Have Fremantle become a premiership CONTENDER? The AFL Round Table - SEN

Gerard Healy, Kane Cornes and Luke Hodge discuss all of the main talking points of Round 17. They unpack where things have gone wrong for Collingwood, Mattaes Phillipou's outstanding performance, the MRO sanctions on Isaac Heeney and Izak Rankine and more!
0:00 - 5:35 - North Melbourne
5:38 - 10:35 - Collingwood
10:37 - 12:45 - Essendon
13:23 - 14:59 - Fremantle
15:06 - 18:14 - Sydney
18:15 - 23:34 - MRO findings
23:35 - 25:40 - St Kilda

[@thomaslafferty3459]

- 3rd on the ladder - Beat Sydney at the SCG without Pearce & Cox - Arguably deserved to beat Carlton before they changed their ball movement Yes, they are in contention.

[@iankearns774]

Didn't kick enough goals to beat Carlton, probably won 3 quarters but didn't put the score on the board, Carlton lit up for one quarter and overran you. I am happy to give you the English "moral victory."

[@TheLifeOfLeonK]

I've resigned myself to accept Freo are going to fly under the radar until they finish the season top 4 and play a couple of games deep into the finals.

[@billy75chook80]

​@iankearns774 the only reason Fremantle lost to Carlton was because the umpires cheated Carlton the win

[@ThePilbaraPrince]

@@iankearns774you missed his point. He said before Freo changed their ball movement. They’re a different team now. They score a lot more as well. It would be great to see a rematch.

[@iankearns774]

@@billy75chook80 We had already hit the front, didn't need the second kick. We were coming home hard and Fremantle capitulated under the pressure. Cottrells mark would have been paid 99% of the time. The Umpires were ordinary all day both ways. With the amount of ball Freo had they should have been 5 goals up, you can only play keepings off for so long.

[@TheGunmanChannel]

Pies coach said "it's hard to tackle when you don't have the ball". I would say it's impossible to tackle when you do have the ball 😆

[@mightyblues7]

Kane, like Caro, is never wrong or ever apologizes..

[@edbehan1306]

True but at least he talks about footy.

[@wrwosster89076]

You gotta listen more - plenty of times I’ve heard him say he was wrong!

[@mightyblues7]

@@wrwosster89076 Really?

[@procrastinatingperfectioni278]

@@wrwosster89076 its because he says so much untrue rubbish that even he knows its wrong

[@wrwosster89076]

@@mightyblues7 yep!! Those who don’t want to hear it won’t

[@RobKieranz]

7 wins? Lol

[@brendanh8193]

Come on, that is one win for every 5 games that these backline players had at the first game of the year. Goater(11) Pink(0) Archer(8) Nyuan(1) Comben(9) McKercher(0) Hardeman(0) Dawson(5) and Dawson(0).

[@RobKieranz]

@brendanh8193 the point is that he tipped them to win 7, when it's only been 2 so far. He was way off the mark

[@RobKieranz]

And won't admit it

[@brendanh8193]

@@RobKieranz I was being sarcastic. Who expects to win even seven games with that tiny amount of experience in such a major area?

[@RobKieranz]

@@brendanh8193 🌽 sy

[@dilanabey]

The reverse side of the uncontested marks for the Swans is the fact that our pressure and tackle numbers were so low - its a bit chicken and egg, but when our pressure is up, teams *can't* take as many uncontested marks. That being said, while these losses were very immature, they probably point out just how strong the Swans are.

[@filoboy88]

I honestly think Fremantle will break through and win their first this year. They’re proving more each week that they can put on a score to compliment their incredible defensive game plus they have the pressure game as well that is required in finals. I think they’re still $13 with some markets which is great value.

[@OverconfidentCromSupporter]

If it takes a tribunal 3 days to decide a punishment how are they gonna decide whats red card worthy on the day? More grey area....

[@tomflanagan1452]

Freo have had 2 bad games in 17 matches. Lost to Carlton (2nd) by a kick (robbed) lost to Port (6th). yet when they beat Melbourne or Sydney it's because they played bad. rhetoric is they are 3rd by accident. Don't comment if you don't watch.

[@alexanderwarby-cooper3549]

They lost to Sydney too.

[@tubester4567]

Freo are home town heroes thats why nobody takes them serious. Its the same with most interstate clubs and Geelong.

[@Not1Dimensional]

Lost to Bulldogs by 70 points, but carry on.

[@thomaslafferty3459]

Is that why they lost to Sydney at home but won at the SCG?

[@fingers_7311]

@@alexanderwarby-cooper3549 The lost to Sydney at Optus, being told the day before the game that their ex team mate Cam had died. No wonder they were off that game.

[@bhuvidya]

It's pretty rare I don't agree with what Hodgey says.

[@ConCreter]

Hodgey forgot to mention losing Taryn Thomas aswell. How he expected North to improve from last season is absurd, easy to pot shot the bottom teams.

[@matthewhodge5267]

So let me get this right, Heeney didnt mean to hit him high should get off, Rankine who also didnt mean to hit the guy "Absolutely 3 or 4 weeks". Is he suggesting that Rankine would've been better off turning around and punching him in the face?

[@lachlancronin4866]

MRO is cooked. Zac Butters is taking swings at people and getting off as unintentional while theres a good chance Heeney might get suspended for accidentally fending off a player who probably slipped when following his man. MRO is COOKED

[@foxtrot_in_socks1589]

Rankine literally elected to bump a player who had no idea it was coming, this is intentional, and then he hit the bloke in the head and gave him a concussion. What can you argue in that instance?

[@lachlancronin4866]

@@foxtrot_in_socks1589 nothing i 100% agree with you

[@JustinSteele-gd5nu]

Kane's accountability for anything his ever said 0%

[@Jaydoggie1]

they've got 2 wins for the season as of today, settle down mate

[@JustinSteele-gd5nu]

​@Jaydoggie1 I'm talking Kane's accountability for anything over his whole media career, not this once, and it stands at 0%

[@Jaydoggie1]

@@JustinSteele-gd5nu thats just not true, plenty of times he has admitted he was wrong. You are just bagging him because you dont like him personally

[@JustinSteele-gd5nu]

@@Jaydoggie1 I don't know him personally 😆 Please explain how I can dislike someone personally if I have never met them? I loved him as a footballer, but as a media personality, he's one of the biggest clowns around. That's saying something, considering most of these people are.

[@stevelozevski8151]

What accountability do you want?

[@jasonmccredden1050]

When you're right %99.9999999 of the time wrong doesn't exist

[@taxads7791]

not sure what Hodgey means by Essendon people not being convinced yet.. convinced of what? would have thought most Essendon people are realistic in terms of expectations - improvement on last year, several players improving as the season rolls on, improving in terms of executing the game plan including defence, potentially qualifying for the finals which we havent done for a couple of years, & if so, giving a good account of ourselves in the finals with competitive effort no matter who we come up against. If we can achieve most of that, think the year is a success & in line with Scott's expectations - as Scott continually says, we are not the finished product yet

[@Oli-cc3eh]

If Essendon make finals the season would be a success they are talking about GF contenders which Essendon aren’t.

[@PulauSwan]

Enjoyed the conversation re: red card . Bring it on .

[@tb7667]

It should take a decent lawyer about 5 minutes to argue that heeney report down from intentional to careless and get him off with a fine.

[@taxads7791]

cannot be under the new rule, was written specifically stating that it is intentional for this type of incident.. in saying that, he is a star, he is a brownlow fancy, & he plays for an afl lovechild, we know how the tribunal usually goes under these circumstances

[@garystrahan4601]

Should get a minimum of 2 weeks. But he's in the AFLs love child club.

[@carmelo4896]

Draws blood and drops Webster to his knees ... nothing to see here

[@wolftone57]

The corrupt AFL wins yet again. Umpires who are corrupt yet the C CEO says they are perfect. Eff me. Two of the lawyers on the panel are Western Bulldogs guys. Wow I wonder who they want to win the Brownlow. I want Swans to take this one to court

[@edbehan1306]

Too bad the Umpires don't see a free kick when it's there, but can make one up from nothing. Heeney

[@tubester4567]

Thats not nothing, you cant smack someone in the face.

[@jasonmccredden1050]

The kernel corn spells wrong R-I-G-H-T

[@neilcampbell3981]

Kane cannot say anything good about North as he is still pissed off about the Horne Francis incident.

[@noahlandau3245]

Let’s be clear, north SHOULDVE beaten collingwood and deserved it against melbourne. That would be 4 wins already w Richmond & WCE coming up. Not a horrible shout from Kane, I had money on larkey to win the Coleman as I thought north would improve a little and give him better service. They could be 4-1 since the bye, that’s what I thought they would be all year

[@cantbgood]

Settle down.

[@Henlofly]

nice to hear Freo stats we all know with 0 discussion, what a joke of a podcast lmao

[@q8gyj26s]

Agreed. Absolutely pathetic

[@LTBurger]

Heeney will get off on appeal only because of his status in the league and the team he plays for. Tick it off ✅

[@carmelo4896]

Seriously, Hoggy I tried to push off ...with my closed fist 😅

[@cmadelaide56]

Oh FFS, he wasn’t looking at him, his arm was at waist level, and his reaction straight after indicted he didn’t intend to collect him high. Go and watch the replay again and take the blinkers off.

[@carmelo4896]

@cmadelaide56 don't care what you saw on the tele , I was at the game . He f up, and that's why he was apologetic

[@cmadelaide56]

@@carmelo4896 Yes because you can see it in so much more detail at the ground. 🙄 Even the replay isn’t that clear whether his fist was clenched or not, but let’s not let that get in the way of you knowing best. ‘I was there!’ Spare me.

[@carmelo4896]

@cmadelaide56 I saw the whole thing unfold ....I have context. You don't

[@cmadelaide56]

@@carmelo4896 Out of all the options you had to choose from, you picked ‘context’? Context let you see the magical closed fist? Maybe that’s the basis of the Swans appeal: ‘We were there - we have context!’ The MRO based his decision on the 2 minutes kneading up to the incident rather than the actual incident? I feel stupider having replied to this thread.

[@graemeschubert6162]

Heeney would have gotten sent off if we had a send-off rule, WAFL had it, and lasted two years, You want to punish players and the teams, not fair

[@Not1Dimensional]

Freo are the worst 3rd placed team ever. Bulldogs thrashed them by 70 points and I think Essendon will beat them as well. I don't think they will beat a half decent team in Melbourne.

[@q8gyj26s]

Wow Freo got the whole of 60 seconds in the VIC media. First time in 10 weeks. None of these flogs watch any games its so obvious