Have they SOLVED the small boats crisis?

[@nigelnewton4365]

Pleased to see you doing a 'proper' youtube video, Zoe. It's a good format and gives you more opportunity to explain things and respond to points made by high profile people like Campbell and Stewart. Keep it up!

[@zoegardner9540]

:) thank you as always for your kind support, Nigel

[@pran_man]

This is such an outstanding and excellent video. I love how you present all the arguments that are missing from public debate and in a passionate, reasonable, educated, and empathetic way. Please, please start a patreon!

[@zoegardner9540]

This is so kind, thank you!

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

I've heard many people advocate for an increase in immigration. None of them say how many they'd like to arrive each year.

[@zoegardner9540]

Can you point to the part in this video where you think I advocate for an increase in immigration?

[@mackenziear]

What would we gain by stating a number? Our need for workers in various sectors is constantly changing, so any 'target' would be constantly changing.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 As with all your videos on the topic, if your suggestions were implemented, they would clearly cause a very large increase in immigration.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@mackenziear An aim for the current number would be relevant.

[@colsylvester639]

@@RobertTaylor-gz2fu have you pointed out to @zoegardner9640 where she advocated for a number?

[@alistairrobinson3865]

I listen and enjoy the rest is politics, but also find their analysis incredibly limited, im a finance / economics professional, Alastair openly admits that’s not his thing, so Rory leads the statistical discussions but makes all the typical mistakes an amateur would. When it comes to very specific topics such as immigration, tax, economics etc it would help if they included experts in their discussions, otherwise they just end up spitballing misguided opinions but with huge influence!! Love your work, great video 🙏

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you! Yeah I think it's interersting how they manage to sound smart and on top of the material but as soon as its a topic where you REALLY know youre stuff you can see that they're just doing a lot of fudging and dont have the substance there all that much. They should consider getting experts on more I agree.

[@waynereid9471]

Glad you are doing longer vids 🙏🏿

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you! I hope this one does alright and could justify me making a few more - there's loads of things I'd like to say that just doesn't fit into a couple of minutes.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 It'd be great if you gave your opinion on cousin marriage.

[@allyhewitt1300]

I really love your work, and I hope you do this more. I work in the asylum system (I'm legally not allowed to be specific) but I truly understand your frustration, and I really wish that Cooper would be more proactive and not matching to the drums of the daily mail. Deterrents don't work, smashing the gangs does not reduce the demand. Overstayers is hugely under reported, and the fees for legal work are punishing by Design

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you very much. I think I'll try to make a few more of these and see if they do alright and people are interested - I'd like to keep going.

[@higginsj]

Appreciate the long video response to this. I had this podcast on my feed, and it was such a disappointing listen.

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you. Yes you're not the first TRIP listener to say they were sorely disappointed in Campbell & Stewart's take this time. I was also quite surprised how little there was to go on that was really good.

[@alistairrobinson3865]

Annual costs of asylum hotels = approx 3 billion quid Annual government spending total = approx 1.2 trillion quid It’s really insignificant in terms financial and the number of people overall Other than that humanitarian problem impacting those involved directly, this topic shouldn’t even be on most peoples radar, it’s barely impacting anyone. The hype created by the media and politicians is pure culture war divide and rule stuff, but people fall for it, sad

[@zoegardner9540]

It is sad, but it's shoved down our throats every single week, it's understandable people can be taken in in the end. We've just got to keep pushing back!

[@TheRestIsAfrica]

I like your longer vids. can you think about doing more? maybe between 15-20 minutes videos? i think overtime they could do better.

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you I'm so glad you liked it. I agree around 15-20 would be the sweet spot. I just couldnt stop once I got started on this one haha. I'll have a go at a few more mid-length ones!

[@georgewaters6424]

Go Go Gadget Gardner. We need to hear this.

[@zoegardner9540]

Hahaha I need an intro with the vintage go-go-gadget cartoon don't I? Thank you - I hope it's a helpful contribution to their conversation!

[@zoegardner9540]

Absolutely right. And the majority of the country agree with you that there are far, far more important issues.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

We need several new arrivals to move into your house to live rent-free!

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

Would you like several new arrivals to the UK to become your new unpaid lodgers?

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

Magdeburg is the latest European city to be affected by vehicle-rammers from MENA.

[@pauledwards7260]

The guy was an ex-Muslim, Tommy Robinson and AFD fan.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@pauledwards7260 An international people-smuggler from Saudi.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@pauledwards7260 A Saudi smuggler of people.

[@BAmalakas]

@@pauledwards7260 was he a z10nist agent?

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

A Saudi smuggler of many immigrants.

[@larsbjrnson3101]

Italy have stopped half of the boat crossings with a return agreement with Libya. If your PM try to do the same with France/EU it's against the brexiteers.

[@zoegardner9540]

I feel like you've missed quite a lot about that Italian deal with Libya - here's a starting point in case you're interested x.com/ZoeJardiniere/status/1868953253482029266

[@larsbjrnson3101]

@zoegardner9540 My point is whatever they're trying to do it's wrong. If Starmer talks with Europe he's a traitor. The Dublin agreement did work for these dangerous crossings before.

[@nathanielthomas8110]

Cannot OUT Farage. Farage

[@zoegardner9540]

And yet always they try!

[@roddychristodoulou9111]

For as long as we do not have any safe routes into the UK for migrants the small boat crossings will just continue . It's not a priority for this Labour government to stop the crossings as its only a small percentage of migration , besides they've tons more important issues to deal with . There's a lot more I can say in this issue but I do feel it's a non issue to begin with and is being exploited by populist politicians for their own gain .

[@waynereid9471]

It’s only a priority for right wing press and he idiots that read and believe them

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

They'd continue even with safe routes. Thousands who don't qualify for safe routes would continue hiring people-smugglers to bring them on overloaded, unseaworthy boats. For example, those from safe countries such as Albania, Ghana & India.

[@zoegardner9540]

Yep but unfortunately with conversations like this and the action (and inaction) from government and the power of the voice of Reform that's more and more people

[@zoegardner9540]

What would be the point of creating safe routes that people don't qualify for?

[@jethrotull2142]

​@@RobertTaylor-gz2fuEven so called "safe" countries can be unsafe for many and India is inherently unsafe for almost 20% of it's population.

[@MattSaysHello]

Really glad you’re doing longer videos

[@zoegardner9540]

Oh yay! Ok that is encouraging! Maybe if this one does half decently I'll do more - I have several ideas!

[@jeffocks793]

What I've learned listening to you Zoe is that the field of migration and asylum is a bit deep to say the least, you teach me hew things every time i come here. While i think i still want to press for the book tying everything together academically, given what you say about Campbell Stew, which makes perfect sense, what about a more generalised short 'pot boiler' book or website introducing all the terms and gamut of issues in the language you use here? I can't find much that pulls it all together like you can.

[@zoegardner9540]

This is kind, Jeff. I'm working on finding that balance for my book at the moment, between explaining all the detail and analysis that I want to, with keeping it light enough and accessible enough so that your average interested person can benefit from it

[@signed_Bewildered]

@@zoegardner9540 that's great... have you got a 'release date' in mind for the book?

[@jeffocks793]

@@signed_Bewildered lol I backed off asking that myself as asking authors about deadlines can often have a negative effect! It's difficult enough hiding from one's editor!

[@signed_Bewildered]

@@jeffocks793 LOL.. fair comment..

[@politicssocialuk]

SAFE ROUTES FTW (for the world)

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

For everyone?!

[@signed_Bewildered]

@@RobertTaylor-gz2fu Yes. So they can engage with the process safely to allow the authorities to determine those who meet the criteria for refuges status and those who don't. It's not complicated. That's what the refugee process is there to do. Did you not know that?

[@zoegardner9540]

I can get behind this!!!!!

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 A safe route to your house!

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 Several of them could go to your house!

[@alistairrobinson3865]

My heart sank when Rory started talking about offshore processing instead of safe and legal routes

[@zoegardner9540]

Yup. Like they're doing it on purpose to be as uninspired and unlikely to succeed as possible.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 To act as a deterrent to the choosy.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

It's to deter those who are choosy.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 To deter the choosy.

[@sarahlooney22]

Excellent video

[@zoegardner9540]

Glad you liked it thank you so much

[@colsylvester639]

Thank you for the long form video - Yvette Cooper knows that this deal isn't about "helping" people to stay in Iraq, it's about "making" them stay no matter what risks to life and limb there might be. She's therefore complicit in those harms.

[@zoegardner9540]

Unfortunately you are absolutely right about that. There's nothing to do with helping people in the deal at all. Thanks for your encouragement, I'll try to make some more longer stuff specifically for KZbin then :)

[@raymondsingh7040]

Bravo let's have more please! Thanks. Ray

[@zoegardner9540]

:) thank you Ray!

[@loop1973]

An example of expertise and moral clarity as always. Please keep posting longer videos on KZbin.

[@zoegardner9540]

Thank you! It's so good to know you'd like me to keep making this slightly longer form stuff! I'll see about doing some more.

[@alistairrobinson3865]

The whole “France is a safe country” logic could be applied by every country west of Turkey… so no asylum seekers in Europe would be the logical conclusion……..absolute nonsense 🤯

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

It's common sense that'd greatly improve Europe. Copy safe Poland, whose economy is greatly improving.

[@pran_man]

@@RobertTaylor-gz2fu Poland is improving because of two things: a low starting base and extensive EU funding. Relating it to the lack of migration is poppycock.

[@zoegardner9540]

Exactly. There's lots of safe countries, that's what's great! We can share responsibility and all benefit.

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 How can we benefit from Pakistani cousin couples?!

[@RobertTaylor-gz2fu]

@@zoegardner9540 I can't see the benefit of cousin couples from Afghanistan & Pakistan!

[@serdanstr6252]

Thank you!

[@zoegardner9540]

You're welcome!