HASHIRAMA KILLS MADARA!! Naruto Shippuden Episode 369-370 Reaction

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Faxityy

Faxityy

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@Steinwaechter
@Steinwaechter Жыл бұрын
Hashirama was crazy strong. He grabbed Kurama like he was a little puppy.
@metarex000
@metarex000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Hashirama`s powerlevel was 25.000 with base Taijutsu. With Sagemode it was 125.000 Wood Dragon Jutsu was 250.000 Wood Golem Jutsu was 500.000 Shinsu Senju Statue was 1.000.000
@OURGAMERSTUDIO
@OURGAMERSTUDIO Жыл бұрын
Itachi can control with his sharingan while Hashirama use full power that why Itachi>>> Hashirama
@silverlightning4995
@silverlightning4995 Жыл бұрын
@@OURGAMERSTUDIO itachi wouldn’t survive 10sec Hashirama is Trained to fight Uchias he beat Madara with ems and Kurama. Madaras Genjutsu is good maybe bether than itachi normal genjutsus, his chakra reserve is strong enough to brake out Genjutsu and even Edo control cant hold him, he can sense chakra and is fast so Amaterasu wouldn’t hit him and he can summon a forest of giant flowers that can put everyone to sleep and cant be blocked by Susano and his recovery speed is so extremely even when Tsukiomi hits it would work just for seconds now tell me WTF IS ITACHI GONNA DO AGAINST HASHIRAMA?! And i didnt even mentioned those damn woodclones, the wooddragon’s, the wood golem, the giant budda, his chakra weapons, his ability to turn every area into his forest wich he can control, watherstyle, earthstyle, shadowclones -> shadowclones-giant homing shurikens Itachitards are besides Gear 5 ruffy meat riders the worst fanboys. Do u really think Madara wouldn’t take any chances to put Hashirama under a genjutsu. ya stup!d or something?
@MWMTEE
@MWMTEE Жыл бұрын
wth@@metarex000
@MWMTEE
@MWMTEE Жыл бұрын
lol@@OURGAMERSTUDIO
@cheangizzz
@cheangizzz Жыл бұрын
Hashirama was very patient with Madara, giving him chance after chance, while Tobirama advised to be more ruthless. In the end Madara tried to destroy the Leaf and Hashirama killed him (or thought so), so it was concluded that Tobirama's view was correct. Tobirama's students Hiruzen inherited Hashirama's good will and patience, which led to bad things as he wasn't ruthless enough with Orochimaru and Danzo. Danzo inherited Tobirama's pragmatism and ruthlessness, which led to Uchiha massacre and Sasuke becoming what he turned into. Sasuke is correct in thinking that all of the past kage are at fault for the current state of affairs. Except maybe Minato, bro died too early to be involved in politics, this mess has nothing to do with him.
@Andrew-px9fj
@Andrew-px9fj 9 ай бұрын
Nah bro.. you cant compare Danzo with Tobirama.. Danzo is much more chady and selfish... Also Hashirama 100% did kill Madara.. Marara used a delayed izanagi to get out which is kind of a plot hole because you bet tobirama and/or hashirama would have sealed his body away and have guards around lmao.
@Andrew-px9fj
@Andrew-px9fj 9 ай бұрын
Also yes Hashirama had a lot of patience with Madara, I would say even holding back in this battle and after, after all he took kurama easelly lmao... But Hiruzen letting go Orochimaru is just somewhat dumb specially if he know the experiments he was doing with other people and that sick stuff is has no comparison but maybee he wasnt fully aware of it to the extent that it was... Its not compared because tecnically Madara tecnically didnt kill anyone afte he left the village frmo the village cause Hashirama fcked him up and out side of it.
@foreighteen7797
@foreighteen7797 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama's approach with the Uchiha is an example of correctly identifying problems but wrongly identifying solutions. While he correctly understands that the Uchiha harbor a troubled history largely owing to their inborn abilities and can thus be unpredictable, he wrongly extrapolates that observation onto the entire clan and their future, expecting them to become a hazard unless corralled into a position where the village could manage and surveil them directly while still benefitting from their talents. The term "soft bigotry of low expectations" probably applies here. Had he allowed the Uchiha to attain any position in the village based on merit and character instead of forcing them into a ready-made role based on their surname, he would have successfully dispersed them across the various functions of the village and allowed them to integrate into the village with less stigma. Madara has a point when he says Hashirama has got his priorities upside down. As Hokage, Hashirama came to believe that the village is of supreme importance, somewhat forgetting that it's the bonds between the people of the village that really matter, and what made the village possible in the first place. This ideology of village supremacy would be shared by the rest of the villages and, eventually, reignite the flames of war.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
Na, tobirama was right to make them the police. See generally before the creation of police states like now, they were considered great honorable positions. The people already hated the uchiha, so by making them the law enforcement, it prevented legal discrimination against themand provided great opportunity to change the way they were perceived. Thata stupid smart, because in the old days, most laws were few and good, so they always seemed like they were stopping villans. That is, if they weren't corrupt. Were never told any details on what the uchiha had issue with, its vauge. The 1 issue was confinment....but they got to live with their people however they wanted, no discrimination, and ot was done because of the 9 tails attack, which was the fault of an uchiha. I know its deliberately vauge because its supposed to show that everybody is truly in the wrong and theirs no "oppressed people"bs, that its a symptom of the system, cycle of hatred and uchiha curse. This means we dont get enough satisfactory answers
@foreighteen7797
@foreighteen7797 Жыл бұрын
​@@bobbob-zc1nx The police are considered respectable only if they earned their position and when there are clear checks and balances to their power. Let's see: Take the second most powerful clan in your village. This clan was recently the ruling power's archenemy. Your village is relatively young. Aforementioned clan is suddenly given the vital position of law enforcement on the basis of their surname or crest. Also, this clan's previous head was the previous village leader's best friend, and the current village leader is the previous village leader's younger brother. Accusations of nepotism seem inevitable. Considering all of that, through which lens will the people likely predominantly perceive this clan, the lens of respect or the lens of fear? Here's an idea: How about appointing officials and recruiting people based on transparent tests that measure character and skill instead of ethnicity, sex, bloodline, or membership to any particular group? "The 1 issue was confinment....but they got to live with their people however they wanted, no discrimination" Being forced to live only in the space the government assigned to your family and relatives, regardless of whether you're a law abiding, productive citizen? Yup, no discrimination there. "and ot was done because of the 9 tails attack, which was the fault of an uchiha." You're a few decades off. The isolation of the Uchiha was implemented under Tobirama's rule. By the time of the 9-tails attack, Tobirama was long dead, and his successor was already an old man. Even if the attack had been the reason for their confinement, nobody knew Obito was behind it, and none of the Uchiha even knew of Obito's continued existence, which means the basis for the confinement would have been a rumor at best. Even if they'd known it was Obito, his actions wouldn't necessarily have reflected the views and goals of the clan. Without conclusive evidence that the Uchiha were in cahoots with Obito, punishing them in his stead would have been absolutely unjust.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
@foreighteen7797 bro you gotta summarize. Let me clarify. In the past most laws weren't bs arbitrary regulations that affected people's day to day like now. If it was illegal, it was probably heinous. So as a rule in most cultures police are looked up to. They created peace and order. Yes, they were discriminated against in 1 facet. Now go look at all the other laws throughout history that were placed on hated groups. The uchiha were guaranteed to be free of them all. The other clans didn't get the freedom the uchiha had, so they were above the law, simply by having a corner of the village to themselves and by being the cops. Nepotism was the point. Everyone hated the uchiha, so people would deliberately harass and selectively enforce laws against them if the police were based on tests. Tobirama wanted to make certain that the uchiha had political power in the village they founded IN SPITE OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Finally I was wrong on the timing, the uchiha had extra surveillance and less trust after the 9 tails incident. Rightfully because people knew the uchiha already had greivences and were mentally unstable and were the only group to control the 9 tails in the past. They knew it wasn't an accident. When dealing with the near destruction of your military power, you don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. The leaf is a military fortified city, so it's run just like any other military base.
@appy4401
@appy4401 Жыл бұрын
​​​​​​​​@@bobbob-zc1nx tobirama made uchiha police force in order to keep them away from governing body. He literally used anbu to spy on them. Btw anbu jobs and police jobs often clashed, creating problems thx to incompetency of tobirama, hiruzen. "In most cultures, police are looked upto". That doesn't happen in Japan. Learn some history. Orochimaru specifically stated "police are often hated by civilians." Uchihas weren't mentally unstable. Leaf government without any proof, forced a settlement of a group, in outskirts of village, isolated and spied them 24/7. Calling leaf "a military fortified city" (which it is), doesn't justify the discrimination. Senju and uchiha were founders of leaf. Uchiha literally rejected madara and chose hashirama as their leader. And then this is what they got in return.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
@appy4401 what? No he didn't. It's a literal governing body. They enforce or ignore laws. It's up to them to interpret on the spot, in the feild. It also doesn't prevent them from having other positions. It gives them a great position to be evaluated and seen by the public. What I said still stands, generally people looked up to the police. You could tell by tobiramas reaction to orochimarus words, he was surprised. But that's on the uchiha tbh, if their so bad at policing, then they'll be hated. Enforcing stupid laws, abusing power, attacking the innocent. But they can catch people in ocular genjutsu just by eye contact, perfect for cops.....so they probably earned the hatred they had
@jamesrawlz2853
@jamesrawlz2853 11 ай бұрын
When you realize that it wasn't the clashing between Hashirama and Madara the made the Final Valley but the sheer raw power of Hashirama's balls dragging across the earth
@jakelovell5882
@jakelovell5882 Жыл бұрын
Hashirama fucking smiled when he saw Kurama wrapped in a Susanno made by Madara. Dude wasn't called God of Shinobi for nothing
@Justin_Ebright
@Justin_Ebright Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. For a place named "The Final Valley" nothing "final" ever happens there. Might as well call it Shadowboxing Gorge or something.
@researchinbreeder
@researchinbreeder Жыл бұрын
Last fight of Shippuden spoilers: Ye by the time something Final happens there, it's not even a Valley anymore. Final Crater lol
@BrandonLung
@BrandonLung Жыл бұрын
😂
@LordZazas
@LordZazas Жыл бұрын
"His name was Kagami Uchiha" "Was he a Uchiha?" That has to be the fastest I've ever seen info forgotten.
@dearls921
@dearls921 Жыл бұрын
I read most of the latter part of naruto when it was coming out weekly, I will never forget how i felt when the hokage were shown standing onto their stone busts. Mainly because i still get the feeling today
@brandomiguelvergarainga6834
@brandomiguelvergarainga6834 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama is not that he hates the uchihas, what happens is that the uchihas are mentally unstable and can break the peace for anything, that is why when he is kage he gives them jobs as military police so that they do not feel rejected and have authority.
@brandomiguelvergarainga6834
@brandomiguelvergarainga6834 Жыл бұрын
If Tobirama really hated the Uchihas, he would have eliminated them when he was Hokage. Rather, he had them under control so that they would not fall into madness.
@CesOrealz
@CesOrealz 8 ай бұрын
If Tobirama hated Uchiha, he wouldn't have taken an Uchiha as his student. He just hates the instability of the Uchiha personality, and since childhood his brothers died from the hands of the Uchiha, I was even surprised when Tobirama became Hokage, he didn't destroy the Uchiha, He just did the rational thing by making the uchiha stay in the village, that way the possibility of an uchiha dying is very small, you know that if 1 uchiha dies, There will be someone who activates a dangerous sharingan. What made matters worse was that when the 3rd Hokage came to power, and Danzo became an elder, the Uchiha were immediately suppressed by Konoha elders from then on. Danzo, who wants power, aims for the sharingan.
@WhatsIQ
@WhatsIQ 8 күн бұрын
Exactly. I have no clue how people see the backstory then still get stuck on tobirama being racist
@grantisshananaa4906
@grantisshananaa4906 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama just has HUGE "If you're not fam, I don't fuck with you" energy.
@kaizukokage3yearsago70
@kaizukokage3yearsago70 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that their is "Someone" watching them at the top of Final Valley cliff😂😂
@AsperOkami
@AsperOkami Жыл бұрын
And that someone almost got too careless, would love a spin off where he's just a millisecond slower
@kenbow1290
@kenbow1290 Жыл бұрын
what ? who ? huh? help?
@AsperOkami
@AsperOkami Жыл бұрын
@@kenbow1290 Just a character that will bother later, Hashirama almost saw him and could've saved a bit of future time
@c3p6
@c3p6 Жыл бұрын
@@kenbow1290bruh did you watch the show
@raisulhasan6590
@raisulhasan6590 Жыл бұрын
bro, Tobirama wanted to follow whats best for the village, but madara only cared about his own clan and own plan, he didnt saw the whole village as his family. Later even the uchiha clan members didnt support him over Hashirama, even they realised who will be the better leader,
@Faxityy
@Faxityy Жыл бұрын
Tobiramas intentions were good but the way he actually acted on things was not. His actions helped cause this. If you can't see that there's no help for you sir🫡
@vivekkumar-jb1tb
@vivekkumar-jb1tb Жыл бұрын
​@@Faxityybruh what?? It's like I am just a murderer I am doing my job... It's your fault you are getting killed by me 😂😂....
@mohamedlaminediakhaby1458
@mohamedlaminediakhaby1458 Жыл бұрын
tobirama himself removed the uchiha from the village by literally locking them up in some sort of camps lol even after Madara's death lol
@OlaneaSpirit
@OlaneaSpirit Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedlaminediakhaby1458 No he didn't.
@Pharo02
@Pharo02 Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedlaminediakhaby1458 No, they got their own district. They didn't go into camps like jews did
@p.gin3955
@p.gin3955 Жыл бұрын
20:52 Homie missed this part, that's why its important to listen and not talk lol
@CineQu
@CineQu Жыл бұрын
I guess he know it cuz it was mentioned couple of times, if he dont know it sooooo Faxity, how dare you lmao
@p.gin3955
@p.gin3955 Жыл бұрын
@@CineQu It was mentioned only one time previously, during the danzo fight, and I'm pretty sure he didn't pay attention even then 😅
@Faxityy
@Faxityy Жыл бұрын
What part? There's nothing on that timestamp
@p.gin3955
@p.gin3955 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxityy about Karin being an Uzumaki, I thought it went over your head cause there wasn't any reaction or comment on it, most reactor are usually surprised even though it was said before...
@CineQu
@CineQu Жыл бұрын
@@FaxityyHe was talking about that Karin is from Uzumaki Clan like Naruto and Kushina (red hair)
@esabuu1.046
@esabuu1.046 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama say Uchihas are unpredictable! and what does Madara do? turns his back on the village proving Tobirama was right! and is kind of true people from the village didn’t like Madara at all. Not even the Uchihas like hik! so blaming Tobirama for Madara ain’t right.
@HYPERMAN__
@HYPERMAN__ Жыл бұрын
Tobirama Own Actions caused this to happen. If Tobirama didn't Interfere and Let Hashirama handle the Things Things would have Gone Way Different. Madara's stand isn't Wrong here Either he turned his Back because everyone already was against him including his own Clan. Madara guessed Future events Correctly and Knew even if he stays with Hashirama After their Death No one will be left there to stop His own Clan Eventual Demise in Future. Madara understood that In the End there is No real point in tightly Holding things in place Togather, So Madara Decided to Let go of Everything and Find some other way. Which then Madara Got from the Uchiha Stone tablet, he sees it as a better Alternative viable Option for Peace. All of this Would not have happened if Tobirama didn't interfere in between. Not to Forget like Orochimaru said all the Jutsus that Tobirama created only Raised to More problems and Conflicts down the line. Which is also True.
@OlaneaSpirit
@OlaneaSpirit Жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMAN__ What? No one would have liked Madara to be Hokage. He is a warmonger and even his own clan didn't want him to be Hokage. Madara literally caused the downfall of the Uchiha when he brainwashed Obito thus leading to the Kyuubi attack and the distrust of the Uchiha clan. Madara isn't just some blameless innocent angel like you seem to picture in your head.
@Pharo02
@Pharo02 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Tobirama is the only one who thinks logical. Madara and Hashirama think with emotions
@Pharo02
@Pharo02 Жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMAN__ Well, we all know who is really to blame but we can't write spoilers
@RickSoldier0fGod
@RickSoldier0fGod Жыл бұрын
%100 facts madara is a crybaby who didn't get what he wanted and tried to destroy the world because of it
@petrkubik810
@petrkubik810 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama had no ill will when he started Uchiha police, imagine dangerous individuals causing havoc in the ninja univers, what is the best way to deal with than someone who can pretty much effortlessly cast genjutsu upon them. Minimize damage to surroundings and thanks to the insightful eye also predict what the individual going to do next. Will he threaten civilians, will he do some large scale ninjutsu?
@LifeBitByBit
@LifeBitByBit Жыл бұрын
Faxityy, hope there's no way you'll take more than a day to upload an hour long reaction for next episodes. Looking forward to it
@DasHeino2010
@DasHeino2010 Жыл бұрын
XD
@ArgKnoxville86
@ArgKnoxville86 Жыл бұрын
You uderstand that now that we know that Danzo had Shisui's eye, it is quite plausible that he was manipulating the elders?
@BrandonLung
@BrandonLung Жыл бұрын
I never thought of that 😂😂😂
@samariaclarke1741
@samariaclarke1741 9 ай бұрын
That thought did occur to me as well!!
@damyan108
@damyan108 Жыл бұрын
I am tired of people not understanding Tobirama's actions. I don't even want to wast my time explaining it anymore.
@metarex000
@metarex000 Жыл бұрын
Bro explain it for me. I wanna hear ur viewpoint.
@ulysses5439
@ulysses5439 Жыл бұрын
mood
@metarex000
@metarex000 Жыл бұрын
@@Glyceraldehyde I mean I get your points but I dont agree with everything. What caused Madara to attack Hashirama and the village again was mostly Tobirama`s fault. Democracy is not how the world should work. Madara wouldnt have went down the dark path if it werent for everyone who beared ill feelings towards him. Sorry but Tobirama is the dumbest Hokage in my eyes. Uchihas are normal people. Just like everyone else. Everyone feels love and hate that way.
@souvikghosh5768
@souvikghosh5768 3 ай бұрын
Prepared madara+ Prime Nine tails
@Nolaqueenari
@Nolaqueenari Жыл бұрын
Great video ! Glad to be here first keep going !!!
@Kevnmusicc
@Kevnmusicc 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact : Kishimoto himself said that one punch of that thousand armed kan'on was equivilent to a mini tailed beast bomb.
@Deathnote-ur4vh
@Deathnote-ur4vh 9 ай бұрын
And it's not mini it riveled jubbi bomb with small sword of susanoo. It's far powerful than normal rasenshuriken
@sreeramajithkumar6760
@sreeramajithkumar6760 Жыл бұрын
Bro, there is no use for the elders dying, or even Danzo, another would merge in the place. What should change is the people's belief, like Tobirama is not wrong, the whole war itself is caused due to the 2 uchihas, Madara and Obito. And even Sasuke is a menace to the society.
@joaopaulo3204
@joaopaulo3204 Жыл бұрын
the ending in this epi is so fuckin hype dude, so Fuckin Sick
@hokagerealm
@hokagerealm Жыл бұрын
Dont think that Tobirama is bad guy. He did much more great things for the village too
@digitaladventurer2142
@digitaladventurer2142 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Hashirama and Tobirama reminded me of The 3rd Hokage and Danzo though I admit Danzo took things more over the line then Tobirama.
@_Seru_
@_Seru_ Жыл бұрын
Tobirama is a less evil version of Danzo. Still was racist though.
@hokagerealm
@hokagerealm Жыл бұрын
@@_Seru_ He was NOT Racist. Do you know what even racist means? Plus if he is racist why he had Uchiha student?!
@_Seru_
@_Seru_ Жыл бұрын
@@hokagerealm He was. He claims he treated "everyone" who posed a danger with extreme caution and yet he specifically targeted the Uchiha clan and pushed them to the outskirts of the village. One exception doesn't change that. And no, the previous war doesn't entirely justify his racism, considering Hashirama who went through the same things had no ill will towards the Uchiha.
@supercereal1
@supercereal1 Жыл бұрын
@@hokagerealmdo you know the meaning? The only way to say Tobirama wasn’t a racist is by saying the uchiha aren’t a race. If you’re going to say that then tobirama is a bigot. Look up the definition of things before you speak lmao
@LamirLakantry
@LamirLakantry Жыл бұрын
Karin going right back to Sasuke ruined whatever was left of her character.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
W for realism i guess........
@c3p6
@c3p6 Жыл бұрын
People really try to hate on Tobirama and call him a racist, etc. for being wary of the Uchiha and the dangers of the Sharingan. As if three of the main antagonists of the series who wanted world domination werent literally Uchiha lol
@appy4401
@appy4401 Жыл бұрын
Sasuke didn't want world domination lmao. Read chapters again. His revolution plan involved being enemy of the whole world for eternity so they stay united forever.
@c3p6
@c3p6 Жыл бұрын
@@appy4401 “world domination” aka “rule the world”. His goal was still to control and rule the shinobi world by disciplining them with fear
@appy4401
@appy4401 Жыл бұрын
@@c3p6 again he wasn't going to "rule", "dictate". He wanted to united them by fear for eternity. And how's that wrong?
@c3p6
@c3p6 Жыл бұрын
@@appy4401 bruh it’s semantics. He wanted to have the world under his control, whether directly or indirectly. He wanted to unite them by fear, but in doing so he would keep them in check and watch over them; effectively “ruling over them”
@appy4401
@appy4401 Жыл бұрын
@@c3p6 ruling over them means he's making laws and enforcing it. But he's not. The monarchs will still be handling affairs. It's just that the world will have common enemy, thus uniting them. Also, how exactly is this wrong according to your og comment? Is this more evil than forced settlement, supporting slavery, committing war crimes causing mass starvation in small nations, genociding group including innocent children, causing wars in small nation for money which konoha has been doing? Btw I just mentioned the crimes of the best village out of 5 big nations. Things are worse there.
@carloscanchola5655
@carloscanchola5655 Жыл бұрын
The full fight for the final valley is in Ultimate Ninja Storm 4. It’s canon to the anime as well.
@LifeBitByBit
@LifeBitByBit Жыл бұрын
I eat slow and these 15-20 min reaction videos leave me with my food half way through. not fair. upload longer ones please.
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama was definitely the reason that made Madara lose hope. That and the Uchiha tablet that gave him the motivation to pursue and achieve a new darker dream. Although it wasn't only because of Tobirama but he made Madara realize that if Tobirama could still feel resentment toward him, it could be and would be the same for other people toward him and the Uchiha clan. That's what disillusioned him and made him understand the Uchihas were only tolerated by Hashirama and a part of the village. Anger and fear were still in people's hearts. Madara is clearly the more rational type so it naturally devasted him and made him come to the probably too radical conclusion that real peace was simply impossible despite the end of the wars. Hashirama was more hopeful but also too idealistic so he overshadowed people's actual feelings of resentment against the Uchiha clan. It's so tragic because Tobirama's attitude is very understandable, the Uchihas killed his brother but the dude just wasn't able to forget and live a peaceful life because he would see his former mortal enemies everywhere and every day. But it's this same resentment, anger and doubtful attitude that led to Madara's own hatred. Also there was the constant fear of the Sharingan because it can control Kurama, which is always a risk for the village. It's such a complicated but also very realistic problem. Hiruzen definitely messed up on every level though. Even when Minato looks at Hiruzen, you know something should be said about Naruto and how he treated him terribly. It became even worse with Itachi when the Uchihas decided to actually revolt against the village because the menace was now real.
@JavanteDodds
@JavanteDodds Жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone finally said this correctly. While Tobirama created inequities for the Uchiha (for understandable reason, but still unjust, I mean you’re not going to be buddies with the guys who slaughtered your family, cmon guys), the Uchiha still sowed their own fate. They did not have to set up a coupe and try to overthrow the Hokage! Tobirama cannot be held solely responsible for their actions. They made that choice (which Hiruzen should’ve tried harder to stop). Everyone seems to try to absolve Hashirama (because he’s the cool guy) but it is partially because of his naïveté that caused this too. As Tobirama stated, just because Madara is your BFF doesn’t mean you can just unilaterally make him Hokage. Hashirama was boldly blinded by his dream and his friendship. It was not until their final valley battle that he came to begin to realize that he was always giving Madara a pass. He even still didn’t fully get it until he was reanimated. Madara being exactly like Tobirama instead of being the bigger person is equally as guilty. Two wrongs don’t make a right. He could’ve easily tried to democratically work it out with Hashirama (during the stone tablet scene) and I believe even Tobirama could’ve been reasoned with but instead chose to be hard headed! The three of them are ALL part of the problem. To be honest, Hokages 1-3 + Madara all played a bad hand. Thats it from me. lol Thanks for listening to me rant. 😅
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Жыл бұрын
That's totally true! Tobirama is just very realistic at the end of the day. His reasons are understandable. You're not going to be friend with the guy who slaughtered your family, but yet that's what Hashirama authentically tried to do because it was the only way. At least get rid of the anger if not friends. It was just harder for Tobirama on his side just like it was for Madara. They're very similar in the end. The Uchihas still have their part of responsibility in this. Itachi wouldn't have had to murder them all if they could have let go of their rebellion cause he was capable of seeing the full picture and not simply stay on the side of his own clan and family. But even the Uchihas are understandable. They were treated differently because of their terrifying powers and potential for destruction. Obito will reinforce the fears of the village against the clan by destroying the entire village and manipulating Kurama. Hiruzen should definitely have tried harder. But in the same way, at the same time I can't totally blame him. He was just one men who inherited this whole situation and Danzo was acting in the shadows at the same time. I think nobody would have liked to be in his position. It was so much to handle. But he left everything on Itachi which is clearly unacceptable too. I think most people try to excuse Hashirama because in the end, despite everything, he had the right mindset contrary to others and even his own village. But the problem is he was such an ideal to reach and others couldn't be as strong as he was and let go of their past to live in peace so easily. Even for Tobirama, he just couldn't endure as much as his big brother. Same for Madara. Hashirama's error was to naively believe that others could simply forgive for a better future like he was able to. He should have been more attentive to how Tobirama felt and discuss about Madara and the Uchiha clan with him. But it's Itachi who gave us the answer to Hashirama's biggest mistake. The hokage should be decided by the people and not be promoted to then win people's trust. They accepted Hashirama as their hokage because he worked so hard for his dream of peace and did so much for the people who live in Konoha. It wasn't the case for Madara yet. He had to win people's trust through his actions first. Hashirama naively believed that everyone would accept Madara simply because he would become the hokage. It was probably too complicated to understand for Hashirama and Madara at the time. There was no hokage prior to that after all. As soon as Madara had read the stone tablet, it was already almost too late because he lost hope for peace in Konoha and had a new more seducing objective in mind. Tobirama was the one who provided harsh realities to Hashirama to shoulder him but he also needed to believe and be more hopeful and chill himself. He was so hard headed in nature but I'm sure his brother could have reasoned him too if he could have been more attentive to the fact that Tobirama and people with a similar mindset by extension were a part of the problem. All the hokages + Madara definitely have their part of responsibility in this story, even Hashirama even though he had the best intentions. It was nice to hear and I understand where you're coming from, even though I can also understand people's reasons for excusing Hashirama but it's still injust too 😊.
@appy4401
@appy4401 Жыл бұрын
​@@JavanteDodds wtf? Uchihas and senjus both killed each other. If uchihas can keep their past aside, why can't tobirama, the fking hokage, do the same? Uchiha rejected madara as their leader and chose hashirama. What did they get in return? Getting relocated to outskirts of village. "Uchihas shouldn't have staged a coup and try to overthrow hokage". Why not? The government kept discriminating, isolating them since tobirama's tyranny. Being forced to live in outskirts of village, completely isolated and getting spied on by anbu. Leaf government was clearly corrupt and deserved to be overthrown.
@evansphenomenal
@evansphenomenal 2 ай бұрын
Tobirama's problem was never about the Uchiha killing his family.
@evansphenomenal
@evansphenomenal 2 ай бұрын
​@@appy4401Danzo pushed them away
@davidjacobs7465
@davidjacobs7465 Жыл бұрын
There is no singular reason as to how things came to be. Multiple factors make up the events. Madara's plan, Tobirama's good intentions but not so good exections, Obito's existance, Hiruzen not truly stepping up as hokage in political devides, Minato's death (as he said he would have tried to avoid it if he were still alive)... On the topic of Minato, isn't it a bit weird that Sasuke had nothing to say to him or ask of him?
@Bailgxer
@Bailgxer Жыл бұрын
Well, that makes sense. Minato was Hokage just for a couple of years, maybe five, and really didn't nothing important for the village in that time in terms of Politic and village wellness. The other threee Hokage besides have ruled for several years, going through three wars and lived so many life experience that Minato can't keep on. Remember, Minato died probably 27 or less. Hashirama died in is old age, same has Hiruzen. Tobirama probably around is 40.
@0predaking0
@0predaking0 Жыл бұрын
Hashirama already revelead why he was able ro defeat Madara, his techniques to abosrb chakra, to gather Sage chakra, and that Golem to mobilize in the battle field meanwhile he gather more chakra and his Buddah of ten Thousand Hands, meanwhile Madara was counting dowm to zero
@MrHyruIe
@MrHyruIe Жыл бұрын
The little scared girl was the future wife of the third hokage
@idolized
@idolized Жыл бұрын
to answer your question im pretty sure Madara lived because if im not mistaken his mangekyo can rewind time no? or was it Izanagi and he some how time gated it to activate at a certain time. Im not 100 percent sure but i think it was along those lines.
@panjipewe
@panjipewe Жыл бұрын
He use izanagi...
@jonikalemasi3062
@jonikalemasi3062 Жыл бұрын
His Sharingan control was so insane that he Used a time activated izanagi....He literally died.... Like actually died but before he activated a Time based izanagi that activated hours after his death.....Yeah HE IS THAT FUCKING guy....
@idolized
@idolized Жыл бұрын
@@jonikalemasi3062 ok yeah, i wasnt sure if it was a time gated izi or his mangekyo.
@ajddf2227
@ajddf2227 Жыл бұрын
​​@@jonikalemasi3062still don't know how he does it bcs that's not how Izanagi works so it seems like a plot hole to me or not a plot hole but rather flaw in writing
@Vyalkuran
@Vyalkuran Жыл бұрын
​@@ajddf2227 The flaw can be explained by the fact that he activated izanagi during the battle regardless of the outcome, and since he was a full-fledged uchiha unlike danzo, he could cover more timespan with a single izanagi cast, whereas danzo had 1 minute per eye. So think of it like this: - uchiha blood = more izanagi time, but lots of years to wait for a recast. - senju blood = less izanagi time, but faster recovery for a recast.
@WhatsIQ
@WhatsIQ 8 күн бұрын
I will never understand how people can watch the backstory then blame tobirama when he literally didn't do anything..
@PepeULT
@PepeULT Жыл бұрын
tobirama wrong way to act ? brother what else would you do ? you have only L takes constantly. you should stop yapping at this point and just watch. just dont react
@HYPERMAN__
@HYPERMAN__ Жыл бұрын
Tobirama actions were indeed wrong literally there are already many other videos on KZbin explaining the Same exact thing like How things would have NEVER gotten so Worse if Tobirama just didn't Interfere. Not to forget Tobirama is like this due to his Past Incident that gave him a Permanent Hate against the entire Uchiha Clan. If that Past Incident never happened Tobirama Decision making ideology would have been Completely Different.
@Pharo02
@Pharo02 Жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMAN__ Rightfully so, even Itachi and Shisui thought like Tobirama
@PepeULT
@PepeULT Жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMAN__ doesnt matter what some youtubers say. Thats not coming from the mangaka. These baseless opinions. Read between the lines of what kishimoto says. Both hiruzen and tobirama did the right thing. Even minato says it here. Everyone looking at it in hindsight. Weirdos
@PepeULT
@PepeULT Жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMAN__ never gotten worse ??? Are you ok ? Madara was waiting for someone to manipulate and it happened to be obito. It would have gotten worse no matter what. Thats the uchiha curse i dont get how you dont get it.
@HYPERMAN__
@HYPERMAN__ Жыл бұрын
@@PepeULT Oh Really? Doing things that will Eventually lead an Entire clan to Demise is a Good thing? Ok lets just say Hypothetically we found out that there are Different Civilization of living beings all across the Universe. And there is a chance that Earth may eventually become a Potential threat to them. So they Started doing things that eventually led to Complete Annihilation of Earth and all the Humans. So would you still consider those other Civilizations "Oh they did the Right thing because there is a Potential Chance that we are a Threat to them " It's basically this same thing on a smaller scale. You will always consider and Judge a person right until you aren't the one on the Receiving end of Suffering. What Tobirama did lead to The Annihilation of an Entire Clan which also has Countless Children too..
@ila83
@ila83 Жыл бұрын
Most of y’all reactors dispositions on Tobirama are really hilarious . The 2 main antagonist in this series are Uchia’s responsible for mass genocide further proving tobirama’s point of unpredictability yet you guys arrive to the conclusion that all this is his fault 😂🤣🤣. Y’all never mention how he created the flying ryjin jutsu , shadow clone jutsu , started the chunin exams and ninja rank systems , encouraged to stop inbreeding among clans to strengthen the village as a whole rather than just clans but when it comes to him stating facts on the UCHIA that’s where y’all draw the line ?? Comedy
@evansphenomenal
@evansphenomenal 2 ай бұрын
What's even more ironic is that the supposed Uchiha hater knew more Uchiha like Itachi than Itachi's brother himself. Sadly many of those Uchiha died with Tobirama a long time ago.
@da12n3
@da12n3 Жыл бұрын
20:55 did he miss the relations part?
@ItsHalvar
@ItsHalvar Жыл бұрын
Orochimaru Redemption arc and i'm here for it
@brtruev1710
@brtruev1710 6 ай бұрын
Funny that, to this day, people can't seem to either let go of their fanboyism towards the Uchiha (even when they did many unsavory things with no prompt from anyone - though Kishimoto went out of his way to present them as the biggest victims of the story) or still try to use the old "oppressed vs oppressors" in order to explain the massacre. So let's analyze things from a very objective point, using only what the manga/anime gives us: 1- Tobirama hated the Uchiha No, he didn't. He even had a trusted Uchiha subordinate, Kagami. But coming from the era of Warring States, of course he hadn't completely forgotten how the Uchiha can be nasty at their worst. Plus, Hashirama wanted to outright make Madara Hokage by himself, while Tobirama points out that, as a village, they need to decide things democratically. Hashirama alone shouldn't determine who's supposed to become Hokage. Plus Madara was basically eavesdropping a private conversation between two brothers. He wasn't exactly in the right. 2- The Police Force was made to subjugate the Uchiha No, it wasn't. There's not even a shred of evidence to prove that, and the sources who claim it was aren't the most unbiased themselves (Orochimaru had an axe to grind with the village for the longest time, so you can't take his word at face value). Plus they operated extremely well up until the Nine-Tails attack (which, like it or not, it *was* caused by an Uchiha). 3- Madara was slighted Again, he wasn't. Remember Oonoki's flashback, when Madara goes directly behind Hashirama's orders and outright states the Stone will submit and he shouldn't even say Hashirama's name within earshot of him? That already implies Madara was undermining Hashirama from behind the scenes (since, at the very least, that scene is supposed to happen before Madara leaves the village, considering he was still wearing his headband at that time). Again, he was even eavesdropping a private conversation. And Tobirama didn't even say something offensive; he only confirmed that, as a democracy, people should choose the Hokage. As he pointed out, even the Uchiha members weren't on board with Madara's plans. The whole mess started when Madara himself started attacking the village as a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy. 4- The Uchiha Massacre was X's fault No. There were a lot of factors contributing to that. Between Madara's attacks, Tobirama's policies, Hiruzen's inability to be stern when he needed to be, Danzou's schemes, Obito's latest attack on the village, it was bound to happen. The Uchiha clan was already gung ho about taking over the village while Fugaku was trying his damnedest to rein them in. The Elders only decided for the extermination when it was clear there was no way around it, and the Uchiha were, indeed, willing to get bloody. While Danzou didn't help matters, Itachi's handling of the situation wasn't exactly graceful, either. He claimed that he didn't kill Sasuke due to him being a child and not into the plans, so are we led to believe every other child of the clan was in the plan? Also he decided to ask for Obito's help, who already had an ax to grind with both clan and village and, indirectly, allowed him to obtain a ton of eyes for his laboratory under a promise of not attacking the village. Well, we've seen how well that turned out to be. Problem is, people are too quick to whitewash any heinous actions the Uchiha committed during the series due to rule of cool and Draco in leather pants. For someone who wanted his brother to be a hero, Itachi didn't have any problem beating him up and putting him into Tsukuyomi twice, undoing any mental healing he was undergoing as a member of team 7. Obito also did a lot of uncalled for things like killing the original Akatsuki members, killing Konan and pushing Sasuke even deeper into evil. Sasuke himself ditched his whole team and even tried to kill Karin. Yet most of these actions are either ignored or glossed over because people still adhere to "the Uchiha were oppressed" malarkey.
@hazembentaher5165
@hazembentaher5165 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@christopherhamilton4373
@christopherhamilton4373 Жыл бұрын
Anything Yamato can do hashirama can better. His wood style contributed to the building of the leaf.
@רזאלפסי-ק9ת
@רזאלפסי-ק9ת Жыл бұрын
Madara is my favorite characterin the show, and Hashirama is only a bit behind him
@dungeondude0729
@dungeondude0729 Жыл бұрын
Hey could you go through and fix you Playlist for this series a lot of the episodes in the 80's to 100's are out of order
@jaimeparra3331
@jaimeparra3331 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama was right.
@dmarjuna3643
@dmarjuna3643 Жыл бұрын
Cannot wait you react episod 375
@metarex000
@metarex000 Жыл бұрын
Bro its not Hashirama`s fault Madara is alive again. He killed him back then. Reanimation Jutsu just happens to exists.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
No madra used izanagi to live. Madra lost on purpose and left his real actual corps to be buried. So they buried a body that kabuto later experimented with. Madra also was living in a cave simultaneously
@metarex000
@metarex000 Жыл бұрын
Bro we already knew that. That was not my point.. @@bobbob-zc1nx
@hussein00z38
@hussein00z38 Жыл бұрын
hurry with the other episodesss
@starplus1890
@starplus1890 Жыл бұрын
For full MadaravHashi go watch the storm battle for the full experience although abit exaggerated
@tyshawnstith958
@tyshawnstith958 Жыл бұрын
I was like where is the subtitles I can’t hear them they not speaking loud enough
@sergiu2325
@sergiu2325 4 ай бұрын
I think Danzo manipulated Koharu and Homura when making the decisions to fuck the Uchiha.
@pierreelliott2379
@pierreelliott2379 4 ай бұрын
Hashirama is the asshole. He could of relinquished the throne. He had a bother Madera didnt
@_iambuck
@_iambuck Жыл бұрын
I know he missed the Uzumaki reference 😪
@deadmanThorTempest
@deadmanThorTempest Жыл бұрын
mantap
@josephshonnghihulifwa6270
@josephshonnghihulifwa6270 Жыл бұрын
see ya 2morrow 4 sure
@One007
@One007 Жыл бұрын
Simple put every one in Naruto is biased towards their belief system and others. If you want true' peace we all must protect one another that is when true peace come. But when everyone is after for themselves or family or neighbours and community and national levels but we all still hasn't reach to All of the our Spices.
@bobbob-zc1nx
@bobbob-zc1nx Жыл бұрын
People have agendas with opposing goals and values. Therefore there will never be peace, there SHOULD never be peace either. Add in corruption, ignorance, mistakes and the fact humans are evil by default, peace isnt even theoretically possible. Which is a good thing, peace isnt that good.
@bewilderedbear
@bewilderedbear Жыл бұрын
Tobirama is the root cause of just about every bad thing in this show if you really think about it. Danzo basically copied his way of thinking off him.
@TheRealHypervizor
@TheRealHypervizor Жыл бұрын
Man, you always look away and miss important small details that are "cool lore connections". If you're gonna watch the sub version you can't keep looking away and missing text. Tobi mentioning Karin's chakra and red hair being an Uzumaki was supposed to be a "wait a second" moment. Karin, Kushina, and Nagato are all Uzumaki's and Karin is the last living purebred Uzumaki.
@jamesrendon8142
@jamesrendon8142 Жыл бұрын
Goat
@victorgarcia7330
@victorgarcia7330 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail looks sus
@OldFolkz
@OldFolkz Жыл бұрын
The most tragic part about this is Madara actually did want the village just as much as Hashirama yet izuna made him promise not too.. then madara goes against that and ends up being a naruto leveled outcast in a village he helped found. History probably would have been different if not for tobirama's meddling and the all the villagers including the uchiha being afraid of and avoiding someone that wanted to protect them. Imo anybody wouldve abandoned the village in those conditions. Especially with rhe tobirama thing. Your brothers murderer really just talked your only friend into back tracking on making madara hokage. All of the villagers suspicion and hatred for madara never stopped then he had the hokage title dangled in front of him to only realize the Uchiha would be eventually exterminated if they stay... which eventually passed because they betrayed madara when he tried to warn them.
@romarhernandez41
@romarhernandez41 Жыл бұрын
Reinforcements commin
@apus.k.t7424
@apus.k.t7424 Жыл бұрын
19 min ago 😮😅
@grammeland1
@grammeland1 Жыл бұрын
Tobirama was the Ultimate racist, if there was anything you can mess up about race, he did it.
@xibangs
@xibangs Жыл бұрын
how was he racist if hes right arm (or protection group) had an skilled uchiha
@grammeland1
@grammeland1 Жыл бұрын
@@xibangs just because you have a person of other race as your underling dosent mean you arent racist
@OlaneaSpirit
@OlaneaSpirit Жыл бұрын
The Uchiha aren't a race in the first place.
@ajddf2227
@ajddf2227 Жыл бұрын
​@@OlaneaSpiritHow come? Based of what we know we can assume they are a race
@grammeland1
@grammeland1 Жыл бұрын
@@OlaneaSpirit If people with black skin Are a different race to people with white skin then the Uchiha is also a different race
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