Dr. Thomas Bond's Jack The Ripper Offender Profile.

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in late October, 1888, with it become more than apparent that the police were no closer to catching Jack the Ripper than they had been when the murders began, Dr. Robert Anderson, the head of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Metropolitan Police, wrote to Dr. Thomas Bond to ask him if the murderer had displayed any medical knowledge.
He enclosed the reports from the inquests into the four victims who had been murdered up to that point.
On the 9th of November, Jack the Ripper struck again and murdered Mary Kelly, in Miller's Court, off Dorset Street in Spitalfields.
Dr Bond spent much of that afternoon conducting a post mortem examination of Mary Kelly's body, and the next day (the 10th of November) he replied to Anderson's query.
His report established the idea of the canonical five victims that is often still adhered to today.
In addition, Bond also gave his opinion as to what sort of person the murderer was. In so doing, he created one of the earliest examples of criminal profiling.
This video takes a close look at Dr. Thomas Bond's profile of the Whitechapel murderer.

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@Cyprusg21
@Cyprusg21 Жыл бұрын
The difficult part about forming an accurate profile for Jack The Ripper is that there's never been another killer like him. You won't find another serial killer who killed using blitz-style attacks in relatively public areas, took body parts for trophies, didn't commit SA, and mutilated to the degree Jack did with Mary Jane Kelly. He was like a mix of Peter Sutcliffe, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
@DoctorBastard
@DoctorBastard Жыл бұрын
The closest example I can think of is the Austin murderer, who of course some folks suspect was also the ripper.
@YortOK
@YortOK Жыл бұрын
The difference however is that those three only stopped because they were caught. JTR stopped of his own accord and disappeared into history.
@adelecurry7405
@adelecurry7405 Жыл бұрын
You're right - that's why I really can't believe that there was another serial killer operating at the same time, in the same area, and on the same type of victim as the one who did the canonical five murders.
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 Жыл бұрын
If Bill James and Rachel McCarthy James are right in their book ”The Man from the Train”, there may have been a very prolific, and violent, serial killer in the US between 1898 to 1912. He killed entire families, including the Villisca axe murders. Regardless, it’s an interesting book as well as an interesting theory.
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 Жыл бұрын
@@YortOK To be fair, there’s nothing that says JTR actually stopped. What we know is that he stopped his murderous tour in Whitechapel, England. He may very well have moved his business elsewhere in the world. It’s extremely rare that serial killers stop altogether. BTK stopped for a number of years but then continued his work until he got caught. The Zodiac may have stopped, then again he stated that his kills would appear as accidents in the future. Several serial killers have never been caught but they may have changed scenery and dumping grounds, LISK is one such recent case that may have a viable suspect now. There may be one or several Serial killers operating in BC, Canada along The Highway of Tears. But it’s still quite rare that serial killers stop killing on their own accord. The Texarkana Moonlight Murders is a mysterious case were the serial killer simply disappeared as well. Now I’m just rambling. Sorry ‘bout that.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 Жыл бұрын
I admire Dr Bond. He stuck his neck out making the educated presumptions. He was a trailblazer. I think he was close. About Mary Kelly’s being naked. I think we need to take what he said into Victorian context. A woman with a ripped open nightgown and in a humiliating position. For them, that must have been considered naked. He also was involved in examining some of the remains of the victims of the Thames Torso murders. As always, brilliant video, Rich!
@tarhunta2111
@tarhunta2111 7 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@SubPablum
@SubPablum 2 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, he might have meant naked as being exposed.
@One.DeSanctis.
@One.DeSanctis. Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. The production and content are always top notch on this channel.
@chrischibnall593
@chrischibnall593 Жыл бұрын
I've read an argument somewhere that although it appears that the killer had some anatomical knowledge, the incisions do not follow the patterns of any standard surgical procedures of the time: it is there fore more likely that he was a slaughterman or butcher than a medical doctor or surgeon.
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 Жыл бұрын
He could for instance have been a former medical student who dropped out, or an assistant to a field surgeon in some war. The British Empire was involved in plenty of wars at the time (assuming JTR was British to begin with).
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn Жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed! I'm a wee bit surprised that Dr. Bond claimed the murderer had no medical knowledge, given that others had reported the opposite. It was also odd that he described Mary Kelly's body as being naked. Fascinating stuff! Many thanks :)
@Wayne-p9i
@Wayne-p9i Жыл бұрын
Richard comes across as a very likeable chap. Great content too. Subscribed. I was hoping you would consider doing a video on the fairly new suspect Hyam Hyams. The one thing that interests me is that several documentaries state that Mary Kelly was murdered with an axe and a knife. Hyams was pulled in for attacking his wife and mother with an axe. Also he had a damaged left arm and walked with a very pronounced gait. There's more connections too many to go into here but hopefully we'll see a vid on him.
@darrenmaguire2979
@darrenmaguire2979 Жыл бұрын
Love your research Richard 👍🇮🇪
@JuliaIndomita
@JuliaIndomita Жыл бұрын
The Victorians really wrote and spoke beautifully. Thanks for your excellent videos which are also beautifully made.
@Smasheditin66
@Smasheditin66 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as usual ! Interesting that Thomas Bond failed to notice/report one of the victims was not naked ! I don’t think Thomas Bond brought the police any closer to either the identity or personality of the Ripper, but intriguing nevertheless.
@itsjohndell
@itsjohndell Жыл бұрын
A most excellent video and IMHO Dr. Bond added much to the profile of Jack. And added more to the never ending ephemera of the mystery.. I hold no belief that his actual identity will ever be known, factually.
@filmbuff2777
@filmbuff2777 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
@perlefisker
@perlefisker Жыл бұрын
Very interesting - and peculiar - especially the part pertaining the anatomical knowledge. I don't know how thoroughly this topic has been examined, but given the otherwise detailed description, could he be right? (Who established the narrative that the White Chapel murderer was skilled with a knife?) I wouldn't consider the statement about the victims nakedness to be altogether incorrect. Couldn't it be that to Mr. Bond, wearing a chemise was equal to being 'quite naked'? In any case, thank you for yet another good video.
@janetpendlebury6808
@janetpendlebury6808 Жыл бұрын
But being a doctor, and making an official statement, you would think he would know the difference between stating she was naked, and being almost naked.
@YortOK
@YortOK Жыл бұрын
I don't think he had formal knowledge of anatomy. I think he probably had a brooding interest in anatomy connected to his fantasies of killing and sought out sources of information about anatomy.
@perlefisker
@perlefisker Жыл бұрын
@@janetpendlebury6808 What I mean is that according to his personal (Victorian) standards of decency, wearing a chemise only could be regarded 'quite naked'☺
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
Mitre Square, literally minutes, in the dark, unaided. Unskilled person with sharp blade would do more damage to themselves than to the victim.
@bkohatl
@bkohatl Жыл бұрын
They found him, Aaron Kosminski, was as predicted by FBI Profilers, Douglas, Ressler and Hazelwood, to be a resident of Whitechapel, who blended in with other people who lived there. His family knew of his absence during the time of these crimes and may have suspected him. He probably experienced some sexual trauma when he was younger with a prostitute, which foster a profound hate of them. He probably was mentally ill, with escalating insanity/mental illness. Aaron Kosminski, a barber/hair dresser, is believed to have caught a venereal disease from a prostitute when he was 14/15-years-old. He was committed to a mental hospital, Colney Hatch shortly after the murders. He was identified, the only person identified, by an eyewitness.
@johnmartin7158
@johnmartin7158 10 ай бұрын
Kosminski has to be the top of the list for sure. The profilers you have named are some of the best in the business. As the world of AI and AI computers exponentially advance, they will help in solving old crimes and new ones.
@stevenblomer7738
@stevenblomer7738 Жыл бұрын
Good video Richard, as always
@dermotkelly6946
@dermotkelly6946 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, will watch tonight 👍
@paullucas3684
@paullucas3684 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that the profiling adopted by Steve Keogh, former Scotland Yard Murder Detective, he thought Martha Tabram was a victim of JTR, but not the one discovered by Louis Deemshutes. Perhaps you could interview Steve at some point. But, again, a very interesting piece.
@insaneprepper2832
@insaneprepper2832 Жыл бұрын
I am fully convinced that Martha Tabram was an early victim of the Ripper, before he fine-tuned his methods. While I believe that Liz Stride was a Ripper victim, a strong argument can be made against that. For me, the Ripper killed at least four, probably six, and then was either killed, incarcerated on other charges, or, having what alcoholics call a “moment of clarity,” saw the severity of his actions, and did the decent and topped himself after Mary Kelly. Or he could have been run over by a lorry! 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Rando_Shyte
@Rando_Shyte Жыл бұрын
I always found it odd and frustrating that the officials involved disagreed so much on whether he had surgical knowledge... Like "nice work lads, we're gonna get him now" lol
@andrewtomlinson5237
@andrewtomlinson5237 Жыл бұрын
I think Bond may have also been a little out on the timescale for the Nichols (Bucks Row) murder. I'm not sure that three or four hours could have elapsed, unless they were working on a body-dump theory. And I'm fairly sure that that possibility had already been ruled out by the time of the Kelly murder. The blood evidence alone should have been telling to someone of Bond's distinction. Whether you are in Christer's camp and believe the blood may still have been flowing under pressure, or of the opinion that it was oozing due to gravity... it was still fluid at (around) 3.45, and people had been past their in the previous three hours, not least of whom was PC Neil. Similar details apply at Mitre Square. I'm not sure if he is merely citing typical times for the rigor/temp compared to the time of autopsy as an academic exrcise, but those times wouldn't help an investigation. Unless I've misunderstood.
@my-mysknitsaloon
@my-mysknitsaloon Жыл бұрын
I think Thomas Bond was pretty close. But it's is some contrast between him writing that the murderer have no professional skills regarding to the cuts,but then he's stated that the murder weapon was from a professional trade. Maybe he was trying to say that the murderer was trained with handle knifes but in such raw rage state of mind that the cuts turned out sloppy looking ? I don't know. I also believe Jack the Ripper killed the two victims found after the famous 5 killings. Thank you Richard for sharing all goodies with us. 🤗🦋👍🏻
@janetpendlebury6808
@janetpendlebury6808 Жыл бұрын
Owning a butchers knife does not mean he was a butcher etc, I own a skinning knife, butchers knife and a scalpel, but I am not a butcher or surgeon, or have any anatomical skills!
@jamiestacey7862
@jamiestacey7862 Жыл бұрын
Rich, why do you think the Police only say 5 murders when really it seems more than 5 murders ? Great post thank you 👍
@adelecurry7405
@adelecurry7405 Жыл бұрын
What was considered 'middle aged' in 1888? In most of the photographs I've seen, everyone over the age of twenty looks old! Enjoyable video, thank you 😊
@janetpendlebury6808
@janetpendlebury6808 Жыл бұрын
As anyone of around 60 was classed as old in those days, middle age would be mid 20's/30's. They usually looked old because they worked hard, from around 12 years old, and did not have a great diet.
@adelecurry7405
@adelecurry7405 Жыл бұрын
@@janetpendlebury6808 That puts me on the cusp of decrepitude 😂
@bigmofarah9084
@bigmofarah9084 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if in 1888 ‘quite naked’ was an acceptable way to refer to somebody dressed as Mary Kelly was when her body was found.
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
That is why he wrote "quite naked"preventing any misunderstanding. He got it wrong. And his suggestion that anyone could have made those cuts, incisions is laughable.
@rociomiranda5684
@rociomiranda5684 Жыл бұрын
Mary may have been sketched with a chemise in deference to the public. In the Black Dahlia case, a blanket was added to the photograph of her body for publication. The doctor is the reliable source.
@russelldeitch5765
@russelldeitch5765 10 ай бұрын
Crime scene photographs of Mary Kelly exist but they are too graphic to publish on YT.
@Jurassic56
@Jurassic56 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating insight from Dr Bond. Unfortunately we'll never know how accurate it is.
@Rollin_L
@Rollin_L Жыл бұрын
To my mind, it seems we too easily conflate the distinct elements of anatomical knowledge and surgical skill. One who was experienced at butchering certain animals might be good with a knife, but may or may not be well versed on human anatomy. No matter what, we are all speculating here. I can imagine, however, that the murderer might not have been surgically skilled as much as being knowledgeable about the human organs he was insistent on mutilating or removing. Perhaps he knew where to go but was more crude in his technique than a skilled surgeon would expect to be. But then, my opinion is worth only the value of the cyberspace it is typed upon. If the experts of the day found no agreement on such details, why should we who have only written reports and limited photographic images of some victims expect to find the final answer?
@deborahmenno7652
@deborahmenno7652 Жыл бұрын
I think Dr Thomas Bond's report is very interesting and worth a closer look at the events surrounding it. One thing that always gets my attention is when others try to discredit a very organized and professional evaluation by a respectable Doctor. The fact that Mary Kelly was sketched with a chemise on was done out of respect. This, like the other "errors" in the report, are jibberish and the statements seem desperate.
@petejones879
@petejones879 Жыл бұрын
What is a chemise?
@QuasarRedshift
@QuasarRedshift Жыл бұрын
it is a ladie's blouse - I think that it is a French word . . .
@JosephBrown-hm9hk
@JosephBrown-hm9hk Жыл бұрын
2 thoughts - 1/ the reference to a nude Kelly needs explaining, but obviously we can't ask Bond. He certainly saw the body, but also had no possible reason to deliberately lie about the topic. So it may possibly be that he simply and clumsily was trying to say she was very much on 'open' display - a sort of 'for-all-intents-and-purposes-she-was-naked' sort of idea on his part. After all, as far as I remember, her legs were splayed and uncovered, and her breasts were also on display (if not attached). Any modesty towards her body was well and truely gone. 2/ As to the variance in opinions about medical knowledge, who can say? But Bond did have the advantage of having access to evidence from 5 different bodies, a good amount of time to cogitate on that evidence; and was asked to study that specific question as a matter of importance. Other doctors saw only 1 body, needed to get their thoughts ready for an impending coronial enquiry, and weren't concentrating specifically on the experience of the killer, but possibly treating it more as a 'by the way, I think...' sort of thing. Again, who knows?
@petejones879
@petejones879 Жыл бұрын
Eddowes has the letter E in it according to every report I have seen over the last 50 years or so
@TheOzdivo
@TheOzdivo Жыл бұрын
"Quite naked" is not actually the same as "completely naked". Perhaps it is semantics and not an error, after all if I was quite quiet, it would not mean I was completely silent.
@peteclarke9416
@peteclarke9416 Жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting the way the Victorians used the word quite. They used it in the affirmative sense. As in beyond doubt, without question, completely and utterly. So there's still some doubt about why he said it..
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 19 күн бұрын
@@peteclarke9416 this tea is quite nice, a little weak, though.
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 Жыл бұрын
First off, thank you for the video, the wonderful narration and the brilliant research - as always Mr. Jones. I personally think it’s way more likely that JTR was dressed as the general male population in Whitechapel and blended in quite well (coat or no coat). Moreover I think he most likely held a steady job considering he committed the murders on weekends and holidays. To extract organs in a haste with very little illumination at hand must simply indicate quite an extensive anatomical knowledge and at least some “surgical” skill. Particularly when using such a long blade as is suspected. Bond seems to believe that the women’s throats were cut first, when it’s quite evident that all were strangled first, with the only possible exception being Mary Kelly. Then again, I have my doubts that Kelly was killed by JTR. I’m not so sure Elizabeth Stride was his victim either. I think George Hutchinson is a very likely suspect in the Mary Kelly murder and Stride may have been murdered by someone else, possibly Kidney. But in all honesty I’m more uncertain regarding Stride. Diemschutz may have interrupted the planned mutilation. However, that can be argued in the much later Frances Coles murder in 1991 too.
@adelecurry7405
@adelecurry7405 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, but maybe he meant that the throats were cut 'first' before the mutilations.
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 Жыл бұрын
@@adelecurry7405 You’re quite right. I may have misunderstood the meaning.
@russelldeitch5765
@russelldeitch5765 10 ай бұрын
1991 or 1891?
@shereerihari2691
@shereerihari2691 Жыл бұрын
I often wonder if the culprit was a policeman who knew when to strike, could hide himself in plain sight and keep an eye on proceedings. Maybe not a local cop but one who could get info if he wanted? Just my musings....
@markrowley2739
@markrowley2739 Жыл бұрын
Occasionally thought that myself. Or someone with a police uniform.
@sirlawrence9161
@sirlawrence9161 Жыл бұрын
Thought this a possibility as well. Seems to know the pattern of the police patrols, catches the women off-guard, blends back into society with ease.
@adelecurry7405
@adelecurry7405 Жыл бұрын
Very risky, if he was noticed by a real policeman near a crime scene that would be the finish.
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
@@sirlawrence9161 Said ladies wouldn't be seen dead within half mile of a copper in uniform...
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
@@adelecurry7405 Coppers do tend to cover up for each other...
@grbdnksg
@grbdnksg Жыл бұрын
If Dr. Bond was right in his opinion that the killer hadn't the anatomical knowledge even that of a horse slaughterer, why did he use a butcher's or a surgeon's knife (6:16) then?
@robertferguson9154
@robertferguson9154 Жыл бұрын
Seems strange he makes no mention that the last 2 killings he set about butchering the victims faces.
@RittervonNord
@RittervonNord Жыл бұрын
Many videos or present day cases where muliations were carried are out there. In many instances perpetrated by gang members or random psycho's. Often organs are removed such as the heart, intestines or other organs without much sophistication but with reasonable efficiency. No reason why JTR coudn't do this too in low light with the right tools and basic knowledge.
@richardmorgan1624
@richardmorgan1624 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@robmann400
@robmann400 10 ай бұрын
Dr. Bond’s use of the word, ‘naked,’ could have been used in its other sense, which would be synonymous with, ‘undisguised,’ blatant,’ ‘obvious,’ and implying ‘unprotected,’ and exposed to the eyes of others while in an indecent state, (not her nudity, her condition) completely exposed to the world and, ‘defenceless.’ After seeing another human being left in such a butchered state, one would feel protective after the fact, and maybe think of the indignity of it all even if only subconsciously. Dr. Bond surmising that these were the acts of an unskilled hand may have been another unconscious act, one to protect his own profession from being associated with this kind of act. If the Ripper was thought skilled enough to maybe be a surgeon, then it would quickly follow - especially to the press, and public - that he could only be a doctor. I don’t know the attitudes of these people so it doesn’t seem unlikely that a doctor in Victorian England might have a dim view of the destitute of the Whitechapel area, and with prostitutes it may have been dimmer still. The class divide of the time must have lead to some very incongruous opinions when they weren’t being held privately but being offered up as professional opinion. I’d like to know more about the detailed reasoning behind any, and all of the original medical opinions of this case. Why are they, and where are they, varied, exactly. Maybe they don’t even exist? Thanks for making videos eh.
@bendavies8881
@bendavies8881 Жыл бұрын
I think that this is a man who we should listed to. His methodology was well ahead of his time, and his conclusions in many cases align with what we have later found to hold true of serial killers. He strikes me as being a generation ahead of the other observers of the crime scenes in his thinking. Far from being of little use, he provides the modern Ripperologist, with the nearest thing they will get to a CSI report.
@adoculos4521
@adoculos4521 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree less!
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Жыл бұрын
@@adoculos4521 In the interest of balance, I couldn't agree more with Ben.
@cbamr
@cbamr Жыл бұрын
I think his theory has legs but may be a non runner.
@adoculos4521
@adoculos4521 Жыл бұрын
He is not factoring in a lot of non medical knowledge about the cases that I think he didn't know.
@peteclarke9416
@peteclarke9416 Жыл бұрын
Another top video Richard. I bet Dr Bond struck quite a few truths in his criminal profiling. These differing opinions create some confusion.. The complete nakedness of the woman on the bed is clearly misinformed though.. Being the Doctor who performed the initial post mortem on the victim in Millers Court, this seems a huge lapse in his memory of how she was displayed. I could say similar of Walter Dew in his surmation of how he first encountered the sight that greeted him... Some things don't quite ring true as you aluded to with the chemise.. It leaves us with very strange information Ps Bonds evidence in the Mary Pearcey case seemed much more detailed and, if I'm honest, lost me in parts...
@DisbLB
@DisbLB Жыл бұрын
More of this!
@petejones879
@petejones879 Жыл бұрын
Well that's a contradiction to popular belief.. In every report I have heard or read previously.. It's always been said that that the murderer had knowledge of the anatical workings of the human body as a surgeon or a butcher might..
@markrowley2739
@markrowley2739 Жыл бұрын
Didn't Bond state that a later victim after the canonical five, was one of the Whitechapel murderer and was killed by somebody with anatomical knowledge...contradicting himself on his report in this video?
@bruceshaw2402
@bruceshaw2402 Жыл бұрын
To say the suspect probably wore a cloak to cover the blood etc on his clothes and hands was in my opinion way off the mark , Victorian streets especially in the poorer areas were very poorly lit if lit at all ( hence a constable carried a lamp ) and if he lived near by he would be back in doors in no time , after all no one actually saw the man let alone what state his clothes etc were in .
@Lennonlover06
@Lennonlover06 Жыл бұрын
Jtr reminds me of Ed gein in that he inflicted facial inverted v-shaped wounds on some victims and succeeded in eviscerating Mary Kelly's face altogether, perhaps, like gein, to wear as a mask. This implies a personal link to the victims; that jack was a regular, known to the girls. And he becomes a spree killer, like the Suffolk strangler (Jack strangled his victims first)
@lizscutt7899
@lizscutt7899 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting 😊😊
@michaelw8587
@michaelw8587 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Personally I would take what Dr Bond said with a lot of credence. He was there at the time, and seems to have thought deeply about more than just the murder of Mary Kelly. But about the profile of the person who could have committed the crime too. So in some respects he was ahead of his time. I'm sure he will have made some mistakes. But as a guess, i'd think he would have got a lot more right than wrong in his profile of the killer.
@peteclarke9416
@peteclarke9416 Жыл бұрын
You can imagine Anderson and Warren sat there 'who shall we go for'? 'What about Dr Bond? , the surgeon from A Division..' 'Ha ha yeah why not. Write that letter to him now. Make sure you end it with.' we value your opinion ' ' Let's see how close he gets to knowing what's going on!!! '
@philnewcomers9170
@philnewcomers9170 2 ай бұрын
jtr said'im not a forign skipper' therefor jtrwas anenglish skipper,this followes my assertion jtr was a merchat seaman ttfn&ty
@peteclarke9416
@peteclarke9416 Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Thomas Bond sometimes. Since I found out how his life came to an end
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell us how his life ended?
@JackTheRipperTours
@JackTheRipperTours Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. He committed suicide by jumping out of the window of his flat in The Sanctuary building that I show in the video. He had been in a lot of pain for several years.
@rob5944
@rob5944 Жыл бұрын
Very sad, he must have been desperate.
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
@@JackTheRipperTours Have we stumbled across another Ripper suspect? Surgical skills, familiar with police work, suicide.
@MarkNostrant
@MarkNostrant Жыл бұрын
during the victorian era the piano legs had pants . to man of this period she was naked...
@AustinD333
@AustinD333 6 ай бұрын
I think Dr Thomas Bond fits the descriptioñ perfectly and could have been the murderer. Hints the reason he had opposite opinions than everyne else.
@mikki3961
@mikki3961 Жыл бұрын
We must remember that quite naked to the Victorians is much different to how we would word it today. A woman in a chemise or her "undergarments" would be "naked" then. He saw the brutality of the murders and his class, social station, etc would also influence his opinion of the murders. Only a brute or ape could do such things, not a skilled or educated person. We must consider the age and not compare it to modern day.
@davekeating.
@davekeating. Жыл бұрын
The Doc wrote "quite naked" - he was incorrect, move on...
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 Жыл бұрын
​@@davekeating.If that's the way you like to picture the victim that's up to you.
@Problembeing
@Problembeing Жыл бұрын
The Mystic Meg of his day.
@patrickkelley6212
@patrickkelley6212 Жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@andrewtomlinson5237
@andrewtomlinson5237 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how much knowledge the typical Victorian had as to the location and connective tissue in regards to removing a uterus. I consider myself fairly well read, and of at least average intelligence, but I know that I would struggle to perform the removal of pretty much any internal matter with any confidence, let alone if working quickly, with the obstruction of clothing and no suction to remove the blood that would be pooling to some serious degree in the abdominal cavity.... and all that in the dark. There had to be SOME sort of anatomical understanding. As to the "naked" comment, I believe I read/heard somewhere, (I think maybe on a documentary I saw about Victorian beachwear and those crazy wheeled beach huts...) that it carried a slightly different meaning in Victorian times, and that it could also refer to someone who was very scantily clad, or wearing something that did little or nothing to hide what was beneath. (e.g. wearing a wet, clinging swimsuit in a cold sea.) Annoyingly, the only reference that leaps to mind is not very helpful, as it comes from an episode of Doctor Who where the Doctor apologises to Queen Victoria for the "nakedness" of Rose, who is wearing tight denim shorts at the time. But I promise that I heard/read it before ever seeing that episode. I PROMISE!!!
@John-es7zn
@John-es7zn Жыл бұрын
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@whasudr
@whasudr Жыл бұрын
i agree with mr bond on most points. i dont believe Jack had any surgical knowledge.
@mattmallecoccio8378
@mattmallecoccio8378 Жыл бұрын
I think Bond might have been the Ripper
@DF-ee8vt
@DF-ee8vt Жыл бұрын
Sounds like he was shooting in the dark.
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 Жыл бұрын
Working with what he had I would say he did a good job. At times a bit of social snobbery but then he was Victorian.
@johnwahannah2385
@johnwahannah2385 7 ай бұрын
Willie Clarkson! The wig maker and actor.
@kathrynleaser5093
@kathrynleaser5093 18 күн бұрын
Bond has too many inconsistencies. This killer was knowledgeable in anatomy. He was working on an extremely tight time line under dark conditions. Limited tools probably only a knife. The killer was able in a very short time able to extract various organs from the different victims. That alone shows knowledge of human anatomy This was a killer that had one mission and it was not the R word. I think his final victim was the one he was ultimately seeking out. I feel he knew her rather well. She may have been someone he once was very close to that saw in him a dangerous tendency that would ultimately cause her demise. I think this murderer had time on his hand and used it to stalk n kill till he achieved his ultimate murder in Mary Jane Kelly. Mary Jane Kelly told her live in lover Joseph Barnett, that she felt as if someone was looking for her but was not too worried that he would find her. Her past was murky . She may have been deliberately hiding this in order to remain shielded by her anominity.
@johncostello3174
@johncostello3174 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion there are two prime suspects. Francis Tumblety and Aaron Kosminsky. Of the two, I would say Tumblety is the more likely. He attempted to purchase Uteri for whatever purpose and reputedly had a collection of them. He was also a woman hater due to finding out his wife or partner was or had been a prostitute, had a pseudo medical past (a quack) and left for France very soon after the last murder. Kosinski only because he was known to be psychotic and living the local area. I have read that Tumblety's landlady said he returned one evening with blood on his clothes although I don't k now the source of that.
@mattburns8839
@mattburns8839 Ай бұрын
Not a chance. Lechmere is the ONLY viable suspect ever named. It's Lechmere or it's unknown.
@detdeet
@detdeet 4 ай бұрын
He argues the suspect possesses no anatomical knowledge but bases this only on his viewing of the scene of Mary Kelly's murder as he was not present for the others as per his own admittance, no layman can remove a kidney and a womb without damaging it or surrounding organs. I surely could not, i wouldn't even know where to start, so this idea that he was a layman and didn't display any knowledge is ridiculous on it's face since it requires ignoring the Chapman murder to believe, afaik every doctor who analyzed her injuries was adamant that the killer had indeed displayed anatomical knowledge so to counter them all based solely on Mary Kelly's autopsy is nonsense. Though all of them had their throats cut they were not all the same, some like Stride and Kelly were cut before their heart stopped, others like Eddowes and Nichols did not show any squirts of arterial blood expected if their hearts were still beating strong when the arteries were severed, some were attacked from the left others from the right, some in isolated locations, another in between police beats in a dark square, another right next to a club and close to a crowded pub and the final inside a room. All these differ in important ways, so i don't see what he's basing this idea of the canonical 5 on, i don't see it, not this clearly at least. I believe that Chapman and Eddowes were most likely attacked by the same individual, Nichols probably as well. Stride and Kelly i have strong suspicions about. Stride because the M.O., weapon and choice of venue differs too radically from the others, and Kelly because of the far more extensive facial mutation which feels like a deliberate attempt at impeding identification, coupled with at least two witnesses claiming to have seen her the next morning
@celinecampbell9108
@celinecampbell9108 10 ай бұрын
I think doctor Thomas bond is jack the ripper.
@WadeRaney-vv5oi
@WadeRaney-vv5oi 9 ай бұрын
Bond was part right🙂
@megs4193
@megs4193 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was him, a group of them, every time I hear about each person involved in this, they all sound guilty. The downside I've not being able to travel back in time 😊🤍✌️.
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