler4611 6 жыл бұрын
annoying, but completely right, i never really liked aatroxs playstyle, it wasnt my thing, but they completely changed evrything about him. Galio still plays as a somewhat teambased magic tank, swain still plays and a health drain battlemage, evelynn is still a jungle assassin based on semi permastealth,even ryze in every iteration is a combo/reset based mage of some sort. Aatrox is so unbelievably different it is like a different champ, turning from an auto attack based drain tank into some sort of convoluted darkin riven and that really sucks
@ReivasMC
@ReivasMC 6 жыл бұрын
Louis Chandler yeah exactly, and it will be impossible to balance that. a kit that trashy will either be useless or completely broken depending on the numbers, the kit itself sucks fucking dick.
@louischandler4611
@louischandler4611 6 жыл бұрын
yup, although not actually a bad kit imo, just bad for aatrox, take his first three abilities, make the dash longer and give it a different ult and BAM, new champion idea that might actually be quite nice
@ReivasMC
@ReivasMC 6 жыл бұрын
his Q is complete trash. Everyone will just walk up to him, get half the damage because only one knock up hit and just get all their damage out on his face. And he can't even escape because his dash is smaller than a child's dick
@louischandler4611
@louischandler4611 6 жыл бұрын
new aatrox seems like a one trick champion, like singed and shaco, where it will be very hard to perform them to a good degree, but the one tricks who'll hit all their abilities perfectly through practice will be godlike players and make aatrox look awesome.
@plasmahvh
@plasmahvh 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like I don't like.. and he mains him now
@ClasheurIZI
@ClasheurIZI 4 жыл бұрын
2020 now and Hash totally loves Aatrox
@cjvangin
@cjvangin 3 жыл бұрын
3 mini reworks later
@3rdshura
@3rdshura 3 жыл бұрын
i think if u ask hash rn he will choose the old one again
@gabrielpanagsagan9741
@gabrielpanagsagan9741 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny on how 2 years later reworked aatrox is his most favorite champion now lmao, everybody do be hating him back in the days but now the majority likes him so much better now
@zeropokewarrior1
@zeropokewarrior1 3 жыл бұрын
Its a favorite cuz it have a good win rate thats the only reason why riven v2 is loved
@victoraugustodelimavidal8981
@victoraugustodelimavidal8981 3 жыл бұрын
NO.
@CONFINEX
@CONFINEX 3 жыл бұрын
The sadness is still there u know?
@tiredtobias
@tiredtobias 6 жыл бұрын
Tell me something he doesn't complain about... jesus. The rework is fine, he needed change for a long time until like a week ago once he finally worked in the meta. Also the lore update for him is fucking fantastic.
@mikechartofilis
@mikechartofilis 6 жыл бұрын
yeah he needed the rework, but the point of the video is that they basically made a new champion, he didn't retain anything at all tha resembled the old aatrox apart from the revive. The lifesteal he has is shit, even Irelia has better life steal and lifesteal was a unique aspect of aatrox
@kirxee
@kirxee 3 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, they fell in love again
@cjvangin
@cjvangin 3 жыл бұрын
3 mini reworks later
@salvatoreragolia9971
@salvatoreragolia9971 6 жыл бұрын
Rework? I call this nerf
@andrei-cezarbleaje5519
@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 6 жыл бұрын
i call this : riot don't have any idea what they are doing .
@ultratronger
@ultratronger 6 жыл бұрын
yeah like the urgot rework that was a nerf lul
@juicecan6450
@juicecan6450 6 жыл бұрын
i call this uninstalling aatrox.exe
@koraykaymakc5639
@koraykaymakc5639 6 жыл бұрын
...
@milanesadearsenico
@milanesadearsenico 6 жыл бұрын
Cezar Bleaje they literally did what they wanted
@guyschill2059
@guyschill2059 4 жыл бұрын
Now he mains him
@optie5
@optie5 3 ай бұрын
Aged like milk. Actual boss raid champ now.
@alberteggstein7800
@alberteggstein7800 6 жыл бұрын
why did they reworked aatrox when there are so many other champs that need a rework so bad...
@ultratronger
@ultratronger 6 жыл бұрын
aatrox was the first one on that list lol
@Diriusse
@Diriusse 6 жыл бұрын
they may have start this reworks months, or maybe almost a year ago, when nobody played aatrox. It's just sad that the rework came out when aatrox has an impact in the meta now.
@louischandler4611
@louischandler4611 6 жыл бұрын
aatrox needed the rework to be honest, he just didnt need this one.
@KECOYA
@KECOYA 6 жыл бұрын
NO GOD PLEASE NO STOP ASKING FOR REWORKS FUCKING STOP I DONT WANT YOUR SHITTY REWORKS ANYMORE NOTHING NEEDS TO BE REFUCKED
@HelloThere632
@HelloThere632 6 жыл бұрын
There are actually great reworks which for example yorick or ww ww is pretty much the same champion but more "fresh" this aatrox rework is just retarded
@fortesfortuna4834
@fortesfortuna4834 6 жыл бұрын
R.I.P old aatrox :( time to Quit LoL for me then :(
@Roc_II
@Roc_II 6 жыл бұрын
That's what they all say you'll comeback later lol
@fortesfortuna4834
@fortesfortuna4834 6 жыл бұрын
in year 2040 fam
@01MetalMaster
@01MetalMaster 6 жыл бұрын
You will be on today
@dragonzen2898
@dragonzen2898 5 жыл бұрын
9 months later So did you quit?
@PhilsAmazingBBQ
@PhilsAmazingBBQ 4 жыл бұрын
1 year later So did you quit?
@TuanPham-st2zv
@TuanPham-st2zv 6 жыл бұрын
He can fly? ok that's good, at least his wings are useful now He has new appearance? ok maybe, but the sword is so no to me He has new kit? No, no, that's not right, his rework is not even close to his old kit. Pls Riot, stop removing on-hit champions and replacing them with bursting champions
@lycaneen
@lycaneen 6 жыл бұрын
Literally new champion. The new aatrox has nothing to do with the old one except for his revive which also isnt passive anymore. I love the old aatrox, playing around W and his stacks to outplay was so much fun
@myaps1859
@myaps1859 6 жыл бұрын
Aatrox: 20% healing when E is maxed Rhaast: up to 33% healing....... bruh
@johnymicheal3118
@johnymicheal3118 2 жыл бұрын
Even Hashinshin knew Aatrox was removed from the game.
@5676brian
@5676brian 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with hashinshin, aatrox doesn't exist anymore. This is literally a new champion.
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
5676brian emm..u realise that all the reworks are like that right?All reworks are ment to take the old version and throw it away and replace it with a new champs
@5676brian
@5676brian 6 жыл бұрын
They actually base the champion on what it was but it get better, look yorick, old yorick had ghost, now he got monster. Ryze has electricity magic, still has the same thing. But aatrox ? No atk speed ? Where's the life steal ? Wtf is that E! So yeah actually, they base the rework on the older version. but for aatrox I guess he in an exeption. Btw just go Look at swain and irelia before their rework and compare them to now. They have the same play style as the old version
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
5676brian there are some champs needed a bigger rework than others..like look old yorick and new no comparison,same with urgot etc
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
5676brian also ryze does not use electicity anymore
@aatroxthedarkinblade3052
@aatroxthedarkinblade3052 6 жыл бұрын
well look at irelia her q is the same
@unlimitedpower978
@unlimitedpower978 6 жыл бұрын
So, why does Riot insist on entirely gutting existing champions with new kits when you could keep the old champion AND save those abilities for an actual new champ? Why not just have 2 champions instead of losing a perfectly fine and playable champ.
@nguyenxuankhanh7250
@nguyenxuankhanh7250 6 жыл бұрын
"Hesitation is DEATH". RIP old aatrox :(
@shadxwslash44
@shadxwslash44 7 ай бұрын
It's so weird watching people check out the Aatrox rework when it came out, knowing the position of the champion now, 5.5 years later. "His health bar doesn't even move" yeah right, it doesn't move down xD I healed 1700 with 1 basic attack today xD
@Usifisk
@Usifisk 6 жыл бұрын
They should've just made it when he ulties he fears enemies for 0.5 seconds and when he q he's unstoppable. Done, perfect champ.
@plop7615
@plop7615 6 жыл бұрын
i have legit just played this for the first time and holy shit RIOT NEEDS TO STOP FUCKING TOUCHING CHAMPS THAT ARE IN A GOOD SPOT HOLY SHIT
@kharizma1734
@kharizma1734 6 жыл бұрын
He is now from soul caliber
@---ip3jr
@---ip3jr Ай бұрын
3:37 this remains true 6 years later lmao.
@hexadecimal973
@hexadecimal973 6 жыл бұрын
Only thing thats aatrox here are his wings and 3rd q
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
HeXaDecimal em..revive no?
@hexadecimal973
@hexadecimal973 6 жыл бұрын
Antonis Nicolaou its swain ult v2. And yes he can revive bu i dont see the auto atack speed in it
@antonisnicolaou9212
@antonisnicolaou9212 6 жыл бұрын
HeXaDecimal i mean i just talk about his revive,i said nothing about his ult like on old Aatrox it wasn't even on his ult ya know
@shacuras8201
@shacuras8201 6 жыл бұрын
He doesnt even have the wings without ult
@anton_hansson
@anton_hansson 6 жыл бұрын
HeXaDecimal why would they change him if they won't remove him auto attacking like hell?
@Murlock2000
@Murlock2000 6 жыл бұрын
i completely agree with you, im an old aatrox main ( up until they fucked him up the first time ) and this does not feel like aatrox at all, its a fix of riven and kayn if you ask me. all they had to do was to fix some of the issues with the old aatrox and update the animations abit. now he is cdr / ad instead of attackspeed :S oh and the wings are copy paste from swain - gg poop riot
@TheYaq
@TheYaq 3 жыл бұрын
i miss old aatrox :((
@timinatr99
@timinatr99 6 жыл бұрын
Rip old Aatrox
@daniel06977
@daniel06977 6 жыл бұрын
I like this new champion, he's very heavy metal and reminds me of Satan from Paradise Lost, but they should make him a seperate champion because he got a completely different personality from old Aatrox. Make this one Aatrox's brother or cousin.
@maxsimes
@maxsimes 6 жыл бұрын
i mained aatrox and have a lvl 6(or is it 7?) badge on him. that doesnt mean shit now. its worth nothing because the whole mechanic is different, from auto attack based to ability based - a whole different champion.
@SumThingFawful
@SumThingFawful 6 жыл бұрын
This isn't aatrox, this is some guys original fan darken do no steal. So where is the rework at?
@PanRokador
@PanRokador 6 жыл бұрын
Just like Urgot. From full AD to jugger.
@HelloThere632
@HelloThere632 6 жыл бұрын
Nah Urgot is not like this He still has his old features left just like irelia or gp But aatrox is different The only remarkable thing left of him is his respawn thingy
@MoneyGamerMG
@MoneyGamerMG Жыл бұрын
@@HelloThere632 not even rhe respawn thing is there anymore
@khalilzouhir5862
@khalilzouhir5862 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao meanwhilz its his fav champ
@taeher683
@taeher683 6 жыл бұрын
Boi he was also taking damage at the same time if anything that would be a shit ton of healing because we all know how powerful Orianna ap ratios are.
@kyzegeco7376
@kyzegeco7376 6 жыл бұрын
HAIL AATROX LORD OF EDGYWORLD.
@proxriptide5401
@proxriptide5401 6 жыл бұрын
Rip Aatrox the only chatacter i like as much as bard
@__LostWoods__
@__LostWoods__ 6 жыл бұрын
I freaking live this man
@__LostWoods__
@__LostWoods__ 6 жыл бұрын
Love*
@PacmanLickThisGuysAs
@PacmanLickThisGuysAs 6 жыл бұрын
Man, its like you can hear his heart break. Rip sweet prince
@char-la-tan
@char-la-tan 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't played the new aatrox but in my opinion this aatrox might be better for players who haven't used him. This new Aatrox lost his former self, it's lost itself seriously...to me it looks like riven 2.0. I mained him because of his demonic look and his badass skillset, have been my reason of playing lol, like seriously i played him since i was at lvl 15 and that was 3 yrs ago... i also played his tweaked version the pre rework version that destroyed him and also the reason i dropped the game. I have been hoping for them to fix him but they gave me this... THIS.
@hacdietevuong4138
@hacdietevuong4138 2 жыл бұрын
u still mad ?
@taknie7661
@taknie7661 6 жыл бұрын
His voice doesn't sound like Viktor's. His voice just sucks.
@mortyllien
@mortyllien 6 жыл бұрын
Hash is speaking truth right now. No matter if you hate him or like him he is right. Aatrox was auto attack (mostly) based champ. Now he is what? You have to stand still to actually use his Q. You will never catch anybody with W unless they are bronze, lagging or straight up bad. E? He looks like he tripped over some branch on the ground.. R is somehow okay. His animations look sloppy. His voice is like edgy Darth Vader on meth and his model is garbage.. Nice Job Riot.
@AnKg636
@AnKg636 4 жыл бұрын
#AddOldAatroxBack
@BetaChri5
@BetaChri5 6 жыл бұрын
that "nerf singed" watermark ROFL
@StrunDoNhor
@StrunDoNhor 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, here we go. Aatrox needed a quality of life rework (and arguably a visual one), but not a full gameplay one. With that, how does this sound (head's up, wall of text incoming): *Passive -- Blood Well* Stays unchanged. That was good, that can stay. *Q -- Blades of Torment* *ACTIVE:* Aatrox unleashes two blades that converge to the target point and fan beyond it up to maximum range, each dealing _35/60/85/110/135 (+ 60% bonus AD)_ physical damage to enemies they pass through. Each blade will fill 10% of Aatrox's _Blood Well_ if they damage at least one enemy. _(9/8/7/6/5 second cooldown)_ _Notes: The "converge and fan out" component functions exactly like Heimerdinger's W, making landing both blades much easier. The blades also move much faster, making this a better skillshot-poke ability._ *W -- Blood Thirst* *ACTIVE:* Aatrox's next basic attack within 7 seconds strikes twice. Each strike deals _5/15/25/35/45 (+ 75% AD)_ physical damage and applies on-hit effects. The second strike also marks his target with _Blood Thirst_ for up to 6 seconds. The mark charges over 1.5 seconds. Once fully-charged, Aatrox's next basic attack or ability against the marked target will rupture _Blood Thirst,_ dealing _10/20/30/40/50 (+ 100% AP) (+ 6/8/10/12/14% of target's max. health)_ bonus magic damage, healing Aatrox for 15% of the damage dealt and filling 20% of his _Blood Well. Blood Thirst_ resets Aatrox's auto-attack timer. _(14/13/12/11/10 second cooldown)_ _Notes: The empowered attack functions like Yi's passive, and was done to cement on-hit builds with BotRK/Guinsoo's/Titanic Hydra, which Aatrox was known for. The 1.0 AP scaling also acts as incentive for AP builds, which I feel added a lot of character to Aatrox._ *E -- Dark Flight* *FIRST CAST:* Aatrox takes flight, becoming _untargettable_ for up to 1.25 seconds. After 0.75 seconds, _Dark Flight_ can be re-activated, and automatically does so after 1.25 seconds. *SECOND CAST:* Aatrox dashes to the target location, dealing _70/120/170/220/270 (+ 120% bonus AD)_ physical damage to all enemies in an area and slowing them by 60% for 1.5 seconds. Enemies caught in the landing zone's epicenter are knocked up for 1 second and are stunned for 1.5 seconds instead of slowed. Aatrox fills 10% of his Blood Well for every enemy champion he damages, or if he damages at least one non-champion. _(18/16/14/12/10 second cooldown)_ _Notes: Think of an AD version of Fizz's E and you basically have this. Has a relatively short cooldown as far as defensive abilities go, but considering Aatrox is a sustain bruiser who wants to stay in the fight, this was intentional._ *R -- Massacre* *ACTIVE:* Aatrox draws in the blood of his foes, dealing _150/300/450 (+ 100% bonus AD) (+ 90% AP)_ magic damage to all nearby enemies, pulling them up to 225 units towards his location and stunning them for 0.75 seconds. Additionally, for the next 12 seconds Aatrox gains 225 bonus attack range and _40/50/60%_ bonus attack speed. While active, champion takedowns will extend the duration of _Massacre_ by 4 seconds, up to a maximum of 12 seconds. _(110/90/70 second cooldown)_ _Notes: Basically his old Ulti but with a few bells and whistles to make him an engage monster -- Aatrox wants to get in fights and stay in fights, and this new Ulti is designed to reflect that. Base damage is up and the inclusion of a bonus AD scaling is further incentive to build him on-hit._
@rayedjamal
@rayedjamal 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, I can't lie here- that sounds super broken. 14% max hp? Absurd Scalings? This would be pick/ban. I honestly feel that aatrox needed a rework because when he's good(like rn) he just steamrolls you with high numbers and nigh-immortality, and when he's bad, he loses 1v1's to janna. But the fact that a melee champion can kite with autoattacks? That's not ok. It's a unhealthy concept in general. There are a lot of other champions like this, but just think about it- a melee kiting AA bruiser. Those words just shouldn't be together. Like "rapid fire combo waveclear burst mage(ryze)", who has definitely been a problem in the game, which is why he's needed so may reworks. And to prevent aatrox from becoming another ryze, he needs a overhaul.
@StrunDoNhor
@StrunDoNhor 6 жыл бұрын
_(This is going to be a pretty long-winded response, but I really want to lay out my mindset behind everything, so I hope you'll indulge me)_ Fair enough. All you'd have to do to remove AA kiting is just take away the extra auto range. Yeah it was a pretty unique trait, but it's something that Aatrox can live without. My version of his W... May be a bit extreme looking back, though my logic was for it to finish his trades: His bread-and-butter combo is E --> Auto --> W, wait for the mark to charge --> Q or auto to finish off, at which point you've exhausted all of your abilities and are waiting for the next trade. Though at the same time you're right, a straight 14% at rank 5 is pretty high. The simple fix here is to just lower the numbers, say: _4 / 4.5 / 5 / 5.5 / 6% (+ 5% per 100 bonus AD)_ As for his scaling, it's actually not out-of-place for bruisers, with the obvious exception of the high AP ratios. To put into perspective, Kled's Q has a 1.8 bonus AD ratio on a 90 - 390 base (assuming both parts hit) and Kayn's W has a 1.3 bonus AD ratio on a 70 - 270 base. One of the possible fixes here is to lower the ratios but change them to total AD, e.g. his Q would go from 60% bonus AD to 40% total AD. After all, high bonus AD ratios are generally the territory of the more tanky bruisers who want to be building Black Cleaver and Titanic, whereas by contrast Aatrox is an on-hit bruiser who wants a lot of damage values that he can pump into his basic attacks. Anyways, moving on. My logic with the AP ratios is that you generally won't be getting _that much_ AP with an on-hit build. Assuming BotRK/Guinsoo's/Nashor's are your core items, you're only getting an extra 105 damage on your W (121 if Guinsoo's is fully stacked) and an extra 95 on your Ulti (109 w/t stacked Guinsoo's), which naturally is where the on-hit damage comes into play. A dedicated on-hit bruiser isn't something we really have, and Aatrox was one of the few who could genuinely make it work. My goal was to reflect this -- I don't want _every_ new bruiser to just be another Trinity Force/Titanic/Sterak's user.
@shacuras8201
@shacuras8201 6 жыл бұрын
StrunDoNhor i really liked the ideas for his Q and E, i think it would make the abilities much more interesting and his Q less of a bad ability. Of course neither you or me have any real idea what the numbers should be, but they can be changed easily. Overall id say it sounds great, definitely better than what we got
@mr.a.7977
@mr.a.7977 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to think some people comment saying how wrong his opinion is (not was, is!).
@Antonfinger1
@Antonfinger1 2 жыл бұрын
i was so fcking sad when i saw that fcking rework it killed ma heart
@waissdcali2823
@waissdcali2823 6 жыл бұрын
That rework was maded for casuals, those guys that used to play Aatrox one single time and play it wrong and then say "Aatrox is a shitty champ" riot doesnt give a fuck about the Aatrox mains the only ones who learned the range of his Q and how to manage his passive, Im not saying the new Aatrox sucks but its just absolutely different its not Aatrox, its not a CC tank, not a Splitpusher, its not a play maker, no sustain, im sure this Aatrox its going to be strong, but just because the tank items are strong not because of him
@aboodabujassar1890
@aboodabujassar1890 4 жыл бұрын
Say that now 😂😂
@cod3mhorf34
@cod3mhorf34 11 ай бұрын
aged like milk
@armincal9834
@armincal9834 6 жыл бұрын
what is it with you western people complaining about EVERY fucking change big or small? look the world is changing it has always been changing and it will continue to change, it's not only about LOL or any other video game, u guys have the same opinion on immigrants and people's skin colors too.
@rikingg5629
@rikingg5629 3 жыл бұрын
3 years later, he still loves him
@T4RHUN
@T4RHUN 6 жыл бұрын
I expected him to at least have the healing part in some better way, his ult feels just like a oh-shit button. But his voiceover is what I am the most sad about.
@ryanw.3185
@ryanw.3185 6 жыл бұрын
I actually just found out the darkin are ascended warriors of shurima. ..
@MrPastige
@MrPastige 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I‘ve never heard hashinshin say a single positive thing about a any changes made in this game.
@Terry.M.I.
@Terry.M.I. 6 жыл бұрын
thank you hashinshin this is what ive been saying i fucking hate the new aatrox rework and ive been playing him since he was released
@miraiatc
@miraiatc 6 жыл бұрын
The secret nerf singed
@hobosorcerer
@hobosorcerer 6 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin.. Oriana hit Aatrox during the fight you use to showcase his healing. so of course his health bar didn't move. He healed back to where he was.
@justgabrro3211
@justgabrro3211 2 жыл бұрын
nahh his voice is amazing
@TheRealWALLABI
@TheRealWALLABI 5 жыл бұрын
"Nerf Singed"
@adrianravik455
@adrianravik455 6 жыл бұрын
I thought hes gonna be like late game fighter bruiser dueler carry 1v2 or 1v5..... fuck the rework, old aatrox. Revert it pls ggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!
@junejustindelrosario8987
@junejustindelrosario8987 6 жыл бұрын
did anybody notice the nerf singed? lol
@andrewkonyukhow5209
@andrewkonyukhow5209 6 жыл бұрын
and i just learned how to play good with aatrox, thx rito
@ezrawillow551
@ezrawillow551 6 жыл бұрын
but this video is just what i expected for hashinshin :P
@mcmillz4
@mcmillz4 6 жыл бұрын
hash always the prophet of top lane
@gaboguitarrist
@gaboguitarrist 6 жыл бұрын
"NERF SINGED"
@skrtmanbabbels7526
@skrtmanbabbels7526 6 жыл бұрын
Well at least he has 3 airborne Qs
@MrFischer1337
@MrFischer1337 6 жыл бұрын
disgusting. Give us Aatrox back!!
@2010georgian1
@2010georgian1 3 жыл бұрын
I loved aatrox... now its just a shit champ.. i literally die jungling with it...
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 2 жыл бұрын
Those example clips of showing his power are so fake and bogus, they didn't even try to sell them. Lol, Ori and Malph walking back into his Q so it looks better.
@micksta945
@micksta945 6 жыл бұрын
hopefully he gets the ryze treatment
@aetriandimitri190
@aetriandimitri190 6 жыл бұрын
I will probably still play him since I like these types of characters... But they are just removing old aatrox, this was just an excuse to remove aatrox from the game
@Hamsloth
@Hamsloth 6 жыл бұрын
I felt the same about my swain.. I mained him... Welp.. Not anymore
@WralthChardiceVideo
@WralthChardiceVideo 6 жыл бұрын
New aatrox is literally elesis from elsword/grand chase lmfao.
@PapaTaric
@PapaTaric 6 жыл бұрын
Wralth Chardice Ah GC, that good old shit.
@SumThingFawful
@SumThingFawful 6 жыл бұрын
Wralth Chardice GC, brings back memories
@Jose_Roberto77
@Jose_Roberto77 6 жыл бұрын
Long live the chase
@BonkHazard
@BonkHazard 6 жыл бұрын
is it odd that i compare Aatrox to Zero? Living sword that's jagged and can extend, has a transformation. To me Aatrox was basically a red Zero.
@Jose_Roberto77
@Jose_Roberto77 6 жыл бұрын
So zero was like GC kayn
@darkduh11
@darkduh11 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah not sure how much I trust a Jax one trick's opinion on champ reworks lol
@zoelove5253
@zoelove5253 5 жыл бұрын
And now he's broken as fuck
@manacream
@manacream 6 жыл бұрын
Once Swain... now Aatrox what will be next... Kled? Completely ok champions are reworked instead of these which need it mostly. (I still think that small reworks are best)
@manacream
@manacream 6 жыл бұрын
that "Kled" was supposed to be a sarcasm... their last reworks were just on champions which worked well so I got a little angry after I saw this new one
@manacream
@manacream 6 жыл бұрын
I just don´t like that he is no auto attack champion anymore and mostly that he finally came to state when he is good and now they rework him... his mini rework was perfect and then this eh
@josemariavacaredondo1584
@josemariavacaredondo1584 6 жыл бұрын
Guys I'm not saying those to argue with anyone but Riot were working on the Aatrox rework,since maybe 1 or 2 years? And maybe is normal that they rework a champion when is rarely(or better say almost never picked) picked to make it better for players and more original abilities than simply just uses to abilities to drop like a terrorist an then destroying your right-click like a madman.At least it's what I think of Riot(Unless they want to make the world burn)
@HenriqueRJchiki
@HenriqueRJchiki 6 жыл бұрын
ReportSinged garen is literally top tier toplaner due to his recent buffs, and riot already said champs only get reworked if their play rate gets really low (like galio,swain,yorick, etc and now aatrox)
@Saturday404
@Saturday404 6 жыл бұрын
I actually like the swian rework until they nerf him into the grand
@luigifgc7485
@luigifgc7485 6 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin is super inconsistent. He first complains about "EVERYTHIIIING IS A TANK" and now he is complaining because Atrox isnt a tank now...
@luigifgc7485
@luigifgc7485 6 жыл бұрын
ahhh onii-chan and I never said Atrox was a tank tho....I said that he is complaining because he wants a tank who also needs self-healing.
@BRIE....
@BRIE.... 6 жыл бұрын
I hope this is a case for reverting the rework, like with Rengar. They just did a terrible job and there's no reason to keep it.
@jsmdhappy4651
@jsmdhappy4651 6 жыл бұрын
Hashinshin kept complaining that riven was broken so riot made aatrox a riven 2.0??
@bitny4916
@bitny4916 5 жыл бұрын
ppl in chat say he sounds germen. thats bs
@HDMusicx
@HDMusicx 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha Nightmare from soulcalibur, that would be an awesome Champion xD
@punpun9053
@punpun9053 6 жыл бұрын
Even Kindred needs a rework right now, and by "rework" I mean reverting the passive to what it was before, and getting rid of that pathetic ultimate with no practical way of using when your team is behind. Oh but the stacks were too powerful when the player was a good Kindred, right Riot? And that would be too harsh on casual players amirite? No one likes to be oneshot by a player just because they're... good at the game (???). Maybe they spent more than 1k hours on a champion with more than 600k mastery *BUT HEY*, who cares? Let's just keep the champion as useless as possible and forget that it exists. Let her be just like Urgot, good damage and creative design, but high risk low reward, so no one is going to play her and we can move on to the next champion. Shit company.
@thecoward7003
@thecoward7003 6 жыл бұрын
Aatrox was unique for his LS but now it feels bad.. He is not aatorx.. I don't want him. And the R is worst.
@Felipera_
@Felipera_ 6 жыл бұрын
with this I only have jax and master yi left. As soon as those are reworked I'm out.
@DavidBrocekArt
@DavidBrocekArt 6 жыл бұрын
From now on he is just playing stupid/cringy because that's what made him famous and he can profit from it.
@victorzoo2815
@victorzoo2815 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they completly changed his kit and i feel like they could made feel look more baddass its pretty frustrating I tried and he was pretty fun, but i will still and forever miss old aatrox
@noid8985
@noid8985 5 жыл бұрын
bring back THE AATROX
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